Modified from my instructions posted in the wiki.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Omnia_7#Updating.2FChanging_the_ROM
Updating/Changing the ROM
Before continuing with any of the following processes, you should note that (at present) there is no way to back up your user data. Things such as your contacts and emails can be re-downloaded from your phone since they are stored on remote servers. Multimedia items which have been synced with Zune to your PC can also manually be transferred back to your phone. However, things such as personalisation settings, SMS and MMS are lost. Programs can, of course, be re-downloaded from the Marktetplace - but this, again, is a manual process.
This process may also help your recover a "bricked"device - or rather one which does not successfully boot up into Windows Phone fully.
Hard Reset / Full Format
You may wish to hard reset the phone if you are experiencing software errors which are not fixed after a soft reset (pulling the battery out) or if you wish to clear the phone (i.e. you've just bought the phone second hand or are selling the phone).
To hard Reset your Omnia 7 without booting into Windows Phone 7, you have to:
Turn off the phone.
Turn on the phone, holding the Power + Volume DOWN + Camera buttons
Hit home button (Start) twice to begin.
Update/Change the ROM
Disclaimer:You should note that this process may void your warranty! Neither I nor xda will be held responsible for any damage caused, or refusal of warranty, by following this guide.
Before you can update your ROM you'll need to see if you can access the phone's Download Mode.
Accessing Download Mode
To update your ROM software, you will need to be able to access the phone's download mode.
Turn off the phone
Turn on the phone, holding down the Power + Volume UP + Camera buttons simultaneously.
When the phone turns on, release the power button.
A yellow triangle with an exclamation mark and a "download mode” message should appear.
If you are successful in this then you can continue with the flash. If you are unable to access download mode, then your phone has a faulty(?) bootloader. Follow the instructions in this forum post.
Download your ROM and flash tools
To flash the new ROM you will need:
Your new ROM.
There are currently three ROMs available though the only difference is their locale (which you can change later in the settings). The 8700XXJK1 ## 2010 November CSC_Cetus_Europe_I8700XENJK1 can be found here. The ROM package is compressed in .rar format, the password is samfirmware.com
Edit: A nice sticky thread now exists with loads of ROMs available here
Samsung Mobile USB Drivers v5.2
Can be found here
Samsung WP7 Flash Program
Can be found here
Now we're ready to flash!
Turn off your phone and disconnect it from the PC
Unrar the downloaded ROM package and install the Samsung USB drivers
Boot the phone into download mode (or insert your jig)
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Now connect the phone to your PC. Windows should recognise your device and install the drivers (it may check Windows Update first, you can either skip this or just let it be).
Open the WP7 flash program. If you are prompted with an md5 error, don't worry! You should see now an Active COM port (green) in the program.
Drag and drop the ROM files (all four) into the program, a small box will pop up and check the files. It will disappear.
Click start and the flash process begins!
DO NOT interrupt this process. Keep the phone and PC connected throughout. After 10-15mins the phone will reboot and you'll have your fresh new ROM.
Some things to note:
Between steps 7 and 8 everything should go automatically.
After the phone reboots for the fist time, a screen with a phone and a computer with an arrow and a red cross over the arrow will appear - this is OK!
There may be some delay between the phone asking for its new configuration settings and the flash program saying the flash is complete (a progress bar states it is still "Rebuilding"). It may be wise to just allow that progress bar to complete before inserting the new settings.
Depending upon what ROM you flash, you will find that your language and locale are probably not correct. You will need to change these in "Settings" for things such as Marketplace to work correctly.
If the Flash program does not recognise your device, try a different USB port. If that still doesn't work, try starting the program first and then plug in your phone.
Credits: Heathcliff74 and Erwan for the images.
Casey
Very good and very detailed... super job dude!
One quick question if i may... the screenshots show Vista OS i believe? Any idea if this will work on XP at all?
Thanks in advance
Yep, I think it works on Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP3, Vista and 7 - though I've only tested it on Win 7.
Let us know, if it doesn't!
Casey
i cant seem to extract the file. its failing
The updater app didn't seem to recognise the phone at first try, y had to reconnect it several times until everything went fine
Thanks, updated!
mikkybukky82 said:
i cant seem to extract the file. its failing
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Did you enter the password? Somewhere in your rar extractor you'll have to put the password: samfirmware.com
Hope that helps,
Casey
Update successful ^^
Thanks for the guide !
Omnia 7 French locked to ORANGE
Flashing the ROM always seemed quite complicated to me. But after going thorugh the guide and flashing my phone successfully I have to say it actually quite easy.
Thanks for the guide.
Flashing is quick and easy with this guide, very n00b friendly.
I have a problem :S ...
i want to update my Omnia 7 and i get this...
I don't know why ... it was green...com 3
EDIT: I guess that i must connect USB cable to back of my PC ... in front USB just disconnecting device.
gogibyte said:
I have a problem :S ...
i want to update my Omnia 7 and i get this...
I don't know why ... it was green...com 3
[B]EDIT: [/B] I guess that i must connect USB cable to back of my PC :) ... in front USB just disconnecting device.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's strange but I used to have the same problem when flashing ROMs to my HTC HD2, some of the USB ports worked and some didn't.
Glad you managed to fix it though!
Casey
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Is this fw 7.0.7008?
premikkoci said:
Is this fw 7.0.7008?
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No, but you should find that as soon as you flash this you'll get the notification to update.
Casey
I have a problem. My HP pavilion 6 doesn´t found my omnia 7 in download mode.
premikkoci said:
I have a problem. My HP pavilion 6 doesn´t found my omnia 7 in download mode.
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You've installed the drivers, right?
If so, try using a different USB port.
Casey
premikkoci said:
I have a problem. My HP pavilion 6 doesn´t found my omnia 7 in download mode.
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had the same issue...
