I am disconnecting my Droid 2 where I use wifi tether because i go the xoom. Anyone know if its possible yet to do the same thing with the xoom?
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i am curious about the LTE upgrade? you think they will care when doing the upgrade if the phone is rooted. Will there be a way to reverse the rooting?
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If I am understanding you correctly, you are wanting to use the Xoom on wifi when it's available and not have any chances of the Xoom surfing the net on 3G incurring mb's towards your 1 Gig or whatever plan you elected when buying ?
I simply turned off the data under Settings, "Wireless & Networks" -> "Mobile networks" -> "Data enabled" is then unchecked to turn off. This should accomplish what I think it is you are asking if possible..
Can anyone tell me how to keep track of Verizon's running tally of the MB's used to date in billing cycle ? I am scared to death to run into overage of my 1 GIG monthly plan. Verizon rep told me it is sinfully expensive per mb if you do..
On the Verizon setup page, it is $20/GB overage on the 1GB plan, and $10/GB overage on the 3GB and up plans.
Verizon's lower end data plans aren't too bad, but their 10GB for $80 is pretty insanely expensive.
I think you guys are misunderstood what the OP is asking about, I think he asks if it's possible for the xoom to have a native wifi tether that enables it to become a WiFi hotspot just like the option we have on Froyo, I'd like to know that too.
Download the app my verizon for tablets it gives u the option to check ur data usage even with a widget
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If I am understanding you correctly, you are wanting to use the Xoom on wifi when it's available and not have any chances of the Xoom surfing the net on 3G incurring mb's towards your 1 Gig or whatever plan you elected when buying ?
I simply turned off the data under Settings, "Wireless & Networks" -> "Mobile networks" -> "Data enabled" is then unchecked to turn off. This should accomplish what I think it is you are asking if possible..
Can anyone tell me how to keep track of Verizon's running tally of the MB's used to date in billing cycle ? I am scared to death to run into overage of my 1 GIG monthly plan. Verizon rep told me it is sinfully expensive per mb if you do..
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The setting for it is in the same place as on froyo, although I haven't activated service through verizon to see if it can become a hotspot (tethered to my nexus s). The option is there though so if anyone that has a data plan can try then we can confirm.
i was talking about using this
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
I have always been able house this on my droid 2 but was wondering if its going to be possible with a rooted xoom. Does anyone know?
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i was talking about using this
I have always been able house this on my droid 2 but was wondering if its going to be possible with a rooted xoom. Does anyone know?
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I tested it last night it works.
You think they are going to be able to tell that we rooted it during the lte upgrade?
Damned forum limitations, I just tested further and WiFi tether errors out on a bunch of important things...
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Not sure they'd even check, seems obtrusive and unethical. I'll be encrypting my Xoom before I send it in.
We are going to see all of the services we enjoy on say, The HTC Incredible come to the Xoom in a Custom Rom.
Many root apps you can run now.
The challenge with Tethering is that it requires hooks in the Kernel that might not be in place, or if they are, might be different then what was in Android 2.2 or 2.3 stock ROMS.
The Xoom is the first device to release with Honeycomb, so we are going to have to hold tight, and wait for someone to update things like WiFi tethering Kernels and the app to match Honeycomb,
No need for wifi tether on the Xoom. Honeycomb comes with mobile hotspot built in and verizon does not charge extra to use hotspot on tablets. The usage just comes out of your monthly plan.
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Download the app my verizon for tablets it gives u the option to check ur data usage even with a widget
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Ok, but how do we register for the account. I tried and it says it will send a text with a temporary passcode. This thing doesn't receive texts, right?
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Ok, but how do we register for the account. I tried and it says it will send a text with a temporary passcode. This thing doesn't receive texts, right?
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right, i had a vz customer rep activate my account on her phone, then resent the text then i entered it, then i set a password, then she reactivated my xoom on my line... worked relatively painlessly. just tell them thats what you need to do.
