I'm not sure if the app just doesnt know how to read the cpu speed on the streak 7 but I installed CPU gauge on my streak 7 (with DJ Steves perf mods) and it's only showing my cpu speed as 598Mhz.. Is this right or is the app just reading it wrong since it's a T2? something doesnt seem right.. either the app is wrong or this baby is severely underclocked
graffixnyc said:
I'm not sure if the app just doesnt know how to read the cpu speed on the streak 7 but I installed CPU gauge on my streak 7 (with DJ Steves perf mods) and it's only showing my cpu speed as 598Mhz.. Is this right or is the app just reading it wrong since it's a T2? something doesnt seem right.. either the app is wrong or this baby is severely underclocked
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What it is reading from, is probably /proc/cpuinfo
In that file, the BogoMIPS = 598
BogoMIPS is a kind of way of measuring CPU speed, but it is very different from what we normally understand as how fast it is.
So the best way to measure, is to assign some task (which utilize CPU intensively) and record to time. Do several times and get average messure.
Current market place there is no (to my best knowledge) apps that can correctly measure this Tegra 2 Dual Core yet.
Please let me know if anyone here found one that ACTUALLY measures correctly.
Many claims so, but what they are doing is just cat /proc/cpuinfo, which is incorrect/inaccurate.
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Wonderful! I have the ROM Lucapicci 1.8.1 and it works very well!
http://rapidshare.com/files/224152407/Performance.exe
I think that software can be dangerous to our HD´s, have you used it during a long time? any crash?
I'm using it from 2 days without problems!
Can you at least post some more info or some screenshots.
Never know, this may just be a virus
However I have no responsibilities. Is your risk!
Good work!
How about battery usage and warming?
overclocking about 20% for such a small device, i think is not very good.
2 days no problem i think is because u havn't used maximal of the clock, if you do that constantly, i think your touch HD might start crashing (more often, it crashs quiet often already ))
Hmm I´m a big fan of every overclocking (my home pc processor is a core 2 quad that normaly has 2.4GHz and it´s working on 4.1GHz without any problems).
Now my question is where can I see that the cpu of the touch hd really runs on 624MHz? And can someone post some benchmark tests comparing to the normal speed of 520MHz please???
I did not benchmark but it is obvious when you open applications or windows folder of HD simply.
it's a fake ... isn't the first post a the subject
Im sure that its fake! it doesnt work on qualcomms cpu.. make some benchs (coreplayer, sktools) then u ll see that there´s no difference btw 528 and 624mhz...
bye
Fake
Just instaled, Bench and the results
CPU Performance: Float : 713
CPU Performance: Integer : 8216
versus std
CPU Performance: Float : 785
CPU Performance: Integer : 8220
These are pure CPU. No bottle necks. Should see approx 20% improvement
eg
900 and 9850
Its a fake
i wouldnt overclock my 900 dollar hd anyways. i used to overclock my palm tungsten devices and a couple of my treos that used pxa procs and it shortend their life considerably. i would take them from the stock 200 and 312 to 312 and 400 respectively. it did improver performance for certain things like viewing pics and watching video but i have no performance issues with the HD
Its definately not working.
I made some benchmarks!
Nothing changes, shame! Perhaps it is definitely a fake! But he's nice!
I'm sorry!
This is the standard HTC Performance application that hasn't worked for years, from before the Vogue. Doesn't support the new Qualcomm processors.
How about this?
I don't think this is fake but who is willing to fry their HD?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507301&highlight=clockspeed
I don't understand one thing. First of all, whether if the poster is posting something real or not, I will for sure not trying to OC my device. I luv my device in anyway, and I've no complaint with the speed, even if I do, I would blame on the operating system and the software, not the hardware.
I wouldn't putting stress to my HD if I were you guys. OC nature is like this, "if you take something, you must give away something too"! What is wrong with the HD that needed to be oc??????
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I wouldn't putting stress to my HD if I were you guys. OC nature is like this, "if you take something, you must give away something too"! What is wrong with the HD that needed to be oc??????
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I think you don't understand the overclockers . Some guys are keen on getting the maximum out of their devices, its not really rational at all, but its good to know whether something like this is possible, or not.
its a choose I would not risk it , its not a PC only a mobile phone, the speed on HD currently we have is far better than shorten it life by putting overload clock speed, Kill your HD if you like
ive been liking android so far and because overlocking is so simple ive been wanting to try it to hopefully squeeze a little more performance out of the vogue
i just have some questions
whats the highest safe/stable speed?
ive heard some have gone up to 550mhz and quite a few that are at about 500mhz just wanted to know the general consensus from vogue users
my next question is if i clocked up that high should i be worried about heat?
thanks
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i just have some questions whats the highest safe/stable speed? thanks
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Every CPU is different so this can't be answered. Your's may not overclock 1mhz, it may overclock 100mhz. You just have to try.