- first i had to use jig for downloadmode (with the 3 button "trick" i got only the restore thing)
- i plugged the phone to computer...nothing happens (driver was installed before and i have rebooted)
- i unplugged the phone and used another usb port
-> driver where installed, i thought all is fine
- i started "WP7 flash program" but the program didnt see the phone, i checked device manager and all looked fine
- i unplugged the phone and plugged it in at the usb port i used first (when the phone was in restore mode)
- wp7 flash program found my phone
- flashed and all was fine
btw had a t-mobile (de) branded one and didnt get the 7008 update...now i have it in no time
€dith
i think marketplace and zune (on the phone) are now much more stable#
@dith 2:
marketplace ist much much much more stable compared to my original image and i had bad lags, now...no lags.
I dont know if the 7008 update makes this all or just the new firmware
EDIT. It works!
Is it possible to reverse this incase you need to return your phone for repair etc ?
Forzahibs said:
Is it possible to reverse this incase you need to return your phone for repair etc ?
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If you can find your original ROM, then yes.
Casey
Download Mode
When I try to put my Omnia 7 into download mode using the 3 buttons I get a screen showing a phone to the left with a zig zag arrow to a laptop on the right. Is this an alternative download mode screen or is it the "bad" downloader??
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Hey guys,
I got a SGS I9000 here from a friend of mine who got it from egay (stupid, but nvm) and I try to fix the device but till now I was not lucky.
I want to upgrade to a newer / higher version but the "faulty" USB makes it very difficult.
Here are the facts:
- The device is running 2.3.3 Gingerbread
- Device Information: GT-I9000HKYDBT + PDA: I9000XWJVI , PHONE: I9000XXJVO, CSC: I9000DBTJV2
- Charging via USB does work, data connection does not work
- Entering Recovery Mode works
- CWM is not installed
- Samsung Kies is installed
- Entering Download Mode works
- External micro-SD Cards are being recognized at Android
- If I connect the device in Windows or Download Mode, the message "USB-Device was not recognized" comes up
What I`ve tried till now:
- three different micro-USB cables (original Samsung, HTC and Motorola)
- two different PCs with Kies installed and not installed
- Tried to flash via Recovery Mode but nothing is shown on the "external SD", even after renaming to update.zip
- Managed to copy files into internal flash but since the "original" Recovery Mode seems to have a verification, the flash process aborts either with
"E:signature verification failed" or "E:failed to verify whole-file signature"
- Odin of course but USB data does not work unfortunately so Odin as well
So the big question for me is:
Is there ANY chance to root/flash the device with the actual difficulties?
Any help or hints are highly appreciated.
Cheers
FaCeOff said:
So the big question for me is:
Is there ANY chance to root/flash the device with the actual difficulties?
Any help or hints are highly appreciated. Cheers
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you may have to try all these http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27205737&postcount=4571 But first break that cycle by removing battery and reinsert after a few min and check phone connection or Mobile Odin is another option
email the recovery file to yourself or upload to dropbox. then download to your phone and flash away!
Don't forget to thoroughly clean your micro usb connector. I once had the same issue with my sgs. Different cables or drivers didn't work. I was about to give up on it, but then fixed it by cleaning it with rubbing alcohol and very tiny dentaid toothbrushes.
Afterwards it worked like a charm. Worth giving a shot, since these connectors collect a lot of dust/dirt over time.
xsenman said:
you may have to try all these http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27205737&postcount=4571 But first break that cycle by removing battery and reinsert after a few min and check phone connection or Mobile Odin is another option
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Thanks for your fast reply.
I did mention this thread yesterday but after installing all different drivers, switching of the PC completely and disconnecting all devices, turning BT ON/OFF, switching between Dev Mode and MSD I'm at the same position as before.
Doesn't matter which cable I use, I just get always the same fking message about Device is not being recognized.
In the meantime, I got a 2nd SGS from a friend of mine which works perfectly after connecting the device with my PC.
It starts immediately with the driver installation and is ready in couple of seconds.
I also tried to put the cable carefully into the USB but it doesn't help either.
Any other suggestions?
FaCeOff said:
Any other suggestions?
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That would mean, its your USB slot on the phone, that needs a solution, either you have to examine it very closely for damage to resolve it or its internal and you may have to change it.
hey
can u do to download mode??
if u can then upgrade using Odin...
And the uUSB issues cam with my SGS too,but after flashing the firwmare via odin there was no issues...i flashed 2.3.6 ValuePack..
U too can give it a shot..
xsenman said:
That would mean, its your USB slot on the phone, that needs a solution, either you have to examine it very closely for damage to resolve it or its internal and you may have to change it.
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Yep, doesn't look good and now I'm quite sure this cannot be solved easily.
tchindalia said:
hey
can u do to download mode??
if u can then upgrade using Odin...
And the uUSB issues cam with my SGS too,but after flashing the firwmare via odin there was no issues...i flashed 2.3.6 ValuePack..
U too can give it a shot..
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Well, as told above, I can enter download mode but USB DATA connection does not work!
So from my understanding, Odin only works if there's a valid connection, otherwise I could flash anything and would not have the problem
Mobile Odin does not work due to the root restriction.
Is there any way to flash another ROM or get the the device rooted with these restrictions?
Stuck on First Screen
Well this is not an answer to the problem. Well am having the same problem as you, just mine is more complicated.
I managed to root using Z4root by copying the APK file on external sd .
I got cmw and entered recovery.
I updated using the CM10-unofficial rom that is in the development forum
I restored the nand that i did in recovery and now the phone is frozen (Stuck) on the first boot screen (Galaxy S GT-i9000 SCREEN)
Now I can go to Download mode but I can't go to recovery mode.
Let me remind you that my USB data connection is not working.
So now I am looking for a solution that would permit me to flash without USB or allow me to go to recovery mode.
Or a tutorial on how to change the usb port myself.
Thanks in advance.
kigordid said:
Now I can go to Download mode but I can't go to recovery mode.
Let me remind you that my USB data connection is not working.
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As long as you can get to download mode, flashing should solve your problem after you resolve the USB problem , which can be due a number of issues.
Somehow ROM changes and bad flashes, may have pin configuration changes on the phone, (just like changes in combo key functions when you use different ROM) ...so driver changes works for some
So you may have to try all these http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27205737&postcount=4571 options to get your USB connection back. But first break that cycle by removing battery and reinsert after a few min and check phone connection , and try those options.
