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Hi,
I know that there are already a number of threads, but I was wondering if anyone knows if getting "full market" on the Gtab is really possible?
The reason for the question is that I've been working on this for awhile now, and I've tried every tweak that I've been able to find, and also some of my own, and:
1) I keep finding that I can't see some apps in market, and
2) The apps that I can see vs. not see seem to change, seemingly over time, or depending on tweaks, or sometimes randomly.
For example, earlier today, before began my latest round of tweaking, I had done the main market fix (market clear cache/force down, gsf clear data/force down, start market/get error/reboot), and with that, I could see Miren browser, but couldn't see SQL Editor, Adobe Air, Adobe Flash, or Xscope.
I then did a chance, similar to the Android ID changer posted in another thread, but I did it directly, by getting an AndroidID from a Droid, and then using sqlite3 to change the AndroidID on my Gtab. That didn't let me see more apps.
So, I changed the fingerprint in build.prop and did the market fix, and then I could see SQL Editor, but not Adobe Air/Flash, and Xscope.
Then, I set the time to 11:58PM, did the market fix, shutdown the Gtab, then waited.
When I powered the Gtab back on, after "midnight", I was really surprised that I could then see both Adobe Air and Adobe Flash. Still no Xscope, though.
Then, the latest step, I set the Gtab back to the correct time, and rebooted, and after that, I couldn't see Adobe Air and Adobe Flash, but now I can see Miren and Xscope.
It seems like chasing "full market" is really like "whack-a-mole", and so I'm starting to wonder if it's even possible to get there with the Gtab?
Sorry for going on, but this is really frustrating!!
Jim
Jim, I have been having some weird issues downloading with my Moto Droid for the last 2 days. I really think that Google is doing something with market. Oddly I seem to be having less problems with my GTab
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Jim, I have been having some weird issues downloading with my Moto Droid for the last 2 days. I really think that Google is doing something with market. Oddly I seem to be having less problems with my GTab
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Hi,
I'm aware of the network problems (retry popup, etc.), but I've been at this (trying to get a full, consistent market) for awhile. What I related in my earlier post was just what I tried today, but this has been almost since I got the Gtab, just after Thanksgiving.
Mostly, it doesn't bother me, but earlier this week, there was post from reelportal asking to test his new app, which needed Air, which kind of got me going on this again. He had posted the Air APK, but it was still kind of bugging me.
I was really surprised to see Air appear in Market today, but then was shot down when it disappeared later.
Feel like I'm "chasing a ghost" with this (="whack-a-mole" )!!
Jim
BTW. You mentioned Droid. One of my sons has a Droid, and that has been what I was using as my 'baseline', to check if I should or shouldn't see an app. He could see every one, all the time.
That keeps leading me to believe that it is possible, which is what drives me batty about this!
Jim
See? This is the weirdness of all of this. Just posted in response on another thread:
No guarantees, but I've been messing with market, and I just got tank hero. I used Titanium backup and cleared data for market then for googleservicesframework, then started market, and bam. It was there!
Yes, it's back ... but xscope and miren are gone...
Hi,
OK, this is at least a little consistent, and so far, repeatable.
If I use TB to clear market then gsf data, then start market, I get the agreement page, then I can see Air, Flash, and Tank hero, but no xscope, miren, or startup auditor.
If I then do the regular market fix and reboot, I get miren, xscope, and startup auditor, but no Flash, Air, or Tank Hero.
I don't see the logic, but seems to be consistent.
Jim
I was trying to help someone earlier with "earthNC". Wasn't in market so I did the Titanium Market fix and it appeared.
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I was trying to help someone earlier with "earthNC". Wasn't in market so I did the Titanium Market fix and it appeared.
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So are you seeing the same thing as I am? Doing data clear w TB, get Flash, Air, and Tank Hero, but not miren, xscope, or startup auditor, then do regular market fix get the reverse?
Does that make any sense?
Jim
i am new to nook color...so i did a lot of reading on this forum...i want to root nc 1.1..which is the best method for rooting nc 1.1
from whatever i have read there is two method one is auto nooter 3 and other is the pre rooted decadence rom..which one should i use..i m tilting more towards pre rooted decedence rom using monster pack .7 .
i also wanted to know if we can root 1.1 using monster pack .7 . it mentions that it is 1.1 compatible but it seems no one has tested it. i m noob to this forum and nc ..so i m sorry if i have offended some one with the above newbie questions..
