After seeing the deal on ebay for a 200$ nook i am really tempted to take the plunge, however i do have some questions if someone would be willing to oblige
1: how is the speed/ stability? do you see longterm support for this from the community and eventual stable honeycomb, 2.3, 2.2, ect?
2: I read somewhere that their is no app market on it; can this be remedied?
3: would it be worth getting this tablet or should i save and get one of the newly announced ones (Xoom, G Slate, ect)
4: how well does it handle games? like dungeon defenders?
1: how is the speed/ stability? do you see longterm support for this from the community and eventual stable honeycomb, 2.3, 2.2, ect?
The nook is pretty speddy by default at 800mhz, however it can be much faster with an overclocked kernel, when overclocking Speed is very comparable to my g2, at 1.1 ghz (my g2 is clocked at 1.5)
2: I read somewhere that their is no app market on it; can this be remedied?
On the Official Rom from barnes and noble, only with root access, with root you can install the market and start downloading stuff, however BN has also mentioned a future update with a BN app store.
3: would it be worth getting this tablet or should i save and get one of the newly announced ones (Xoom, G Slate, ect)
As nice as the new honeycomb Tablets are, i haven't seen one dip under 500$, but overall it really depends what your looking for. If your not looking for a camera, and 3g connectivity, and what something that just works, The nooks a great choice, i mainly use it for email, web browsing reading and the occasional game, so the nook was a great choice for me. However it still really depends what your looking for
4: how well does it handle games? like dungeon defenders?
Games run extremely well for an Ereader Dungeon defenders runs better than it does on my G2!, looks and feels great, and there hasn't been a game that it has chugged on yet!
Pyrot1c said:
1: how is the speed/ stability? do you see longterm support for this from the community and eventual stable honeycomb, 2.3, 2.2, ect?
The nook is pretty speddy by default at 800mhz, however it can be much faster with an overclocked kernel, when overclocking Speed is very comparable to my g2, at 1.1 ghz (my g2 is clocked at 1.5)
2: I read somewhere that their is no app market on it; can this be remedied?
On the Official Rom from barnes and noble, only with root access, with root you can install the market and start downloading stuff, however BN has also mentioned a future update with a BN app store.
3: would it be worth getting this tablet or should i save and get one of the newly announced ones (Xoom, G Slate, ect)
As nice as the new honeycomb Tablets are, i haven't seen one dip under 500$, but overall it really depends what your looking for. If your not looking for a camera, and 3g connectivity, and what something that just works, The nooks a great choice, i mainly use it for email, web browsing reading and the occasional game, so the nook was a great choice for me. However it still really depends what your looking for
4: how well does it handle games? like dungeon defenders?
Games run extremely well for an Ereader Dungeon defenders runs better than it does on my G2!, looks and feels great, and there hasn't been a game that it has chugged on yet!
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You sir are a gentleman and a scholar! thanks for pushing me over the edge!
Your Very Welcome
Out of curiosity, how is the battery life on this device with the phiremod v4 rom/OC'd kernel I see in the development section? I have an Evo, so I'm used to pretty poor battery life, but I'd rather not be scrambling for a charger every ten minutes.
i dont use cm7 on mine as of yet, but on nookie foryo, i get a good 6-8 hours depending on usage. also remember to use setcpu to bring down the clock when screen is off and such.
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I was trying to find a decent cheap tablet but it seams that is not gonna happen at the moment. I have read the nook color is actauly quit the good tablet. My main concern is gameing though and the nook isnt speced vey high. Ho does it run higher end games such as Dungeon Defenders and Spectral souls.
OC...
All the thing I can say about this device is that it's worth for $250 NOW.
If you have more money (over $500), just wait...not worth to buy GT yet(compare to NC)
It seem like I miss the point...
Game?
On Android?
Nothing can beat NC yet...
Check this video out
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXEZJSMrU1I"
But I can promise nothing about the future... Bunch of cool games will come out after Honeycomb...
In conclusion, NC is the best choice now. Otherwise just wait about 3 month...
Well although i admit android doesnt have tons of good games yet there is a decent amount of games i like to play on android. I should refrase i would like a decent android tablet for a nice price and it would be nice if it could run higher demandinng games then my Lg Optimus V. Im not interested on spending 500 dollars and up on a tablet i realy dont want to spend 250 as i dont have a ton of money to spend. Im either think the NC or a Kyros. I could always upgrade down the road im looking at buying a tablet in the next few weeks.
Then NC will be your best choice...It can do lots more than game...