FaCeOff said:
Thanks for your fast reply.
I did mention this thread yesterday but after installing all different drivers, switching of the PC completely and disconnecting all devices, turning BT ON/OFF, switching between Dev Mode and MSD I'm at the same position as before.
Doesn't matter which cable I use, I just get always the same fking message about Device is not being recognized.
In the meantime, I got a 2nd SGS from a friend of mine which works perfectly after connecting the device with my PC.
It starts immediately with the driver installation and is ready in couple of seconds.
I also tried to put the cable carefully into the USB but it doesn't help either.
Any other suggestions?
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Sorry to repeat my comment again, but if all these drivers aren't working for you, you should check your micro-usb connector. I'm pretty sure the connector is the issue here.
Have you tried cleaning the micro-usb connector on your phone? Don't just blow the dust out or clean it a bit with some paper, but go for a complete and thorough cleaning solution.
Get yourself some dentaid toothbrushes. Get a few sizes. You can get these at your local pharmacy.
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Get some Cleaning / Rubbing Alcohol. You can find this at a handyman store or your local pharmacy should have this as well.
Dip the toothbrush with some rubbing alcohol. The toothbrush should be a bit moist but not dripping wet.
Start cleaning the connector. You can apply some pressure to clean everything.
If this doesn't work, no harm done. These things are quite cheap and rubbing alcohol and these dentaid toothbrushes come in handy when other electronics go bust.
Honestly, just try it! People always dismiss this solution attempt as a last resort but it's usually the problem fixer.
I fixed mine that had the same problem with a similar technique
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk 2
Trying using mobile Odin.
Establish best recowery mod fix and adb on your computer.
without root and probably will not even cwm mobile Odin.
HEY GUYS !!
I am new to xda so im not sure if i have posted it at the right place.
anyway, my phone (galaxy pocket GTS5300) is rooted runs on infuzion 2 kernel and has hydroperia v2 custom rom(i followed the instructions from xda)
so recently i wanted to increase its ram so i partioned my external sd and installed swapper 2 (just like the post in xda),everything went all right
then i downloaded "file2sd"" from play store and installed it to gets some space in my phones internal memory but as i opened the app and selected
the format as ext3 the said i have to reboot and i pressed the "" restart now ""button,thats it and the phone just got stuck i waited for some time no buttons responded so removed the battery and tried turning it on but it just shows a blank screen after showing the model no. and i CANT enter recovery mode but i can enter odin (but my laptop does not recognize the device,eventhough i have tried installing all the usb drivers and kies ,i dont know if its because of the data cable or windows8 or my phone ) so i removed my external sd copied all my files and saw (in mini tool partition wizard)that my 2nd partition was full(512 mb)i didnt know what to do and i formatted everything(sd).
i dont know what to do next .someone please help!!!
glenzac said:
HEY GUYS !!
I am new to xda so im not sure if i have posted it at the right place.
anyway, my phone (galaxy pocket GTS5300) is rooted runs on infuzion 2 kernel and has hydroperia v2 custom rom(i followed the instructions from xda)
so recently i wanted to increase its ram so i partioned my external sd and installed swapper 2 (just like the post in xda),everything went all right
then i downloaded "file2sd"" from play store and installed it to gets some space in my phones internal memory but as i opened the app and selected
the format as ext3 the said i have to reboot and i pressed the "" restart now ""button,thats it and the phone just got stuck i waited for some time no buttons responded so removed the battery and tried turning it on but it just shows a blank screen after showing the model no. and i CANT enter recovery mode but i can enter odin (but my laptop does not recognize the device,eventhough i have tried installing all the usb drivers and kies ,i dont know if its because of the data cable or windows8 or my phone ) so i removed my external sd copied all my files and saw (in mini tool partition wizard)that my 2nd partition was full(512 mb)i didnt know what to do and i formatted everything(sd).
i dont know what to do next .someone please help!!!
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So you can actually enter the "download" mode. Thats good at least.
Win 8 comatible driver --> Samsung 1.5.27.0
Which version of odin do you use? This will wotk for you --> Odin 3.07
thanks 4 quick reply
THANKS FOR THE REPLY!!!!!
I HAVE THE USB DRIVER 1.5.23 and still the phone wont work.
actually i have both odin1.85 and 3.09
glenzac said:
THANKS FOR THE REPLY!!!!!
I HAVE THE USB DRIVER 1.5.23 and still the phone wont work.
actually i have both odin1.85 and 3.09
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Check under device manager if it shows usb device with yellow triangle while phone is connected to computer (Be sure to set show all devices)
yes
LS.xD said:
Check under device manager if it shows usb device with yellow triangle while phone is connected to computer (Be sure to set show all devices)
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when i used to connect the phone it would show "usb device not recognized".i tried reinstalling the usb drivers but no use.
glenzac said:
when i used to connect the phone it would show "usb device not recognized".i tried reinstalling the usb drivers but no use.
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you have to force the installation. Right mouse on device. Install driver. select driver manually. (you have to xtract the driver files from the installer first) show "incompatible" devices --> musg be sth like "USB composite device"
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LS.xD said:
you have to force the installation. Right mouse on device. Install driver. select driver manually. (you have to xtract the driver files from the installer first) show "incompatible" devices --> musg be sth like "USB composite device"
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im sorry i havent understood what you said, can you PLEASE explain it in a detailed manner
glenzac said:
im sorry i havent understood what you said, can you PLEASE explain it in a detailed manner
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device manager shoes "unknown device" with a yellow triangle?
glenzac said:
HEY GUYS !!