I just went from ROM 1.1 stock to 1.1 rooted with Monster Pack .7. Works like a charm. Thanks IOMonster!
I just used it on a stock 1.1 Nook Color and it worked great, also installed Gapps just fine and logged into my google account fine. Everything is working on my Nook except the B&N 'Shop' from the main B&N home menu. It starts to load then goes black and nothing is there.
fpga_guy is also having the same problem...is the problem related to monster pack 7 or its a general problem???
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fpga_guy is also having the same problem...is the problem related to monster pack 7 or its a general problem???
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I'm not sure, lotta stuff to read on this forum. But I ended up just putting it back to a stock 1.0.1 Nook like it was when I bought it. So it's all back to normal now. It might have something to do with B&N registration, although mine was registered before I rooted and flashed, which is how it's supposed be.
Your registration with B&N may have gotten stale. You can post in the Monster Root Pack thread in devl forum and see what folks are saying.
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I just used it on a stock 1.1 Nook Color and it worked great, also installed Gapps just fine and logged into my google account fine. Everything is working on my Nook except the B&N 'Shop' from the main B&N home menu. It starts to load then goes black and nothing is there.
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I rooted with MRP, and also had the broken shop issue. As an experiment, last night I rerooted with autonooter - directly over the already done root, no format, no wipe. (I have a backup in case doing this is dumb, natch.)
Now the shop works.
However, the original MRP device supported the Nook standalone app and the autonooted device (this one, and one which was only autonooted, never MRP'ed) do not support the Nook standalone app.
I strongly prefer the real app. The night mode is actually black, not grey, it more consistently remembers where I left off reading, and deleting a book from the bloody library actually works in the real app. It does not work in the stock library app, and the library app frequently forgets where I was reading when I get back into it.
I'll probably restore from backup this evening - there's too much very good stuff in the real nook app to give up. It is very difficult to get the shop to let you search in that app, but recalibrating the touchscreen makes it more likely that you'll be able to. Since search on the device is so weak in the shop, I'm ready to give it up for the better night mode, the better remembering where I left off, and the vastly better file curation.
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I rooted with MRP, and also had the broken shop issue. As an experiment, last night I rerooted with autonooter - directly over the already done root, no format, no wipe. (I have a backup in case doing this is dumb, natch.)
Now the shop works.
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I used MRP because I couldn't get autonooter to work, and so I'm in the no-shop state. I can download free apps (angry birds, of course), although I haven't tried to buy any.
Also, gmail has trouble with my email; I get lots of instances when it goes back to the index after displaying a message for a little while, and for some messages this happens before displaying anything. Is this a FC?
Softkeys also seems to be in a somewhat confused state; I don't quite understand what it's trying to do (well, I know it's creating onscreen buttons or remapping vol+- to replace the hard buttons on most phones, but that's my limit). I often get a popup saying that it couldn't do the task as su; is there some softkeys or su doc I haven't found yet?
However, I'm confused. The autonooter image only contains /boot; where does everything else come from? Does it download everything else from the PC, and that's why you have to plug into a PC?
Hmm.. I don't have SDK/ADK installed (and so no adb), is this why autonooter failed for me?
Please bear with me, I'm a long-time command-line unix/linux user, new to android. I've been using the MRP SD card to install zips, so if there's a flashable zip that fixes this, or an image that I can raid (sudo mount -o loop ...), I'm all set. If it's an adb hack, I'm out of luck for a while.
OK, I'll stop typing now...
Thanks!
Dennis
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Softkeys also seems to be in a somewhat confused state; I don't quite understand what it's trying to do (well, I know it's creating onscreen buttons or remapping vol+- to replace the hard buttons on most phones, but that's my limit). I often get a popup saying that it couldn't do the task as su; is there some softkeys or su doc I haven't found yet?
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Softkeys is much better now; I like it a lot more. I managed to get it to pop up a root attempt and allowed it, so it works.
Still no joy on the shop front; the non-gmail email app might be better, at least for me, but I do wish that it had collapsible folders. My folder tree is > 20 years old and rather, umm, organic.
Cheers!