I guess it's the best choice under $500...
Kinda off topic but hows the overall perfomence of the nook color then. Can it run live wallpapers. It seems higher speced then the LG Optimus V is this correct?
I haven't seen any slow down in any game yet. Most android games are designed with a specific resolution and android doesn't scale like iOS so you have game that doesn't take up full screen. There are still a lot of game with scaling. Nowadays developers make games for the medium spec android devices so a Nook Color will run everything fine. You do get some certain games that won't play on NC because of android fragmentation.
I play Angry Birds on the NC, and it looks fine. I confess I could not get opengl screensavers to run on it, but that may be because I am an android noob.
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The Nook Color is actually very well spec'd for a tablet of its price and Android tablets in general. Its CPU/GPU is very good and runs, even on stock, most games (I play) without a hiccup. Pocket Legends is smooth as silk, all of my emulators and ROMs play without any lag or issues, and Angry Birds is good times. Not the games you're asking about specifically, but I don't see why they wouldn't run well.
My G/F's mother works for B&N so I'm going to see if she can get a good discount on a new or refurbished unit but before I do I wanted to ask a few questions. I was thinking of getting the SGT 10.1 inch or the Moto Xoom in Wifi only flavors.
I basically want to know how the Nook color performs for games such as Angry Birds, Ninja Jump without OC'ing. I basically will use this tablet for Evernote, Pandora, Browsing, Facebook, XDA, Organizing Pictures, etc.
What do you guys think the life cycle of this device will be? If a newer update for HC comes out do you think that the current hardware may support possible feature adds (example: video editor that google built for HC).
I asked the rep in the store about the internal memory and he said it had 5GB internal and supports up to 32GB. I googled the specs and it says the Nook has 8GB. Which one is it?
Thanks.
NC has 8GB internal but only 5GB are free OOB. non-OC plays games great.
If you can get a discount on a refurb, what do you think you'll be paying? Maybe $150ish? Maybe a bit more? Let's put things in perspective and keep in mind that, though the NC is overdesigned and overpowered as a reader, it's not being sold as an alternative to the Galaxy or (most definitely) the Xoom.
Performance-wise, it holds up well against the Galaxy. The screen is better. It boots a heck of a lot faster. It's likely not going to fare as well against the Xoom. But it's a fraction of the price.
For the price and for the joy of tinkering and pushing the limits, the NC is, far and away, the best value you can get *now* -- it's even better if you can get a substantial discount. Just know that it will be outperformed by several other tablets in the coming months. I doubt there will be anything competitive, at this price level, any time soon.
Make the jump now. Come on in, the water's fine.
Yeah I'm not too worried about it competing against dual core and camera equipped tablets. I have an Evo 4G so I don't need to have those features. I just want to know the possibility to get HC running efficiently.
I think a refurbished unit should run me below $200 so it isn't too bad. Just wanted to know what you guys think of the dev community on this Nook being that so many others are coming out.
I was in a similar boat and dove right into the Nook. It's only been a few days and I'm happy I did it.
Xoom is $550 more since you don't want a contract. I debated on going with a larger tablet such as the iPad or a 10.1 inch android. Ultimately, I found that they were too large and heavy for real, everyday use. I like being able to use the Nook with one hand.
FYI, I'm using mine to take handwritten notes (using a stylus), reading pdfs, websurfing and the occasional game.
I'm in a similar boat and had 2 quick questions:
1) Hows video playback with your typical 700mb avi file with apps like vplayer or rockplayer? Has froyo or cm7 improved things?
2) What app were people using to take notes with a stylus and how well does it work?
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1) I haven't avi files - I've been using m4v files with 1300 video bitrate and 128 bit audio on Act 1. It's been a great success so far.
2) I've been using HandMemoWritter. It's free and other programs have problems losing data when you change orientation (genial writing and apMemo). HMW is a bit basic, but it works well.
Thanks Wile E Coyote.
I think I may pull the trigger on this. I have to check out the dev section for HC to see how far they have progressed.
The good thing is that the GPU is the same one they use in the Droid X.
Briefly tried vPlayer and Rockplayer and wasn't satisfied with performance. Stock video player plays H.264 encoded MP4's well as long as they conform to the resolution specs of the device (854 pixel width). I've setup a default profile for my Nook Color in Handbrake and my bluray rips to 854 pixel width H.264 videos are amazing on the nook.
I don't have much experience with android devices yet, have had the nook for 3 weeks now, but IMO for video playback nothing beats VLC on a jailbroken iOS device for the shear ability to drag and drop things onto the device and play them back with nearly complete disregard for the format they're in.
