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I'm completely new to this and cannot find anything anywhere which gives me the confidence to root my brand new N1.
I need the N1 to connect to an ad hoc network. For a couple of reasons, I cannot use a router, it has to be ad-hoc. In fact, I can't believe that Google have disabled ad-hoc facility, if I had known I wouldn't have bought it! It makes no sense!
Anyway, I have installed the android sdk and drivers, no problem, my pc recognises the phone ok.
I don't know what to do next. There seems to be several options, but none specific to my phone.
One was to use Superboot, but there isn't one specific to my build number which is EPF21B, the firmware version is 2.1-update 1.
Another option is to follow the cyanogen instructions, but will this work on my phone?
Can anyone point me in the right direction? A link to good, easy to understand instructions and the necessary downloads?
Like I said, a router is not possible - this is what everyone recommends on the other forums I have posted on, but it won't work.
Thanks for taking the time, kewl.....
Can't be done, as far as i'm aware
I've got to say that I am staggered that Google has actually BLOCKED this facility, it makes no sense to me.
I have been waiting for this phone to become available for months, and now it is here I find that gooogle have deliberately crippled it, it's virtually useless to me!
Luckily, I have a 7 day cooling off period and I am going to return the phone and go back to my slow, clumsy and buggy Nokia, but at least it works.
Thanks guys!
I've got to say that I am staggered that Google has actually BLOCKED this facility, it makes no sense to me
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don't you have a pc with Windows 7? you could try a software called virtual rooter or connectify, to use your pc as a access point to your phone. only ti use at home or work and only if you're looking to a way to give internet access to your phone. that's what I'm doing when i at home where i don't have wifi access. using a virtual machine running a windows 7 OS with a external wifi drive plug in to it (because my real pc runs vista). that did the trick for me
AHA im not alone!! I have the exact same UK version of the Nexus one as you. Ive also had the same problems.. its not htat you cant do it its just the phone is only a week old and none of the modders have modded the new version yet. Paul the guy from modaco is making me a epf21b fastboot i think they just have to change a few things for all the usual root goodies to become available to us UK n1ers
basically ill be sending him a copy of my epf21b today then he can make a fastboot for it then we can do all the goodies...
ill update this thread when i get some progress
SENTIE said:
AHA im not alone!! I have the exact same UK version of the Nexus one as you. Ive also had the same problems.. its not htat you cant do it its just the phone is only a week old and none of the modders have modded the new version yet. Paul the guy from modaco is making me a epf21b fastboot i think they just have to change a few things for all the usual root goodies to become available to us UK n1ers
basically ill be sending him a copy of my epf21b today then he can make a fastboot for it then we can do all the goodies...
ill update this thread when i get some progress
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No, you can't connect to ADHOC networks on the Nexus. Even with root i'm pretty sure it can't be done.
I was able to connect to my gf iPhone mywi internet tethering and use her connection. My n1 couldn't get a high-speed connection so I turn on her iPhone ad-hoc network and was able to connect
I have a rooted cm phone with the wifi tether app and the barnacle apparently as well. Hope that helps
NO TETHERING
NO NAVIGATING
I really like/dislike my Samsung Vibrant. My HD2 was stolen and got the Vibrant on a temporary basis until the HD7 came out. Love the market place, hate the phone and the android service or whatever I had to switch my internet plan over to.
I cant stand roaming data charges. $30 a megabyte. Im pretty sure I wont get that with the HD7. Im a truck driver so I need tethering and navigating.
Is it possible for a tethering app in the future or is it a hardware thing?
It seems to be possible on the samsung phones, so it is possible. Cant say if itll happen on the hd7, but id bet its a matter of time before someone finds a way.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/11/windows-phone-7-usb-tethering-uncovered-on-samsung-phones/
they also got a lg wp7 phone to tether.
That will happen. As far as gps goes, bing navigation is supposed to be in the jan. 11 update.
Ordered HD7 should have in a few days.
I got the Tmobile version if that makes a difference.
1. Do the apps purchased in market for HD2 be compatible with HD7?
2. Does HD7 have the ability to act as a wifi router like the HD2 does?
3. Do they use the same charging plug?
Thank you to who ever provides answers and not flame.
