I love my n7000 its a fantastic phone alot of development its awesome. on tmobile I only get 2G speeds. since I love my N7000 ive tolerated it. I know a guy that on the April25th that is gonna get a BNIB One s and wants to trade. at first I was a little skeptical because of the snapdragon. after reading all the reviews and watching the videos, even with the snapdragon it seems like a pretty great phone. it would be great cause then I could actually get 4g. then again the screen is smaller not HD and no S pen. I thought about the one x but that would only be 2g too, im thinking hard what do you guys think?
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I love my n7000 its a fantastic phone alot of development its awesome. on tmobile I only get 2G speeds. since I love my N7000 ive tolerated it. I know a guy that on the April25th that is gonna get a BNIB One s and wants to trade. at first I was a little skeptical because of the snapdragon. after reading all the reviews and watching the videos, even with the snapdragon it seems like a pretty great phone. it would be great cause then I could actually get 4g. then again the screen is smaller not HD and no S pen. I thought about the one x but that would only be 2g too, im thinking hard what do you guys think?
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If you love the Gnote and want T mobile LTE, you can buy the ATT version and then flash a a radio which supports T mobile 3g on it. The ATT Gnote (i717) is 550 without contract, and you should be able to get most of your money back if you sell your N7000. That way you still have your beloved Gnote, and it works on T mobile 3g (and 4g too)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547114
Or you can do what I did and ditch Tmo and get straight talk. I did this coming from T mobile and knowing that the ATT Gnote would support the 1700 mhz band by reading spec sheets. As you may be able to tell, I decided to go with the international version.
Are you sure you aren't in an area that is getting 1900 mhz tmo 3g soon? Mostly west coast, midwest. (also philly).
I don't really see why you would trade someone your Gnote for the One. It's like in chess- if your opponent offers up a piece for an exchange, it is almost always not a good idea to go for it. It means that they have some reason that they want to trade with you.
Hmmm I may look into straight talk. I actually had the atet note before this one and switched to the n7000 cause its much better. So no atet note for me lol.
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If you love the Gnote and want T mobile LTE, you can buy the ATT version and then flash a a radio which supports T mobile 3g on it. The ATT Gnote (i717) is 550 without contract, and you should be able to get most of your money back if you sell your N7000. That way you still have your beloved Gnote, and it works on T mobile 3g (and 4g too)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547114
Or you can do what I did and ditch Tmo and get straight talk. I did this coming from T mobile and knowing that the ATT Gnote would support the 1700 mhz band by reading spec sheets. As you may be able to tell, I decided to go with the international version.
Are you sure you aren't in an area that is getting 1900 mhz tmo 3g soon? Mostly west coast, midwest. (also philly).
I don't really see why you would trade someone your Gnote for the One. It's like in chess- if your opponent offers up a piece for an exchange, it is almost always not a good idea to go for it. It means that they have some reason that they want to trade with you.
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I actually offered them the trade. The one s seems like a great phone besides not having the notes 5.3 inch HD screen. Main reason I was thinking about it is cause then I would get 4g. Im gonna look into straight talk .
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Hi I am a prospective HTC One buyer (my iPhone 4S is getting wonky + i'm tired of the slow 3G speeds). I'm thinking of buying the One because I want to be on the 4G LTE network since it's the same price for my monthly bill but I don't know how good or bad 4G LTE is in NYC? I've seen some threads here but they are from a year ago or more so I would like to hear some real life experiences with LTE in NYC for sprint? I'm confused because in the news it's officially launched but when I go to the sprint stores, they say NYC doesn't have LTE??
I'm also thinking of getting the HTC One because of the free 23 Gbs for Dropbox - I know it's carrier specific (Verizon & Sprint). My question is, do you have to stick with the stock rom in order to keep using the 23 Gbs or what? I'm guessing it won't matter but I don't know if they can authenticate it somehow if you switch from Sprint's official rom to something custom.
Lastly I'm very confused about the bootloader situation - I remember hearing about HTC wanted to lock their bootloader or something to that effect. I just want to know if the HTC One can still be rooted and get the free tethering feature (with LTE support or just 3G? When I had an EVO, the tethering only worked for 3G, not WiMax) as well flash custom roms? Thank you!
I'm getting bored of my iPhone (which is crashing on me a lot) and even though I still have a year left on my contract, I am thinking about just buying the phone outright from sprint for the full price because I want LTE and that big ass screen lol.
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Hi I am a prospective HTC One buyer (my iPhone 4S is getting wonky + i'm tired of the slow 3G speeds). I'm thinking of buying the One because I want to be on the 4G LTE network since it's the same price for my monthly bill but I don't know how good or bad 4G LTE is in NYC? I've seen some threads here but they are from a year ago or more so I would like to hear some real life experiences with LTE in NYC for sprint? I'm confused because in the news it's officially launched but when I go to the sprint stores, they say NYC doesn't have LTE??