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right, i had a vz customer rep activate my account on her phone, then resent the text then i entered it, then i set a password, then she reactivated my xoom on my line... worked relatively painlessly. just tell them thats what you need to do.
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Good idea. I'll try that. Why the heck didn't they have text support on these.
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Good idea. I'll try that. Why the heck didn't they have text support on these.
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they don't? I don't have mine yet, but ordered online and a texting plan was being offered. I need to get my xoom already, I'm in iraq and my wife is sending it monday going to be at least a week.
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Ok, so I called the AT&T dorks at their "Business Center" and this question:
"Can I use the WiFi from my own personal wireless router on my phone? If I do, do I have to pay for it? I ask because there is no reason that I should be paying for internet 2x."
The response:
"If you access the internet on your phone regardless if it is WiFi or if it is over the AT&T network, you will be charged for it if you do not have a Data Plan."
Is this correct? I mean, if I turn off the "phone" on my phone, will it still charge me? Can anyone tell me if there is a way to get around this garbage? I would like to use the WiFi on my phone, but I don't really want to pay the 50 cents a Kb or whatever for it. Thanks for the help!
They do rip u off ALLL the time, that the same question I thought of when I was getting my tilt. but tell u what, start using UR phones wifi and if they charge u for data , U can sue them for extortion. Call them now and tell them to disable data connection and start using ur WIFI.
such a RIP OFF att is sometimes.
Yea, using Wifi has nothing to do with ATT. If you connect to your router, and you don't see the little E or G or 3G icons, then your NOT using any data from ATT. - they can see your data usage as it is sent from your router to your phone.
Your fine.
^ yep, you will NOT incur any fees/charges from AT&T for using wi-fi.
Oh boy if they had told me that I think I would have been crying with laughter.. Yeah man you can take your sim card out and wifi... Stupid at&t, you should call them back and say something about that.
AT&T, like any other large corporation, does have its share of idiots working there. You managed to talk to one...lol
Great
Thanks for the help, guys, I thought I was just going to get ripped off. Appreciate it greatly!
There is no way for them to tell if you're online on your phone if you're not connecting through MediaNet. Trust me, I bought a wireless router a couple years ago just so I could browse the net on my phone. They can't tell. Just go into Settings, Connections tab, Connections, Advanced tab, Select Networks, Adjust both dialog boxes to anything but MediaNet. That fixes that. I called them and asked the same question just like the next man a few years ago & got the same answer. It all depends on who you talk to. If you can get someone on the phone that has a similar device that you do, they'll know better. Trust me, been surfing wirelessly for years now with absolutely no fluctuation. If I'm not connecting through thier servers, then how would they know?
They will charge you, dont listen to the people that dont know, they just THINK that they cant charge you, but they have not talked to any reps like you and I. And I did get a $119 for using my wifi, and when I called I was told that wifi is not free if I dont have a pda package. Also I have a No Data installed on my phone to ensure I do not use up any data services except for wifi.
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They will charge you, dont listen to the people that dont know, they just THINK that they cant charge you, but they have not talked to any reps like you and I. And I did get a $119 for using my wifi, and when I called I was told that wifi is not free if I dont have a pda package. Also I have a No Data installed on my phone to ensure I do not use up any data services except for wifi.
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If that is the case and you are 100% sure that you werent streaming data via edge/3G, take it to court. They WILL loose. Period.
You do NOT have to have a Sim card in the phone to use the WiFi via a Wireless Router. Your device will get online and surf without it ( the sim ). If they charged you for using your OWN Wifi and you let them charge you, then the yolk is on you.
For all of the other posters, I will tell you a Simple way to make sure you dont dial out and accidentally catch onto a 3G / Edge network.
Just DELETE The damn Medianet / MyISP settings inside of network connections. Make sure it is 100% empty and void of any and all other connection types. Also, Make sure you take your phone OFF of THEIR proxy. Doing this will 100% prevent them from even knowing that you are using the phone at all with data.... as this is their only means of tracking the data usage on the phone.... ( Research the word Proxy and you will be all the more wiser )
Good luck and I hope I have helped some of you!
