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Haykuro - can you fix BT in Hero?

Steve,
I know you have been focusing on other more important things recently, but we've had this big problem for a while here I was hoping you'd help address. Can you get bluetooth working on your latest Hero build? There were rumors you got it with the last version, though it has been so long, you've weighed in elsewhere (including the Rogers root), and the "dev challenge" with the big pot went unanswered so I figure you haven't actually done it. That said I feel like if anyone here could do it then it would be you. Shafty made some great progress, but it remains elusive. Anyway, I just wanted to ask.
Vette

I don't want to be bothersome, but this really should be in a different section or in a PM.

Not only that but you know when he comes back one person is gonna say one thing wrong and he is going to run off again. I agree he is a good Dev but you know what the Dev's we have has pushed everyone and rather have it how it is now then how it used to be with all the crying going on here. I know this will rub people the wrong way but some one needs to say it. IMO

imbonez9 said:
Not only that but you know when he comes back one person is gonna say one thing wrong and he is going to run off again. I agree he is a good Dev but you know what the Dev's we have has pushed everyone and rather have it how it is now then how it used to be with all the crying going on here. I know this will rub people the wrong way but some one needs to say it. IMO
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I'm fairly sure haykuro said that he was going to post his ROM's at another forum site.
See here:
http://twitter.com/haykuro/status/3178123420

Anyway to unbrick a hero? HELP?

I got ahead of myself and installed a radio update on a rooted handset running MoDaCo 2. I ran the updater in update mode and than it prompted a restart.
I restarted and it installed the package than next time i looked the screen was dead. the whole units been dead eversince. no reaction to USB/Power, or to any key combo startups...
Please tell me that this is not the end?

probably dead
from what i have read on this issue, if you flash a GSM radio it runs on a higher voltage and kills your phone.
if you have the insurance they most likely wont be able to tell what broke it.

well there isnt anything you can do. I hope you have insurence. this is the only way that we have found to brick these phones, is to flash the GSM radio.
good luck

arcataslacker said:
I got ahead of myself and installed a radio update on a rooted handset running MoDaCo 2. I ran the updater in update mode and than it prompted a restart.
I restarted and it installed the package than next time i looked the screen was dead. the whole units been dead eversince. no reaction to USB/Power, or to any key combo startups...
Please tell me that this is not the end?
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Sorry, this is the end.
I didn't think MoDaCo had a v2 for CDMA heros...maybe thats why it told you to update the radio. Nothing that you can do, I think this is the only thing that has killed a Hero is someone not paying attnetion and updating the radio to a GSM one.

Please no one take this the wrong way, but...
At least once a week there's a thread like this, where someone has fried their phone by flashing the wrong package.
Accidents do happen... that's the way it goes. I've been in the tech industry for over 20 years and I've certainly done my share of "what does this do?", but there are pages and pages (and more pages) relating to the process involved in hacking around on your Hero phone and while it is getting easier to do due to the great work by the devs found here in this forum, reading and comprehension of exactly what it is you're doing should always be your #1 step.
Read, download files, read again, verify that you have the correct items, read some more and then start the process.
It's like the old woodworking saying, measure twice, cut once.
To the OP, it sucks that your phone got fried, but one can hope this serves as another warning to others.

There us definitely a modaco 2.0 cdma. What radio update did you use?

adelaney said:
There us definitely a modaco 2.0 cdma. What radio update did you use?
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It doesn't matter what he used. There are zero radio updates for the CDMA Hero, thus there is no opportunity, at all, to flash something back to the phone that would work.
If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be doing it. It's as simple as that. If you do it anyway, you should expect to get burned.

posguy99 said:
It doesn't matter what he used. There are zero radio updates for the CDMA Hero, thus there is no opportunity, at all, to flash something back to the phone that would work.
If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be doing it. It's as simple as that. If you do it anyway, you should expect to get burned.
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im sorry to do this because im totaly not into flaming but dude you are a real jerk every post I see from you is condecending and rude. yes you should be sure you know what your doing before you do it but jesus man how did you learn? where you born with total knowledge of the android system? I have posted this to you before, but once again why post anything if you can not be helpfull?

