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[Q] Need help using an S-OFF phone

Hi,
I've just unlock my phone using an xtc-clip.
It's now S-OFF, but nothing is different.
I don't know how to flash a custom recovery or a custom rom and rommanager doesn't work with temp-root.
Can someone help me to begin using my brand new S-OFF phone ?
Thanks a lot.

well to get any help i guess is to wait till the expert dev's create a way to make S-Off for the people who have S-ON and theres no builds or kernels or anything yet to be released so all i gotta say is to wait.

It appears at the moment the primary focus is getting root for S-on so there is not much else for now. Hopefully we'll get some CM7 goodness going quickly after breaking this thing
In the meantime, you can root your device and gain access to apps requiring root like wifi tether, adfree, shootme, etc.

blahblah13233 said:
well to get any help i guess is to wait till the expert dev's create a way to make S-Off for the people who have S-ON and theres no builds or kernels or anything yet to be released so all i gotta say is to wait.
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I think you're wrong because there is already some custom firmwares available and clockwork recovery is available too.
All i needis some help to flash them.
nimdae said:
In the meantime, you can root your device and gain access to apps requiring root like wifi tether, adfree, shootme, etc.
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Ok but we can already do that even if our phone is S-ON.
What are the advantages to have S-OFF phone if only this we can do can be already done without S-OFF ?

max-k said:
I think you're wrong because there is already some custom firmwares available and clockwork recovery is available too.
All i needis some help to flash them.
Ok but we can already do that even if our phone is S-ON.
What are the advantages to have S-OFF phone if only this we can do can be already done without S-OFF ?
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Temproot is not Perma Root. The two of that is different from each other. Temproot will be gone as soon as you reboot your phone.

Also, not all apps requiring root work with that hack. For example, wifi tether completely fails. I suspect this might also be in part because of the kernel, though.

First u need is root. Use the superoneclickroot (psneuter), then clockworkmod recovery, a custom Firmware andere at least the newest Radio.. finished xD
shared on the go

he is not asking what u need but how to flash different stuff
well for the clockworkmod:
get temp root: see first post of this
than do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046759
and furthermore:
POSTED IN THE WRONG SECTION
and
USE THE FREAKING SEARCH
u only need to look over the current posts in this forum and u read for a little longer than 5 minutes you should have known what to do.
Currently the flashing and roms are in its early stages. no fool-proof noob safe easy to flash crap around here: you must know a little of the android system and have some balls. Just do it: bricking your phone is quite hard these days...
Though i managed it olmost the past few weeks with starting to root it haha
Greets timbo007up

[Q] Cannot figure out how to root phone AAAARRRGGG!

OK. I started out this adventure to root my phone because I want to use it as a wifi hotspot for my Ipad and not pay AT&T $50/month for that "privelage." I can't figure it out!!!
Phone Info. - Samsung Captivate with Froyo kb2 build. It has the 2.1 adroid when I got it then I updated to 2.2 through the Keis program when it was available.
Before anyone starts with "read and search" lecture, I'll tell you that I've been on this site for a combined 9 hours reading and searching and nothing seems to work. I've tried one-click root programs, I've installed a rooted version of my stock ROM, Ive downloaded more apps, files, or software programs than I can remember. I know how to get the phone into download mode and I know how to boot into recovery mode, but nothing works. Everything seems to come back to the 3e Recovery I have because when I think I am almost there, I get a failed signature error.
I tried the 3e Recovery Mod and that didn't seem to do anything. Is anyone out there willing to help me through this? I am not a programmer, and I don't have any android experience whatsoever, but I can follow direction and am willing to learn. Everytime I find a new thread I seem to get more confused because I'm unclear on the jargon being used, or the thread is on a different ROM or phone so I don't know if it will work. I know "brick" is a bad thing so I don't want to do that.
I any of the experts had my phone what would you do? Do you need more information from me? Also, once I get this figured out, I'de love some recomendation on a better, faster ROM to install.
ANY HELP WOLD BE GREATLY APPRICIATED. Sorry for the frustration.

When I was on the Official Froyo 2.2 the first thing I used to successfully get root was this... View attachment SuperOneClickv1.6.5-ShortFuse.zip
This version was the only one at the time that would work. Extract it and run the SuperOneClick application. Be sure to have the usb debugging on.-- Menu /Settings /Applications /Development /then check the USB debugging.

Hmmmm.....very odd. Froyo is super easy.
Do you have Super User showing up in the apps drawer?
AND DON'T USE KIES ANY MORE FOR UPDATING !! YOU CAN BE IN FOR NASTY SURPRISES.