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My father was given my old hermes when I got the kaiser. He is too cheap to buy a data plan however has wifi in his house as well as his office ( Both of which I set up ) and has absolutely no problems with ATT. They have NO IDEA he is using the phone with his own Wifi.
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They will charge you, dont listen to the people that dont know, they just THINK that they cant charge you, but they have not talked to any reps like you and I. And I did get a $119 for using my wifi, and when I called I was told that wifi is not free if I dont have a pda package. Also I have a No Data installed on my phone to ensure I do not use up any data services except for wifi.
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There is absolutely no reason why they would have charged you if you were actually using just wi-fi. I have no data package and I only use wi-fi and I have never been charged for it. I havent even deleted the media-net connection or 3G connection...just be smart and pay attention to your title bar and it will tell you where your internets coming from...Hope this helps,
-John
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There is absolutely no reason why they would have charged you if you were actually using just wi-fi. I have no data package and I only use wi-fi and I have never been charged for it. I havent even deleted the media-net connection or 3G connection...just be smart and pay attention to your title bar and it will tell you where your internets coming from...Hope this helps,
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Exactly. He more than likely was streaming via Edge and didnt know it.
Recently, my internet at home has went down. So I decided to use the Wi-Fi Router app that was cooked into the ROM that I'm using to connect my laptop to the internet through my phone (i guess this is called tethering?). I have AT&T service on my phone with the "PDA Personal Max Unlimited Messaging". My question is: would I receive additional charges for using my phone to connect my laptop to the internet under this plan? Or am I able to do this "tethering" for free under this plan?
I am on U.S. AT&T and just so you know, yes you can, but it is explicitly forbidden under any non-tethering plan. If they discover you are doing this (usually by downloading too much data like video streaming) then they may charge you a LOT of money because they will void your unlimited plan and potentially charge you a TON of money by requiring that you pay by the KB. I have heard that 5GB is the magic amount, but I have no idea how much it actually takes for them to notice.
So yes, you can, but you may not want to. Read your Terms of Service very carefully, and perhaps ask at a local AT&T store (although don't let them know you are doing it now).
so if i used it for just general browsing then i should be fine?
can i ask which rom ur using? i've tried installing this wifi router program on gtrab's rom and can't get it to work at all. it never turns on my wifi and i can't get it to work..
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so if i used it for just general browsing then i should be fine?
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I can make no promises... Just passing on info I got. your Terms of Service will explain better.
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can i ask which rom ur using? i've tried installing this wifi router program on gtrab's rom and can't get it to work at all. it never turns on my wifi and i can't get it to work..
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im using EnergyROM Photon. Very good ROM in my opinion. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043
Hi, I'm using AOIP 8/10/13 ROM on my Galaxy Exhibit T679 phone and Yesterday when I was using my laptop using my phone as WiFi hotspot, all of a sudden, T-mobile warning sign came up on a browser window and since then, any web page i'm try to connect ends up a T-mobile warning sign saying you have to buy a hotspot plan. Wifi Tethering has been working with no problem on this ROM till today, so I was wondering what happened. Can anybody give me any advice? I thought if I root my phone and use these custom rom, Wifi tethering would work even without having T-mobile hotspot plan or whatever. BTW, I've been using this ROMs build-in tethering feature and I didn't use any tethering app like FOX-Fi etc...Any help would be appreciated.
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Hi, I'm using AOIP 8/10/13 ROM on my Galaxy Exhibit T679 phone and Yesterday when I was using my laptop using my phone as WiFi hotspot, all of a sudden, T-mobile warning sign came up on a browser window and since then, any web page i'm try to connect ends up a T-mobile warning sign saying you have to buy a hotspot plan. Wifi Tethering has been working with no problem on this ROM till today, so I was wondering what happened. Can anybody give me any advice? I thought if I root my phone and use these custom rom, Wifi tethering would work even without having T-mobile hotspot plan or whatever. BTW, I've been using this ROMs build-in tethering feature and I didn't use any tethering app like FOX-Fi etc...Any help would be appreciated.