I'm also thinking of getting the HTC One because of the free 23 Gbs for Dropbox - I know it's carrier specific (Verizon & Sprint). My question is, do you have to stick with the stock rom in order to keep using the 23 Gbs or what? I'm guessing it won't matter but I don't know if they can authenticate it somehow if you switch from Sprint's official rom to something custom.
Lastly I'm very confused about the bootloader situation - I remember hearing about HTC wanted to lock their bootloader or something to that effect. I just want to know if the HTC One can still be rooted and get the free tethering feature (with LTE support or just 3G? When I had an EVO, the tethering only worked for 3G, not WiMax) as well flash custom roms? Thank you!
I'm getting bored of my iPhone (which is crashing on me a lot) and even though I still have a year left on my contract, I am thinking about just buying the phone outright from sprint for the full price because I want LTE and that big ass screen lol.
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I think Sensorly is available for iPhones-- if you download it, you'll be able to get a pretty reasonable coverage map of your area that's not from corporate (which is important because it may also show you areas where Sprint hasn't officially announced LTE, but still has it operational). And yes, you can can keep the extra space no matter what ROM you're on-- once Dropbox confirms you're valid for the promotion, that stuff remains server-side (otherwise, anyone owning multiple devices would be in for a huge headache).
Almost all HTC phones have their bootloaders locked, but Sprint's variant is unlockable as per usual by following instructions at HTCDev. When you do so though, HTC will log your device as being unlocked (since you need the unlock key from HTC to do so) and it may become a sticking point if you need to ever use manufacturer warranty.
4G tethering works as far as I know.
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I think Sensorly is available for iPhones-- if you download it, you'll be able to get a pretty reasonable coverage map of your area that's not from corporate (which is important because it may also show you areas where Sprint hasn't officially announced LTE, but still has it operational). And yes, you can can keep the extra space no matter what ROM you're on-- once Dropbox confirms you're valid for the promotion, that stuff remains server-side (otherwise, anyone owning multiple devices would be in for a huge headache).
Almost all HTC phones have their bootloaders locked, but Sprint's variant is unlockable as per usual by following instructions at HTCDev. When you do so though, HTC will log your device as being unlocked (since you need the unlock key from HTC to do so) and it may become a sticking point if you need to ever use manufacturer warranty.
4G tethering works as far as I know.
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Thanks for the sensorly. According to the website, it says there is 4G in NYC! However, on the iOS app nothing shows up. I don't see any coverage of any kind (i.e. not for 3G, 4G etc).
Okay gotcha so it's still possible to root the HTC One but you just need a key from HTC and be ready to give up the warranty. Okay that sounds good! Anyone have any experience with their HTC One in NYC? I'm just curious how New Yorkers' experience with the One and 4G has been. I'm from Brooklyn btw but I go to Manhattan all the time.
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Hi I am a prospective HTC One buyer (my iPhone 4S is getting wonky + i'm tired of the slow 3G speeds). I'm thinking of buying the One because I want to be on the 4G LTE network since it's the same price for my monthly bill but I don't know how good or bad 4G LTE is in NYC? I've seen some threads here but they are from a year ago or more so I would like to hear some real life experiences with LTE in NYC for sprint? I'm confused because in the news it's officially launched but when I go to the sprint stores, they say NYC doesn't have LTE??
I'm also thinking of getting the HTC One because of the free 23 Gbs for Dropbox - I know it's carrier specific (Verizon & Sprint). My question is, do you have to stick with the stock rom in order to keep using the 23 Gbs or what? I'm guessing it won't matter but I don't know if they can authenticate it somehow if you switch from Sprint's official rom to something custom.
Lastly I'm very confused about the bootloader situation - I remember hearing about HTC wanted to lock their bootloader or something to that effect. I just want to know if the HTC One can still be rooted and get the free tethering feature (with LTE support or just 3G? When I had an EVO, the tethering only worked for 3G, not WiMax) as well flash custom roms? Thank you!
I'm getting bored of my iPhone (which is crashing on me a lot) and even though I still have a year left on my contract, I am thinking about just buying the phone outright from sprint for the full price because I want LTE and that big ass screen lol.
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My LTE speeds in NYC vary anywhere from 31mbs to 3 Mbs depending on location
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Thanks for the sensorly. According to the website, it says there is 4G in NYC! However, on the iOS app nothing shows up. I don't see any coverage of any kind (i.e. not for 3G, 4G etc).
Okay gotcha so it's still possible to root the HTC One but you just need a key from HTC and be ready to give up the warranty. Okay that sounds good! Anyone have any experience with their HTC One in NYC? I'm just curious how New Yorkers' experience with the One and 4G has been. I'm from Brooklyn btw but I go to Manhattan all the time.
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Errr really? Try uninstalling/reinstalling it? And are you sure you're looking at coverage maps for Sprint? I can see something up top near NYC.
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My LTE sppeds in NYC vary aware from 31mbs to 3 Mbs depending on location
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I second this I only get respectable 4G in Queens, and some parts of Brooklyn (around 20 down at like 11 pm) it's very spotty in manhattan.