Been there. I'll try it again, but I think it still can't get around the 3e verification stuff. I'll let you know.

No SuperUser as of yet. I guess that is the point. Once I get rooted, I should get SuperUser status.

DaytonGuy said:
Been there. I'll try it again, but I think it still can't get around the 3e verification stuff. I'll let you know.
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That requires a custom kernel
*Get Chance and Luck*

DaytonGuy said:
No SuperUser as of yet. I guess that is the point. Once I get rooted, I should get SuperUser status.
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After u try the SuperOneClick from my previous post, reboot ur phone and then see what u have.

After nearly 9 hours of trying...I have cracked this thing. Turn out there were two threads about the 3e recovery mod. I tried the manual thread with no success. I just found this one that has a one click script to do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833423
Once I did that, I used Captivate One Click Root and presto....I now have SuperUser permissions. Sweet.
Thanks to everyone that responded to my questions. I'm sure I'll have more about ROMs and such.

^ Good deal. Glad u got it.

I figured I would be back.
Anyone have a link to a clear explaination on how to CID unlock the Captivate? A video would be fantastic, but I know how that goes. Also, is there a way to tell if it is unlocked or not?
Thanks

DaytonGuy said:
I figured I would be back.
Anyone have a link to a clear explaination on how to CID unlock the Captivate? A video would be fantastic, but I know how that goes. Also, is there a way to tell if it is unlocked or not?
Thanks
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Maybe this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872455
If you want to go with this - BACK UP YOUR nv_data.bin TO YOUR COMPUTER as soon as you can. DON'T LEAVE IT ONLY ON THE PHONE !!!!
Or have you heard of Samsung Tool v10.7...... here: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f45...orld-just-one-more-revolution-update-1327536/
Register and go to "Download Area"

Jesus....tht will have to wait. That looks pretty complicated..... lol
I'll see what I can do later this week.
Thanks!

Galaxy s unlock in the market.
Use the option to back up, then after copy the galaxys unlock folder on your sdcard to your PC someplace safe...

Galaxy s unlock in the market.
Use the option to back up, then after copy the galaxys unlock folder on your sdcard to your PC someplace safe...
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I tried that early on because it looked so easy. All I get is "Sorry, no codes found unknown error" Is there a way to tell if I'm CID unlocked or not? I haven't done that yet that I know of. I did click the unlock button is Super One Click, but it did nothing. By that I mean the program, nor the phone seemed like anything happened. Early on in this process I found the completly rooted version of my stock Froyo 2.2 and installed that on my phone thinking that it would root the phone. Later realized it doesn't work like that. How do I check the CID lock? I'de like to try one of these cool ROM's I keep reading about.

unless you are planning on running the captivate on another carrier, you dont need to unlock it.

I was under the impression that I needed to CID unlock the phone to flash any ROM not produced or signed by the carrier. I thought SIM unlock was what allowed you to take the phone to another carrier?
As you can see, I know enough to be dangerous, but I'm slowly learning.

DaytonGuy said:
I was under the impression that I needed to CID unlock the phone to flash any ROM not produced or signed by the carrier. I thought SIM unlock was what allowed you to take the phone to another carrier?
As you can see, I know enough to be dangerous, but I'm slowly learning.
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CID unlocks do not apply to Samsung phones.
once you have a kernel that has CWM built into it, you can start flashing. nothing else required. you dont even need root if you arent planning on using something like titanium backup before you flash.

Cool.
So any recomendations on my first custom ROM install?
I tried installing a custum boot animation last night and had no luck. I used CWM to flash the file I downloaded, but no change. I tried to copy a new customanimation.zip (I think that's what it's called I'm going from memory here) but I don't have RW access to the System folder. I tried using CWM to mount system and then fix permissions through recovery mode, but that doesn't do it. I'm using Droid Explorer to copy the file but it won't copy. There is a customamination.zip file in system/media so I tried to rename it .zp and it won't take. I assume that is a permissions thing.
I guess I'll try Root Exploer from the market. People seem to be having luck with that.

you cant use a bootanimation.zip on a stock kernel. It just be enabled in a custom kernel.
Go read some more bro. A LOT MORE.

OK. so it looks like I downloaded a custom animation zip file, but I need to flash a kernel that allows me to use the anmation. I ran across a post about that so I can find it.
Was was confusing to me was the uploader of the animation called it "flashable" so I thought that was the kernel and all, but I'm now guessing that by flashing it it simply installed it into the system/media folder for me???
Still looking for any suggestions for my first ROM.