Just in case you are interested.
The clock speed must be a multiple of 19.2 so the available speeds between 380 and 600MHz are:
384
400 (because it uses a different pll)
403.2
422.4
441.6
460.8
480
499.2
518.4
537.6
556.8
576
595.2
Other values will be rounded down to one of these.
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whats the highest safe/stable speed?
ive heard some have gone up to 550mhz and quite a few that are at about
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Stable speed is ALWAYS device-dependent.
Some chips have minor defects (just a fact of manufacturing).
NEVER, EVER just shove it to 550Mhz. Best case your phone will crash. Worst case your phone will burn up.
General rule of overclocking:
1. Increase the clock speed 2-5%
2. Run an intensive app (there's a benchmarking app in the RogueTools trhead) to see if the phone crashes. Run it multiple times (or continuously) for a half hour with the phone plug in.
3a. If it doesn't crash, go back to step 1.
3b. If it crashes, go back 1 or 2 19.2 Mhz steps. This is your stable overclock frequency.
For the 2-5%, as mentioned above, just do every 20 Mhz. Set it to 420, 440, 460, 480, 500, etc.... I wouldn't go past 540.
So i have been able to clock my captivate to a stable 1300 using suckerpunch #57. I'm wondering though how often do you think are phones actually use this frequency? i know when i'm running a psx emulator im sure that it probably has the cpu maxed out, which runs tekken 3 beautifully now at no lower then 48 fps, but i hope on not much else (would be nice to find an app that would put the cpu used clock speed on taskbar). Only reason i wonder is because of course phones don't have cooling systems like computers so i worry about cpu life.
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So i have been able to clock my captivate to a stable 1300 using suckerpunch #57. I'm wondering though how often do you think are phones actually use this frequency? i know when i'm running a psx emulator im sure that it probably has the cpu maxed out, which runs tekken 3 beautifully now at no lower then 48 fps, but i hope on not much else (would be nice to find an app that would put the cpu used clock speed on taskbar). Only reason i wonder is because of course phones don't have cooling systems like computers so i worry about cpu life.
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i have never seen the cpu get hot in my phone. it gets unstable before any heat is detected, but my phone is not very overclockable, i can get 1.3 with much care to the uv settings. i wouldnt worry about heat until the 1.4 mark, even then you are probably fine. the newer qualcom chips have been set to run at 1.9ghz and dont burn up they are on the same size architecture as ours. these arm chips run at such low voltages that heat is not really a big problem. i dont think anyone on the board has killed a hummingbird from overclocking it.
I think your speaking pre-emptively about not burning up.
Just because the chip doesn't instantly melt doesn't mean your not risking electro migration.
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So i have been able to clock my captivate to a stable 1300 using suckerpunch #57. I'm wondering though how often do you think are phones actually use this frequency? i know when i'm running a psx emulator im sure that it probably has the cpu maxed out, which runs tekken 3 beautifully now at no lower then 48 fps, but i hope on not much else (would be nice to find an app that would put the cpu used clock speed on taskbar). Only reason i wonder is because of course phones don't have cooling systems like computers so i worry about cpu life.
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this chip has a built in fail safe and can run as long as it can handle it automatically freezes or reboot your phone above its capable limit. If you want real time monitoring of your cpu clock speed/usage, ram usage and battery temp download Temp+CPU V2 widget from the market pretty good app. enjoy
Hi guys. I looking forward to ROM with can work at 1.2GHz. I think most of XDA users have modified ROM working at 1.2GHz, so everything fine? It's save to run Galxy Tab at 1.2GHz?
1.2 has been stable for me for well over a month now. I run 1.4 from time to time when I want to play games or just show off. Some tabs report overheating, but use setCPU profiles to alert you if that happens and you wont run into any problems. I have setCPU to warn me at 40 degrees and at 41 it goes down to 800mhz. Just keep your eyes on the temperature to be safe.
Its a popular misconception that the tab runs at overclock frequency ALL THE time. Unless the kernel (which I seriously doubt coz that would be stupid) is programmed to run at maximum clock frequency or you have set it up yourself (with setCPU or voltage control or w/e overclocking utility you use) which is basically an explosion waiting to happen (or at least crash). The tab runs at a RANGE of frequencies it runs at max frequency (1.2 or 1.4) on demand like playing a game or an HD movie or anything stressful.
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Its a popular misconception that the tab runs at overclock frequency ALL THE time. Unless the kernel (which I seriously doubt coz that would be stupid) is programmed to run at maximum clock frequency or you have set it up yourself (with setCPU or voltage control or w/e overclocking utility you use) which is basically an explosion waiting to happen (or at least crash). The tab runs at a RANGE of frequencies it runs at max frequency (1.2 or 1.4) on demand like playing a game or an HD movie or anything stressful.
