X1 Android without Haret?! - XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there
I heard, that for some HTC devices theres a "direct flash" option for installing Android into the ROM? (means not using Haret.exe or loading from SD)
Is there such option for X1 too?
I tried to search, but have no idea what to search for :-/
Kind regards

yeah, it's possible. with HD2 you can flash not WM but Android. this method is "NAND flashing".
It can be possible for our device too, but 1st problem is there's not any fully or maybe 90% working Android build for X1.
there're not stable, fast, for long time use Android builds for X1.
and the 2nd problem is, to flash with NAND method it needs some ROM, flashing customizations, some bootloader cracks.
HD2 owner develepers made them for their device. But with X1 it's not possible...

Ahh, yes HD2
Sadly our company has X1 for their employees...
Currently I am using an X2 port which is better than original X1 ROM, but quite slooow.

Why not use wm6.5 build 29007 with sense 2019 its the most stable with good battery life, and dual boot with your X1 .. There is a software out there where you can set the boot to android only. I havent tried that yet but will do soon enough.
Still having fun trying to make android work on my X1 without devouring its battery

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Touchflo3d CAB or 6.5 or cooked ROMs??

Once again, im a little confused...i have a brand new X1..am thinnking what should I do...
should i upgrade to WM 6.5..(I dont want a cooked ROM, iwant an official 6.5 OS that i can install, upgrade, like we do when we go to Vista to Win7 etc.
BTW: Can u provide me a link for an unofficial but clean OS)
OR
Should I go on installing a cab of a TouchFlo3d
OR
Flash my X1 with a cooked ROM (still cant understand which one)
Thanx a lot..
Personally if your even contemplating flashing your X1, you might as well go with one of the 6.5 builds, they are far superior in My Opinion to the 6.1
there are several good ones out there, so its personla choice as to which you use, I guess it depends on Features cooked in, applications, battery life, stability etc.
Flash Cooked ROM with 6.5. Recent ones are very fast due to having better drivers support as opposed to stock roms
Cab of TF3D won't be optimized.. would be sluggish
alrite i agre with what you are saying cykalu, but then again, these cooked ROMs wont be originals rite? and not only that, are they all BETA or full and final ROMs??
Just wanted to know...
circleofomega said:
alrite i agre with what you are saying cykalu, but then again, these cooked ROMs wont be originals rite? and not only that, are they all BETA or full and final ROMs??
Just wanted to know...
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They won't be original but Sony Ericsson decided not to give X1 users the latest (6.5) updates. Therefore all cooked 6.5 roms are much better than original because the chefs has included and tweaked around with X2's drivers so X1 can use them which are more optimized than SE's stuff.
Beta or no Beta, as long as they work it's good. look at Windows 7 RC2, it's beta but it was basically the final after a few minor patches..
If you aren't a user who likes fiddling with your device I recommend you stick with stock ROMs. Cooked ROMs usually have bugs which range from minor to game-ending (e.g. the reset bug that seems to exist in every cooked ROM).
Personally I'm not a fan of Touchflo (especially the Leo version), it makes the inconsistent WM interface even more inconsistent.
If you really want WM6.5, flash gtrab's 5.07 ROM and install the X2 cabs from the themes and applications forum. It'll be as close as you can get to a WM6.5 ROM upgrade. There are only two bugs with this ROM that I've found, one of which is fixed by installing the X2 dialer (the other one is the reset bug that every ROM seems to have). Just sync with MS My Phone or something to minimise the impact.
circleofomega said:
Once again, im a little confused...i have a brand new X1..am thinnking what should I do...
should i upgrade to WM 6.5..(I dont want a cooked ROM, iwant an official 6.5 OS that i can install, upgrade, like we do when we go to Vista to Win7 etc.
BTW: Can u provide me a link for an unofficial but clean OS)
OR
Should I go on installing a cab of a TouchFlo3d
OR
Flash my X1 with a cooked ROM (still cant understand which one)
Thanx a lot..
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I know exactly how you feel about modifying your new xperia...I was like this one month ago...My xperia is only 3 months old so I was little nervous....So I went through all the flashing tutorials in here and also downloaded BioVolt's video tutorials...And one month back I flashed my xperia for the first time...I flashed it with the Xperia Unoffcial release ROM, I did all the steps exactly as it was mentioned in the tutorials and my xperia was flashed successfully...but after that I tried to do the hard reset, I wasnt able to do hard reset twice...I thought I bricked my phone ....i was little panic...I once again went through the tutorials and done it third time...This time I was able to do a hard reset successfully and my phone booted up with the new Unofficial Xperia 6.5...after that I flashed 2 or 3 ROMs and finally sticked up with Sonblack's SB20 release which I found to be stable,fast and attractive with its touchflow manila interface...I dint had any weird experience with this one...