While making a call on the EvoLTE i had 3G/LTE and i could still use the internet but on the HTC ONE this seems to be a problem even if i dont answer. My tethering will stop and my 3G will be disabled. Is it my ROM, Sprint, HTC or just me
The One does not have SV-DO like the EVO LTE did. They wanted the EVO to have SV-DO because Sprint's LTE network was still in its nascency when the phone came out and they thought that the ability to do voice and data simultaneously would ease their customers' complaints.
The One does not have this ability because both antennae can be used for LTE to minimize RF fade, which enables the One to have better LTE reception than the EVO did. The One does, however, feature SV-LTE, so you can do voice and data when connected to LTE.
Here is an article with a lot more info: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-342-updated-all-for-htc-one-htc-one-for-all/
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OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid iphone wannabe clone.
Is there anyway possible anyone can change this via a hack?
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OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid phone iphone wannabe clone.
Is there anyway possible anyone can change this via a hack?
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Good luck with that; none of Sprint's phones feature SV-DO anymore. No, there is no way around this that I know of. Wow... and that's your first post on XDA.
Disgusting and a slap in the face to many by Sprint and HTC
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Good luck with that; none of Sprint's phones feature SV-DO anymore. No, there is no way around this that I know of. Wow... and that's your first post on XDA.
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#1 Yes its my first post but I've been a silent member and supporter for a few years now. #2 This should have been made clear and the fact that it passed by me shows it wasn't because I would have never gotten this phone if that was the case. #3 I'm not under any Sprint contract anymore and can go to AT&T where I'm sure GSM can deliver both voice and text quite nicely and with ease and that SG4 at least has removable storage unlike this dumb iphone wannabe. And last but not least #4 I just got off the phone with Sprint and they're sending me a free HTC EVO LTE for the bother and trouble they've caused me by being idiots for not having LTE towers in my area.
When everything switches to LTE everywhere around the country then only will this phone be perfect. Until then it sucks and I can't wait to get back to my sense 4.0 with my good ol' message,music,email,bookmark,and note widgets HTC were best known for back in their prime. After bragging how much this phone crapped over the SG4 and anything apple could ever put out I'm ashamed and disappointed in Sprint and HTC.
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OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid iphone wannabe clone.
Is there anyway possible anyone can change this via a hack?
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Um, the S4 doesn't have this feature either. The EVO LTE and the S3 were the last ones to have it. The Note 2 doesn't even have it.
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Um, the S4 doesn't have this feature either. The EVO LTE and the S3 were the last ones to have it. The Note 2 doesn't even have it.
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Which is why I made Sprint send me a free new EVO LTE. Now I know I will always need a secondary phone until the year 2020 when LTE covers the globe. Knowing how slow Sprint is with their coverage and towers.
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Um, the S4 doesn't have this feature either. The EVO LTE and the S3 were the last ones to have it. The Note 2 doesn't even have it.
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i guess they figure it's not important w/ 4g being more ubiquitous. 4g and talk does work. I never use the feature myself.
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i guess they figure it's not important w/ 4g being more ubiquitous. 4g and talk does work. I never use the feature myself.
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Yeah I don't see the big deal, it's a cool feature but nothin to get all crazy over. I wouldn't even want to be with Sprint if they didn't have 4g all over my city anyway because their 3g sucks big time.
Does anybody else remember when AT&T used to advertise the fact that it allowed you to browse and call at the same time? They made a pretty big deal about it. Until they were able to throw around fancy terms like 4G and LTE.
Yeah, CDMA does not allow simultaneous data and voice. Its very rare that you should have to do this, but it is another reason why I'll never buy another CDMA phone ever again. The One is my first and last with Sprint.
Ok, let's break this down...
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#1 Yes its my first post but I've been a silent member and supporter for a few years now. #2 This should have been made clear and the fact that it passed by me shows it wasn't because I would have never gotten this phone if that was the case.
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The fact that you know how to flash ROMs and mod your phone does not mean you have done proper research. Obviously, people knew that the One was not going to be SV-DO before it came out, as evidenced by the article that I posted above. SV-DO was somewhat of a surprise feature on the EVO LTE and Galaxy S3 when they were first announced and the FCC filings were reviewed. Anyone who knew anything about CDMA should've known this, yourself included.
What concerns me further is the fact that you've been coming to XDA for years yet still make generalizations like this:
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#3 I'm not under any Sprint contract anymore and can go to AT&T where I'm sure GSM can deliver both voice and text quite nicely and with ease and that SG4 at least has removable storage unlike this dumb iphone wannabe.
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You're right, GSM will support voice and data on the SGS4, just like it would on a GSM HTC One. But really? Comparing the One to the iPhone? Yes, I do wish that it had external storage, but I'm getting along just fine without it. As an Android phone, however, it is just as customizable as the SGS4. But, what I'm curious about is why you even bothered with this phone if you spent so much time on XDA as you claimed above? Surely, you knew that this phone did not have expandable storage or a removeable battery, so I'm confused as to why you even mentioned those shortcomings here, to say nothing of actually buying the phone.