wtphoto said:
im sorry to do this because im totaly not into flaming but dude you are a real jerk every post I see from you is condecending and rude. yes you should be sure you know what your doing before you do it but jesus man how did you learn? where you born with total knowledge of the android system? I have posted this to you before, but once again why post anything if you can not be helpfull?
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10 Char limit my butt....

wtphoto said:
im sorry to do this because im totaly not into flaming but dude you are a real jerk every post I see from you is condecending and rude. yes you should be sure you know what your doing before you do it but jesus man how did you learn? where you born with total knowledge of the android system? I have posted this to you before, but once again why post anything if you can not be helpfull?
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+1000 ..... After reading a couple foul posts from this guy yesterday, I did a search for all of his posts and at least 3/4 of them are condescending and rude, in addition to being completely unnecessary and unhelpful.
Why do you come here and post when you have nothing positive to add and nothing nice to say. Seriosly, get some anger management and dont chime in unless you plan to help and be constructive.

rockcrawler said:
+1000 ..... After reading a couple foul posts from this guy yesterday, I did a search for all of his posts and at least 3/4 of them are condescending and rude, in addition to being completely unnecessary and unhelpful.
Why do you come here and post when you have nothing positive to add and nothing nice to say. Seriosly, get some anger management and dont chime in unless you plan to help and be constructive.
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+1....
was I constructive and helpful?
jk
to OP:
sorry dude... if u have a Sprint CDMA Hero
and you messed with the RADIO
IT is the end of that phone... dead!

As was advised before, take your phone to a Sprint store and fain ignorance. Say, "For the life of me, I tried to turn it on the other day and it just won't respond!" The techs will fart with it for two hours, calling Sprint's techs and attempting every trick in the book to flash it before finally replacing it with a heartfelt apology. Don't tell them anything that you did to it. Just let them make the determination.

posguy99 said:
It doesn't matter what he used. There are zero radio updates for the CDMA Hero, thus there is no opportunity, at all, to flash something back to the phone that would work.
If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be doing it. It's as simple as that. If you do it anyway, you should expect to get burned.
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We've all been down this road. Maybe not with flashing a phone, but with other things as well. That's called "learning from your mistake." He got a bit too enthusiastic and had a lapse in judgment...it happens to all of us, including me.
He probably thought he was flashing the MoDaCo CDMA 2.0 ROM for HTC Hero and just accidentally picked up the MoDaCo GSM 2.0 ROM for HTC Hero. Unfortunately, the problem is that the GSM Hero and CDMA Hero are named just that, HTC Hero. There is no real designation to the average user. Even the accessories like batteries between the GSM Hero and the CDMA Hero are different...causing an average user to make a mistake and buy the wrong accessory (got close in buying a battery for the GSM Hero because it was labeled as compatible with "HTC Hero"...only problem was it was for the GSM Hero and not the CDMA Hero, but nowhere on the site said that.)
Go easy on the guy...it's unfortunate, but it happened and now he's learned to be more careful in the future.

tkirton said:
We've all been down this road. Maybe not with flashing a phone, but with other things as well. That's called "learning from your mistake." He got a bit too enthusiastic and had a lapse in judgment...it happens to all of us, including me.
He probably thought he was flashing the MoDaCo CDMA 2.0 ROM for HTC Hero and just accidentally picked up the MoDaCo GSM 2.0 ROM for HTC Hero. Unfortunately, the problem is that the GSM Hero and CDMA Hero are named just that, HTC Hero. There is no real designation to the average user. Even the accessories like batteries between the GSM Hero and the CDMA Hero are different...causing an average user to make a mistake and buy the wrong accessory (got close in buying a battery for the GSM Hero because it was labeled as compatible with "HTC Hero"...only problem was it was for the GSM Hero and not the CDMA Hero, but nowhere on the site said that.)
Go easy on the guy...it's unfortunate, but it happened and now he's learned to be more careful in the future.
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So curiosity kills me here. If 1.6+ has CDMA support in the future could we potentially have 1 set of roms for both devices?? I guess that is probably just wishful thinking due to other differences, doesn't change the fact the radio is still different and a different driver, not just kernel level stuff.
Ignore me i make less sense as i ramble.