I am new to xda so im not sure if i have posted it at the right place.
anyway, my phone (galaxy pocket GTS5300) is rooted runs on infuzion 2 kernel and has hydroperia v2 custom rom(i followed the instructions from xda)
so recently i wanted to increase its ram so i partioned my external sd and installed swapper 2 (just like the post in xda),everything went all right
then i downloaded "file2sd"" from play store and installed it to gets some space in my phones internal memory but as i opened the app and selected
the format as ext3 the said i have to reboot and i pressed the "" restart now ""button,thats it and the phone just got stuck i waited for some time no buttons responded so removed the battery and tried turning it on but it just shows a blank screen after showing the model no. and i CANT enter recovery mode but i can enter odin (but my laptop does not recognize the device,eventhough i have tried installing all the usb drivers and kies ,i dont know if its because of the data cable or windows8 or my phone ) so i removed my external sd copied all my files and saw (in mini tool partition wizard)that my 2nd partition was full(512 mb)i didnt know what to do and i formatted everything(sd).
i dont know what to do next .someone please help!!!
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The Best Solution Is :
Press thanks if It helps
Download CWM From here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1461120&d=1352197095
Download Stockrom from here : http://www.4shared.com/zip/SZzB-egN/S5300XXLF5_S5300BTULF1_BTU.html
Put both zips in your sd card
go to recovery mode by pressing vol up + home button + power button (Hold for 10 seconds)
Now in recovery mode select apply update from sd card and select cwm file...
Now in cwm mode again go to apply update from sd card ...
Select Stock ROm ZIP...
You will now boot normally
N'ayam Amarsh'e said:
Download The Samsung Unbicking Software from Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153310 and try it out and if it works press thanks button and also of the creator of this software....
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Have you tried this before? I did --> no success at all, its made for Galaxy S. Sure try it out
PM me if ya want something-...
further?
LS.xD said:
device manager shoes "unknown device" with a yellow triangle?
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ok i am working on it
if at all it works what am i to do next?
what all files should i have?
LS.xD said:
Have you tried this before? I did --> no success at all, its made for Galaxy S. Sure try it out
PM me if ya want something-...
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It's edited now....
glenzac said:
ok i am working on it
if at all it works what am i to do next?
what all files should i have?
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you have extracted samsung drivers in a folder on your desktop????
right mouse button on unknown device - install driver - searh pc for drivers -> show list -> select folder where the samsung driver is stored -> unmark "compatible devices" and then you can manually select a device if it shoes not compatible -> ignore just install
before we fill 20 more pages may be you can install "gtalk"?
what next???
N'ayam Amarsh'e said:
It's edited now....
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the soft brick software will not do as i can access odin
so can someone please help me to go ahead with odin
what files would i require?
also there is another major problem my phone wont charge.the second i connect the charger the phone tries to turn on and returns back to the black screen,
please help
glenzac said:
the soft brick software will not do as i can access odin
so can someone please help me to go ahead with odin
what files would i require?
also there is another major problem my phone wont charge.the second i connect the charger the phone tries to turn on and returns back to the black screen,
please help
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MAN did you installed driver as i said? when its showing Samsung USB comosite device --> flash stock rom with odin. S5300 Stock firmwares make sure to have your region
Your phone has to b connected in "download" mode (by pressing the 3 button combo)
If you cant enter download mode? release battery and connect phone to pc with usb cable then press Vol- and home and power and put back in battery while. Your computer should get the device.
you flash stockrom using odin.
Sry for that complicated chat, but its not that easy using a browser based chat for that. Also you got more then 1 person tell what to do. Seems not workin that good...
So if something is still not cleat, may be install GTalk for easier chat or teamviewer that i can "show" what i mean.
regards
no luck
LS.xD said:
MAN did you installed driver as i said? when its showing Samsung USB comosite device --> flash stock rom with odin. S5300 Stock firmwares make sure to have your region
Your phone has to b connected in "download" mode (by pressing the 3 button combo)
If you cant enter download mode? release battery and connect phone to pc with usb cable then press Vol- and home and power and put back in battery while. Your computer should get the device.
you flash stockrom using odin.
Sry for that complicated chat, but its not that easy using a browser based chat for that. Also you got more then 1 person tell what to do. Seems not workin that good...
So if something is still not cleat, may be install GTalk for easier chat or teamviewer that i can "show" what i mean.
regards
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sorry for responding late i tried all that you said but no luck.
i am beginning to suspect it is the problem of the cable or of the phones jack
Hey ,
Just install Kies and uninstall that USB driver . Download files exept .pit and try again . If boot is force closing , go to recovory mode . It should work . Worked in my case
Sent from my GT-S5300 using xda app-developers app
sorry everyone for the late reply
I had gone on a long trip on my way back I also bought an USB cable then it worked perfect ,and I flashed stock Rom with Odin. Alright
Thanks
Now I have a new query can I upgrade my galaxy pocket to jelly bean.
Please help
I recently acquired an LG P880. It's a neat little phone that can even be flashed with KitKat.
I was looking to flash a Cyanogen nightly over it,which reportedly ran amazingly.
I tried to do this from the old TWRP that it came with. It was version 2.20 I believe.
I kept running into an error, which a quick Google search revealed was due to an old version of TWRP. Because I don't have a computer handy, I couldn't flash TWRP over via PC. So I opted to flash over PhilZ Recovery. (philz_touch_6.48.4-p880.zip)
I flashed this from the old TWRP. Soft bricking the phone.
The recovery is totally busted. Even though it said that it flashed successfully and suggested I reboot the phone.
When I go into PhilZ recovery when I click or touch something or select any action the screen only flashes for an instant and sometimes I get the error repeatedly: "Aroma file manager not found - clockworkmod/aroma/aroma.zip not found"
I can't select anything. The only thing I can do is reboot. Not a single option works at all.
So basically my recovery is bricked. I also have no operating system on the phone so I can't reflash recovery that way. I won't have a computer for 2 months either (I'm travelling the world) so is there ANYTHING I can do with just this phone and another phone to reflash the recovery of at least put an OS on the phone or something?
Does anyone have any ideas? I am currently in the process of uploading a video detailing the problem.
leijonasisu said:
I recently acquired an LG P880. It's a neat little phone that can even be flashed with KitKat.
I was looking to flash a Cyanogen nightly over it,which reportedly ran amazingly.
I tried to do this from the old TWRP that it came with. It was version 2.20 I believe.