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And last but not least #4 I just got off the phone with Sprint and they're sending me a free HTC EVO LTE for the bother and trouble they've caused me by being idiots for not having LTE towers in my area.
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I might be misunderstanding this, but according to #3, you're not under a Sprint contract any longer, so why are they sending you a free EVO?
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When everything switches to LTE everywhere around the country then only will this phone be perfect. Until then it sucks and I can't wait to get back to my sense 4.0 with my good ol' message,music,email,bookmark,and note widgets HTC were best known for back in their prime. After bragging how much this phone crapped over the SG4 and anything apple could ever put out I'm ashamed and disappointed in Sprint and HTC.
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Again, I can understand the fundamental limits that Sprint's network currently imposes on the One, but I'm confused as to why you are blaming HTC.
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Which is why I made Sprint send me a free new EVO LTE. Now I know I will always need a secondary phone until the year 2020 when LTE covers the globe. Knowing how slow Sprint is with their coverage and towers.
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This is just outright confusing. You are clearly indicating that you plan on holding onto the EVO LTE until 2020. Do you know how useless your phone will be by then? If your battery manages to still be useful until then, the phone will be wildly outdated simply with respect to the frequencies it has access to. The EVO and One can only run on Sprint's 1900MHz LTE network. Sprint is currently rolling out LTE on their 800MHz and 2500MHz frequencies. Sprint will start selling tri-band phones optimized for all 3 of their LTE bands late this year/early next year (they're already selling hotspots for them). By then, a number of carriers (Sprint included) will be moving on to Vo-LTE making this entire issue moot. I don't even think Sprint will be transmitting 1xAdvanced by that point, so voice on the EVO LTE might not even work.
By the way, I see you've started to spread your disease to other threads, I'm going to be following you, cleaning up your mess.
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Does anybody else remember when AT&T used to advertise the fact that it allowed you to browse and call at the same time? They made a pretty big deal about it. Until they were able to throw around fancy terms like 4G and LTE.
Yeah, CDMA does not allow simultaneous data and voice. Its very rare that you should have to do this, but it is another reason why I'll never buy another CDMA phone ever again. The One is my first and last with Sprint.
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With CDMA carriers adopting LTE, this will become less of an issue as all of Sprint's LTE phones support SV-LTE. Once Sprint transmits on all of its available spectrum, and once their network upgrades are complete, LTE will be pretty much everywhere that Sprint has 3G now. However, if you can't wait a year for their tri-band phones to come out, then you gotta do what you gotta do...
adios
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OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid iphone wannabe clone.
Is there anyway possible anyone can change this via a hack?
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c ya :crying:
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With CDMA carriers adopting LTE, this will become less of an issue as all of Sprint's LTE phones support SV-LTE. Once Sprint transmits on all of its available spectrum, and once their network upgrades are complete, LTE will be pretty much everywhere that Sprint has 3G now. However, if you can't wait a year for their tri-band phones to come out, then you gotta do what you gotta do...
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They tell me they'll have LTE everywhere they have 3G. But they don't have 3G anywhere! It's all name sake! Most of the time I can't even do a speed test!
Sprint has terrible coverage, even in huge covered markets like San Francisco. The speeds there were pathetic, ranging between 2 and 5 megs. If that's the best Sprint can do, while advertising speeds of around 20 megs, they should be sued for every dollar (or yen, I guess) they have.
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They tell me they'll have LTE everywhere they have 3G. But they don't have 3G anywhere! It's all name sake! Most of the time I can't even do a speed test!
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I can't speak for San Francisco's network state, but if it is anything like Chicago was at your level of deployment, I can tell you that it's going to get a LOT better. EV-DO (3G) was BLAZING here between 2006-2009. Back then, I was regularly getting between 1-2Mbps, then it started dropping to 10-300Kbps (yes, 10Kbps). Now, when I don't get LTE (which isn't often now that Chicago is nearly done), my EV-DO is sill around 1Mbps, which is totally useable.
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Status: Partial LTE Launched/Full Builds Continuing
NV Sites Accepted = 69%
LTE Sites Accepted = 49%
Anticipated LTE Launch = Fall 2013 (North Bay launched 12/2012, East Bay 2/2013)
Original Scheduled Completion = July 2013
Current Production Rate Completion = January 2014
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SOURCE:http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
This is as of July 29. You should note that "LTE Sites Accepted" does not necessarily mean it's transmitting LTE yet, so the actual percentage is probably lower lower. This is where I have some trouble defending Sprint; they announce a market as "launched" when only a fraction of the towers are transmitting LTE.
