I know this gets asked a lot, but I have a question that I think might be a little different.
Right now I have an AT&T Captivate Running FROYO.UCKB1
I was going to flash Cog4 today but I just realized that the MobleTechVid Gingerbread theme would not work with that ROM. Ever since I saw Josh's vid on his theme, I have wanted it!
I just ran across his Serendipity ROM review and it looks like it has most if not all of the Gingerbread theme built into it.
Basically, I have told myself to skip the Cog4 and just do the Serendipity ROM, but I guess I just wanted a 3rd party endorsement of that decision.
I do need my phone to be 100% usable and reliable as I use it for work, which is why I was leaning toward the COG4 ROM (stability). I can not give up usability/stability for pretty graphics.
On a side note, from what I have read here, it seems as if I need to use Odin to flash back to 2.1 before flashing a custom ROM (via ClockWorkMod). I am fine with that, but I was just wondering if, since UCKB1 came out, anyone has developed a way to flash a ROM with out having to go backwards first.
Thanks!
If you like kb1 cognition is the sane exact thing. If you want something different flash serendipity
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I just flashed this rom on my captivate. So far it is working flawlessy.
I was also on 2.2 Froyo, and used Odin to go back to stock. It's seems like a useless step, but i did it. It only takes a few minutes and for safety sake it's better to do it right just in case.
Josh has awesome vids. I don't think i would have done it this quickly if i had to use some of the others that i've watched.
Josh=
Cognition was my first ROM from stock. It worked well as advertised. And like yourself, I wanted stability over anything else. Its great for being close to stock, with running more smoothly, and had a few extra features. Then I decided to try Serendipity. Serendipity has much more added features and is much more customizable, while at the same time, still provides stability. In my experiences, I would put Serendipity in the middle between Cognition and other roms like Andromeda, which is even more themed than Serendipity. IMO, Serendipity is the happy medium between the stock experience and flashy themed roms. It seems like you already did your research on how to flash, so I would say give Serendipty a try. If its too much or not what you are looking for, go back to Cognition. But it seems like the developers of Cognition (designgears) are straying away from Captivate development, as they already discontinued their other rom, Perception.
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Cognition was my first ROM from stock. It worked well as advertised. And like yourself, I wanted stability over anything else. Its great for being close to stock, with running more smoothly, and had a few extra features. Then I decided to try Serendipity. Serendipity has much more added features and is much more customizable, while at the same time, still provides stability. In my experiences, I would put Serendipity in the middle between Cognition and other roms like Andromeda, which is even more themed than Serendipity. IMO, Serendipity is the happy medium between the stock experience and flashy themed roms. It seems like you already did your research on how to flash, so I would say give Serendipty a try. If its too much or not what you are looking for, go back to Cognition. But it seems like the developers of Cognition (designgears) are straying away from Captivate development, as they already discontinued their other rom, Perception.
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actually, your concept of Andromeda is wrong. Andromeda is first and foremost a 'stock' experience and there is a version that is heavily themed....
mthayer1 said:
I just flashed this rom on my captivate. So far it is working flawlessy.
I was also on 2.2 Froyo, and used Odin to go back to stock. It's seems like a useless step, but i did it. It only takes a few minutes and for safety sake it's better to do it right just in case.
Josh has awesome vids. I don't think i would have done it this quickly if i had to use some of the others that i've watched.
Josh=
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When you say "this rom" do you mean Serendipity or Cognition?
From what I have read, you have to flash back to 2.1 if you are using ClockWorkMod to flash your new ROM because 2.1 and 2.2 use different recovery modes and ClockWork will not work with the recovery mode that 2.2 uses (I think it is 2e that 2.1 and ClockWork use and 3e that 2.2 uses).
2 more questions. What would hapen if I just put the ROM .zip on the root of phone, named it update.zip, rebooted into recovery, and "reinstalled packages"? Wouldn't this flash the ROM w/o using ClockWork and therefore not having to flash back to 2.1?
When I used Kies to go from 2.1 to 2.2 that seemed to be what it did and it kept all my aps, SMS, phone log, and all my other settings (home screens and widgets had to be reset). I do understand the "best" way is to return to out of box stock and then flash, but then there is a lot to re-setup...
Last thing. The only thing about the Gingerbread theme that I don't want is the orange color when you press an on screen button. I prefer the blue color that I have now with 2.2. Is there an "easy" way to change it from the orange back to blue in Serendipity?
Thanks for helping this newb!
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When you say "this rom" do you mean Serendipity or Cognition?
From what I have read, you have to flash back to 2.1 if you are using ClockWorkMod to flash your new ROM because 2.1 and 2.2 use different recovery modes and ClockWork will not work with the recovery mode that 2.2 uses (I think it is 2e that 2.1 and ClockWork use and 3e that 2.2 uses).
2 more questions. What would hapen if I just put the ROM .zip on the root of phone, named it update.zip, rebooted into recovery, and "reinstalled packages"? Wouldn't this flash the ROM w/o using ClockWork and therefore not having to flash back to 2.1?
When I used Kies to go from 2.1 to 2.2 that seemed to be what it did and it kept all my aps, SMS, phone log, and all my other settings (home screens and widgets had to be reset). I do understand the "best" way is to return to out of box stock and then flash, but then there is a lot to re-setup...
Last thing. The only thing about the Gingerbread theme that I don't want is the orange color when you press an on screen button. I prefer the blue color that I have now with 2.2. Is there an "easy" way to change it from the orange back to blue in Serendipity?