3 weeks ago I was still hoping for news on iPad 2, and wishing for a Motorola Xoom. Xoom pricing was leaked and I jumped ship for a Nook Color instead. No regrets, as at this price point I could easily give this thing away to my wife or son and get a better tablet down the road without worrying about the price I paid for it.
It's fun to drop bootable images to micro SD cards and try out different operating systems too. Once all the kinks are worked out for Froyo or HC i'll surely change the primary boot system on mine. Developers working on nook color mods are fantastic, huge props to them!
iPad2 is supposed to be announced on March 3, according to All Things Digital.
I feel so dirty.
Honestly I don't see the iPad 2 as being anything special. They'll most likely add a FFC and Rear camera and more ram.
The price is going to go up if they add a retina display.
the nook color rooted and such will be the casual mans tablet. For mobile use as a notepad its great. Lightweight easy to hold and use. Also for it being the size it is you can hold in two hands and type with out over-reaching(i am a big guy so YMMV but my long fingers...)
for gaming it works pretty well. I did get my copy of nova over on it and it works pretty well. but some games will not work not sure if its the screen size but some just fc
The video playback is pretty good for me. I run Slingplayer and PlayOn for Netflix/Hulu stuff and it is good enough. The CM7 build as it is today doesn't have hardware video support yet, so the Nookie Froyo (currently at 0.6.8) is a better option for video support. The stock nook 1.0.1 or 1.1 rooted also works pretty smoothly with video. So in short, Nooted or Nookie Froyo are the best daily driver options today, although I'm sure CM7 will be the next great thing when it gets to a more robust version.
Not to mention honeycomb
Sent from one of those missing Droids
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My G/F's mother works for B&N so I'm going to see if she can get a good discount on a new or refurbished unit but before I do I wanted to ask a few questions. I was thinking of getting the SGT 10.1 inch or the Moto Xoom in Wifi only flavors.
I basically want to know how the Nook color performs for games such as Angry Birds, Ninja Jump without OC'ing. I basically will use this tablet for Evernote, Pandora, Browsing, Facebook, XDA, Organizing Pictures, etc.
What do you guys think the life cycle of this device will be? If a newer update for HC comes out do you think that the current hardware may support possible feature adds (example: video editor that google built for HC).
I asked the rep in the store about the internal memory and he said it had 5GB internal and supports up to 32GB. I googled the specs and it says the Nook has 8GB. Which one is it?
Thanks.
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well right at this very moment if you want a semi stable hack to make your nook a HC tablet i suggest you get a nook but if you want something thats 100% stable and something that will work out of the box with no hackery involved i suggest you get a moto xoom
i own a nook color and i have no regrets about buying it, and i feel it has been the best thing i bought this year but it does require some work to make it a tablet(not much but its extra work none the less)
Watched an avi of "Saving Private Ryan" on the NC and ran beautifully. Earphone to listen but all in all it ran well.
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Watched an avi of "Saving Private Ryan" on the NC and ran beautifully. Earphone to listen but all in all it ran well.
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Can I ask what size and resolution the movie was formatted in, what app you were using and which ROM you're on?
Just that there are contrasting reports regarding video playback.
This is the only thing stopping me from getting one at the moment, as the Archos 101 is awesome in terms of movie playback (including live live streaming over your Wifi network from my PC).
Would love to hear people's feedback.
Hi all,
For those already using the LG 2x as their daily phone, may i just ask how's the performance in terms of daily usage? Some reviews says it's speedy, so does benchmarks but i have also read reviews that said it should be much better considering that it's dual core and at times, there's some slight stuttering due to the custom froyo skin that LG has.
I'm presently using a Nexus S and it's smooth as butter running custom roms and oc kernel. I'll probably be able to sell off the phone at no loss and top up something like USD120 to get the LG 2x when it arrives in Singapore in the next 2-3 weeks.
Anyone here that have tried both phones and able to provide me with some insights on if i should bother switching? How's the real life use (browsing net, playing music, batt life while playing games etc) difference felt between the processing powers of the two phones?
As it is, the Nexus S can do everything i want except for those Tegra 2 only games. I don't really need a 1080 HD video capability, HDMI mirroring and the 16 Gig space, although limiting is not a deal breaker for me.
Has there been any indications that it'll be able to run custom roms and kernel soon? i know paul from modaco is looking into it at the moment.
Thanks all!