Given the nature of LTE, it is a much more fragile airlink than EV-DO. Given the same frequency, LTE will drop before EV-DO does. That being said, 1900MHz LTE should be available around 80-90% of the places that 1900MHz EV-DO is. Once Sprint begins transmitting on 800MHz, the increased penetration means that LTE should be available everywhere 1900MHz EV-DO is now. So, if you're in a spot where you have the "3G" icon but you aren't able to get any data through, that means you're connected to a tower that has not received Network Vision upgrades. Once the NV upgrades are complete for 1900MHz, you should get useable 3G at a minimum. Once the tower starts transmitting LTE on 800MHz (assuming you have a compatible device by then), you should receive LTE.
SOURCE:http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1771-lte-700/?p=37464
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Sprint has terrible coverage, even in huge covered markets like San Francisco. The speeds there were pathetic, ranging between 2 and 5 megs. If that's the best Sprint can do, while advertising speeds of around 20 megs, they should be sued for every dollar (or yen, I guess) they have.
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I'm assuming that 2-5Mbps is when you're connected to LTE, right? EV-DO Rev. A maxes out at a theoretical 3.2Mbps. I'm not really sure what you're doing that you need more than 2-5Mbps, but once all the backhaul is complete, you should be getting 6-8Mbps with low latency. Where did you get 20Mbps, just out of curiosity? I've never seen that number... The maximum theoretical throughput of Sprint's 1900MHz LTE on a 5x5 carrier is 37.5Mbps, though real-world should be what I said earlier.
SOURCE: http://gigaom.com/2012/07/16/sprint-launches-lte-in-clusters-promises-6-8-mbps-speeds/
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Does anybody else remember when AT&T used to advertise the fact that it allowed you to browse and call at the same time? They made a pretty big deal about it. Until they were able to throw around fancy terms like 4G and LTE.
Yeah, CDMA does not allow simultaneous data and voice. Its very rare that you should have to do this, but it is another reason why I'll never buy another CDMA phone ever again. The One is my first and last with Sprint.
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I wouldn't be on sprint if i wasn't on a large family plan (that i don't pay a dime for). When the time comes to pay for my own service, i'll probably go unlocked on T-mobile if they have good Chicagoland and Michigan coverage.
I love HTC phones (because of how clean sense is) and I love Sprint (for their unlimited data only). Heres what I hate about them both...Sprint is clearly the weakest out of all the carriers but they make up for it with unlimited data plans. For them to not include the same tech in their new flag ship phones such as the HTC ONE/SG4/and future tech like the EVO LTE and SG3 has is PURE BS*! Theres no way Sprint will have country wide coverage of their LTE service even in the next 5 years and if so it will be spotty as HELL. I think its a slap in the face to many of their loyal customers who still live in rural/farm/or dense suburb areas. I haven't seen anything this stupid since the unveil of XBOX ONE! Sprint better take a note from Microsoft and reverse this $hit very fast because when people come out of their 2 year contracts from the EVO LTE and SG3 they're gonna be pissed when they find out their new upgrades can't do what their old phones can.
Screw what you and I know now about the tech subhuman. The fact of the matter is the mass general consumers of Sprint have no idea about the tech inside the phone. They will just expect their new powerful phones to be able to do what their old phones use to do. For Sprint sake they better have LTE towers up every damn where in the year or all HELL will break loose. Sprint is going to lose a lot of costumers to AT&T.
Now onto the HTC hate. For some reason HTC keeps dropping the damn ball with their phones and software (sense). For every step they take forward they cut off a limb. The built in battery $hit and no SD card expansion are stupid things I've grown to make fun of Apple fanboys for but now I find myself on the other side of the fence because I trusted HTC to show Apple they could do exactly what they're doing and beat them in quality....HOW FOOLISH WAS I TO THINK THAT! The whole unibody thing is neat and the front speakers are amazing but thats where the HTC ONE stops becoming awesome. SENSE 5.0 is $hit! Where the hell are all my SENSE 4.0 widgets?! Why do HTC keep cutting these things with every new phone instead of adding to the already elegance of the OS (I mean sense not Jellybean).
I have 5 Sprint lines open and one of them is the new HTC ONE which is the only one under a new contract. I still have 8 days to cancel it if I choose to. I personally use 3 of the lines which are all rooted HTC phones. The original EVO 4G,EVO LTE,and now the ONE. Its amazing how the original EVO still has a better 3G connection than its newer cousins and can download files faster using wifi tether. It just pisses me off that Sprint didn't care enough to include all their handsets with their best 3G services (for voice and data) until they figured out all this stupid LTE placement.
Now thanks to Subhuman I'm more educated on all the frequencies and radios that go in these new phones vs the old. I know the phone is capable of sending text while on a call now but only on LTE. But I have a few questions/request that will help me determine if I will keep the HTC ONE now. As of right now I'm using the phone as a Windows 8 wannabe with the Launcher 8 app (I know, I know, I'm lame) Please help me out if you can.