I kept running into an error, which a quick Google search revealed was due to an old version of TWRP. Because I don't have a computer handy, I couldn't flash TWRP over via PC. So I opted to flash over PhilZ Recovery. (philz_touch_6.48.4-p880.zip)
I flashed this from the old TWRP. Soft bricking the phone.
The recovery is totally busted. Even though it said that it flashed successfully and suggested I reboot the phone.
When I go into PhilZ recovery when I click or touch something or select any action the screen only flashes for an instant and sometimes I get the error repeatedly: "Aroma file manager not found - clockworkmod/aroma/aroma.zip not found"
I can't select anything. The only thing I can do is reboot. Not a single option works at all.
So basically my recovery is bricked. I also have no operating system on the phone so I can't reflash recovery that way. I won't have a computer for 2 months either (I'm travelling the world) so is there ANYTHING I can do with just this phone and another phone to reflash the recovery of at least put an OS on the phone or something?
Does anyone have any ideas? I am currently in the process of uploading a video detailing the problem.
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Check an app called flashify, you can flash recovery with it in ROM. So download whatever recovery you want for our phone and flash it in. I hope this will resolve you problems, ofc you have to be rooted
If your recovery is broken in the way you say it, there is nothing you can do without a PC.Just go to a cybercafe and restore to stock ROM using lg mobile support tool.Won't take any longer than 1 hour (with downloading etc. included)
Hi thanks for your suggestion but I think you missed the part where I don't have an operating system on the phone.
The phone has a broken/bricked recovery and no OS. So when I turn I on normally it just boot loops because it has nothing installed. So I don't have a way to do that either.
I was hoping for something like pushing an auto execute script to SD card that flashes the recovery the moment the SD card is mounted or something...
So I made some progress.
I can access a terminal emulator in PhilZ recovery and the Aroma File Manager. But I can't install a .zip from either of them And when I try and run 'su' I get permission denied (obviously not rooted). Same when I run 'adb'. Which is weird because I can make new folders and move files to the root folder '/' in aroma. I just can't do that via terminal emulator :/ =(I was thinking about installing a recovery.img via that, which was pushed to the /sdcard)
There's an' install' command available but I don't think that will help. It seems for some reason the recovery hasn't got the correct screen resolution for my phone. Everything is squished and I have to tap on blank parts of the screen where apparently the keyboard is, but in actuality it's showed far above squashed into the side of the screen...
So, so far all I have is a terminal emulator (with no root) and a file manager with root (supposedly).
Picture here: http://imgur.com/LcClAL1
You need pc for that, try fastboot method if that possible in your case.
Ok so if I can somehow get access to a computer. How do I go about doing this?
I want the latest cyanogen nightly on the P880. (I have 16/12 which is good enough). Also I obviously need a custom recovery. So if PhilZ doesn't work. Maybe TWRP?
What divers and etc do I have to worry about if I only have an hour? I'd rather download the files on my phone and just quickly use them when I get the chance on a PC.
Does anyone know the flashing process for LG? (I only have had Samsung phones in the past)
The bottom guide on this: http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/240 states that the phone needs to be in 'Debugging Mode' but I don't have an OS on the phone to put it in debugging mode...
So I guess I need a computer too that I have access to cmd.exe
That's not going to be easy where I am... Most places (if I can even find one) will probably have that disabled to users.
Search for FASTBOOT method on forum or with google to flash recovery, i use cwm recovery and i suggest you to install cwm.
I will sent you pm where to download cwm recovery file for LGP880.
And than it will be easy to install os. First do that and we will see.
You need ADB drivers for pc, you need LGP880 driver from official website.
@leijonasisu
I'm gonna help you out only because you have limited access to PC.
Download LG mobile support tool http://lg-support-tool.en.lo4d.com/ install usb driver of 4x hd with phone not being plugged into PC
Click options > "restore from update error (best translation I Can come up with) and wait till it's done
Root your phone (I think I used this to root before http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230934 ONLY ROOT DONT DO ANYTHING ELSE)
I'm using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481929 adam's twrp recovery even though I don't use multirom it's installation etc. is simple imo.
Download flashify from play store and flash the ".img" file (TWRP).
Wipe dalvik cache, cache, data, system and flash the CM nightly.
If you want to thank me for this post, do it by helping other people out.
Thanks for the replies. I've added thanks. Unfortunately the only access I can get to a computer currently is an iMac without Admin privileges. Any attempt to install anything or install 'adb' or reboot into 'fastboot' requires a password which I don't have.
Life seems to be laughing at me.
I got access to a computer and followed the LG Mobile Support Tool steps. But I keep getting this error:
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The phone is in S/W Upgrade mode. Connected via USB and I have tried multiple USB ports.
I installed the drivers from the LG support site for the P880. It finds the phone, but can't verify what it is. So I put the IMEI number (or mode and #SN) in and it goes to check Windows version and conflicting programs and then gives that error.
Is there some other way I can flash this thing with a new Firmware, or at least a new Recovery?
Also the phone seems to have that yellow triangle next to something called "APX" and when that APX is in Device Manager the screen is just black (Not S/W Mode)
Also if I try and turn the phone on normally (where the charging battery comes up) there's a device "Android" that pops up for a second with another yellow triangle in Device Manager.
So it seems that the Fastboot driver or something isn't installed?
Guys can you please help me out. I only have access to this computer for 3 days
I also haven't been able to find the device with 'adb devices' from CMD prompt. I don't think the ADB driver is installed or something and I can't find it to do 'adb reboot oem-unlock' :/
P.S. My Bootloader IS Unlocked.
Follow thsi tutorial,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069723
Good Luck
Hi there, thanks so much for your reply.
When I try do follow that tutorial I get this error:
I've tried:
1. These drivers (and other kinds):
2. Different USB cables
3. Different USB ports.
4. Modem disabled, and then modem enabled in Device Manager
5. Rebooting
6. Laptop has latest updates, MSXL, NET Framework etc. etc. etc.
Nothing sees to be working. It cannot find my phone.. I guess it is a driver issue or something because when the phone is in S/W mode it simply cannot be detected by the flashing programs.