Hi there, I'm also considering between Nexus S and Optimus 2x.
Would appreciate any feedbacks from the users here.
About custom roms - Paul said yesterday that today would be available beta of clockworkmod for download, everything seems that O2X will be great phone for custom roms and stuff Probably there will be functioning Clockwork Mod and developers cooking even before you even get your O2x )
It is lightning fast, and much faster than the Nexus S on stock 2.3. I know because I tried them side by side.
The reviews are correct though, there is some stuttering. I'd say it's annoying as hell, but I'm an impatient guy when it comes to tech-gadgets. I'm sure it's only software issues that will be addressed, either by LG or by custom ROM's.
Sometimes it takes about 5-10 seconds to open the apps list when adding them to the home screen, and sometimes it's as quick as expected.
Sometimes it will stutter while scrolling but most of the time it's smooth as butter. You can clearly tell that there's nothing wrong with the performance because of the smoothness, but there are undoubtedly some serious flaws in the implementation causing intermittent stutter that needs to be addressed.
Playing games is as smooth as I've ever seen. It's simply amazing; There's no stutter or lag AT ALL, so the stuttering you see in the menus seem to be fairly isolated. So far I have tested Angry Birds and AB Rio in addition to Fruit Ninja + Samurai II from Tegra Zone. Samurai II on the TV looks better than a Wii game and is closer to PS3 to be honest.
Another evidence of the incredible performance is the Gallery app. My jaw dropped to the floor when I saw how quick and smooth it is. My Nexus One is like an old Sony Ericsson with Symbian in comparison. If you haven't tried an SE phone with Symbian, consider yourself lucky.
One thing also worth considering is the fact that Froyo is not really optimised for DualCore phones. When gingerbread hits the LG 2x then the speed difference between it and other single core phones should become even more apparent.
the only problem i have with o2x is LG's poor implementation of the LG skin on it. LG's UI w/c i believe can easily be fixed by tweaks/updates or custom roms. that's why im quite happy that g2x will come with vanilla android froyo.
hope LG recognizes the 'MINOR' flaws and stuttering when on the menu/app drawer. but besides that, all other things like browsing, gaming, camera, texting, calling etc are Great and is superior than any other phones in the market as of the moment.
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One thing also worth considering is the fact that Froyo is not really optimised for DualCore phones. When gingerbread hits the LG 2x then the speed difference between it and other single core phones should become even more apparent.
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Gingerbread isn't currently optimized to take advantage of the dual core devices either... Hence the information about a version 2.4 of Gingerbread dropping in April. http://goo.gl/b7P0g
I had mine for 8 days now and Im still not used to how fast it is!
My last phone was a HTC Hero, wich I really cant compare it to, but I have played around a lot with iPhone 4, Samsung Galaxy S and Desire HD and my phone eat em for breakfast. Mutitasking games like Angry Birds and Reckless Drivning is really fast and smooth.
Even though 02X dont have 2D accelerated graphics and iPhone 4 does, the smoothness in the menus are pretty much the same.
Amazing fast phone used my old desire (moved to my wife) and it scared the heck out of me found it very slow go figure lol
My son and I uses both the 2x and coming from desires...
Love the screen over the amoled great quality only notice with black when playing not a full screen movie... But the again almost not seen this...
Browsing the net is great and fast deciding which browser to use dolphin mini or opera the latest with flash.
Actually we found the camera great and the sound is great too...
Running myself launcherpro and the diskspace room 1.45gb to store apps beside the sd.
That's what i hated with my desire lol 148 mb
Battery life is building up nice now after 12 days 38 hours normal usage and heavy 8 hours...
lol and we have gorilla glass too
Bottom line an amazing fast phone just love it.
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The stutter/lag I saw some of seems to be as good as gone after upgrading with all the latest stuff from MoDaCo.
Ok guys just a quick one... Checked out the phone for quite a bit at the retail shop...
First Impressions...
It's both fast & slow at times. However believe that this should be able to be addressed via software eg custom roms etc... Games tried all seem smooth. Opening of apps at times there was lag but it was somewhat random and can't quite pinpoint. Other times it was fast.
Installed Golauncher, ADW and LauncherPro and all seemed to work alright. Do note was just a quick one at the shop...
For those into it...
Quadrand Std - 2600 - 2700 +
Linpack Score - 36 MegaFlops...
Neocore - er sorry don't recall & first time running it... 75???
Nothing else really significant to say except that in a nutshell this phone has potential...
If anyone has both or had both, would you be able to answer a few questions?