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Just curious do you have an unlimited data plan.
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Just curious do you have an unlimited data plan.
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it's a so called "Walmart Plan" which includes: 5GB data, 100 min talk time and unlimited text.
When I checked the usage of my data, it was like 300 MB, so I still have a lot of data left.
betek2k said:
it's a so called "Walmart Plan" which includes: 5GB data, 100 min talk time and unlimited text.
When I checked the usage of my data, it was like 300 MB, so I still have a lot of data left.
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Hmmm idk what to tell you I have a unlimited plan and never had a pronlem with wifi tether. Maybe try wiping data and cache .
What browser are you using? I ran in to this before with same wall Mart plan. I found online about changing the user agent in the browser can get you around the T-Mobile page. I was using internet explorer. Go to developer options and then go change user agent to opera. See how that works.
If all else fails, its only 15 bucks more for the tethering with Tmobile.
Opened sqlite editor and looked for the settings.db file for WiFi tether on T-Mobile and its no longer there. Was it intentionally hidden to prevent changing the files? Anyone know how to expose the files if they are there? 7gb isn't enough to tether. Thanks.
gg
i guess you dont know whats going down.. two weeks ago, tmobile started a crackdown on people that "steal" the data services, for tethering their home internet. if you arent powering your home internet with it, then 7gb is plenty. and dont say that you dont "steal" anything, as it is considered theft. that said, im not innocent myself. but it is what it is.
So, the best way to keep the ability to tether with T-Mobile (5gig pre-paid here) is to not upgrade to Marshmallow ?
If so, I am ok with that. I rarely tether anyway, but when I need to I need to.
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So, the best way to keep the ability to tether with T-Mobile (5gig pre-paid here) is to not upgrade to Marshmallow ?
If so, I am ok with that. I rarely tether anyway, but when I need to I need to.
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i tether all the time, but the 7gb is more than enough for me now, as i dont have a home computer. you could try not upgrading, but they can still tell nowaday if you are or not. last year they caugt me, and i wasnt even tethering much. since then, every time they caught me tethering illegally, every time i went online with the n6 i had to contact tmobile because all my data would be stopped.
several weeks ago, tmobile and their leader made a statement about catching everyone that powers their home internet via tethering illegally.
We are on different plans, I think. I get 5gigs of data, 100 minutes of voice, unlimited texting for $30/month. They used to call this the "Wal-Mart" plan. It is prepaid and I don't think it allows any tethering at all, which is kind of stupid of T-Mobile since no one could provide home internet tethering out of only 5 gigs of data. I had to edit an sql database on my Nexus5 under KitKat to enable tethering, and that has persisted thru all the Lollipop updates so far.
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I found this yesterday that worked for me.
https://youtu.be/wUGCZ79zNXM
If your rooted then theres various ways to bypass and if used together chances are good you won't have to pay 2x for data: modifying your apn to allow dun type, adding the line: net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
to your build.prop and finally using adb from a PC (u can try this even if not rooted) type the following from cmd or powershell: "adb shell" followed by "settings put global tether_dun_required 0" without the " "s and restart your phone n hopefully that should do the trick.
If still throttled by TMo go into Magisk and install tethering_enabler or TTL tethering modules. These modules weren't specifically made for the 6T but they should still be effective. If still unsuccessful then modifying the TTL from the device your trying to tether to will help hide the source of data aim for TTL of 65 to confuse tmo.
If your not rooted then use PDANet USB tether to a PC and hide tether options then create a hotspot from the PC your USB tethered to or use the WiFi Sharing option in PDANet PC Menu. At least thats what works the best for me and I've tried many many things... One other possibility if your on stock no root is to add a new apn with all the same info as normal fast.tmobile.net lte apn only enable MVNO type to GIO for apn type leave it blank and save it. This should hide the default TMobile apn (and make the editor think your using a 3rd party like Mint) now go back and edit the new apn and under apn type put: dun,default,mms,supl try and save it. It should error n say dun not supported... Press Home and force close settings-reboot phone. The dun sometimes will stick if this method isn't patched yet I'm sure it will be soon.