Kcarpenter said:
So curiosity kills me here. If 1.6+ has CDMA support in the future could we potentially have 1 set of roms for both devices?? I guess that is probably just wishful thinking due to other differences, doesn't change the fact the radio is still different and a different driver, not just kernel level stuff.
Ignore me i make less sense as i ramble.
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Theoretically, yes. The ROM should be able to determine which radio is in there and set the settings accordingly (including loading the correct driver).
But, that's in theory. Not sure if that is how this going to play out at 2.1 (since that's the next release for our phone).

wtphoto said:
where you born with total knowledge of the android system?
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Hardly. I learn something every day.
But it doesn't take "total knowledge of the Android system" to know that:
(A) This over here isn't meant for my phone
(B) People repeatedly post saying "don't do it!"
(C) People who do it anyway report bricking their phone
should lead to:
(D) I really shouldn't do that.
It just takes normal reasoning ability.
I have zero problem with someone who says "gee, I don't understand the difference, will you tell me?"... but the one who decides to do something, I am going to assume the same of him that I would hope he assumes of me.
That he has a clue.
People who don't have a clue should be expecting to be reminded of the fact. This is how people *learn*. Conversely, if I make some stupid mistake, I hope someone pokes ME about it, too.
XDA is a great resource. If only more people would actually use it.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled fora.

To OP:
Do what they said and play it ignorant at a repair center, they will have no clue what happened and give you a new phone.
Well I have insurance so maybe that is why but who knows.
Don't worry OP I did the same mistake, just keep reading and you will be fine. Don't be afraid to get back into the modding scene, just read up before you try anything next time, and maybe create a thread to verify you have a solid process before doing it, once you learn everything that you need to be successful.

arcataslacker said:
I got ahead of myself and installed a radio update on a rooted handset running MoDaCo 2. I ran the updater in update mode and than it prompted a restart.
I restarted and it installed the package than next time i looked the screen was dead. the whole units been dead eversince. no reaction to USB/Power, or to any key combo startups...
Please tell me that this is not the end?
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Okay...once you get your phone back from Sprint and you want to mod it again, my suggestion is to stick to the Hero CDMA subforum for your ROMs. All are guaranteed not to brick your phone.
The Darktremor has a list and links to updated ROMs.

Thanks for the info guys!
there are no sprint stores near by but I should be able to call support about it.
I know its a no no but they wouldn't be able to tell if the MEID was 0ed out would they?

arcataslacker said:
Thanks for the info guys!
there are no sprint stores near by but I should be able to call support about it.
I know its a no no but they wouldn't be able to tell if the MEID was 0ed out would they?
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No...without actually getting into the phone, they can't tell if you messed with it. And since the phone is dead, they won't be able to tell you tried to mod it. Just do what everyone here says and play ignorant.

Froyo that works????

Has anyone made a froyo build for the cdma Hero in which everything is working? If not then why not the source has been out for awhile now so whats up peeps. Any links to all builds? ANY i said. And im not complaining just tired of searching through threads, and i have an EVO but i like my hero just the same.

Why haven't YOU made one yet?
I don't get people that make posts like this.

nope...good luck

vinny8030 said:
Has anyone made a froyo build for the cdma Hero in which everything is working? If not then why not the source has been out for awhile now so whats up peeps. Any links to all working builds?
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Wow. Really?

exactly..lol I mean if u really want one dont complain..go build it yourself.. or keep quiet. be patient like the rest of us. and go support darch for even trying to get a froyo build to us hero users!!
Be glad we still have a few devs around to keep us hero users going for awhile.. since most have jumped ship to the evo etc.... so show some support etc if not guess u could alway go get a evo,lol

Oh man guys, he's right... I mean, it's not like devs have been working hard on giving us FroYo already... they should listen to this guy!
Really though, OP... this has got to be one of the most ungrateful posts I've read yet. If Darch the rest could give us a fully working 2.2 right now, they would... They're working hard on it, and they provide these roms to us for FREE. And then you came in here and basically clapped your hands twice and said "chop chop!"
Just be patient, and maybe a bit more respectful.

vinny8030 said:
Has anyone made a froyo build for the cdma Hero in which everything is working? If not then why not the source has been out for awhile now so whats up peeps. Any links to all working builds?
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seriously?? you made a thread to ask this question..
1. we have a Q&A section, and this isn't it..
2. sense u are in this section, did it not occur to you to check the available ROM's for ur answer???
by the way, to the others that have commented.. i don't think this guy even knows theres a froyo version out at all.. i don't think hes tryna speed darch up or anything.. i just think he hasn't checked this forum for much of anything.