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You want to say, like PC CPU, that Tab ARM Cortex A8 chip working on range of frequencies? It's possible because of battery save, but I think Tab's Cortex A8 is designed to work at 1GHz all the time without any problems.
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You want to say, like PC CPU, that Tab ARM Cortex A8 chip working on range of frequencies? It's possible because of battery save, but I think Tab's Cortex A8 is designed to work at 1GHz all the time without any problems.
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DarkPal is right.
While you're theoretically correct too, in the sense that the Tab's Hummingbird is designed to be able to work at 1Ghz all the time, by why would you want to do that? It'll kill your battery if you set it to run at 1Ghz all the time, much less at the higher frequencies that these CPU were not rated to run. Not to mention the heat issues.
There's a reason these ARM-based chips scale up and down the frequency scale according to the CPU governors' settings and load demand, and that's why ARM-based chips are known for their battery savings.
galaxy tab 4G Lte runs at 1.2Ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_4g_lte-3769.php
I've been running mine at 1.4 for about a month now but undervolted too. Perfectly stable. If you are using SetCPU app you'll be able to see how much time your tab spends at each level.
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Bit of a noob question but apart from games in what other areas does overclocking help?
I notice the difference with video. Crisper and smoother. It's not a big thing, but why not do it if you can?
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I notice the difference with video. Crisper and smoother. It's not a big thing, but why not do it if you can?
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Because it does run your battery faster and hotter, as well as the processor itself...
Force a sprinter to run 5 miles, they can do it, but I bet they tear something along the way...
Oh yeah, thanks to the illustrious Rotohammer that's not a problem...
Ever since I upgraded to Roto's JMI ROM and a few other tweaks [ see my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12786456*** Galaxy Tab Master Tweak Thread*** ] the battery life on the galaxy tab has been absolutely insane. Even though the phone is overclocked to 1.4 Mhz.
I used to come home at the end of the day (before overclocking) and my battery would be approximately 15 percent, now it's always over 50 percent. I don't know what the black magic is, but it is good...
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Soon, I am getting a Wi-Fi only Streak 7. I have read on several sites that, despite having a Tegra 2, the CPU is clocked to 800mhz per core, to save battery life, rather than 1ghz.
I recall having an old Palm that came underclocked, and hearing that it used the "throwaway" CPUs. When a batch of CPU cores was not able to perform during the QA testing, they would sell it to Palm, who underclocked it. Basically, overclocking to the max clock rate of the processor would be more than it was intended to handle, similar to overclocking a Tegra 2 higher than the rated 1ghz.
Before I set 1ghz as my constant clock rate, I would like to make sure that the CPU is a good Tegra 2, and not a "throwaway" that was underclocked to prevent damage.
Basically, my question is, can the processor on the Streak 7 safely run as fast as another device running the Tegra 2 processor, or are these the processors that didn't make it into another device because they failed QA testing? I plan on setting 1ghz for most uses, but overclocking to 1.2 or so for emulators and certain games.
Thank you
bump. Same question here. I have the wifi version also and it has been getting a little laggy.
Well me personally, I have been running at 1Ghz for several weeks. Seems fine, gets warm when I play specific games. But for random work and internet usage it runs great.
Thats a myth. Cpu is 1ghz for both cores.. You can downclock if u wish though I doubt its gonna make.much diff to battery
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I ran it at 800MHz for a bit to see if it would help conserve battery. It didn't, but it also didn't negatively affect performance. The Tegra2 is really a great SoC.
DJ_Steve said:
Thats a myth. Cpu is 1ghz for both cores.. You can downclock if u wish though I doubt its gonna make.much diff to battery
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So, the Streak 7 is NOT underclocked from the factory?
And on a related note, I've heard some programs allow you to overclock and underclock without a custom kernel. Which of these, if any, work on the Streak 7? I can undo rooting it, but I'd rather not flash over it with a custom kernel, in case I need to send it in for repair.'
EDIT: If you search for "Dell Streak 7 800mhz", you find a few reviews stating that Dell underclocked it. Figured I should show the link, so people don't think I'm crazy. I've also found an article saying that it auto-downclocks, running 1ghz as needed, 800mhz when not neeed. That seems to make more sense.
It absolutely is not underclocked by default tho by the design of the core it does not run at full tilt all the time and drops back to 216mhz when idle -goolge cpufreq for info bout that
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Hey guys, I just lost my ability to adjust my setcpu over 516mhz. This happen to anyone else?
Says something along the lines like it cant find my setcpu config.
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Never happened to me. I was always under the impression that, unless you are using a custom config file, it'll just use the settings that your kernel lets you use.