I have sat here over and hour reading these threads, not clear answers to what I am asking.
I do wish some one would do a feature by feature comparison of the two phones. I got this one simply because I am tired of the lag and problems with my HD2. I know we can flash roms and all that, not to my skills or time frame, i need a phone that the developers provide what every phone should have, if this one does not offer that, then back to nokia we go .
Thank you again.
Hi,
1: No it is a completely different marketplace and apps for Windows Mobile 6.5 are not compatible with Windows Phone 7.
2: No, at the moment you cannot use the phone as a Wifi Router although that may be possible in the future.
3: I'm not too sure, the HD7 uses a micro USB port. From what I've seen it appears that the HD2 uses micro as well but I can't be sure.
If you're looking for a phone that Just works, then Windows Phone 7 is the way to go. No ROM flashes or tweaking to get it better as it's all good out of the box.
Enjoy it!
Thank you, but not good news.
I take it that the windows 7 app market is probably much smaller.
I use the wifi router feature all the time when at clients locations and need to get on line with my lap top. This is a major problem, do you know if it can be used via usb and 3G?
Thank you again.
rysky007 said:
Thank you, but not good news.
I take it that the windows 7 app market is probably much smaller.
I use the wifi router feature all the time when at clients locations and need to get on line with my lap top. This is a major problem, do you know if it can be used via usb and 3G?
Thank you again.
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no it can not be used to tether at this time. Only for the lg and samsung has tethering been figured out. The phone is capable of it, you just have to get into a hidden menu that has not been found on the htc hd7 yet.
uhhh, the wp7 marketplace already has over 2k apps the first month...
nrfitchett4 said:
no it can not be used to tether at this time. Only for the lg and samsung has tethering been figured out. The phone is capable of it, you just have to get into a hidden menu that has not been found on the htc hd7 yet.
uhhh, the wp7 marketplace already has over 2k apps the first month...
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Where do you see them on line? went to WM7 site, only showed me about 100 apps or so, maybe I am looking at wrong area.
Any idea of a time line or has any one heard of when we will be able to use the wifi router feature on this phone? without this feature, the phone becomes useless to me for work
rysky007 said:
Where do you see them on line? went to WM7 site, only showed me about 100 apps or so, maybe I am looking at wrong area.
Any idea of a time line or has any one heard of when we will be able to use the wifi router feature on this phone? without this feature, the phone becomes useless to me for work
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http://www.bing.com/browse?g=wp7#toc=0
Thank you.
I'm on the edge of pulling the trigger for a NC. Since the NC was never intended to be a full fledge tablet I'm sure there are some annoyances from you rooted users. Once you get everything setup what are the cons? I have a rooted Samsung Vibrant running ClockWork on Team Whiskey, Nero ROM. What I'm reading I don't think I will go to Froyo since it is definitely usable but I get annoyed by such things like having to turn on/off screen to fix screen lag. I will most likely just keep it rooted from stock. The reason I'm interested in it is:
Lightweight, small form factor
Great resolution
Of course price.
I have two gripes:
1. No physical back button
2. Adhoc wifi requires turning on/off wifi
Both of these are hardware issues and not related to rooting.
I don't use the in-store feature so not having that doesn't bother me.
Do it, you can always unroot.
Magically transmitted across the interwebs by my kickass NookColor!
Just want to clarify, don't have a NC yet. Don't want to buy it as an ereader.
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lucifurious said:
I have two gripes:
1. No physical back button
2. Adhoc wifi requires turning on/off wifi
Both of these are hardware issues and not related to rooting.
I don't use the in-store feature so not having that doesn't bother me.
Do it, you can always unroot.
Magically transmitted across the interwebs by my kickass NookColor!
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I don't know that the lack of physical back button bothers me, it has a built in gesture for back (swipe to the left on the menu bar) so it's not really a limitation, more a preference thing. The only real downside I've seen is lack of in-store features. There are some issues with the root, mainly some market issues where for some reason all of the programs don't show up. I used the NC for a couple of weeks in stock form and then decided to root, definitely worth it just for the sake of getting a browser with multi-touch enabled. However, I read a lot so that factors into how much I like it.