A huge part of it is that they aren't porting it - they're actually using the source files to build it for the Hero.

Darch and company are building the 2.2 rom from the ground up so there are issues being ironed out. The current 2.2 version is RC0 (Release Candidate Zero) aka its in beta meaning its open to download and use but please either help fix the bugs or at the very least report them. This is how we the users can help move collectively towards a bug free froyo release.

Wow negativity!!
I think some of you people missunderstand the point of this post. Its not to complain but to get some links all in one place for anyone who has built a Froyo for the hero. And to awnser the smartassed remark i havent built one because i dont know how. I am a mechanic and amateur computer builder.
Sorry for any confusion, just want one place for the links instead of needing to search through all the threads to find them.

bk718 said:
seriously?? you made a thread to ask this question..
1. we have a Q&A section, and this isn't it..
2. sense u are in this section, did it not occur to you to check the available ROM's for ur answer???
by the way, to the others that have commented.. i don't think this guy even knows theres a froyo version out at all.. i don't think hes tryna speed darch up or anything.. i just think he hasn't checked this forum for much of anything.
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This isnt Q&A its a place for LINKS to any Froyo builds. I repeat ANY builds.

Ok dude, I guess I see what you were TRYING to ask/say/organize, but you did it in a real Asshattery way.
What you should have said was "Please All Devs put your FroYo Links Here"
With a message that should have said "Due to the threads bouncing around the forum, sometimes it's kind of hard to see all the options so I figure we should have links to these threads in one spot and we could make this thread a sticky".
It's no secret these devs (even though I claim one rom, I am NOT a dev. I am a kitchen user) bust their ass and take pride in the work they have accomplished making these froyo builds with no monetary gain except that they can reap the fruits of their work in using their own builds.
I know if it were me then I would have jumped the gun and taken offense and honestly I am surprised that there were not a flood of flame posts here because of it.

http://darchroms.pocketdevelopers.com/cm/willeaturcat.zip
report issues and join in on the testing like we all are darchstar is almost there

what is that willeatyourcat.zip ? is that RC0 ?

RC1
Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA using XDA App

Okay, As of now Darch's 2.2 builds are in beta. That being said they are not be posted on xda by him (just guessing here) because if he did, THOUSANDS of people would post useless questions and turn the thread into a joke.
Be patient, and wait for a final to get posted.
Or, get on the IRC channel and help test the current builds.....
My 2 cents.

I think we should give darch some $$ or petition Google to do so OR (if you can) give him a secure job providing these generous updates!
What's the incentive otherwise? This isn't OUR work.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

who says "peeps" anymore or ever?

I do when I feel like typing peeps instead of 'persons I know'
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thatguythatdid said:
who says "peeps" anymore or ever?
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Ummm I say peeps every year around Easter, as in Marshmallow Peeps. YUMMMMM

[Q] No cyanogen 7 ?

As you mayhave noticed the firstcm7 nightlies were released today. But not for DS.
Have we officially been discontinued now?
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G using XDA App

Well unless someone steps up to do the G1 work i do believe so. As you can see there is a CM7 for Hero, which runs on about the same specs, more Ram, but we have seen the AOSP Gingerbread builds running quite well on G1, so i guess CM could work too.

punshkin said:
As you mayhave noticed the firstcm7 nightlies were released today. But not for DS.
Have we officially been discontinued now?
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If I was you I'd very quickly and politely ask a mod to remove this thread because you have opened yourself up for the abuse this post so rightly deserves

shadowch31 said:
If I was you I'd very quickly and politely ask a mod to remove this thread because you have opened yourself up for the abuse this post so rightly deserves
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???
You need to think before you post. The OP's question was NOT in ANY WAY out of line.