When I install those drivers. 3 devices pop up. They all install without any problems, but for some reason those programs still can't see this phone.
This is getting ridiculous. What am I missing here?
P.S. Before you ask, I have been googling around before asking here. Maybe these problems seem small and easily fixable to some of you but to be honest they are wasting my days away, nothing seems to be working and my girlfriend is getting furious at me.
I only have 2 days left with a computer until I am without one again for over a month...
I just saw on xda that someone had simillar problem to yours and the problem was in pc...
And another solution is
I was found this on net.
"Often you may require an update for the OS in your pc. Check windows update for a google fastboot update. I had the same issue and after installing the update it worked fine - I'm running win 7 ultimate. Also disable both LG modem drivers in your device manager so it will pick up the phone itself rather than see it as a modem accessory. "
leijonasisu said:
Hi there, thanks so much for your reply.
When I try do follow that tutorial I get this error:
I've tried:
1. These drivers (and other kinds):
2. Different USB cables
3. Different USB ports.
4. Modem disabled, and then modem enabled in Device Manager
5. Rebooting
6. Laptop has latest updates, MSXL, NET Framework etc. etc. etc.
Nothing sees to be working. It cannot find my phone.. I guess it is a driver issue or something because when the phone is in S/W mode it simply cannot be detected by the flashing programs.
When I install those drivers. 3 devices pop up. They all install without any problems, but for some reason those programs still can't see this phone.
This is getting ridiculous. What am I missing here?
P.S. Before you ask, I have been googling around before asking here. Maybe these problems seem small and easily fixable to some of you but to be honest they are wasting my days away, nothing seems to be working and my girlfriend is getting furious at me.
I only have 2 days left with a computer until I am without one again for over a month...
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Easiest would be to try on different computer, I have same problems on laptop, so I have to use family PC for thins like that. Just install drivers on it run kdz flashing and that is it
Thanks for both of your replies. I have one other computer I can try here for this last day, I will try that. It's a PC.
I'll install the latest drivers for the P880 from the LG support site, then disable any 'modem' stuff in Device Manager and try flashing the .kdz again.
I can't believe this has been so much trouble.. It is true that currently I am trying to do this on a laptop, perhaps a PC is what I need.
This laptop has Windows 8.1 and the PC has Windows 7. Perhaps that will make the difference I need.
Fingers, toes and everything else crossed and deep breaths.
Success finally!!!!!
SUCCESS!!!!
First I installed the latest drivers for the P880 like I said I would. (With phone unplugged)
I used an i7 Windows 7 Ultimate PC with latest updates.
Here are the devices that were installed:
And in Device Manager:
(I disabled the Modem one and then rebooted before flashing)
This flashing program did NOT work:
(note the .kdz file I used to flash for reference (it works))
So I tried this flashing program:
(note the options I selected etc. and EMERGENCY MODE)
WARNING!! IT WILL POP UP WITH AN ERROR SAYING #SERVER NOT FOUND# (this error window was hidden on the left side of the image/screen)
YOU MUST NOT CLICK 'OK' OR THE FLASHING WILL STOP. IT IS STILL ACTUALLY FLASHING IN THE BACKGROUND
Waaaaiitt...
When the process stops, the program crashes (as shown in above picture)
BUT SUCCESS!!! THE PHONE IS REBOOTED AND FLASHED TO STOCK!!
(my friend's camera sucks)
Now I just root with Towelroot or whatever.
Install flashify and then install CWM and then I flash over to Cyanogen 4.4 Nightly!
I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!
Looks like I just needed a PC running Win 7.
P.S. Feel free to use this method in guides or whatever to fix your phone.
Thanks again <3
Good Morning Guys,
I have Redmi 4X 64GB version. The phone has unlocked bootloader and was running on Havoc OS V2.5 and the phone was rooted.
About a week ago the phone is suddenly got into weird state. And i am unable to figure out what to do.
The phone is gotten into Linux Penguin Logo. I am attaching an image with that problem. And also phone in not responding to any physical power+volume button integration. Any combination just takes me to this Penguin Screen. Here are some thing i have already tried to do but not working at all. Although when i connect this device to computer with this Penguin Logo screen it does get detected as fastboot device but so far that isn't helping.
Some tricks that i have already tried but not working:-
1. I have booted my phone into edl mode and installed fastboot rom via miflash tool, and it is successfully installed but after pressing power+volume button it is the same screen as Penguin Logo. [so Not Working]
2. I have opened the phone disconnect the battery and tried some combinations but still no luck.
3. Used every combination with power button as well as connected to pc and used fastboot commands but not working out.
4. TWRP installation get failed. ( will attach the preview).
So, Please anyone has any clue or anyone has ever face this same problem please reach out to me. Any Honect answer will work.
Sorry i am new at writing thread. So if any mistake i am sorry.
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If you still have custom recovery installed then try flashing latest firmware.
i've found this similar having issue video on youtube of Redmi 3S(Appears to be) and how it got solved, please check it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMZ08qQrqnc
i am not sure if those files are limited to Redmi 3S or can be use on other xiaomi devices but it gives some sort of idea what you should try. and video language i don't understand and maybe you understand maybe not but should be understandable by watching video.
Thanks for replying. But that is the problem i am unable to reach anywhere not bootloader nor recovery. The phone is just showing the linux penguin logo whether you use power and volume combination or you do the same via connecting to pc.
I think he has that download link in description. But that link requires password for opening .rar file. And i do not trust that guy. That file may have some bloatware or virus or something. If you find same file that he has please share that file over here so that i can use it.
Thanks.
SafvanShaikh said:
I think he has that download link in description. But that link requires password for opening .rar file. And i do not trust that guy. That file may have some bloatware or virus or something. If you find same file that he has please share that file over here so that i can use it.
Thanks.
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Did you solve the problem? I'm stuck in it and after trying all the things (including deciphering that rar file very doubtful, which I did not achieve) I'm empty of ideas
try to put the phone in edl mode...open the phone case and disconnect the battery wire..if u have tweezer then try touching it to testpoints and then plug the usb cable at the same time...a driver will install on ur computer named (qdloader9008)....open miflash tool then try flashing it via the tool...