HTC VIVID Super User Problems....

So I am a new person and therefor can not post this in the development thread under the forum where I feel it would belong with the other root related questions.... So i followed the SUPER GUIDE to root my phone (Thank you so much Slapshot and PirateGhost, I was beginning to regret not getting a skyrocket until I found your thread). My super user is running into an issue I can not seem to fix.....
Maybe this is simple or maybe I really messed something up....
Basically none of my apps have root anymore (they did at one point and to my knowledge I change nothing...)
When I go to the Super User app to update my binaries and hopefully get any issues resolved I am greeted by the following error message in the update log: "Failed to find currently installed SU binary. Update cannot continue"
Is there a resolution for this? I have not found anyone even running into the same issue on the Vivid.....
A little nervous.... I didnt have near this many issues rooting my ATRIX and modding the living daylights out of that.

Have you checked with Root Checker Basic to see if you even have Root? If you didn't follow the Super Guide step by step your phone could have relocked after you turned your phone off/on.
If it still fails to update you could try SuperUser Update Fixer.

Yes I have check with root checker.
This may be a dumb question but how do I uninstall Superuser? When I go to the typical application management it does not give me the option. I have done an install again to overwrite the files and nothing changed there.
I followed the instructions step by step (though obviously I messed up somewhere...)
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA App

Kraizk said:
So I am a new person and therefor can not post this in the development thread under the forum where I feel it would belong with the other root related questions.... So i followed the SUPER GUIDE to root my phone (Thank you so much Slapshot and PirateGhost, I was beginning to regret not getting a skyrocket until I found your thread). My super user is running into an issue I can not seem to fix.....
Maybe this is simple or maybe I really messed something up....
Basically none of my apps have root anymore (they did at one point and to my knowledge I change nothing...)
When I go to the Super User app to update my binaries and hopefully get any issues resolved I am greeted by the following error message in the update log: "Failed to find currently installed SU binary. Update cannot continue"
Is there a resolution for this? I have not found anyone even running into the same issue on the Vivid.....
A little nervous.... I didnt have near this many issues rooting my ATRIX and modding the living daylights out of that.
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Interesting... maybe your root didn't stick. We had a little trouble with that before but pirateghost fixed the CWM ROOT zip. You have a working CWM Recovery, correct?
In the superguide, I have a second option for root in case the first doesn't work. In your case, go ahead and try the second option. The one involving the supertool. That should get you perm root. If that doesn't even work, then we might have to put you back to stock and go at it again.
EDIT: BEFORE TRYING THE SUPERTOOL, try flashing the new CWM ROOT VER2 zip from CWM recovery and see if root sticks.

Slapshot, thank you for checking the General Thread, I really do appreciate that. I have tried both methods multiple times since the root failure seeing as so many people said they had to run the methods multiple times to make them stick (this admittedly may be part of the issue). The most recent one has been the CWM ROOT VER2. Still no dice. Is there a method to remove and re install super user? Or am I reading into the error too literally and instead I just basically do not have root.

Kraizk said:
Slapshot, thank you for checking the General Thread, I really do appreciate that. I have tried both methods multiple times since the root failure seeing as so many people said they had to run the methods multiple times to make them stick (this admittedly may be part of the issue). The most recent one has been the CWM ROOT VER2. Still no dice. Is there a method to remove and re install super user? Or am I reading into the error too literally and instead I just basically do not have root.
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No problem. At this point I think you may just not have root... but first, go ahead and go into bootloader (power off, then power on while holding power and vol down). Does your device say unlocked?

*Just a clarification*
You have to unroot your phone to get rid of it Idk why I put uninstall/reinstall earlier...still out there from last night I guess.

slapshot30 said:
No problem. At this point I think you may just not have root... but first, go ahead and go into bootloader (power off, then power on while holding power and vol down). Does your device say unlocked?
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Yes the device still says unlocked. That was one of the first things I checked... Haha....
As I said ive flashed the rooted CWM and it says it went over successfully.
If i use the Zerg exploit it still seems to go over successfully (I realize this has a tenancy to mess with internal storage and only provide a temp root but i do not even get that temp root).
How would I unroot my device? Do you mean flash to stock and relock my boot loader?
As I said I have flashed several devices in the past (Atrix, eee pad transformer, HTC Inspire, HTC DINC, SAMSUNG GALAXY S T-Mobile) but I am not completely up to date on all of the technical terms...