I hope someone like ezterry can help the team.
or maybe someone can port the build to the g1 (from hero?), like for windows mobile devices(cm6 on htc touch pro,hd2,...).

dhkr123 said:
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You need to think before you post. The OP's question was NOT in ANY WAY out of line.
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*Le Sigh*
And I suppose going to the cm thread and reading the last few pages was just to hard a task before writing this ****?

still trolling xda i see...

shadowch31 said:
*Le Sigh*
And I suppose going to the cm thread and reading the last few pages was just to hard a task before writing this ****?
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You actually think that a bunch of random crap added into the end of that thread has any valid meaning?
How about you go ask CM himself... oh wait, somebody already has, and he said very specifically that it HAS NOT BEEN RULED OUT, it is just LOW PRIORITY.
Now personally, CM for Dream was never much good. Just way too much bloat for the hardware. Ezterry's work on the dream is much more interesting.

from cyanogenmod forum:
Sorry folks, end of the line on CM6 nightlies for DS; and I have yet to get confirmation of CM7 Nightlies for DS.
Will open new thread if it materializes.
Till then, thread closed
-Ciwrl
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I asked Cyanogen on Twitter and he replied "Its not off the table but its not high priority either" there is hope yet
To be honest it seems liek alot of devs get our donations, buy themselves a better device then forget about the people who donated..This isnt true with cyanogen though he has supported D/S since first cyanogenmod.But is with others it seems

No worries...
Someone will step up and lead the way out of the darkness for us.

ObsoleteSoldier said:
Someone will step up and lead the way out of the darkness for us.
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AMEN, AMEN

I believe very few are as intimate with the intricacies of the D/S subsystem as Cyanogen. Those that are intimate with it may not feel the need to keep this hardware going. I admit that I'm eternally grateful to all the ROM developers here for all their hard work. Stock G1 is boring as **** and feels so restricted. Ever since I got root on this phone a year+ ago and started flashing ROMs, I felt a huge weight lift off my shoulders as if I shed the chains of slavery or some **** lol.
Rock on devs!!
Rock on XDA for providing a hub for all this great stuff.
J

Atleast you guys get cm
Vibrant doesn't have anything yet
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Maybe it's about time you all upgrade devices!

Why is this in the android development section..

G1-evolve said:
Maybe it's about time you all upgrade devices!
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Yea ok for those who can afford it or want a brick sized smartphone..IMHO it isnt a smartphoen if it doesnt fit comfortably in your pocket.. i.e Iphone / desire

bonesy said:
Yea ok for those who can afford it or want a brick sized smartphone..IMHO it isnt a smartphoen if it doesnt fit comfortably in your pocket.. i.e Iphone / desire
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Well it kinda has been almost 3yrs since the G1 came out, its been officially discontinued and people are moving on...But it seems the G1's community just hasn't died yet, I came here to see if 2.3 was available and I was surprised to see the source for it was up. I was a bit hesitant to use 2.3 since 2.2 was really laggy for me, but I'm sure others are happy with 2.2/2.3. But it's good to see that devs are still supporting this device, I wish the slide's community was this active...I actually feel jealous

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Well it kinda has been almost 3yrs since the G1 came out, its been officially discontinued and people are moving on...
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True enough, although it has only been out for 2.5 years, and it was sold as recently as maybe 1.5 years ago. That means that people will have them under contract for a while longer yet. Plus, we're talking about expensive devices - people aren't necessarily going to want to upgrade them just for the heck of it (FYI - if anybody is upgrade eligible T-Mo has been giving away free-after-rebate G2s recently on their website).
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I was a bit hesitant to use 2.3 since 2.2 was really laggy for me
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Have you tried the new radio with the extra RAM? It makes a VERY big difference - my G1 is actually pretty decent running 2.2 with it.