Your final options are to use an app from playstore like VPN Hotspot or VPN Tether they might slow your speed a bit but they should tunnel all your data thru a VPN confusing TMo as to the origin of data. Probably the best and easiest way is by using a custom ROM as most haven't been tainted by Google's latest CarrierConfigManager commits or carrier apn restrictions. If anyone knows how to reverse these commits easily or any other methods not listed please let me know.
I'm currently looking for a clean TMo only dun enabled apns-config.xml so I can overwrite the default n modify the build.prop for a quick fix on any new ROM or update...
As you can probably tell being throttled or having to pay 2x for the same data is a pet peeve of mine and I've spent some time researching the topic. I'd love to hear what ended up working for you or if anyone knows a solid method I missed. Or has a recommendation for a good ROM with unlimited hotspot features built in for the 6t let me know. If any of these Bypasses helped you hit the thumbs up so I don't feel like I wasted hours of my life making this guide:laugh:
It uses NetShare app which works very well.
I have grandfathered unlimited data plan from tmo. No cap, no throttle, no video compression of any kinds.
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It uses NetShare app which works very well.
I have grandfathered unlimited data plan from tmo. No cap, no throttle, no video compression of any kinds.
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Right on what's the no cap no throttle unlimited run you a mo? I'm paying $25 for a one business plan it's unlimited but after 60gb they can slow u down and after 10gb of hotspot they throttle you to 200kbs lol but hey for $45 a mo they hooked me up with Netflix n my 6T lol still saving $15 from my old MetroPCs unlimited. But with the rooted bypass installed n the signal boosting hack I figured out I was at 430gb data and 217gb tether-hotspot last mo
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Right on what's the no cap no throttle unlimited run you a mo? I'm paying $25 for a one business plan it's unlimited but after 60gb they can slow u down and after 10gb of hotspot they throttle you to 200kbs lol but hey for $45 a mo they hooked me up with Netflix n my 6T lol still saving $15 from my old MetroPCs unlimited. But with the rooted bypass installed n the signal boosting hack I figured out I was at 430gb data and 217gb tether-hotspot last mo
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It used to be call Android Web Data back in HTC G1, MyTouch 3G days.
Now, they call it Unlimited Nationwide 4G
$20.00/mo
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Data Service
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Adds Unlimited Nationwide 4G data on T-Mobile's network. Includes up to 5 GB of Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (SMH) service.
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Adding the build prop line and adb shell command didn't work for me. I'm not sure how to change the apn setting you mentioned. I going to try wifi tether out. Used to work back in the day. I'd love to find a way to get around the throttle limit.
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It uses NetShare app which works very well.
I have grandfathered unlimited data plan from tmo. No cap, no throttle, no video compression of any kinds.
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I actually have the same plan. Didn't know it was discontinued until today for new signups. Kinda a bummer but I'll have to keep it in mind that I may not be able to get it back so easily. With that said they do sometimes send me the notification about the 50GB deprioritization/throttle but in my area I rarely ever see any kind of actual hit.
I thought you had to fix apn.xml
I can't figure out why but both my 1+3 and 1+6T have no limits on bandwidth out of the box. I can tether full speed and watch video with any resolution. I tried this unrooted, rooted, factory reset, even T-Mobile ROM. It was not like this a few months ago.
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Right on what's the no cap no throttle unlimited run you a mo? I'm paying $25 for a one business plan it's unlimited but after 60gb they can slow u down and after 10gb of hotspot they throttle you to 200kbs lol but hey for $45 a mo they hooked me up with Netflix n my 6T lol still saving $15 from my old MetroPCs unlimited. But with the rooted bypass installed n the signal boosting hack I figured out I was at 430gb data and 217gb tether-hotspot last mo
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Signal boosting hack? You have peak my interest, where can I find more information? Nevermind I found it here, but thank you for letting me know.
I tried...