Dennis
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Still no joy on the shop front; the non-gmail email app might be better, at least for me...
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I realized last night that whenever I try to visit an https: website (gmail, google/contacts, www.401k.com) the browser FCs on me.
Oddly enough, accessing gmail works just fine, so security bits appear to be different and only one of them is broken.
Does this happen to others?
Dennis
Autonooter 3.0 is great. It produces a Nook Color with full B&N functionality (the stock reader, including magazines and read-to-me kids books, the in-store browsing) that you can also install apps from the Android Market (and Amazon app store) on.
For me, right now, this is "good enough." When B&N releases its update, I'm going to wait for a pre-rooted package here before upgrading.
The reason I probably won't do anything crazy (like go full CM7) is that I'll probably buy a purpose built Honeycomb tablet for that once the market matures and prices come down.
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I just used it on a stock 1.1 Nook Color and it worked great, also installed Gapps just fine and logged into my google account fine. Everything is working on my Nook except the B&N 'Shop' from the main B&N home menu. It starts to load then goes black and nothing is there.
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I was in the same state. Following a suggestion from another thread <http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005975>, I applied autonooter-3.0.0 to my MRP'd NC 1.1.0, and all is well! AFAICT, you can ignore the instructions for after the reboot, it didn't act like a fresh NC at all.
BTW, not only did the shop FC, the browser couldn't load any https: pages, either. Are you in this situation?
Good luck!
Dennis
Hello all,
i just purcased a nookcolor for my wife (& me of course. )
So before I root it, I want to know afew things. ( I am fimiliar with android, I have a incredible that I have modded )
1) when i root we she still be able to buy & downld stuff from the b&n store?
2)can clockwork recovery be loaded?
If so can I make a "nandroid" backup? As to say be able to restore. / brick proof?
3)can the root be removd if needed?
4) can any rom be loaded after root? Like 2.3, ? Redemtion rEVOolutin? Cynogen? 3.0( I this out. )
5)how about apps? Can any android apps be loaded? Or are there now "nook color" specific apps /roms I have to use?
That's about all I can think of, thank all who answer.
1) Yes, you can still download and use everything from the B&N store, whether you use the original stock nook app or the one downloaded from the market.
2) Yes, clockworkmod can be loaded.
3) Of course! Do a search. There is a way to go back to stock.
4) Only roms designed for use on the nook will really "work". CyanogenMod 7 just went into nightlies but it isn't a daily driver just yet. NookiFroyo (2.2 port) works fine and boots straight from the SD card. There are also Honeycomb ports but they are far from being daily drivers. There's also a way to dual boot the emmc so that you can have multiple ports (i.e stock eclair and cyanogen mod/whatever). Again, search search search and you'll find everything you need.
5) just about any android app can be loaded. i'm not aware of many that aren't working. Learn how to use softkeys.
Search google for NookDevs wiki. (i can't post links yet)
it has EVERYTHING you'll need.
Welcome to the community.
1. Yes, B&N store works fine rooted. Not sure about custom roms, I'm using rooted stock until CM7 is more stable.
2. Clockwork can be loaded. Also, there are flashable stock roms available over in the Dev forum. It's been said multiple times that the NC is pretty much unbrickable, it can always be recovered with an SD card, so don't worry too much about that.
3. Yes.
4. No. There are a couple of roms being worked on for the nook. Cyanogenmod 7 is doing nightly released right now. There is also a version of honeycomb and a version of froyo that quite a few people on this forum use. I understand CM7 and HC aren't entirely stable and bug free yet, but I don't use either myself, so I can't describe specific issues. If you use the search tool I'm sure you can find them.
5. Most android apps can be loaded. there are some that don't work on the nook color or won't show up in the market for some reason, but for the most part you shouldn't have any trouble. It does have the standard android market after rooting.
Thanks guys. Sinv,ce postinf if been on the wiki & nookdev.
So I'm learning....I'm so used to my old droid, jow my incredible. Not really diggin the whole bn ui......I like to have osmthing that nearly reembles those. (Shes quite familar with playin on the non activated droid mostly anry birds n ireader,
Wu I be able to set up a home screen with like beautiful idgwts n minimalistic text.
Ill find out the answer to both of those questions tomorrow whn I root. I jus got it for her today, so ill let it stay stock for 1 day. Plus I ont have a spare sd card.....