I just replaced my MT3G with a HTC Desire (Bravo). I had so much fun, flashing and customising so thanks to everyone at XDA. I was a recieiver of all your hard work and I am thankful for your efforts.
Yeah, its a sad day for me, but all is not lost as I see that the DESIRE has a CM7 branch and some studious person(s) have worked out a way to get CWM running with full system access on the DESIRE. It will start again, but I will buy a new shell/keys for my MT3G, get it back to "new" looking and keep it, for it was the best phone I ever owned - Peter

Custom Development for M7spr - Discussion, testing and help

This is a discussion thread for all things custom; Building steps and tips, problem solving and issue discussion. All questions and/or comments are welcome. Be aware, although I build and customize ROMs, I am not a professional developer and cannot promise a solution for your problem. But, hopefully, we can work together to come up with practical solutions for any problems here at m7spr.

So..The things you were shut down on. Were they CM related, or Sense stuff?
Did they involve you working solo, or with a team? Give more details, get the word out.

Felnarion said:
So..The things you were shut down on. Were they CM related, or Sense stuff?
Did they involve you working solo, or with a team? Give more details, get the word out.
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I really am leery of pointing fingers at specific people because I'm new here and don't want to make a name for myself as a whiner. But, basically it is both. The custom ROMs I am working on have all been built before by me on other devices, so that's not the issue. I have inquired about possibly collaborating with other devs on some Sense related stuff and was looking into why there was no official or unofficial release of the current CM10.2. The sense stuff really isn't my bag as much, but i was/am interested. Others are working on the CM, but with no official release in play, no one wants to put theirs out. I have built it successfully, but have no intention of trying to lay it out there when other devs have been working on it before I got here. My thing is this: when I got tired of waiting for devs to come up with new things, I was told to put up or shut up. It was good advice; I have no coding experience specifically, but I like to learn and have been successful at not only compiling and maintaining custom builds, but also starting 'Learn to do it yourself' threads in two different device forums. I like to learn and compile and share. That's it. I don't need (or want) attention or grateful fans or any of that crap. All I want to do is open the doors for more builds and more users getting off their asses and building for themselves. It seems like a win-win to me, but I feel resistance and it is disappointing. I will get off my soapbox now
I typically touch base with any dev who is the creator/maintainer of any ROM I am interested in pursuing. My experience has been more of a quick 'try it out and see what you get' response or 'it can't be done'. This is after I have asked for not only a blessing, but for relevant information and possibly assistance. Maybe I am just hitting up devs who are already frustrated and don't want someone like me asking a bunch of questions, I don't know....

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I really am leery of pointing fingers at specific people because I'm new here and don't want to make a name for myself as a whiner. But, basically it is both. The custom ROMs I am working on have all been built before by me on other devices, so that's not the issue. I have inquired about possibly collaborating with other devs on some Sense related stuff and was looking into why there was no official or unofficial release of the current CM10.2. The sense stuff really isn't my bag as much, but i was/am interested. Others are working on the CM, but with no official release in play, no one wants to put theirs out. I have built it successfully, but have no intention of trying to lay it out there when other devs have been working on it before I got here. My thing is this: when I got tired of waiting for devs to come up with new things, I was told to put up or shut up. It was good advice; I have no coding experience specifically, but I like to learn and have been successful at not only compiling and maintaining custom builds, but also starting 'Learn to do it yourself' threads in two different device forums. I like to learn and compile and share. That's it. I don't need (or want) attention or grateful fans or any of that crap. All I want to do is open the doors for more builds and more users getting off their asses and building for themselves. It seems like a win-win to me, but I feel resistance and it is disappointing. I will get off my soapbox now
I typically touch base with any dev who is the creator/maintainer of any ROM I am interested in pursuing. My experience has been more of a quick 'try it out and see what you get' response or 'it can't be done'. This is after I have asked for not only a blessing, but for relevant information and possibly assistance. Maybe I am just hitting up devs who are already frustrated and don't want someone like me asking a bunch of questions, I don't know....
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you can start by helping to get things working in sense 4.2.2 beta rom

flex360 said:
you can start by helping to get things working in sense 4.2.2 beta rom
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I looked your thread up and I think we'd get along great. Anybody who says 'if you don't like me, GOOD' is someone I wanna hang with. It's also funny you should mention helping with that sense version because that's exactly what I was trying to do. Sense aint even my bag, but I was going to look into it from the SVD side to see what I could learn. Maybe I just rubbed that guy the wrong way or something. Regardless, I can't promise how much help I will actually be, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Tell me what you need and the right places to look and I'll do whatever I can. Be cool