I got a brand new ipad 1 for $280 and ended up selling it a few weeks ago because it really didnt meet my expectations for performance. I like Android OS better because of user customization ability and the widgets, which I use all the time. I dont like choosing between a million apps. I was very disappointed with the browser experience of the ipad 1. It was good for viewin 2-3 pages but after that, it would checker-board and also because of the limited ram (256mb) it would constantly refresh. Browsng on the ipad 1, was very minimal browsing, nothing that I can replace a netbook with. I think the Nook has 512mb ram which is the same as the ipad2....Also the ipad1 lacked multitasking (Even simple ones like chatting with someone on gchat and going back to my browser page) and notifications.
1) How does the browsing experience for the Nook compare to the ipad1?
2) With the new mods and tweaks, what about responsiveness?
I plan to use the tablet for watching movies, netflix when it comes out, browsing, gchat and multi-tasking all around with email and stuff. The ipad severely underperformed in that aspect and in the notification aspect. Basically, if it can do everything my stock mytouch4g phone can do (1ghz, 786mb ram), I will be happy.
3) Is the nook a legitimate replacement for an android tablet like the xoom? I mean considering the price + mods and tweaks, to someone who doesnt have one, it LOOKS good on youtube. BUt you never know how itll work out until soemone who used it tells you the truth.
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1) How does the browsing experience for the Nook compare to the ipad1?
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The biggest problem I have run into browsing involves sites automatically redirecting to the mobile versions although the NC is generally better off, at least in my opinion, with full versions. That is easily fixed with a few tweaks however. I have many times had 5-6 tabs open in Opera while listening to Pandora or an audio book in Mort Player and notice no slowdown.
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2) With the new mods and tweaks, what about responsiveness?
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Everything short of Dungeon Defenders runs with no apparent slowdown after proper setup, and it is only going to get faster as Dalingrin and others continue working on it. I can whip back and forth between all my pages of apps without seeing any hesitation or stuttering with 5 widgets on my main page and 10+ apps on every page.
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3) Is the nook a legitimate replacement for an android tablet like the xoom? I mean considering the price + mods and tweaks, to someone who doesnt have one, it LOOKS good on youtube. BUt you never know how itll work out until soemone who used it tells you the truth.
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To me, it definitely is. I frequently use my Nook for a few main tasks, all of which it handles perfectly in my experience.
1) RDP (I use Remote Desktop Client by Xtralogic)
2) Streaming video (UPNPlay + RockPlayer)
3) Audio books (Mort Player)
4) Web Browsing (Opera)
5) Remote control of media on my PC (MPC-HC Remote/VLC Remote)
6) Playing games (Angry Bird+Seasons+Rio, Stupid Zombies, Fruit Ninja, Words With Friends, Speed 3D FX, NES/SNES/GBA/GameGear/Genesis/PSX emulators)
7) lulz (FML, Cheezeburger, joke apps)
On an important note though, lacking 4G and GPS really annoys me, but I am planning on getting a Bionic whenever they finally release which tethering to should cover me for both of those.
I never had that many problems with the internet on the ipad. But I do not have a lot installed. I use the apps that came with it for most all my stuff. When I try to use other apps to copy files to it that’s when the problems started. after removing the files every thing is good. I have Angry Birds and other games running with no issues. The battery life is the same as the NC running CM7 off sdcard. All in all the nook color is very impressive for the price.
Awesome, thanks for the reply. It looks like with the overclock and some mods itll run just fine. I'm also looking into the archos tablets but I don't think they are as good as the nook in terms of support or getting honeycomb.
In all honesty I am a fan of android, and not a fanboy of apple...that being said...
I enjoy using my girlfriend's iPad, and if they weren't $500+ I would have bought one. After spending alittle over $250 on my nook color, I am VERY pleased with it.
I think my girlfriend is a little jealous too, especially when she sees me playing flash off the internet. I think the screen size is just perfect, and with the progress the developers have made on CM7 so far, it is working great. I think the main benefit of Android over apple is that you have more choices on which software to run on the device.
There are some very lightweight and fast web browsers out for Android, and I think you will find one to suit your needs.
Very pleased with my nook color and I recommend them to many friends.
I have both iPad and a CM7 nook. This is my take:
- iPad is huge! It does not fit any pocket. In fact is so big, that you have to carry a bag if you want to take it along (and if you take a bag, you might as well take a notebook). This is a magor plus for the nook. 7" seems to be just fine for me.