Kraizk said:
Yes the device still says unlocked. That was one of the first things I checked... Haha....
As I said ive flashed the rooted CWM and it says it went over successfully.
If i use the Zerg exploit it still seems to go over successfully (I realize this has a tenancy to mess with internal storage and only provide a temp root but i do not even get that temp root).
How would I unroot my device? Do you mean flash to stock and relock my boot loader?
As I said I have flashed several devices in the past (Atrix, eee pad transformer, HTC Inspire, HTC DINC, SAMSUNG GALAXY S T-Mobile) but I am not completely up to date on all of the technical terms...
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Yes, I mean relock the bootloader and back to stock rom, then try again. Do you know how to get back to stock?

slapshot30 said:
Yes, I mean relock the bootloader and back to stock rom, then try again. Do you know how to get back to stock?
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actually that one I do not know how to do... I realize this is probably somewhat annoying because I am sure you have said how to do it before.... Some help would be greatly appreciated

Kraizk said:
actually that one I do not know how to do... I realize this is probably somewhat annoying because I am sure you have said how to do it before.... Some help would be greatly appreciated
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I haven't told anyone how to do it surprisingly, and I'm more than happy to help . I was honestly thinking about adding reverting back to stock to the superguide, and I think I just may do that. Here is the link. Pirateghost is the man.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20821226&postcount=4

Thank you for this and all of your help, people like you and ghostpirate are why i still feel like I can turn to the XDA community. I will try this firs thing in the morning and give an update on how things went. I would try it tonight but lets be honest, its the 1st of the year and the last thing I need to be doing is messing with technology.....

Kraizk said:
Thank you for this and all of your help, people like you and ghostpirate are why i still feel like I can turn to the XDA community. I will try this firs thing in the morning and give an update on how things went. I would try it tonight but lets be honest, its the 1st of the year and the last thing I need to be doing is messing with technology.....
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It's no problem, this isn't a dumb question or easy issue by any means. If the method I directed to you doesn't work, let me know. There is another way to do it without all the code.

slapshot30 said:
I haven't told anyone how to do it surprisingly, and I'm more than happy to help . I was honestly thinking about adding reverting back to stock to the superguide, and I think I just may do that. Here is the link. Pirateghost is the man.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20821226&postcount=4
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Worked perfectly. I flashed it back to stock using the thread you linked me to. Then I did the CWM Root method and so far so good. I appreciate all of your help

Nice, I'm glad you were able to get everything working.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium

[Q] Noob Rooting? removing carrier bloatware

hi people,
new to the forum, never realised this site existed, thankfully im now a member of this great information community
i am new to the whole rooting phones and software blah blah,
i currently have a htc incredible s with optus (australian software) on it,
now i am wanting to remove all the bloatware and just put a standard htc software on the phone that will allow me to upgrade to ics when it comes out in june for my model phone?
now i am not interested in customizing the rom or flashing it with any other aftermarket software, i just want to the original on there,
please note i am noob, and i have tried some of the methods already suggested, but still not having any luck,
so can some1 please shed me some light and explain to me how to do this in a noob manner please?
any info is appreciated
thanks

What methods have you tried?
HTC boot loader unlocked?
Lynts guide?
Novers tool ?
Sent from my Incredible S using xda premium

i have tried a program called revolutinary or something, but bare with me as i am very noob,
if you have any other easy methods, id highly appreciate it

Hi dont worry i started off as a noob to so dont worry!
I am also with optus! YAY!
I need to know your hboot version and if you are s - off!
Here are some noob steps!
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1. Go to Menu (The third button from the left on the buttons at the button). Then click Settings. Then goto Applications. Then uncheck the box called 'Fastboot'
2. Turn off your phone (If you don't know how to, unlock the screen and hold the power button until a menu pops up, then press power off/shut down!
3. When phone is completely shut down, hold the volume down button and the power button, (Hold it for a few seconds). A screen should pop up.
4. Note down all the information and private message me.
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This will show me what method you need to use. So Private Message me A.S.A.P!