1. Can someone please find a way to put the SENSE 4.0 widgets on the HTC ONE including HTC Notes?
2. Is it me or can anyone else not access your apps while using the ONE with the HTC Media Link HD?
3. Since this thing doesn't use micro SD cards and you have to copy data to the phone its incredibly slow. Is there anyway to speed the data transfer up instead of copying 1 item at a time?....HTC Sync sucks too :-/
4. Also I don't know why this is happening to me but I get a weird popping sound when I use Pandora. I just thought it was the speakers at first but other streaming apps like tunein and Stitcher are clear.
Thanks for all/any help
My Motorola photon q 4g lte was able to use 3g while on the phone. Seems like we're taking a step backwards, doesn't it?
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Android-X said:
For them to not include the same tech in their new flag ship phones such as the HTC ONE/SG4/and future tech like the EVO LTE and SG3 has is PURE BS*!
SENSE 5.0 is $hit! Where the hell are all my SENSE 4.0 widgets?! Why do HTC keep cutting these things with every new phone instead of adding to the already elegance of the OS (I mean sense not Jellybean).
1. Can someone please find a way to put the SENSE 4.0 widgets on the HTC ONE including HTC Notes?
2. Is it me or can anyone else not access your apps while using the ONE with the HTC Media Link HD?
3. Since this thing doesn't use micro SD cards and you have to copy data to the phone its incredibly slow. Is there anyway to speed the data transfer up instead of copying 1 item at a time?....HTC Sync sucks too :-/
4. Also I don't know why this is happening to me but I get a weird popping sound when I use Pandora. I just thought it was the speakers at first but other streaming apps like tunein and Stitcher are clear.
Thanks for all/any help
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First the ability to talk and use data on 3G (SVDO) not being included had nothing to with Sprint or HTC. It's because Qualcomm changed that. Read that article from s4gru referenced earlier.
The general concesus was that Sense was to gaudy and intrusive, that was always what most people said in critism to HTC, Sense 5 changed alot to be smaller, less intrusive, and also conform more to Android (Googles) Holo look and feel. As such, lots of the widget were taken out, but most of the critics have been positive in reference to Sense 5.
1. Sense 4 widgets will not work on the Sense 5 framework and would require lots of work if they were even to ever work. No one seems willing to do that work since you are the first I've seen to want it.
2. I don't have a Media link, but do you have the H200 or H300. I H300 is the new one that came as a bonus on the AT&T preordered Ones. Maybe the problem is you are using the H200.
3. The One is USB 2.0 so maybe that's why? IDK
4. Are you running an adblock app? This has been linked to popping or skipping in Pandora.
raptoro07 said:
First the ability to talk and use data on 3G (SVDO) not being included had nothing to with Sprint or HTC. It's because Qualcomm changed that. Read that article from s4gru referenced earlier.
The general concesus was that Sense was to gaudy and intrusive, that was always what most people said in critism to HTC, Sense 5 changed alot to be smaller, less intrusive, and also conform more to Android (Googles) Holo look and feel. As such, lots of the widget were taken out, but most of the critics have been positive in reference to Sense 5.
1. Sense 4 widgets will not work on the Sense 5 framework and would require lots of work if they were even to ever work. No one seems willing to do that work since you are the first I've seen to want it.
2. I don't have a Media link, but do you have the H200 or H300. I H300 is the new one that came as a bonus on the AT&T preordered Ones. Maybe the problem is you are using the H200.
3. The One is USB 2.0 so maybe that's why? IDK
4. Are you running an adblock app? This has been linked to popping or skipping in Pandora.
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@1. You didn't like the ease of the Sense 4.0 widgets O_O wow?! As much as I hear people cry about the blinkfeed it would seem they would want proper widgets back. Anyway I'm no a dev and I'm hoping someone good like Flex360 or another dev would go through the trouble of making them work on SENSE 5.0 I'd donate a nice amount of money for something like that.
@2. I probably have the H200 but I did do an update last night so it should be on par with the 300 now.
@3. Maybe thats the reason but I just find it always slower to copy to the device that has built in storage rather than the device that has a removable sd card slot. Its like that slow Apple syncing crap from itunes. I really don't get why its like that even on other devices. I copied 1.90GB yesterday to the HTC ONE (pics,music,etc) it took about an hour to transfer. If I was transferring that same amount to an SD card (like in my EVO LTE) it would take 8-10 min the most.
@4. No I'm not running any kind of adblock I don't think unless Flex360's Stock with goodies rom has a native adblock built in.
Android-X said:
I love HTC phones (because of how clean sense is) and I love Sprint (for their unlimited data only). Heres what I hate about them both...Sprint is clearly the weakest out of all the carriers but they make up for it with unlimited data plans. For them to not include the same tech in their new flag ship phones such as the HTC ONE/SG4/and future tech like the EVO LTE and SG3 has is PURE BS*!
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Please, try to understand the reason WHY they no longer support SV-DO. Using multiple antennae for LTE will increase LTE reception. What’s better, spotty LTE with SV-DO or a solid LTE connection without SV-DO? Assume you're on a fringe LTE area.