Posting on this nook is already provjng to be. Bit of apain...
Rerracting double post
you'll get the hang of it. I had trouble typing on it at first too, now it's nice and smooth.
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Wu I be able to set up a home screen with like beautiful idgwts n minimalistic text.
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Yes you will be able too. one of the first things you do is install a homescreen replacement (such as launcher pro, zeam, adw) then you can put the homescreen widgets and such on it
if your looking to keep the full functionality of the nook while still getting some of these extras I would suggest just rooting it and not installing any roms to it. if you do you only have the android nook app which isnt as fully functional as the one that was built into the nook color.
Welcome to the community!
I have been running honeycomb for about 2 weeks on my Nook Color. I originally put it on to try it but I stayed with it. It is about 80% there but I have found workarounds for the things that are missing and it runs much much better than I would have ever expected. After using it for a day, I realized that I just can't live without the new email app and widget. I also could never get used to softkeys. I think my fingers are just to pudgy. Honeycomb was designed for devices without buttons so it works better for me.
Something that I think you will enjoy if you are coming from an Incredible or other Android phone like I did is that the device checks the sd card for boot before the internal memory, meaning that you can leave your everyday ROM on the device while you test others. I recommend buying two sd cards for it. One for your regular data and files and another to hold a recovery image and ROMS.
Alright so I have a Nook color and desperatley would like to try the Android OS on it. But I have never really toyed around with it on anything before....but it really intrigues me.
What kernel works best?? I saw another thread about wi-fi issues is this prevelant??
Thanks so much!
Well, you are running Android -- that's what Barnes and Noble uses. The downside is that they've limited it, so you can't do things like get apps from the Android Market.
The easiest first step is to root your NC using the latest version of Autonooter (search the forum). Prior to doing that, you need to make sure your Nook Color is running the latest official update from B&N (check the B&N website under Nook Color/Support). Autonooter (with a big thanks to those who contribute to it) is a quick and simple way to get going.
That will give you full access to the version of Android on the Nook (2.1 if I recall), as well as the Market apps. Play with that for awhile, then start exploring the other Android versions -- which you can run off of a SD card as a separate OS to make sure they work for you (then flash to rom is you want to).
Right now I'd vote for CM7 with working Bluetooth as the most useful OS available on this forum. The latest version also fixes video issues. Another version of CM7 is Phiremod, nicely packaged with some additions (CM7 is still in development -- so Phiremod won't typically use the latest CM7 version, which is OK).
Most of all, learn to use the search function on this forum -- it will save you lots of time!
As far as performance...is the Nook comparable to many tablets?
I agree that autonooter is the best first step. Use a launcher to get a 'feel" for android and if you're happy don't go any further. If you feel you want the "full" experience, than I also agree that CM7 is the way to go. Also, installing CM7 is pretty easy if you follow the guild on the Nook Color wiki via http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices/nook-color
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As far as performance...is the Nook comparable to many tablets?
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This isn't an easy question to answer because it's about half the performance of the Xoom and new Galaxy Tabs that are coming out, but there is nothing that pushes the hardware yet. For an early adopter of android tablets, I think the nook is perfect because it preforms great and the price tag cannot be beat!
Compared to other non-official tablets, it out preforms them in some ways, specifically the screen. THe nook uses the best (I think?) type of touch screen and offers a great viewing angle.
Autonooter 3 -- something is definitely wrong.
Used auto-nooter 3 on our 1.1 NC. Computer runs slackware. md5sum was correct. Burned it to a Patriot class 10 8GB microSD card. Inserted the card, plugged in the USB. After the android showed up NOTHING happened as described in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942424.
There was no "sign in" at the Android welcome screen to skip.
No "location services"
Wandered around logging into youtube and gmail. Youtube has both a user name and a user gmail account. Tried both.
Gmail account(s) refused to sync.
Market opened, and we attempted to download several free apps --
Got some sort of 'downloading' message, but nothing ever did. Progress meter, if that's what it was, showed no movement at all.
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Restored it and tried again. Twice. Slightly different results, but NEVER able to download from the Market.
It's obvious that SOMETHING is wrong, I just have no idea what it might be.
I'm ready, willing and able to follow instructions, but when what I see bears no relationship to the instructions given I have problems.