Time to use Device as Paper Weight
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victorkorp1999 said:
Did you solve the problem? I'm stuck in it and after trying all the things (including deciphering that rar file very doubtful, which I did not achieve) I'm empty of ideas
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Sorry Bro, Nothing is working at all. I mean i am IT Engineer and i have tried all things but still no luck. So, my thinking is the boot loader is too much damaged so there is nothing that can be written on it, no TWRP or no any data partition, it's all out of option. I have started using the phone as Paper Weight.
I am still hoping that someone can solve this problem and get back to me. Fingers Crossed
Thank You.
Not Working, Already tried:
jerry.07 said:
try to put the phone in edl mode...open the phone case and disconnect the battery wire..if u have tweezer then try touching it to testpoints and then plug the usb cable at the same time...a driver will install on ur computer named (qdloader9008)....open miflash tool then try flashing it via the tool...
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Sorry Bros, Already tried all things that you have mentioned in the post and its not working at all. If somehow we can change the memory storage chip on the phone that contains the bootloader then the phone can come back to its normal form.
Try to turn fastboot if you turn this on then you are on good situation . Boot TWRP and try installing rom again ( with wiping data, cache,vendor,system,dalvik,and might internal storage)
Your problem solved or still u r stuck?
To answer your question, yeah i got it done. Actually where i live, there is repair shop guy that i know he got it done for just 500rs. I don't know how he do that.
Here is my own tested solution for you !
In my case, when i try to install boot logo on Redmi 5 then this happened.
And yet last . i find the great solution by Miassistant
.1. Download Miassistant on PC
2. Download ADB Driver for your Pc
3. Download (Recovery Rom) not Fastboot Rom
5. press volume up + Power for (Miassistant mode)
6. Flash from Miassistant
Thanks for the solution. My device is already fixed, but i this solution can work. If something like this happens in future we can try this out. But i really wanna know what causes this thing to be happened?
Xiaomi Mi 5s Plus stuck in Linux icon FIXED
SafvanShaikh said:
Thanks for the solution. My device is already fixed, but i this solution can work. If something like this happens in future we can try this out. But i really wanna know what causes this thing to be happened?
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Sorry if this is not the place for post this, but I read a lot of cases that people have their phones stuck in Linux Icon, after a fail installing a ROM, this same case happened to me in a Xiaomi Mi 5 S Plus, one of the devices of Xiaomi, with less support because there were not to much units manufactered.
In mi case, after try to put the device in the fastboot mode, that was impossible I had to put the MI5 s Plus in EDL mode, using the 2 test points pins in the motherboard, and using Miflash for instal a fastboot rom.
I ll explain the steps;
A- Install MiFlash, in your computer, with all the drivers
B-Download a stable Fastboot ROM for your device, you can find it easily in the forums. ( In my case was the "natrium_global_images_V10.2.4.0.OBGMIXM_20190424.0000.00_8.0_global_07f157530a" with MIUI 10 for the Xiaomi MI5 S Plus (natrium) )
C- Put your device in EDL mode
Normally if you are stuck in the linux mode, this is your only solution for put the device in EDL mode, use the 2 test points in the motherboard of the phone.
Check in internet, where are located the test pins in your device, is different for every model. ( I attached a image of the 2 test points in Mi 5 S Plus)
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For put the device in EDL mode:
1- Disassemble the back cover of your phone
2- Disconect the battery
3- Connect the usb cable to the phone, but not connect yet to the computer
4-Use something metallic, like a clip, wire, or tweezers, and touch the 2 Test points at the same time in the motherboard and while you re touching this 2 points connect the USB to the computer
5-You ll hear the sound in the computer that recognizes a new device conected, after that you can remove the clip or wire from touching the 2 points in the board of the phone
6-Open Miflash and have to appear a device connected like COM...., If don´t appear , you can make the process again (there is no problem if you make the steps with the MIflash open)
7- Select the option Flash all (clean all) in Miflash for install the fastboot rom
8- If some error appears during the installation, check the fastboot rom, I ll try 2 or 3 differents versions before one that was completely installed without error
9- If the installation is correct, your phone will be restart, and take some minutes for the first boot after the installation.
In my case, with this device and other Xiaomi devices, to put the phone in EDL mode, and install a stable official fastboot rom, was the only solution for this kind of software problems, I hope this post help someone
bro i have the same problem i need get my data how can i get back please help i have my grandmother lst pics in it
SafvanShaikh said:
To answer your question, yeah i got it done. Actually where i live, there is repair shop guy that i know he got it done for just 500rs. I don't know how he do that.
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bro data recover hoaa ke nahi please tell me
SafvanShaikh said:
To answer your question, yeah i got it done. Actually where i live, there is repair shop guy that i know he got it done for just 500rs. I don't know how he do that.
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without data loss..., please fast reply given my redmi 3s prime mobile this type problem I attached charging and show bird logo no any start... please contact me 9106142185
Hi guys I am new to Android as you can see otherwise I wouldn't have touched one of these fake tablets at all , but the price looked good and it was for a Christmas gift to a child who would most likely drop it on the first day so took a chance. BIG mistake it wouldnt accept Family link or any decent Child security apps so it was basically useless , I watched a video on how to upgrade it and to check what system was installed it was supposed to be Android 9 it was in fact KitKat 4.4.2 so I followed the video ( to the letter ) and now it only loops the android logo . I can't find any firmware for it and am not even sure what manufacturer has the cheek to put their or it's brand to it , but I have persevered and not yet thrown it against the wall ( but i'm frikin close to it ) so please can anyone point me in the right direction to unbrick this Marvel of a Chinese Puzzle ( honestly it makes a Rubik Cube look easy ) I would be eternally grateful as would my wife who didnt know I knew so many swear words as I am 68 she should have known I had a few up my sleave lol so looking for a MTK6582 scatter file and firmware for a TS-M704A (10" model ) board marked as ZLM10 Thanks guys .
hi, i am not much of a expert but it seems you have messed up something wrong in the tablet.
i would need some information about tablet to help you.