If you're just using it as an android tablet, it's really good. No GPS, no cameras, no 3g connection, but other than that it's fast with the best screen I've seen on a tablet and is just the right size. My phone has a 5mpx camera, 720p video and GPS and I have it on me all the time, so no need for any of that in a tablet. It also acts as a hotspot, so no need for 3g on the tablet. It's a perfect compliment to a decent smartphone.
If you love to tinker there's no cons. (and if you want a back button, Autonooter comes with Soft Keys that'll put one on the screen for you)
Despite the time it took to learn how to do it, and what to do with it afterwards, I got what I paid for and more. I love to learn and troubleshoot, so rooting this device has been a real treat.
At the moment I have a fully functional tablet that I use quite often around the house and at work. It's a convenient browser (I use Opera Mobile which has pinch zoom and slightly better page rendering than the build in browser), a quick source of the news thanks to a program included in the Autonooter kit, and a useful quick-note taking device.
I'll admit, my primary use for it is browsing, but when you root this thing, you can use any browser you want. I use Opera, but Skyfire and Dolphin HD are also good.
In addition to that, it makes a great portable movie player. The built in player supports MP4 and one other format, but if you root it, you can download Rock Player and play most commonly used video formats.
It's Youtube performance is excellent too, and there's quite a few Youtube video downloaders available in case you want to save your favorites to the SDCard.
Speaking of that, you will want to buy an SDCard. It doesn't come with one, and you might want more than the 5GB free of space you get out of the box.
All in all, it's pretty much a computer, and once you learn how to do everything to liberate it from it's shackles, there's no limit to what you can do with it.
As a tablet, it is awesome, and only getting more so. Lets be real - its GPU is the same as the Droid X, and is not the most perful on the market. Tegra 2 (and one or two others) will soundly beat it, but at a price. Cheaper T2 platforms tend (so far) to have horrible screens, poor battery life, and are large. Other devices like the Tab, just are way over priced.
I think the nook has struck an excellent ballance. It has an excellent CPU, a capable GPU, plenty of ram, and one of the best looking screens out there. I love its form factor (the bezel is one of few NON ugly ones out there), handling, and capabilities, and the price is excellent ($250).
It is also really getting a community behind it, and i think we will see in the near future, many more custom ROMS which speed things up, add features (bluetooth), and generally improve user experience. Right now is an exciting time to be a nook owner..
If you are not planning on reading you MUST buy a memory card. Many android apps are hard coded to look in /sdcard for things and can't read or write to the internal memory on the nook. Google earth is one example. This could probably be fixed by a developer in a custom rom.
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It is also really getting a community behind it, and i think we will see in the near future, many more custom ROMS which speed things up, add features (bluetooth), and generally improve user experience. Right now is an exciting time to be a nook owner..
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That was one of my main reasons for choosing it over the Archos 70. I think the fact that the NC provides such great bang for the buck and is available at retail outlets across the USA gives it the potential to have a much larger following than something like the A70.
Adding bluetooth functionality will complete this thing.
The only con I've really felt was no mic :/ there slapped in crappy 10 dollar mp3s but not a eReader for memos/notes (tho its not useful) I could see voice search for books valuable.
Obviously want it for Voip not memos, Bt will be a fix but still.
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Ditto to above. The lack of a Back button can be worked around, and really only comes into play while in certain apps that don't show the standard Nook status bar at the bottom. So you can't swipe. Using SoftKeys, and setup the right way, (see forum for more info on that), then you can change the Nook button to launch SoftKeys, which gives you the Back button, and also, as a bonus, a Task Switcher pops up at the same time.
The only drawback I see is that in order to have decent sized icons and text, you need to change the density of the screen. This is fine for everything except the built in Nook apps, like the Store and what-not. The reader itself is fine. It just cuts off some of the text, but it's still usable. Personally, I just use the Kindle app, anyway, and don't ever launch the Nook apps, so it's a non-issue for me.