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I thought you had to fix apn.xml
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I tried this but it's become more than a quick xml mod as Google's forced various carrier check calls into their OS and it seems most aosp brands have incorporatated these checks blindly into their ROMs as well. If anyone's able to get a rom clean of carrier checks or knows of a kernel that will bypass these and willl keep a steady ttl of 64 plz post details. Otherwise the only success I had outside of pdanet tethering was to root and force a ttl with an app like ttl master yota 4.0 and running ttlpatch on your PC (Google those names for downloads) your kernel needs to accept iptables old versions if ne1 has a more upto date ttl modifying app that supports newer iptable changes (off the top of my head I forget what they are plz post) If I get around to it I'll try n write up a lil magisk module or app for easier forced ttl on Android 9+ ROMs but this or a faux VPN would be easiest way around any restrictions put on by carriers... Hope this helps a lil
I hook to PC with the USB tether and mods I tried to make run the hotspot off PC and it works i get 20-30mbs with data so hotspot I believe is the same I never had issues I'll start testing more if anyway I can help I will
most changes I make with a file manager resets every reboot so I used terminal to change everything so it doesn't revert T-Mobiles paid hotspot gets 5-15mbs on 6t with hotspot paid for I have 7pro I use to try this with so I know speed I need
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It uses NetShare app which works very well.
I have grandfathered unlimited data plan from tmo. No cap, no throttle, no video compression of any kinds.
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You are aware that after 50gb you get reprioritized right? Even grandfathered plans get this, you might live on an area that is not too congested but once there is more people on T-Mobile on your area and you go over the 50gb you'll notice it.
they say that but I've used 100gb and had no issues I have the international one plan. but you're right on most people I have 8-9 lines digits is 9th don't count. the offline sim apn database pro app if you make a system app you can access the dun only apn they block.in xml they had hide apn enabled I changed that also.any other ideas if you need a crash test dummy I'm a good one lol
found the the file you was talking about and also I remember the carrier name on lock screen has to go also for you to fully unlock tether with pcweb apn
So far for the last few days I've been getting use of my hotspot without the data being reflected on the TMobile website as hotspot data. All data I use reflects as regular unlimited data. The issue I've run across so far is when traveling, it can revert back to original settings when changing towers, but only sometimes. At home on the same tower, no issues so far.
I did a couple of things to get unlimited hotspot. First I downloaded TTL Editor and set value on all interfaces to 65. Then I added a new APN with the settings in the screenshot. As soon as I saved it, all the regular TMobile APN's disappeared and only the one I added stayed. I have downloaded about 5gb of data through hotspot and so far no hotspot data showing up.
I have a TMobile OnePlus 6t on the TMobile network, converted to international. I hope this works for you. Please don't forget, changing towers SOMETIMES reverts back to old APN. I got back by rebooting and the APN I created showed up again. Also I don't know if everything I did is needed, I stopped when I realized hotspot data was being counted as regular data.
As far as speeds go, I get about 40 Mbs vs the 50-60 I normally get.
You must be rooted to do this.
I thought this thread was dead glad we are still working on this the database global tether_offload_disabled0 needs to be there I'm just trying to help and apn fast you have caps think that matters also maybe wrong there's a little more to do I think https://source.android.com/devices/tech/connect/tethering-offload
Using my mobile hotspot, so far I have binge watched on Hulu, and downloaded a bunch of things on various devices just to make sure I'm not missing something. So far, 4 days now, I have no hit to my mobile hotspot. The Caps was a typo, but since it's working, I left it. I don't know, all I can say is try it. I don't have any tethering mods, only the Magisk modules listed.
I'm guessing that something about the way the APN is entered causes all the hidden TMobile APN stuff to be muted. All the TMobile APN's disappear when this one is active.
Okay, out in town today and this APN method doesn't work in town. I had to revert to T-Mobile default to get reliable data. It only works great when I'm at home. I am rural and TMobile and AT&T share a tower here, maybe that has something to do with why it works at home, but not in town. So this might work for some people, but definitely not all.