1) is it still on stock rom?
2) can you go to recovery mode just by pressing power button simultaneously with either volume up or volume down button
3) it any thing shown in pc (windows) inside control panel when tablet is connected with usb.
Hi Bhanu no nothing visible on tablet no access to any system , when conected to PC MTK port shows on com15 but the tablet does not show in My Pc as a mass storage or anything. If I plug in aniother tablet I have it shows up on my pc , but with this one nothing at all . The board is a ZL10-MB V3.2 Arm cortex 7 cpu and I think its an MTK MT6582 but not sure but that is what most specs say for this tablet . When SP-Flash plugged in it says no partion and times out , only firmware I have ben able to find fot it off Leaktite is corrupted plus the logo is no longer looping it's a brick .. Regards Clive
clives40 said:
Hi Bhanu no nothing visible on tablet no access to any system , when conected to PC MTK port shows on com15 but the tablet does not show in My Pc as a mass storage or anything. If I plug in aniother tablet I have it shows up on my pc , but with this one nothing at all . The board is a ZL10-MB V3.2 Arm cortex 7 cpu and I think its an MTK MT6582 but not sure but that is what most specs say for this tablet . When SP-Flash plugged in it says no partion and times out , only firmware I have ben able to find fot it off Leaktite is corrupted plus the logo is no longer looping it's a brick .. Regards Clive
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Hi, clives good news after searching for hours on russian forms i found your tables frimware just made for your tablet so
first thing to do is install mtk device drivers/ flash tool driver in to your computer
secondly download SP_Flash_Tool_v5.1636_Win i recommend this version because it works without error
thirdly download the frimware of your phone from link https://androidhost.ru/2CKf
fourthly remove battery to make sure phone is switch of
finaly connect good usb cable to tablet and loadup sp flash tool flash frimware and abra ka dabra your tablet is working again
and ya be happy.
to add extra help here are website for drives
1) mtk drivers
Download MTK USB All Drivers for Windows (Official MediaTek Drivers)
Download the latest version of MTK USB All Drivers (MediaTek Driver) to connect any MediaTek Device with the Windows Computer.
androidmtk.com
note:- if you are using windows 10 then there would be problem with installing drivers as these are not updated for it so what you need to do is
go to settings in windows 10
and go to update and security
then select recovery tab
then click advanced restart option. as seen in image
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then you pc will restart and when start it will show advanced recovery option where you need to select
then select startup settings as seen in image
then select option 7 disable driver signature enforcement
then proceed to start windows
the process is bit lengthy but believe me it worth it .
after this you need to extract driver pack downloaded from link https://androidmtk.com/download-mtk-usb-all-drivers
then open folder vcom drivers
you will see a file name mtk_sp_usb2ser.inf just right click on it to install it manually
after all this just download spflash tool from link bellow do not use any other version
SP Flash Tool v5.1636 for Windows - MediaTek Flash Tool
Download SP Flash Tool v5.1636 to flash or install Stock Firmware ROM (Flash File) on the devices powered by Mediatek Chipset.
spflashtools.com
after it just download the frimware from the link
https://androidhost.ru/2CKf
extract it and use spflash tool to flash the rom.
if it work do not say thanks just do some thing good for any other person who need help.
Bhanu8082 said:
to add extra help here are website for drives
1) mtk drivers
Download MTK USB All Drivers for Windows (Official MediaTek Drivers)
Download the latest version of MTK USB All Drivers (MediaTek Driver) to connect any MediaTek Device with the Windows Computer.
androidmtk.com
note:- if you are using windows 10 then there would be problem with installing drivers as these are not updated for it so what you need to do is
go to settings in windows 10
and go to update and security
then select recovery tab
then click advanced restart option. as seen in image
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then you pc will restart and when start it will show advanced recovery option where you need to select
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then select startup settings as seen in image
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then select option 7 disable driver signature enforcement
then proceed to start windows
the process is bit lengthy but believe me it worth it .
after this you need to extract driver pack downloaded from link https://androidmtk.com/download-mtk-usb-all-drivers
then open folder vcom drivers
you will see a file name mtk_sp_usb2ser.inf just right click on it to install it manually
after all this just download spflash tool from link bellow do not use any other version
SP Flash Tool v5.1636 for Windows - MediaTek Flash Tool
Download SP Flash Tool v5.1636 to flash or install Stock Firmware ROM (Flash File) on the devices powered by Mediatek Chipset.
spflashtools.com
after it just download the frimware from the link
https://androidhost.ru/2CKf
extract it and use spflash tool to flash the rom.
if it work do not say thanks just do some thing good for any other person who need help.
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Hi Bhanu no luck I'm afraid the sp comes back with the message time out , computer is detecting and stable so now I'm completely lost. but thanks for trying to help regards Clive.
are you sure giving up so early ????
if decided to try once again, check if pc detects phone or not
how?
simple,
connect your phone and open control panel go to device manager and see if there is any vcom driver connected or not
Hi Bhanu yes the tablet does show up in the device manager and isn't jumping in and out so no interupt to connection , it just keeps timing out when plugged back in to pc on download from Flashtool. I am thinking maybe the sd is locked or damaged I don't know , been reading up a bit on these and many have had the same problems with this model just basically a load of junk lol but if you have any ideas I will more than gladly try them .regards Clive
yes you are right when i searched for your phone i found that flash drive is missing in it so tablet will not work now.
but you can try resetting it through recovery if not then its just useless.
Yeah but the only way you can do that with these phones/tablet/ dung pile lol is to have ad debugging which without a system in it you're screwed ? so I think I'm going to use it as a Frisbee ha ha . whatever you do do not buy any tablets from a company called well 4 shopping UK . Not only are they not in the UK so delivery times are ridiculous but they lie through their teeth , I suppose my own fault for buying from ebay lol thanks anyway Bhana
your help was much appreciated regards Clive PS if I ever do crack it I will let you know ..