- iPad has a very low resolution screen. The screen density on the iPad is much lower then any phone's. This is relay frustrating for me. The nook has much better screen density.
- 4:3 vs. 16:10. I prefer the widescreen. 4:3 is probably better for magazines, but when it comes to video a lot of the 4:3 screen is wasted.
- when it comes to performance - the nook is much faster (using CM7 with the OC kernel), unfortunately battery life on the nook is not that great.
So, I guess it's more of a choice of form factor. For me, 10" 4:3 screen is not a good choice at all. I can't comfortably hold it in one hand. The plus is that the iPad has a bit of a WOW-factor over here (in Bulgaria).
I actually own both. Here's my take:
iPad:
- More responsive screen (huge perk for me)
- Appstore is so superior to Market. It's not even a contest.
- Bigger screen = more enjoyable browsing from the couch.
Nook Color (Phiremod 5.3 @ 1.1ghz):
- More portable
- More enjoyable reading ebooks (which is my primary use for it atm)
- more "fun" with the moding community and openness of Android
- Much easier to sideload apps and books. Huge plus.
All in all, I have an iPhone 4 and the iPad is a glorified iPhone. So I bought the iPad for the fiance and she absolutely loves the simplicity of it as she can relate to it because she has an iPhone as well.
I bought the Nook initially and learning Android was not as intuitive as learning iOS was for her. So the nook simply frustrates her.
Each has it's purpose. It's really all about what you're going to do with each device.
EDIT: Also, I paid $200 for my Nook (new) and $300 for her iPad (new). At these price points, if I could have just ONE device, I'd choose the iPad (jailbroken) over the Nook Color (CM7). If it were between the NC and the iPad2 @ $500, NC, no question. But that's just me.
Got both.
Ipad has netflix. NC will never get netflix, ever. Netflix requires qualcom chip DRM.
That is a big plus for ipad/phone, a single killer app.
Flash support if you ROM the nook.
I feel flash beats netflix, or at least ballances the scale.
Form factor of NC is ideal, 7 inch will win the tablet form factor wars for obvious reasons.
Ipad is wifi only, so not much diff there.
Ipad apps, seems like most I ever used (read: free) were upscaled iphone apps. Pixel doubling fail. Suppose android has same issue to a much lesser extent, and somwhoe it never bothers. Could be a bias, but really the ios apps seem to have more profound issue with native tablet apps or making apps scale to larger screen.
Multitasking. Ipad came out around the time of mutitasking ios apps, but seems to not share the feature with iphone.
I love the nook color over ipad. Ipad is dead in the eyes of apple.
Deliver by Epic 4G xda app
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The biggest problem I have run into browsing involves sites automatically redirecting to the mobile versions.
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You can easily change your userAgent with dolphin... sorry if its been mentioned in the thread, I didnt look
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If anyone has both or had both, would you be able to answer a few questions?
I got a brand new ipad 1 for $280 and ended up selling it a few weeks ago because it really didnt meet my expectations for performance. I like Android OS better because of user customization ability and the widgets, which I use all the time. I dont like choosing between a million apps. I was very disappointed with the browser experience of the ipad 1. It was good for viewin 2-3 pages but after that, it would checker-board and also because of the limited ram (256mb) it would constantly refresh. Browsng on the ipad 1, was very minimal browsing, nothing that I can replace a netbook with. I think the Nook has 512mb ram which is the same as the ipad2....Also the ipad1 lacked multitasking (Even simple ones like chatting with someone on gchat and going back to my browser page) and notifications.
1) How does the browsing experience for the Nook compare to the ipad1?
2) With the new mods and tweaks, what about responsiveness?
I plan to use the tablet for watching movies, netflix when it comes out, browsing, gchat and multi-tasking all around with email and stuff. The ipad severely underperformed in that aspect and in the notification aspect. Basically, if it can do everything my stock mytouch4g phone can do (1ghz, 786mb ram), I will be happy.
3) Is the nook a legitimate replacement for an android tablet like the xoom? I mean considering the price + mods and tweaks, to someone who doesnt have one, it LOOKS good on youtube. BUt you never know how itll work out until soemone who used it tells you the truth.
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My experience with the ipad 1 mimics yours, though I will say for one or two page browsing the ipad is superior. However, I can open 7 or 8 tabs at once in DolphinHD (whatever the maximum number it lets you open) on the NC without any slowdown when scrolling through pages which makes it vastly superior for me as I always have at least 3 or 4 tabs open when browsing. If you want to do anything like drawing or note taking, the screen is more sensitive on the ipad to allow that, though you can also do it on the NC, just not as well.