Are all the 6.5 ROMs available here are BETAs?

I am a little confused (as usual)...
1.Many HTC phones have a 6.5 runinng, but also have Manila 2.X rite?
2. I want an original OS upgrade from 6.1 to 6.5 (NOT BETA or cooked ROMs plz)
3. what would be better:
the home screen of HTC phones Manila 2.5 or .6 OR
the WinmO 6.5 home screen...
(basically i just want to know the links of an original, OEM OS 6.5)
Thanx a ton!!
circleofomega said:
I am a little confused (as usual)...
1.Many HTC phones have a 6.5 runinng, but also have Manila 2.X rite?
2. I want an original OS upgrade from 6.1 to 6.5 (NOT BETA or cooked ROMs plz)
3. what would be better:
the home screen of HTC phones Manila 2.5 or .6 OR
the WinmO 6.5 home screen...
(basically i just want to know the links of an original, OEM OS 6.5)
Thanx a ton!!
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Hey yaar...Just keep im mind that there is no official 6.5 upgrade for Xperia X1 till now...It was told like SE will not be releasing an OS upgrade for xperia x1...So if you want to upgrade you can try those cooked roms out there...There are a lot of them out there you can try and stick on one that you like...If you like the manil 2.5 interface you can try Sonblack's releases, I think a new one will be releasing today...There are lot of other ROMs based on manila...
There's no official 6.5 update, so if you want an official release you're stuck with the original 6.1 build.
Your choices are simple:
a) Stay on 6.1
or
b) Try one of the excellent (unofficial) ROMs on the site. You can always go back to your official ROM if you can't find one you like.
Just try some.
Each UI has something which you like or dislike
1. Manila:
- Eye candy
- Easier to access programs
but:
- Need more ram
- Manila 2.5 doesn't support landcape
- Camera works not right
2. Default 6.5 UI:
- Quick
- Need less ram
but:
- harder to access programs
- not change much compare to the 6.1 one
no no..u guys didnt get me,
I just want an unofficial but UNTOUCHED ROM..i dont want it to be cooked,like the ones we get for computers on torrents..
even they are unofficial, but they are full and final..that kinnda thing, a clean installation file...
circleofomega said:
no no..u guys didnt get me,
I just want an unofficial but UNTOUCHED ROM..i dont want it to be cooked,like the ones we get for computers on torrents..
even they are unofficial, but they are full and final..that kinnda thing, a clean installation file...
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no offense meant...but as you are posting in the rom section, why don't you start reading there as well?
there's killer8nl (christians), gtrab (pure windows), spikegotti (unoff) and who knows how many more with clean roms (most based on X1, some on other devices), sounds like what you are looking for and most of them are on page 1 too...just choose one
Spikegotti's ROM (unoff) seems to be the cleanest version. search for it and flash it.
Cheers!
thanx guys....DrakenKorin, point taken..
i will look for cleanest ROM...also, how does the OS adjust to the hardware??
Like, the OS running in X2 is also 6.5..the one running in HTC HD also is (perhaps) 6.5..so which one should i download and flash??
also, wil the panel interface be wiped out...or, shud i simply download X2 clean ROM??
yeah, both of them(x2 and HTC HD2) are using 6.5
x2 specs is same with x1, you can down the x2(cooked room) to flash. Because x2 hasn't released yet.
Anyway, if you looking for x1 clean room, you should check unoff version or pure one.
just one question...on the killer8nl's tutorials, it says i need to HardSPL...then it says the mirco SD method..am i supposed to do both or simply put the thing in my SD card and go ahead (volume down+power button) and go ahead...??
BTW: what does "doing HardSPL" mean..it means back up rite???
circleofomega said:
just one question...on the killer8nl's tutorials, it says i need to HardSPL...then it says the mirco SD method..am i supposed to do both or simply put the thing in my SD card and go ahead (volume down+power button) and go ahead...??
BTW: what does "doing HardSPL" mean..it means back up rite???
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hardspl is strictly mandatory and what you have to do first, otherwise no ROM update possible!
then you can choose whether you take custom_ruu or sd method
I prefer sd, that way you are more flexible and don't need to sync with PC
hardspl is a second program loader stored on your device, nothing to do with backup
there are tutorials for everything (all sticky)
Hard-SPL
custom ruu method
sd card method
how to flash
always hard reset afterwards
Ok..so how do i get the X2 OS on my X1..(i know im gonna see a lot of xperts fume with this question)
DrakenKorin...thanx for your help..i just realized that even though many phones have 6.5 OS, their interfaces vary from device to device..i just saw the X2 review again and decided i want that OS..its superb, (i didnt like the tile interface)..so now, again where do i get this OS?? (as before, clean and [un] Official)
thanx a ton once again!
2. I want an original OS upgrade from 6.1 to 6.5 (NOT BETA or cooked ROMs plz)