EDIT: I also dearly want Bluetooth to work, so I can use my GPS and BT headphones. But at least there's a BT radio in the thing. Just need to get one of the wizards to get it working. Last I heard, it was working, but only to two feet. Give me 3 feet and I'll be happy. The lack of Flash is a real bummer, of course, but also to be fixed in an upcoming 2.2 release from B&N, or you could go and install 2.2 right now and boot from sd card. Apparently, it's working pretty well. And, the lack of a mic is a small bummer, but I'm also hoping a wizard will write a USB driver that will work with a webcam/mic. All do-able stuff. Just a little time needed.
As a tablet its great. It has shortcomings like others have said but you have to take into consideration that this hardware with an IPS screen for $250 is an absolute steal even considering those shortcomings.
I am a long-time Kindle user who recently got into the world of Android with my first smartphone purchase (HTC Aria). I have really fallen in love with Android, in large part due to the excellent community here at XDA. I had started looking for an Android Tablet and stumbled across all of the info about the Nook, after a week or two of research, I decided to just go for it. I figured if I bought it at Walmart, I would have at least 30 days to decide if I wanted to keep it... and even if I bricked it somehow, I don't think Walmart customer service would know the difference and would still refund my purchase. Well, I bought the Nook Wednesday morning, rooted immediately and ended up selling my Kindle Thursday night to a co-worker. This is the real deal and I would highly recommend it to anyone looking for an e-reader and tablet device, as long as they enjoy modifying it.
P.S. I haven't figured out why everyone feels the need to change the LCD density settings... everything looks great stock to my eye.
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2. Adhoc wifi requires turning on/off wifi
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Just curious, what are you using ad-hoc wireless for? I use my android phone as a wireless hot-spot to provide internet to my Nook all night at work, that works fine, but I'm guessing that's not really ad-hoc or what you were referring to anyway.
I dont care for bluetooth, gps, or webcam. It doesnt bother me that flash doesnt work. I have flash on my phone and frankly, flash just makes webite load longer and most flash is just ads. It was an ok device preroot, now its a cheap capable tablet. I use it more than my pc. The only major gripe i have is that the edges of the screen seems to not register as well as the middle. But its not a dealbreaker.
Thanks guys. Just got one and its great! I was a bit skeptical at first after seeing before the root. Good info!
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911jason said:
Just curious, what are you using ad-hoc wireless for? I use my android phone as a wireless hot-spot to provide internet to my Nook all night at work, that works fine, but I'm guessing that's not really ad-hoc or what you were referring to anyway.
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The issue with Ad-Hoc is that some devices can not connect to Ad-Hoc networks. They can only connect to Infrastructure mode WiFi networks.
So the problem presents itself when a rooted phone using a wireless tether app is only capable of sharing WiFi via a Ad-Hoc network (Motorola Droid). The Nook Color then can not see the Ad-Hoc network and is unable to connect.
So the Ad-Hoc WiFi fix allows the Nook Color to see and connect to Ad-Hoc networks as well as Infrastructure networks.
If you have a newer phone, like the Droid X, I believe those phones transmit WiFi via Infrastructure mode, so there is no problem connecting any device to it as all devices work with infrastructure mode.
I hope that all makes sense.
Yep, that explains it. I wasn't aware that older phones were using adhoc wifi. Is that a hardware limitation or a ROM limitation?
911jason said:
Yep, that explains it. I wasn't aware that older phones were using adhoc wifi. Is that a hardware limitation or a ROM limitation?
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Hardware and software limitation, actually.
Most phones don't have a wifi chip capable of creating a true infrastructure-mode access point, but that is gradually changing. One of the reasons I bought an HTC Incredible is that it can.
But you also need tethering software that can use that mode. Newer versions of Wifi Tether can, for example, but older ones can't.
This month is the 12th month after I started to use WP7 and it's almost 3 month after I upgraded to mango using RTM built. 7.10.7720.68. when can we have that WIFI tethering?
Please correct me if i'm wrong but actual windows 7.5 release phones have it but the Mango release for older phones does not.
Correct. WiFi tethering will only be available with the new hardware. Kind of a bummer, but otherwise I would say its perfect.
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jelliottz said:
WiFi tethering will only be available with the new hardware.
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Wrong.....
Wifi tethering will be available on 1st gen devices that have the chipset to support it.
The HD7 / HD7s does have this chipset, and HTC have already said that they will push out a firmware update in the next month or so that will enable it.
