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Correct way of wiping/reinstalling CM5.0.7 w/apps2sd

So, I have a few apps installed on my G1 and am running CM5.0.7. My phone is doing some strange things, so I wanted to wipe and reinstall. I know how to wipe, and I have found many different scenarios and ways to wipe, then flash the rom and the core gapps... my question is, can I do this without having to reinstall the apps on my SD? I thought I saw someone mention that, after wiping and reflashing, they skip the account login section first...?
Whats the proper way to wipe and reflash while keeping the apps I have?

If you wipe, your apps are gone. Backup apps using titanium (best backup app out there) BEFORE wiping and reinstalling.
When you sign in to google account, hit the menu key and you can disable restore apps. This allows you to login and it won't restore your apps. Then you can re-download your apps or restore using your backup app.
If you want apps2sd, make sure you turn on apps2sd BEFORE restoring/re-downloading your apps, especially if you have a lot of apps, otherwise you could get the low memory space warning.

Soooo, if I understand you correctly, I need to do the following. I already have apps2sd on, so this is what I imagine I must do:
Install Titanium and perform backyp
Turn off the option of google backing up my apps/settings
Wipe phone
Install Cyanogen
Install gapps
Login again with the option to sync my apps and setting Off
Ensure apps2sd is on
Install Titanium again
Restore using Titanium
I am assuming Titanium is an app in the market?

Or you can turn apps2sd on in setting>applications
then
You can go setting>applications>manage applications
click on an app and you'll see an option where it says move. Click on that and then where is says internal at the top it should now say SDCARD.
You would have to go through every app you have though.
I use that and Linda manager to back up my apps.

fermunky said:
Soooo, if I understand you correctly, I need to do the following. I already have apps2sd on, so this is what I imagine I must do:
Install Titanium and perform backyp
Turn off the option of google backing up my apps/settings
Wipe phone
Install Cyanogen
Install gapps
Login again with the option to sync my apps and setting Off
Ensure apps2sd is on
Install Titanium again
Restore using Titanium
I am assuming Titanium is an app in the market?
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I do all those steps except no. 2 - and yes, titanium is an app in the market. It's donateware... free but there's some additional goodies if you want to donate. This app is a lifesaver.

best app to backup all apps/settings.

just wondering if anyone has some input as to what the best app to backup all my setting/apps.

If rooted, Titanium Backup is great!
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J.L.C. said:
If rooted, Titanium Backup is great!
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I also agree with Titanium Backup.
The small donation is REALLY recommended.
I flash a new ROM maybe, once a month, or every few weeks.
I tinker with alot of apps, ROMs and things. SO I'm always messing with my Nexus.
Having the latest of my favorite apps + data, is crucial to me.
After flashing a new ROM, or upgrade, i ALWAYS WIPE. Even though they often say you don't need to, but I do anyways, just because I don't mind starting fresh.
It takes me no more then 10-15 minutes to restore a couple dozen apps + data

Titanium Backup.
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EDIT: One note when using Titanium Backup: When you load a new ROM, don't just restore everything that you backed up. Some times the new ROM may have newer versions of systems files or things like the browser and such, so you wouldn't want to revert back to your old version. I usually hit "restore all apps and system data", then deselect all and hand pick what I want to restore (a good time for ****ty app clean up too). Common things to restore other than your favorite apps (with data) are browser bookmarks, call log, sms log etc.

Titanium here as well
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thanks alot, i will download titanium backup now and check it out.

thanks for it

I'm using MIUI and MIUI backup also best.

What would be the best option if you're not rooted? I want to unlock my bootloader and root to be able to use root apps but otherwise remain stock, what could I use to backup and restore for the data wipe that unlocking it will do?

Can't do anything to back up apps data without root, sorry. Root privileges are required to access that data. You could only backup phonebook/call log/sms/etc.

Jack_R1 said:
Can't do anything to back up apps data without root, sorry. Root privileges are required to access that data. You could only backup phonebook/call log/sms/etc.
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Welp. At least the apps that actually require effort to set up (launcher pro, widgetsoid, minimal text) all have xml export.

+1 on Titanium Backup, worth every penny for paid version.

Titanium backup error.

I use titanium backup pro for my apps.
I did a full backup all apps + data
I realized that now I see no apps in the market.
If I go to market->my apps. It says no apps downloaded from the market.
Now I can't get any updates or anything. Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
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Try
Settings
Applications
Manage
All
Market
Clear data

mcord11758 said:
Try
Settings
Applications
Manage
All
Market
Clear data
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Thank you so much!!! Its fixed!
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no problem

I now realized that everytime I do a backup on titanium backup I lose all my app's market link....
Is there a fix for this?
Sent from my phone

I use Titanium Backup before and after ROM flashes, or lots of app updates, and I haven't seen this issue on my Samsung Captivate. I have v3.6.7.1 of Titanium Backup running on a Pheonix ROM. Just to confirm, I re-ran the batch "backup all user apps + system data" and after it completed, checked the market "My apps" area. Everything shows as expected in the "My apps" area on my phone.