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I looked your thread up and I think we'd get along great. Anybody who says 'if you don't like me, GOOD' is someone I wanna hang with. It's also funny you should mention helping with that sense version because that's exactly what I was trying to do. Sense aint even my bag, but I was going to look into it from the SVD side to see what I could learn. Maybe I just rubbed that guy the wrong way or something. Regardless, I can't promise how much help I will actually be, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Tell me what you need and the right places to look and I'll do whatever I can. Be cool
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I think one issue is that there is an update to 4.3 looking for the Sprint One. This will undoubtely contain new radios and firmware that will help our phones run on 4.3+. Since this is a know update, many devs have decided to forego work on the the current 4.1.2 Sense ROMs. Some are working on the 4.2.2 Sense ROM, but with no leak, or Sprint version it is much harder work. Also, there is only source for up to 1.29. The source from the 1.31 update is not available and it has caused issues with ROMs based on that update.
Personally I don't get your complaint though. There is a lot of development and a wide selection of ROMs available from Stock Android 4.1 to 4.3 to Stock Sense, to heavily themed Sense ROMs. What exactly is not available that you want?

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raptoro07 said:
I think one issue is that there is an update to 4.3 looking for the Sprint One. This will undoubtely contain new radios and firmware that will help our phones run on 4.3+. Since this is a know update, many devs have decided to forego work on the the current 4.1.2 Sense ROMs. Some are working on the 4.2.2 Sense ROM, but with no leak, or Sprint version it is much harder work. Also, there is only source for up to 1.29. The source from the 1.31 update is not available and it has caused issues with ROMs based on that update.
Personally I don't get your complaint though. There is a lot of development and a wide selection of ROMs available from Stock Android 4.1 to 4.3 to Stock Sense, to heavily themed Sense ROMs. What exactly is not available that you want?
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This really wasn't meant to be some complaint thread with a bunch of whining; just the opposite, really. I just wanted feedback on how I am perceiving things around here. I'm cool with being told I have it wrong; was hoping for it actually. And you pointed out exactly what I mean in part. Sense this and stock that is the rule of the day here. That's ok. Everyone is allowed to like whatever they want and if sense and stock are the most wanted builds then so be it. But, I am a self-proclaimed customization junkie, for better or for worse. Personally, I like more fully custom ROM choices and have been beating my head against the wall trying to get some Beanstalk love here but without success to this point. BS is already set in 4.3 and matched with CMs 10.2 releases, so I'm stumped. If you have knowledge, I would be happy to show you some of my errors. I do think you make a great point about the whole place being in flux due to the impending 4.3 release. Like I said before, I just want to open up some development doors and get more interest in development in general. Maybe I have hit up the wrong devs or caught them at bad times. It happens.

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This really wasn't meant to be some complaint thread with a bunch of whining; just the opposite, really. I just wanted feedback on how I am perceiving things around here. I'm cool with being told I have it wrong; was hoping for it actually. And you pointed out exactly what I mean in part. Sense this and stock that is the rule of the day here. That's ok. Everyone is allowed to like whatever they want and if sense and stock are the most wanted builds then so be it. But, I am a self-proclaimed customization junkie, for better or for worse. Personally, I like more fully custom ROM choices and have been beating my head against the wall trying to get some Beanstalk love here but without success to this point. BS is already set in 4.3 and matched with CMs 10.2 releases, so I'm stumped. If you have knowledge, I would be happy to show you some of my errors. I do think you make a great point about the whole place being in flux due to the impending 4.3 release. Like I said before, I just want to open up some development doors and get more interest in development in general. Maybe I have hit up the wrong devs or caught them at bad times. It happens.
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Part of the issue might be that users are afraid of using Cm as it has a nasty habit of bricking phones that no one of notoriety has looked into, acknowledged, or found a solution to.