In terms of tablet useability, it is as usable if not more so than my Fascinate. You can easily multitask and it performs well. Mail, gchat etc. all run at the same time without issue. Movie watching is high quality if you convert the movies or use VLC convert and stream to encode on the fly to the proper format. I prefer the form factor as it's more portable and you can use it one-handed which is not really possible with the ipad. It absolutely can be used as an everyday tablet.
Probably no sense in repeating everything everyone has said so I'll say that I pick the NC up more often than the iPad because having Flash is important to me and the size is so much nicer, especially when reading. The iPad is just overly huge.
parasense said:
Got both.
Ipad has netflix. NC will never get netflix, ever. Netflix requires qualcom chip DRM.
That is a big plus for ipad/phone, a single killer app.
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I'll make a lier out of you yet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995759
It was working for some time, but they caught on to us. It's close to coming out, though...
What about the NC screen brightness, contrast, viewing angles, color reproduction, flickering?
I've used an Ipad 1 in a bright store and it suffers a lot from glare, even at highest brightness setting.
Couldn't find a Nook Color in my country to try it out.
I have both an ipad 1 and the nc. In the past I have had a Cruz tablet, gtab, and Augen tablet. There are three things I have to have in a tablet: speed, portability, and a good screen. Out of all those tablets only one meets all those criteria and its the nc.
The screen is superb. Its has great viewing angles, and it's bright and crisp. The speed once rooted and overclocked is good, there are faster tablets but not at this price point. Finally, this is truly a portable device. You can't just toss an ipad or grab in your pocket. Plus have you ever tried to hold those larger tablets in one hand for any period of time?
I would say for now if you want a nice, zippy, portable tablet this is the clear cut winner.
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Ipad has netflix. NC will never get netflix, ever. Netflix requires qualcom chip DRM.
That is a big plus for ipad/phone, a single killer app.
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Hmmm... ever? To quote Marge Gunderson, "Not so sure about your detective work there, Lou"
"Ever" is a mighty strong statement.
playon lets you access netflix via your home PC - so while technically I don't have direct access, i can access netflix from anywhere using my nook color using playon
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Hmmm... ever? To quote Marge Gunderson, "Not so sure about your detective work there, Lou"
"Ever" is a mighty strong statement.
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I have been looking at the HD+ for sometime and i might get one..i have had a few android tablets and i like the price of this one MUCH more.
few questions..
"The Verge" .com review was horrible..they showed Bad Bad lag, unlocking the screen, pulling the notifications shade down, swithing users etc..was this just a bad hardware issue or is this THAT laggy? did a software update fix it? what would all of you compare the smoothness to especually if you have owened more expensive tablets.
i know you can run CM10.1 but could i run nova launcher on top of the stock software? i read that the stock software gets better battery life?
talking about that..what are you all seeing for battery life and screen on time?
after reading all your comments i will make my decision. also the screen looks georgous and that is what i want..NO Pixels..haha
Thanks in advance!!
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I have been looking at the HD+ for sometime and i might get one..i have had a few android tablets and i like the price of this one MUCH more.
few questions..
"The Verge" .com review was horrible..they showed Bad Bad lag, unlocking the screen, pulling the notifications shade down, swithing users etc..was this just a bad hardware issue or is this THAT laggy? did a software update fix it? what would all of you compare the smoothness to especually if you have owened more expensive tablets.
i know you can run CM10.1 but could i run nova launcher on top of the stock software? i read that the stock software gets better battery life?
talking about that..what are you all seeing for battery life and screen on time?
after reading all your comments i will make my decision. also the screen looks georgous and that is what i want..NO Pixels..haha
Thanks in advance!!
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I've had my hd+ for a couple weeks, since 2.0.6, so I don't know about previous revs, but its not distractingly laggy or anything horrible like that. I've found it completely acceptable especially due the fact that it is well done in many other regards.
You can run any launcher you want now, even easier since they added google play store support built in, with 2.1.0.
Battery life is really fantastic, depending upon what your doing, etc.. your screen on time will go 6-9 hours easily. Sleeps well, with minimal battery loss as well.
I haven't bothered with cm because i'm quite happy with stock, so I can't comment much on that.
Your not gonna find a better value anywhere. The screen is amazing, 256 ppi and the color tuning they did is just gorgeous. toss in a 64gb sdcard like I have and you get 96gb super high res tablet with great battery life for far far less than anything else on the market.