Well i have the 3.6.0 paid version sideloaded.. Im running darky..
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Titanium Backup for new ROMs

This is probably very noob of me but I'll ask it anyways...... This just dawned on me to back up everything via titanium Backup then use the file to restore on new custom ROMs. Instead if using Google back up to download everytime. Can I presumably download like Pico gapps with virtually nothing, back up all my user and system apps with titanium Backup then restore everything everything on the new rom and I'll have all the apps and system apps from my previous rom?
If I back up user apps and system apps with titanium Backup then restore will my call logs, texts, etc also be installed?

mikeprius said:
This is probably very noob of me but I'll ask it anyways...... This just dawned on me to back up everything via titanium Backup then use the file to restore on new custom ROMs. Instead if using Google back up to download everytime. Can I presumably download like Pico gapps with virtually nothing, back up all my user and system apps with titanium Backup then restore everything everything on the new rom and I'll have all the apps and system apps from my previous rom?
If I back up user apps and system apps with titanium Backup then restore will my call logs, texts, etc also be installed?
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Rule #1 as you will see as you get more into this you NEVER restore "system" apps this will create FC - force closures and errors all day long. Only restore user apps and data.
If coming from a Samsung going to a Nexus for example, you would TiBu all your users apps/data on Samsung to restore to Nexus. You do not have to restore the Google backup you can...but more senior people like me setup device as a new device. Google restore does not bring over your user data and settings like TiBu will. TiBu will give you exactly what the app was like on the old device....google will not in majority of cases...for me none.
- TiBu user app/data and no system data
- Setup new device as new and restore TiBu app/data. Can do the Google it you like and then let TiBu overwrite it
You can install the Pico gapps. Let's say you had a new rom without Google Newstand...even if it was not in the gapps your TiBu would restore it just fine with no issues.... But the gapps does add other background google services you need not visible to eye like apps...but the apps can fully come from your backup even if they dont exist on the new device.
No you will not get your call log, etc since you do not restore system info. But there are third party apps that can back that up if that is that important. I use apps like Textra and not device messaging apps so when TiBu restores Textra I get it all back old messages\etc....again you do not want to restore 'red' system apps but find 3rd party apps that backup call log, text (if google app), etc.

What if it's the same device but different rom. Would restoring system apps also create issues

mikeprius said:
What if it's the same device but different rom. Would restoring system apps also create issues
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Still you do not want to do that....you could be dealing with a phone that is the same but the build version of the OS could be different and those systems updates could have different version numbers. So restoring systems adds that are not exact as the previous could result in bad situation.
If you are going from same device to same device, then you can backup...do a TWRP or Nandroid backup which will give you an image backup of exactly what you have with data and system.
If you do a full backup, you could experiment and gamble doing it your way and if it goes back...just restore the backup.

parcou said:
Still you do not want to do that....you could be dealing with a phone that is the same but the build version of the OS could be different and those systems updates could have different version numbers. So restoring systems adds that are not exact as the previous could result in bad situation.
If you are going from same device to same device, then you can backup...do a TWRP or Nandroid backup which will give you an image backup of exactly what you have with data and system.
If you do a full backup, you could experiment and gamble doing it your way and if it goes back...just restore the backup.
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Thanks for the info. I'll just stick with the user apps and back them into a folder. You also recommended textra for texts? So it will just back up like a normal user app and you can keep all your text messages that way?

Restore apps from a nandroid backup using Titanium Backup

I am trying to restore all of my apps from my Nandroid backup.
The thing is after analyzing TWRP backup it is showing all the apps that needs to extract.
1. There is no smiley on the right side of the app list, Smiley indicates the app is already installed.
2. Select missing apps does nothing.
3. When I select a single app (for example Solid Explorer) to extract it says Processing 0% after few seconds everything closes and there is a notification "Batch restore finished." But the app never get installed I even tried rebooting the phone after the restore there is no app restored.
Can someone help me with this issue please.
I really need those apps from that Nandroid backup.
P.S. I even tried that Nandroid Manager, it only restores the app not the data.

I'm confused, if you use Titanium, why did you just backup your app data with Titanium?
I've never used the function to extract from nandroid. But it would seem to me, not as simple or reliable as just using Titanium to backup.

redpoint73 said:
I'm confused, if you use Titanium, why did you just backup your app data with Titanium?
I've never used the function to extract from nandroid. But it would seem to me, not as simple or reliable as just using Titanium to backup.
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The thing is I don't have a back up from Titanium and my phone got formatted while updating it and I only have a Nandroid backup so, I need to recover the apps from nandroid backup only.
Hope this clears it up.