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there aren't any beta roms here anymore dude, ALL 6.5 roms you find here (meaning the recent ones) are completed builds, newer builds are just updates to the previous
there aren't anything known as and un-cooked rom as in not cooked, it must be cooked/compiled in order to be a rom, because the files and folders from microsoft must be compiled with OEM stuff and other goodies to make it a flashable ROM
if you mean you need something clean as if it came from SEUS, then try any two of my roms on my sig
WOW!!
i got spikegotti to reply to me....thanx a lot man...it feels really good to speak to some experts like u anyways, when i search on XDA X2 ROM, i mainly get all the BETAs...
1. there is a RAW dump(and it strictly says for the experts)
2.then there is a ROM uploaded....
so cant figure out which one is the full and final one.
spikegotti..i just did a lil research on my own and figured out that i want the X2 ROM, as is...is that possible..reading the pages ofthe forum, lot of small things need to be installed even after a 6.5 update..so is there a way i can get the whole ROM, as is in the X2....???
once again, Thanx a ton!
There will be NO full X2 roms published until the X2 is released...anything on here...including the dump made by Gtrab are not complete as the dump was from a prototype device...
Regards,
WC
There is no full and final X2 on X1 Rom. The only X2 Rom available is Jerpelea's X2 Test rom, but as the name says it's still in test, and it drains your battery in a day.
Try UnOff X1.5 it has most of the X2 stuff on it and is wm6.5, and work quitte smooth.
Personally i like X-2-Touch, It has a stable manilla 2.1 interface and wm6.1 but with the x2 stuff included, works very fast.
Thanx Aerox912 and wild child....i also wanted to know of X1 and X2 are similar when it comes to hardware???
So, if in the near future i upgrade it to X2's OS, there wont be any hardware issue rite??
X2 isnt out yet???
the date was November 6, and a user has already put up a video of unboxing his new X2..why cant we ask him simply to upload the OS??
What say??
Has been delayed....my distributor usually gets them asap and they have been bumped back till beginning of 2010...yes they are similar in hardware....it was a prototype he got....not retail version....retail version would NOT delete all installation files after hard reset...counter productive...he did dump his os....but is not full dump...
Regards,
WC
circleofomega said:
Thanx Aerox912 and wild child....i also wanted to know of X1 and X2 are similar when it comes to hardware???
So, if in the near future i upgrade it to X2's OS, there wont be any hardware issue rite??
X2 isnt out yet???
the date was November 6, and a user has already put up a video of unboxing his new X2..why cant we ask him simply to upload the OS??
What say??
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also note that there will be changes in the rom of the x2 from what is in the x2s which were distributed...reason is that the x2 is in the surgery room at sony ericsson lol, from the xperiancers blog
"Hi All – Over the last couple of weeks there has been a few, OK more than a few rumours that the X2 is going to be delayed until January and I’m sure it will not come as a surprise when we say that these are well founded.
The software worked fine but when we started integrating it with some of the network specific apps it threw up a few issues which we’re working to fix.
It’s all minor tweaks really (extending the battery life and speeding up aspects of the software), but we want to be sure that when we ship this it is as good as it should be and that you don’t have to constantly upgrade the software as we iron out these wrinkles.
So… we’re launching first week of January. Really sorry if you were looking forward to getting hold of one before then but it will be worth it when we get there.
Thanks for your continued interest in the site.
Aaron"
i suspect this came directly from aaron duke who is the x2 brand manager
so, let's wait and see what is new in the weeks to come
spikegotti said:
2. I want an original OS upgrade from 6.1 to 6.5 (NOT BETA or cooked ROMs plz)
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there aren't any beta roms here anymore dude, ALL 6.5 roms you find here (meaning the recent ones) are completed builds, newer builds are just updates to the previous
there aren't anything known as and un-cooked rom as in not cooked, it must be cooked/compiled in order to be a rom, because the files and folders from microsoft must be compiled with OEM stuff and other goodies to make it a flashable ROM
if you mean you need something clean as if it came from SEUS, then try any two of my roms on my sig
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I don't mean to complicate this thread, but I would consider any and all 6.5.1 based ROMS beta considering MS hasn't official released it and there are absolutely no official devices running it. In short, the version of WM6.5 with the start button at the top is no longer a work in progress, but the version with the start button at the bottom for as much as we know is a work in progress, and thus a beta version.