I hope it's obvious to somebody what I'm doing wrong, because I'm stumped.
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Used auto-nooter 3 on our 1.1 NC.
I hope it's obvious to somebody what I'm doing wrong, because I'm stumped.
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I used Autonooter 3.0 and it worked for me. Check your wifi. If it shows connecting/disconnecting, it's a wifi problem - especially if the download progessing bar is not moving. See my note in wifi http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11458921&postcount=1
Hi all,
My wife just got a Nook Color for Christmas and I'm itching to root it. Both of our OG evos are rooted and I'm fairly competent with customizing the ever living crap out of them (I'm running MIUI and love it).
I'm looking for suggestions for a cool but most importantly STABLE setup for her nook color. I see there aren't as many options as the Evo, and the rooting process seems a bit more involved, but I'm sure I can figure that part out.
I already ran the 1.41 update and read all of the basic steps for root. She doesn't want to lose the B&N functionality (not sure why), so is my best bet just to root it with a bootable SD without loading CWM recovery? Using manualnooter that would just leave her with the B&N functions but would also install an alternate launcher and allow her to install android market and 3rd party apps, correct?
I've done quite a bit of reading up but I just want to get some opinions...she's afraid I'm going to "mess it up" like I've done to my evo quite a few times, but its never been anything a clean wipe can't fix so I don't see the issue haha.
Thanks everyone!
Your best bet is CM7.1 on a SD card. Just make sure that's an SanDisk Class 4 card, otherwise the performance will be quite miserable. Just grep the CM7.1 zip, the latest gapps-gb zip and greens sd installer and do it. You will be done in 15 min and you will never go back. I got my NC also for x-mas and used CM7.1 on a SD card for 2 days before I installed it on the internal memory (emmc).
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[...] I already ran the 1.41 update and read all of the basic steps for root. She doesn't want to lose the B&N functionality (not sure why), so is my best bet just to root it with a bootable SD without loading CWM recovery?
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I've rooted 1.4.1 on my Nook Color and blocked further updates. It's provides what I refer to as the "B&N Walled Garden (with a gate)". It's straight B&N in terms of functionality, and all the B&N functions (subscriptions, Conde Nast mags and enhanced books,free read-in-store) work fine. If she intends to use any of the B&N content, it's a nice experience. If she doesn't, then, frankly, you can do a lot more a lot more easily with Cyanogenmod loaded on it.
Using manualnooter that would just leave her with the B&N functions but would also install an alternate launcher and allow her to install android market and 3rd party apps, correct?
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If you root the B&N software, yes.
Alternately, you could load Cyanogenmod either internally on eMMC (replacing B&N), or externally, in a dual-boot SD configuration, which would let you leave the BN setup stock or rooted. The two remain completely separate from each other.
I've done quite a bit of reading up but I just want to get some opinions...she's afraid I'm going to "mess it up" like I've done to my evo quite a few times, but its never been anything a clean wipe can't fix so I don't see the issue haha.
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The NC is pretty bullet-proof. If you decide to root B&N firmware, be sure to block automatic OTA updates, or it will self-destruct when they push an update, and it will be your fault, buster!
I've rooted my wife's new Nook Tablet, and she's quite enamored with it. Adding functionality from the Market has been a big plus, and I've got her music synchronized with our Google TV setup as well.
Thanks both of you. I went the route of booting CM7 from the SD card and it was actually really easy and runs pretty flawlessly. Unfortunately my wife is a pain and doesn't seem to appreciate how much better it is so she just sticks with the stock stuff 99% of the time haha. I might have to get my own now just out of principle!
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You can always add a few Market apps to her mostly-stock setup with the Nook Color App Manager. I used it to add a few apps to my wife's rooted Nook Tablet. If I hadn't told her, she'd have thought those were stock apps.
But yeah, definitely get your own!
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I've rooted 1.4.1 on my Nook Color and blocked further updates.
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How did you block updates? I've seen several mentions about doing this but nothing definitive. Thanks!
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How did you block updates? I've seen several mentions about doing this but nothing definitive. Thanks!
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I edited devicemanager.db using SQLite. Open devicemanager.db and change registry->com.bn.device.fota.mode from "auto" to "manual".
That's all I've done, and no further OTA updates. There are more involved methods, but this seems to work.