Android-X said:
Theres no way Sprint will have country wide coverage of their LTE service even in the next 5 years and if so it will be spotty as HELL. I think its a slap in the face to many of their loyal customers who still live in rural/farm/or dense suburb areas. I haven't seen anything this stupid since the unveil of XBOX ONE! Sprint better take a note from Microsoft and reverse this $hit very fast because when people come out of their 2 year contracts from the EVO LTE and SG3 they're gonna be pissed when they find out their new upgrades can't do what their old phones can.
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Sprint will be done with round 1 of Network Vision by the end, if not the middle, of 2014. They started rolling out LTE in late 2011 and are currently done with just over half of their 39,000 sites. All but roughly 100 (0.25%) of those 39,000 sites will not receive LTE because of licensing agreements or regulatory issues. I’m sorry, but I can’t give you more details than that because I’m getting this information from the Sponsor section of S4GRU.com. As I said above, on 1900MHz alone, LTE will cover 80-90% of the places that you’re getting 3G. As for the places where you can get 3G but no useable speed, you will get useable 3G, but it will unfortunately lack SV-DO. By 2015, Sprint will have 800MHz LTE on about 80% of its 39,000 sites, increasing LTE penetration and covering pretty much everywhere that is now 3G.
Android-X said:
Screw what you and I know now about the tech subhuman. The fact of the matter is the mass general consumers of Sprint have no idea about the tech inside the phone. They will just expect their new powerful phones to be able to do what their old phones use to do. For Sprint sake they better have LTE towers up every damn where in the year or all HELL will break loose. Sprint is going to lose a lot of costumers to AT&T.
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Looking solely at a phone’s ability to do simultaneous voice and data, AT&T does have Sprint beat, but honestly, so few people actually use this that it will not be an issue. You seem to be an outlier, wanting to use your phone while tethering. How many of the “mass general customers” tether their phones? Most of the people that you’re talking about don’t even know what “tethering” is. Additionally, voice is being used less and less, which is why so many carriers are practically giving it away. For most people, the few minutes per day that people spend talking on their phones won’t impact their ability to use data because they’ll probably be walking or driving while talking. Once the LTE rollouts are complete, it will be a non-issue because all phones will support SV-LTE.
Android-X said:
Now onto the HTC hate. For some reason HTC keeps dropping the damn ball with their phones and software (sense). For every step they take forward they cut off a limb. The built in battery $hit and no SD card expansion are stupid things I've grown to make fun of Apple fanboys for but now I find myself on the other side of the fence because I trusted HTC to show Apple they could do exactly what they're doing and beat them in quality....HOW FOOLISH WAS I TO THINK THAT! The whole unibody thing is neat and the front speakers are amazing but thats where the HTC ONE stops becoming awesome.
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I can agree with you here to an extent. When I first made the jump from Windows Mobile (not Windows Phone) to back in 2010, I considered both the iPhone and Android. I hated the locked-down philosophy that Apple had both in terms of hardware and software. I very much dislike being denied the ability to expand storage or swap batteries.
Android-X said:
SENSE 5.0 is $hit! Where the hell are all my SENSE 4.0 widgets?! Why do HTC keep cutting these things with every new phone instead of adding to the already elegance of the OS (I mean sense not Jellybean).
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The word “elegance” implies tasteful and simple, generally speaking. If HTC were to continue piling on superfluous options, it would be at odds with elegance. I think HTC believes that there are now enough options in the Play store that they can back off and allow people to choose what they want from there. I think that Beautiful Widgets is itself a testament to HTC’s prior genius; those widgets are obviously inspired by Sense. Which widgets are you missing, exactly?
Android-X said:
I have 5 Sprint lines open and one of them is the new HTC ONE which is the only one under a new contract. I still have 8 days to cancel it if I choose to. I personally use 3 of the lines which are all rooted HTC phones. The original EVO 4G,EVO LTE,and now the ONE. Its amazing how the original EVO still has a better 3G connection than its newer cousins and can download files faster using wifi tether. It just pisses me off that Sprint didn't care enough to include all their handsets with their best 3G services (for voice and data) until they figured out all this stupid LTE placement.
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The difference in performance is a little strange, I will grant that. The One’s 3G connection should be at least on par with the original EVO. Personally, I have not noticed any difference, though my one is a clear step up from my EVO LTE.
Android-X said:
Now thanks to Subhuman I'm more educated on all the frequencies and radios that go in these new phones vs the old. I know the phone is capable of sending text while on a call now but only on LTE. But I have a few questions/request that will help me determine if I will keep the HTC ONE now. As of right now I'm using the phone as a Windows 8 wannabe with the Launcher 8 app (I know, I know, I'm lame) Please help me out if you can.
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The One is capable of sending a text while on a call without being connected to LTE, I just did it.