Every Australian with an Inc S nearly is Optus lol
OPTUS IS HOPELESSSS COMING FROM TELSTRA
Sorry just wanted to vent my frustration
Anyway if you root, you will not be able to install the OTA. Whichever method you use. Apart from temp root, but it will be lost after reboot.
If you want to root, whichever way you do it (I recommend Revolutionary), you will be able to install an ICS custom rom, assuming one will be made.
Just a warning if you wanted to root now and install the update later on
That is not possible :/

markj338 said:
Every Australian with an Inc S nearly is Optus lol
OPTUS IS HOPELESSSS COMING FROM TELSTRA
Sorry just wanted to vent my frustration
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yeh i gotta admit optus suks compared to telstra in connection , speed and coverage
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

Just like you I was new to this also. I used Revolutionary which seemed fine for me. The one piece of advice I could give you is follow the instructions to the letter, I jumped steps, root failed.
Tried again this time more slowly and hey presto it worked and my phone is now rooted and S-Off.
As for roms just search these forums under your phone and read em, do the research first cos that will really help you later on. This made my phone loads better and got rid of the orange bloatware that I really hated, hence looking via google on these forums for options.
Cant stress this enough rooting is the way forward
Have fun

lippylion said:
Cant stress this enough rooting is the way forward
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True, but do not attempt it unless you know exactly what you are doing and the risks it involves.
The bloatware on optus is ridiculous, NONE of the things I ever used. Just sitting there looking stupid in my app drawer, wasting valuable space and ram
That said, I would rather have an unrooted stock phone than a bricked one lol

so no 1 can help? wow
btw i have hboot 2.00.000
seems to not root
helllllllllllllllllllllllp?

adthree said:
so no 1 can help? wow
btw i have hboot 2.00.000
seems to not root
helllllllllllllllllllllllp?
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Revolutinary will not work with HBOOT 2.00.0000. You need to do this method/procedure first before you can use Revolutionary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
The other option is to unlock the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com and then flash ClockworkMod recovery and then finally you can flash su-3.0.7-efghi.zip to root the Optus ROM. Then you could use Titianium backup to cleanup the bloatware.

u might have to explain it a little better for me pls, as this is my first time doing this, like i said in the op + the download is a dead link my friend

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Revolutinary will not work with HBOOT 2.00.0000. You need to do this method/procedure first before you can use Revolutionary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
The other option is to unlock the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com and then flash ClockworkMod recovery and then finally you can flash su-3.0.7-efghi.zip to root the Optus ROM. Then you could use Titianium backup to cleanup the bloatware.
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can this process be reversed? , because if I have to take my phone back for warranty they will be like you unlocked bootloader flashed **** blah blah blah

tpbklake said:
Revolutinary will not work with HBOOT 2.00.0000. You need to do this method/procedure first before you can use Revolutionary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
The other option is to unlock the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com and then flash ClockworkMod recovery and then finally you can flash su-3.0.7-efghi.zip to root the Optus ROM. Then you could use Titianium backup to cleanup the bloatware.
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adthree said:
u might have to explain it a little better for me pls, as this is my first time doing this, like i said in the op
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OK I hate to be so blunt, but it sounds like you need to do a lot more reading and studying about your options and how to perform the procedure before you continue.
The days of simple one-click rooting for noobs on an IncS are no more my friend.
You need to understand how to use the Android SDK tools such as adb.exe and fastboot.exe in order to root your system these days, so I suggest you begin by reading the sticky posts in this forum and then find out how to use adb and fastboot.

Root and flash Custom Rom without PC

Hi,
I have an unbranded and unlocked nexus 6. I wanted to root and install twrp so I can begin flashing custom roms... Only problem is, I don't have a pc at home to ADB flash twrp, etc.... Is there any method to flash custom rom without having a machine at home? I have absolutely no need for a pc at home, until this precise moment when I get a new phone and I want to start flashing, lol. Im gonna assuming the answer is NO, im thinking there may be some OTG method with files from a thumb drive, but I'll wait to hear from the experts. Thanks in advance.

I have been wondering that very question myself. I really doubt it's possible, but since I have had my N6 and LG G Pad, I don't ever use my antique Pentium 4 Dell PC hardly at all.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

It's totally possible but highly recommended against. There is an app to root, which then you use flashify to flash recovery but if you ever have a problem, you won't be able to fix it because you need a PC to get a rom back on your phone if you accidentally wipe the os or do some other mischief that prevents you booting, you wont be able.to unlock your bootloader which means you won't be able.to.flash stock or return for warranty purposes either, so as.much as you want to do this, it would really put you in an awful position and you'd be screwed if something goes wrong, which the chances are, it will.