There is way to install andriod without WM rom ?

Hi,
I would like to know if there is way to install just android without install Windows Mobile rom ?
I mean that the Android boot without using WM ...
At the moment no, I think we lack a bootloader to start booting the rom, also Android is not yet stable enough to use as a stand-alone OS for our phones, I'm certain it will all come together in time, much as the Familiar Linux Project did on the Ipaq series of PDA's.
Until then we have the best compromise, useable android, with the comfort of having WM still available for when we really need it.
Moved as not ROM Development....
take a look at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614275
to understand the state-of-art of flashing Kaiser to nand ....

Android onto WM?

As I have seen the topic "Android development for the HTC Touch Diamond2, AT&T Pure" I am asking and I want to be sure if existing WM is flash-able with Android OS ?
You have to find a dual booting ROM for it to work together.
And dont expect everything to work, with the latest build (2.2) of XDAndroid I cant use neither camera nor telephone functions and have to recharge every two hours...

Need help to decide about WM ROM (or android) version

Hi,
I want to install custom ROM to X1. It should be good, stable version because it's not mine and I can't play with it every day to fix or change something.
So, I would be thankful if somebody wants to share experiences and suggest me the best ROM for X1.
I would also like if you would tell me about your experience with Android on this device, which version is the best. what's working and what's not.
I already have some opinion based on what I read here, but would like to hear first hand experiences
thank you!!
I dont know for winmo,but in android jerrytan's roms are good,and also neofroyo.
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Use the non NAND versions. That means that WM will not be deleted and you can run android ROM from your SD card. And yes, Jerrytans ROM are one of the best, I am using them myself.
If you still want to delete WM completely then use any NAND ROM from the android thread.
Here are jerrytan´s ROM`s: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370882
Good luck!!!
JerryTan just released Sensedroid X, an android version.
You just keep Windows Mobile, and startup android by starting a program on your phone called Haret.exe
I tested Sensedroid x, and it is amazing!
Link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267166
Jurre
But I think that nand Android makes Xperia X1 similar to a NATIVE android phone and this is awesome!
For now xperia is a wm powered phone that is capable of running android.once nand is finished,it will be similar to a native android phone.xdandroid is very slow,because it has too high resolution that needs to be lowered to get better performance and obviously lack of graphics.when this is done,wich wont be anytime soon,i guarantee you will get a good performance,comparable to hero/tatoo.
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