Android-X said:
1. Can someone please find a way to put the SENSE 4.0 widgets on the HTC ONE including HTC Notes?
2. Is it me or can anyone else not access your apps while using the ONE with the HTC Media Link HD?
3. Since this thing doesn't use micro SD cards and you have to copy data to the phone its incredibly slow. Is there anyway to speed the data transfer up instead of copying 1 item at a time?....HTC Sync sucks too :-/
4. Also I don't know why this is happening to me but I get a weird popping sound when I use Pandora. I just thought it was the speakers at first but other streaming apps like tunein and Stitcher are clear.
Thanks for all/any help
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1.) It might be best to search the Play store for the specific widgets that you need.
2.) I’m sorry, but I am unfamiliar with Media Link.
3.) This is a hassle, and loading everything on the phone typically takes time. I just mount it as an external drive and copy/paste, then leave it for the 45 minutes or so that it needs. I’ve never used HTC Sync, but for my photos, I have it set up so that it auto-uploads to Dropbox every time I connect to my Wi-Fi.
4.) This happens to me as well on YouTube, typically on slower connections. I think it has something to do with the buffering and/or compression.
tetrabyt said:
My Motorola photon q 4g lte was able to use 3g while on the phone. Seems like we're taking a step backwards, doesn't it?
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The Photon Q was another phone that supported SV-DO, so all these arguments apply to that phone as well.
I have had several phone replacements, and I am currently eligible an upgrade. I am considering between the One and the S4. So I just want to know, is the LTE signal for the One better than the Evo? For those of you who still have your Evo, can you post screenshots of the Signal difference the two using the app SignalCheck Lite (or a similar app)?
I really, really prefer Sense, but the LTE signal for the Evo was very disappointing. Also, knowing that the S4 will support Sprint Spark, it is now an option in my mind. Granted, Sense 5 takes precedence, because I don't like TouchWiz, and I don't really want to use AOSP every time I use my phone.
I didn't see another related thread, as I am discerning when posting new threads, especially when posting in the forum of a device that I don't own...yet.
Thoughts, comments?
aarsyl said:
I have had several phone replacements, and I am currently eligible an upgrade. I am considering between the One and the S4. So I just want to know, is the LTE signal for the One better than the Evo? For those of you who still have your Evo, can you post screenshots of the Signal difference the two using the app SignalCheck Lite (or a similar app)?
I really, really prefer Sense, but the LTE signal for the Evo was very disappointing. Also, knowing that the S4 will support Sprint Spark, it is now an option in my mind. Granted, Sense 5 takes precedence, because I don't like TouchWiz, and I don't really want to use AOSP every time I use my phone.
I didn't see another related thread, as I am discerning when posting new threads, especially when posting in the forum of a device that I don't own...yet.
Thoughts, comments?
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If you like Sense and want Spark. Get a One Max. Also, only the newest model S4s get spark. The older model is not triband capable. I keep very good LTE nearly everywhere now especially since the update to Kit Kat.
I'm not exactly sold on the One Max as yet...and the upgrade price is more than the S4 and One combined.
aarsyl said:
I'm not exactly sold on the One Max as yet...and the upgrade price is more than the S4 and One combined.
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Personally, I would wait a month for the refreshed HTC One
aarsyl said:
I'm not exactly sold on the One Max as yet...and the upgrade price is more than the S4 and One combined.
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I have not checked the sprint nexus 5 forums to see how that phone is faring but it also supports spark. You can buy from Sprint or directly from Google store and it will activate on Sprint. Just mentioning the phone but do not have opinion myself.
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_5_16GB_Black?id=nexus_5_black_16gb&hl=en
I believe 16GB is $349 and 32GB is $399.
I would wait for the m8 to be released. But I came from the evo lte and the One definitely holds its lte better. That was my major gripe with the evo lte.
The Mrs has a note 2 and I see her phone switching back n forth between 3g and 4g much more often then my One.
Docarut said:
I have not checked the sprint nexus 5 forums to see how that phone is faring but it also supports spark. You can buy from Sprint or directly from Google store and it will activate on Sprint. Just mentioning the phone but do not have opinion myself.
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_5_16GB_Black?id=nexus_5_black_16gb&hl=en
I believe 16GB is $349 and 32GB is $399.
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It I'm going to pay that much, then I'll upgrade to the One Max for less money.
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aarsyl said:
It I'm going to pay that much, then I'll upgrade to the One Max for less money.
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I understand. Was just throwing that out there. It is not an upgrade, you will not extend contract. Plus you want Sense and this one would be pure Android since it is Google.
Best of luck with whatever you do. I am happy with the HTC One and do not know what it will take to pry this out of my old, cold hands....
Docarut said:
I am happy with the HTC One and do not know what it will take to pry this out of my old, cold hands....
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A free HTC One 2 will. Anyway, thanks for the response. My phone is beginning to fail me, and I do not think that I can wait for the new One to be announced (not released, mind you) in March. I'm pretty sure that I'm not getting it anyway.
And since this is my phone, and not to be shared, I don't think that I'm ready for Samsung.
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Phone: HTC EVO 4G LTE
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