ManikandanGuru said:
The thing is I don't have a back up from Titanium and my phone got formatted while updating it and I only have a Nandroid backup so, I need to recover the apps from nandroid backup only.
Hope this clears it up.
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Got it. I often will do a batch backup with Titanium, then copy the Titanium folder to my computer. Especially before updating, ROM flashing, etc. Maybe a lot of extra work (and some may consider it a bit paranoid) but it would have avoided the current situation. I don't completely trust the internal storage will not be wiped (even though it isn't "supposed" to be) and you see for good reason, in this case.
Never actually tried it, but restoring in Titanium from a nandroid seems tricky to me. Just adding more points of failure/complication.
If you try to install an app by other means (Play store, etc.) than restore app data only, does it work?
Another workaround (although convoluted) may be to restore the nandroid, either data only (may cause problems on the updated ROM, I know); or restore the whole thing and make a Titanium backup and then go back to the "updated" ROM. So yeah, like I said, convoluted. I would also consider making a nandroid of the current setup (to restore to as needed) before doing any of the above. Lots of steps I know, but a workaround, nonetheless.
I've definitely had to resort to restoring a nandroid, since I forgot to backup apps with Titanium. So flip flopping back and forth, backing up and restoring with Titanium, etc. Yes, it's a pain, but it works.

redpoint73 said:
Got it. I often will do a batch backup with Titanium, then copy the Titanium folder to my computer. Especially before updating, ROM flashing, etc. Maybe a lot of extra work (and some may consider it a bit paranoid) but it would have avoided the current situation. I don't completely trust the internal storage will not be wiped (even though it isn't "supposed" to be) and you see for good reason, in this case.
Never actually tried it, but restoring in Titanium from a nandroid seems tricky to me. Just adding more points of failure/complication.
If you try to install an app by other means (Play store, etc.) than restore app data only, does it work?
Another workaround (although convoluted) may be to restore the nandroid, either data only (may cause problems on the updated ROM, I know); or restore the whole thing and make a Titanium backup and then go back to the "updated" ROM. So yeah, like I said, convoluted. I would also consider making a nandroid of the current setup (to restore to as needed) before doing any of the above. Lots of steps I know, but a workaround, nonetheless.
I've definitely had to resort to restoring a nandroid, since I forgot to backup apps with Titanium. So flip flopping back and forth, backing up and restoring with Titanium, etc. Yes, it's a pain, but it works.
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Yeah, whatever you said were true and I used to do your method couple of years back and all of my recurring dirty flashes went without any issues and I completely ignored the Titanium backup and went with the Nandroid backup only.
About this thread I got tired and installed all the apps from play store
More than 100 apps I think. Lot of work but a great lesson. I am going to make a Titanium Backup before every update from now on.
Thanks for the reply buddy. :good::good:

if it doesnt work with TB you can just restore your nandroid and then take the backups with TB.
maybe still easier than reconfiguring 100 of apps.

I actually can't restore my nandroid backup successfully.
When it's restored, the screen won't come on (all black) but recovery works and what's weirder is, that when I hold the pwr button, the icons for 'turn off' and 'reboot' come up, but I can't see the wallpaper, no lockscreen, nothing
Installed OS from scratch and now I'm trying to recover all my apps from the nandroid backup without messing it up again

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I want to chime in for anyone who arrives from google search: I had the same problem.
The solution? Install the APKs first, be it from Google Play or manually, and then restore only data from the nandroid. That worked for me.

SOLUTION (working on lineage 14): restore apps with Nandroid Manager and restore data with Titanium Backup.

Just so everyone is on the same page:
Nandroid Manager only seems to be able to recover Apps, but hangs on Data.
Titanium Backup can recover both, but the button to select Missing Apps doesn't work.
B also requires that you copy your backup to the internal SD, or else it will not be discovered.
Fix: Select missing Apps in Nandoid Manager > restore only App > take a note of the apps that you restored > use Titanium Backup to restore the data.

skuppej said:
Fix: Select missing Apps in Nandoid Manager > restore only App > take a note of the apps that you restored > use Titanium Backup to restore the data.
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Since the app has been pulled from playstore and not being actively developed, do you think it still works? My phone went into a bootloop when restarting and I made a nandroid backup of data. I flashed the same rom again after clearing the system and data partion. I started the phone and booted up just fine. But when I went to twrp again to restore the data backup, it went into bootloop again. I want to extract and restore the data only for few apps, do you think this method would work?

abhi8192 said:
Since the app has been pulled from playstore and not being actively developed, do you think it still works? My phone went into a bootloop when restarting and I made a nandroid backup of data. I flashed the same rom again after clearing the system and data partion. I started the phone and booted up just fine. But when I went to twrp again to restore the data backup, it went into bootloop again. I want to extract and restore the data only for few apps, do you think this method would work?
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Yeah I think it will still work!

abhi8192 said:
I want to extract and restore the data only for few apps, do you think this method would work?
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I found this solution! "Automate individual app restores from an android TWRP backup" https://github.com/joshuabragge/twrp-manual-restore