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Part of the issue might be that users are afraid of using Cm as it has a nasty habit of bricking phones that no one of notoriety has looked into, acknowledged, or found a solution to.
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I haven't really been looking at it after my first run (I personally like Sense a lot, and AOSP didn't have a good way of dealing with the limited hardware options for me), but wasn't the brick-spree killed a while back?

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I haven't really been looking at it after my first run (I personally like Sense a lot, and AOSP didn't have a good way of dealing with the limited hardware options for me), but wasn't the brick-spree killed a while back?
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A couple of people developed a "consensus" that it had been fixed. then 2 more people bricked their phones. ALLEGEDLY the CPU has a tendency to over clock itself and lock at 1.7 Ghz
This is all fine and dandy yet no one can figure out why or how to stop it.

I thought so too
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Like I said no one ever figured out why or how to stop it. A consensus was reached but then more people bricked. No developers could be bothered to take time out of their day to look into it though.

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Like I said no one ever figured out why or how to stop it. A consensus was reached but then more people bricked. No developers could be bothered to take time out of their day to look into it though.
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I saw one guy who was addressing it and taking names and such, but then I guess it just faded away. Do you know of ongoing issues like this? Can all of the bricks be undoubtedly proven to be from no other cause? I think that would be the defining characteristic of lack of support; difficulty in proving cause. My build of CM10.2 runs fine as long as I don't try to change the font with Font Installer. And I am reasonably certain that it isn't from CM all by itself. I have the same issue with Illusion ROM 4.2.2. Anybody know why we can't change the font? My thread; I can change topic if I want to

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I saw one guy who was addressing it and taking names and such, but then I guess it just faded away. Do you know of ongoing issues like this? Can all of the bricks be undoubtedly proven to be from no other cause? I think that would be the defining characteristic of lack of support; difficulty in proving cause. My build of CM10.2 runs fine as long as I don't try to change the font with Font Installer. And I am reasonably certain that it isn't from CM all by itself. I have the same issue with Illusion ROM 4.2.2. Anybody know why we can't change the font? My thread; I can change topic if I want to
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It is the only common factor in permanent bricks. Phone gets hot, phone wont charge. All other "bricks" are user induced because people did not understand what S-Off meant, what wiping in TWRP means, what GSM means etc etc.

So how many confirmed permanent bricks and when was the last? Has anyone proven a cause? Contacted HTC or CM or Sprint? If there were twenty cases with only 5 confirmed, then it isn't that big from a larger standpoint. See what I mean? That would explain what you see as a lack of support? Has this happened to you?

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Check your hangouts.

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Why does there seem to be very little development going on here and why is the development that is taking place so closely guarded? I thought everyone wanted more choices and new options..... I see that there is current and ongoing 10.2 development (hell, I've even built it), but no one wants to release it. I'm hearing that the last guy who did that got banned. So, if everyone is waiting for OFFICIAL builds to be released first, why are there none being officially worked on? Two times in the last three weeks I have inquired about wanting to work on some new development and have either been told straight out not to release or been effectively threatened with reporting before I have even begun an attempt. I don't know if maybe there has been a rash of jerks who are trying to claim ownership of work that does not belong to them or what, but I've never seen as much negativity about new builds in any thread I have been a part of. I want to claim ownership of nothing; I only want to open doors. I guess I'll just work on things for my own use and leave this forum to the guys currently running it. HMPH :angel:
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You could build us a GSM version ROM that works on the sprint HTC One. You'd be a hero if you could do that. We've already unlocked our phones and are able to connect to the ATT / TMO but only manually. When the signal is lost it seems to still be looking to auto connect to sprint...I would think this should be a simple setting software but I know nothing about phone ROMs.

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You could build us a GSM version ROM that works on the sprint HTC One. You'd be a hero if you could do that. We've already unlocked our phones and are able to connect to the ATT / TMO but only manually. When the signal is lost it seems to still be looking to auto connect to sprint...I would think this should be a simple setting software but I know nothing about phone ROMs.
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Man, if I could do that I'd be a GOD. :angel:

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Haha Naw but I see your point but I love and appreciate every devolepers effort here on this forum ..there not a a lot but a bunch of smart and quietly brilliant devs here ...I'm comfortable but the more the merrier
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