danarama said:
It's totally possible but highly recommended against. There is an app to root, which then you use flashify to flash recovery but if you ever have a problem, you won't be able to fix it because you need a PC to get a rom back on your phone if you accidentally wipe the os or do some other mischief that prevents you booting, you wont be able.to unlock your bootloader which means you won't be able.to.flash stock or return for warranty purposes either, so as.much as you want to do this, it would really put you in an awful position and you'd be screwed if something goes wrong, which the chances are, it will.
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I have no issues with the first potential problem you mentioned (having to get a rom back on phone using a pc) because I have a backup phone, plus if it gets to that stage, I can use a friends computer if I really need to. But the last comment you made about the chances of an error occurring and saying that it most likely will and i'll be unable to get it back to stock scares me. Is this method really that unreliable? I will read up on it more, and search through the forums.
If you can provide details of the app to root, that would be great. Also, how reliable is the app to root alone by itself? Minus the flashify portion...

nseriessaga said:
I have no issues with the first potential problem you mentioned (having to get a rom back on phone using a pc) because I have a backup phone, plus if it gets to that stage, I can use a friends computer if I really need to. But the last comment you made about the chances of an error occurring and saying that it most likely will and i'll be unable to get it back to stock scares me. Is this method really that unreliable? I will read up on it more, and search through the forums.
If you can provide details of the app to root, that would be great. Also, how reliable is the app to root alone by itself? Minus the flashify portion...
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It's not the method that's unreliable the app "kingroot" (I believe it is called) works fine. The issues occur with everything and anything else root users do. Flashing a rom, a mod, wiping the os via recovery etc.
Then if anything hardware goes wrong, returning the device for repair under warranty will likely be rejected if its not stock.

danarama said:
It's not the method that's unreliable the app "kingroot" (I believe it is called) works fine. The issues occur with everything and anything else root users do. Flashing a rom, a mod, wiping the os via recovery etc.
Then if anything hardware goes wrong, returning the device for repair under warranty will likely be rejected if its not stock.
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Gotcha, so maybe I can just root and install apks of apps I really want like adaway, etc... then I should be fine as long as im not using the flash method correct?

nseriessaga said:
Gotcha, so maybe I can just root and install apks of apps I really want like adaway, etc... then I should be fine as long as im not using the flash method correct?
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I'm not going to commit to an answer there
One thing I will say though, you'll never be able to update with an OTA, so if you're going to root, have a custom recovery,. Allow.oem unlock and have an unlocked bootloader.
Best bet is to do the proper.routing and unlocking using your friends of as a one off. You can then safely.maintain the phone without a pc and use the pc in am emergency. Not unlocking the bootloader from the beginning is.asking.for.trouble
Man I need a new keyboard

danarama said:
I'm not going to commit to an answer there
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lol I understand.. thx m8

nseriessaga said:
lol I understand.. thx m8
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Edit above

danarama said:
I'm not going to commit to an answer there
One thing I will say though, you'll never be able to update with an OTA, so if you're going to root, have a custom recovery,. Allow.oem unlock and have an unlocked bootloader.
Best bet is to do the proper.routing and unlocking using your friends of as a one off. You can then safely.maintain the phone without a pc and use the pc in am emergency. Not unlocking the bootloader from the beginning is.asking.for.trouble
Man I need a new keyboard
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k, I already used the kingroot method and verified using root checker. Installed adaway and everything seems to work perfectly (so far anyway). Uninstalling Kingroot unroots the phone from my quick series of test that I've run so OTA updates doesn't seem like it'll be a problem.
I agree though, if I really want to do any rom flashing, ill just unlock, root, and flash using "proper methods".
Appreciate all your help man.

nseriessaga said:
k, I already used the kingroot method and verified using root checker. Installed adaway and everything seems to work perfectly (so far anyway). Uninstalling Kingroot unroots the phone from my quick series of test that I've run so OTA updates doesn't seem like it'll be a problem.
I agree though, if I really want to do any rom flashing, ill just unlock, root, and flash using "proper methods".
Appreciate all your help man.
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Uninstalling Kingroot removes root but does not uninstall all modified files. Will show as modified and thus no OTA updates. Another thread on same thing here somewhere. Have to flash system back to stock with PC for any updates.
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It's also not safe to update without bootloader unlocked anyway. Too many reported bootloops with OTA.

prdog1 said:
Uninstalling Kingroot removes root but does not uninstall all modified files. Will show as modified and thus no OTA updates. Another thread on same thing here somewhere. Have to flash system back to stock with PC for any updates.
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It's also not safe to update without bootloader unlocked anyway. Too many reported bootloops with OTA.
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Exactly this. All root methods edit.existing files but do not restore them after unroot. So the system is modified. We're.100% certain there will be no OTA.
Unlock the bootloader and do it properly.

Ok thanks guys. I guess eventually I'll have to get my hands on a PC lol. Thanks again