I second everything andmer says. I'll add that I bought an HD+ right after they were released, and I never had any lag problems and loved the device from day 1. I only had responsiveness issues with the internet browsers I used(stock and maxthon), but the problems weren't that bad, really. Now with the new software update, everything is far smoother and faster than it ever was (for me, at least), and the Chrome browser has replaced the stock browser and is super-fast. I will reinstall Maxthon later tonight and see if that's any better now.
As for battery life, I've heard some people say on the B&N forums that they're getting some battery drainage since the update that they didn't have before, but i haven't had to charge my HD+ for 2 1/2 days and I've been using it a lot in that time--not constantly, but at least for 2-3 hours a night, including reading, installing apps, and lots of internet usage. I think certain apps (ones that are set to constantly update or sync) are to blame for the drain and not the operating system.
The screen is gorgeous--I've compared it in person to friends' tablets and even my wife's iPad mini, and it looks better than all of them. Again, no complaints and I would highly recommend it!
Great info guys...i may grab one today..i mean..how can you beat 179???
heh, i know what you mean..I just picked up a 32gb HD+ from my local target yesterday for $215 after taxes...Far better than $330
so far it looks REALLY good.
i picked one up at noon time. i must say i am impressed so far..and i have owned ALL andoird tablets..
dvigue said:
i picked one up at noon time. i must say i am impressed so far..and i have owned ALL andoird tablets..
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I feel the same, I had a tf101 and acer a500, have a nexus 7 and transformer infinity. The nook hd+ I got on monday is really nice...
dvigue said:
I have been looking at the HD+ for sometime and i might get one..i have had a few android tablets and i like the price of this one MUCH more.
few questions..
"The Verge" .com review was horrible..they showed Bad Bad lag, unlocking the screen, pulling the notifications shade down, swithing users etc..was this just a bad hardware issue or is this THAT laggy? did a software update fix it? what would all of you compare the smoothness to especually if you have owened more expensive tablets.
i know you can run CM10.1 but could i run nova launcher on top of the stock software? i read that the stock software gets better battery life?
talking about that..what are you all seeing for battery life and screen on time?
after reading all your comments i will make my decision. also the screen looks georgous and that is what i want..NO Pixels..haha
Thanks in advance!!
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I just got mine today, but so far i am VERY pleased with it.
You can definitely use Nova launcher, Ive got Nova, Apex, Go and Next 3D on mine right now (just playing around to see what i like the most on here, I use Nova and Next 3D on my HTC One). I was worried about the increase in screen size, but they scale perfectly.
I have no long term battery experience since i just got mine, but ive played on it all evening and the battery has been quite good. It also seems to charge pretty quickly.
Until about three weeks ago, i was a manager for an AT&T corporate store and got to demo a lot of Android tablets. I was honestly never impressed with any of them. I bought this Nook HD+ because i just started really getting into rooting and flashing custom ROMs, hoping to eventually work my way up to some light development. At the current price, i couldnt resist the Nook.
In all honesty i like it far more than other Android tablets ive used that are built with much higher specs. I cant quite explain why :silly:
Regardless, theres no buyers remorse here what so ever. Hope you pick one up, and enjoy it as much as i am mine :good:
I do not feel any serious lag with stock rom 2.10 and based on benchmark numbers it is actually quite good.
(Same scores to Nexus 7 in HTML5 benchmark, 44FPS in 1920x1280 with Epic Citadel 3D gaming benchmark. Nexus 7 has 55FPS)
I tried CM10 and CM10.1. I really liked CM10.1 but running it on SD card is just too slow mainly due to slow read/write by the SD card.
Once they have a stable build it may be possible to replace stock rom completely with CM10.1. That way there would be no I/O penalty from the SD card. At the moment though I would stay with stock rom 2.10 at least for some time.
well..i have to say..i returned the nook...apps like flipboard ran SO laggy, i mean bad..i was on stock 2.1 and tried nova also..no dice..in the end i could not handle some of the lag...
did i maybe have a bad nook?
dvigue said:
well..i have to say..i returned the nook...apps like flipboard ran SO laggy, i mean bad..i was on stock 2.1 and tried nova also..no dice..in the end i could not handle some of the lag...
did i maybe have a bad nook?
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Sorry about your bad experience. I don't use flipboard so I can't comment on that.
I tested dungeon hunter 4 in single player mode. It runs really smooth just like on the Nexus 7.
Also web browsing and playing online videos both work perfectly.
Maybe it doesn't work well with the apps that you use. If so it may not be a good fit to your needs.