The only barrier unfortunately is your mobile operator, who will either block it entirely or will require you pay an extra subscription to unlock it.
Or of course in future you can visit your friendly local xda forum and bypass such restrictions ;-)
i hope this is soon, i just got this hd7 phone and updated to mango. kinda disappointing that every other phone i've used had this feature. who would of thought such a small thing was used so often....
Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233612
The Samsung technique to enable Wifi tethering will not work for the HTC HD7. I've been using the USBModeSwitch tool by ansar to tether by USB to my Windows 7 laptop. The instructions are a bit long winded, but it works quite well in the end. The only trouble is that every time you want to tether you must run the USBModeSwitch app, the device resets, you must disable the data connection, and only then can you connect on your laptop. You must remember to re-enable the data connection on the phone afterwards, and must reboot your phone again if you want to return to Zune mode. There is also a risk; if you uninstall the USBModeSwitch app whilst in tethering mode, you will NOT be able to sync with Zune or reinstall USBSwitchMode afterwards, even if you hard reset; you will have to pay for a special cable and a Gold Card to fix it! So you have to be careful.
Good news though! I read somewhere (Engadget I think) this morning that Microsoft have said that "a further firmware update will be made available to Gen1 devices at the end of this month that will enable more features" (paraphrasing). I take this to mean that HTC, Samsung etc will push out another firmware update to enable WiFi Hotspot and other minor features like visual voicemail (for those networks that support it). Looking forward to this.
Good news though! I read somewhere (Engadget I think) this morning that Microsoft have said that "a further firmware update will be made available to Gen1 devices at the end of this month that will enable more features" (paraphrasing). I take this to mean that HTC, Samsung etc will push out another firmware update to enable WiFi Hotspot and other minor features like visual voicemail (for those networks that support it). Looking forward to this.[/QUOTE]
Can't wait for it
Its, November! Still nothing.
Just put the HTC Europe ROM from here on with WIFI hotspot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19049891#post19049891
No need for the European ROM anymore. Update is available today with internet sharing. Connect to Zune and you are on your way.
GreenHornet said:
No need for the European ROM anymore. Update is available today with internet sharing. Connect to Zune and you are on your way.
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Can anyone confirm this... My dad wants this feature and I'd rather keep his phone as closest to stock as possible, he isn't really a big tech person.
sahil04 said:
Can anyone confirm this... My dad wants this feature and I'd rather keep his phone as closest to stock as possible, he isn't really a big tech person.
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here it is -> proof.
sahil04 said:
Can anyone confirm this... My dad wants this feature and I'd rather keep his phone as closest to stock as possible, he isn't really a big tech person.
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Confirmed. Working on my HD7 Tmous
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here it is -> proof.
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roycio said:
Confirmed. Working on my HD7 Tmous
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Thanks for the replies. I just have one question left, is there a difference between the internet sharing in the official update and the internet sharing in the custom roms?
Like will the internet sharing in the official update prompt him to purchase a tethering plan compared to the custom rom not asking?
Thanks alot!
sahil04 said:
Thanks for the replies. I just have one question left, is there a difference between the internet sharing in the official update and the internet sharing in the custom roms?
Like will the internet sharing in the official update prompt him to purchase a tethering plan compared to the custom rom not asking?
Thanks alot!
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It just worked without asking me anything.
I don't think T-mobile actually charges for tethering or for internet sharing. I know that in October of last year they were going to start charging $15, but I don't think they went through with it. If you go to set up a plan, you can select Wi-Fi and tethering as an option for an additional $10, but the description is as follows:
"Stay connected -- get Wi-Fi access on your laptop, phone, and select cameras and gaming devices at places you already go, including Starbucks, Borders Books and Music stores, airports such as DFW, LAX and SFO, Barnes & Noble bookstores and many more."
So this looks to me like signing up for non-mobile hotspots, not for internet sharing.
I connected mine as well without it asking for anything. Same thing on my android that I owned before this.
Confirmed!
Yeeey finaly we got the WIFI internet sharing.
I'm finaly satisfied with this phone.
FInal peice of the puzzle
This is finally the phone I always wanted with the Wifi hotspot feature just made available.
Only took a year