Thanks for helping this newb!
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first of all, NO you cannot just name a rom zip update.zip and flash from stock 3e recovery....3e recovery does not allow unsigned zip files to run on it...thats why you have to either flash back to 2.1 or root and use the unsigned 3e recovery mod
it doesnt matter if you return to stock 2.1 or not, when you flash a new rom, you will lose your setup....it wipes the phone except for your internal and external sd cards. root your phone and run titanium backup if you want to save all that stuff.
for your last question about the color. yes, its a png file inside /system/framework/framework-res.apk/res/drawable-hdpi, however, i dont recommend you go mucking around with that......and honestly, it wont look right with the rest of the theme anyway
Ah, thanks for explaining why flashing from a zip in 3e will not work.
I am not sure what parts of the theme you don't think blue will go with...
From what I have seen, the indicators are green and the menus are black. I think that blue would go with that just as well as orange...
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Basically, I have told myself to skip the Cog4 and just do the Serendipity ROM, but I guess I just wanted a 3rd party endorsement of that decision.
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I endorse it. There. Problem solved.
I flash Serendipity everytime MikeyMike puts out an update to it. Granted I flash a new rom at least every two days. Serendipity is always in my rom rotation.
word of caution
If you are really not sure - don't do any custom ROM flashing, it's overhyped.
Stay on stock, enjoy stability.
Or enter the wonderful world of bricking/unbricking.
My first ROM was Cog 3.04, and I followed to 4.0, and 4.1.
Two days ago, I switched to Serendipity because I wanted a different experience besides something close to stock. It's not that Cog was bad...it's great.
What I'm discovering is that it's great to sample the ROMs until you find what fits you best, even if that means you're changing a lot.
I agree 100%...it's all up to the individual!
In my opinion Cognition is for those who want as close to stock as possible and don't want to stray too far into the flashing foray.
Where as Roms such as Serendipity use the latest software released for the i9000 to enhance the device to a better experience and deviate is much from the stock mess as possible.
That and the fact that Cog is 2.2 and Serendipity is 2.2.1
I used to be a big cognition fan until I tried serendipity. Cog is ok, but serendipity is more tailored to my wants and needs. So perhaps try both and see which one will suit you.
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If you are really not sure - don't do any custom ROM flashing, it's overhyped.
Stay on stock, enjoy stability.
Or enter the wonderful world of bricking/unbricking.
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Someone didn't RTFM...
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Someone didn't RTFM...
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LOL!
Seriously.
Even if I did Brick, it seems that $0.99 at radio shack and sacrificing my iGo adapter would be sufficient to un-brick...
bravomail said:
If you are really not sure - don't do any custom ROM flashing, it's overhyped.
Stay on stock, enjoy stability.
Or enter the wonderful world of bricking/unbricking.
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Any Rom is more stable than what was released by ATT and if you are bricking your phone then you should either read more or have some one more knowledgeable do it for you.
bravomail said:
If you are really not sure - don't do any custom ROM flashing, it's overhyped.
Stay on stock, enjoy stability.
Or enter the wonderful world of bricking/unbricking.
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Pretty sure you haven't flashed before if you make a judgement like that. Stock is 1. Much slower, 2. Way less customizable, and 3. Boring.
Lastly, my honest perspective is that stability is the exact same as long as you don't go trekking around things you don't read about prior.
Install a good Rom, find a kernel that sounds the best for you-really just pick one that is popular-if you want. However most Roms come with a custom one so you need not mess with that unless you get interested. And if you want to play around even more, install a different modem. But, as before, that is not necessary.
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Suckerpunch#55 kernel
JL3 modem
does serendipity looks like stock rom? I tot it looks like nexus s?
I don't think it looks stock at all. Cog does. I think Serendipity looks (and functions) 100x better than the stock rom.
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does serendipity looks like stock rom? I tot it looks like nexus s?
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Hey guys im new to the Captivate. I use to be a heavy iphone user i had the iphone 3g then 3gs then 4 and well i decided its time to take the jump to android. All my iphone were jailbroken so obviously im interested in rooting. I rooted my Captivate the day i got it (Last saturday). I really want to get 2.2 Froyo. Now i keep reading about roms. I know how to load them but what are they, anything you can relate them to as iphone. Now on to my main question since im not to android friendly yet i want a stable 2.2 which one would you recommend to be the most stable. Ive seen Cognition and Axura but i dont know what they do nor do i know if theres better. Sorry to seem like a noob but i mainly got this phone for the learning curve of it so tell me everything haha.
Don't flash Axura first! If you do you'll be disappointed in every other rom you try, lol.
Cognition is a great first flash. It installs the lag fix for you and is very stable (get a non OC version). Axura is my favorite. It is very fast, has some IU tweaks, and they have great support. I still recommend Cognition as a first flash though as everything is done for you during the install. You can pretty much install it, change your wallpaper, sync your contacts and be done with it. (Make sure you sync you contacts with google before you flash)
One thing that I overlooked during my first flash is removing the sim card. Don't forget to do this.
Cognition was my first flash, and I haven't found reason to try something else. Its super fast and stable, and was really easy to flash.
I'm running the beta6 version. These phones are not known for long lasting batteries so I always avoid oc roms.
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Cognition was great, but Perception is even better
Before Flashing I would read the post READ BEFORE FLASHING!!!!! under the dev forum - and make sure you understand how to restore before flashing.
And comparing Apple to Android really is trying to compare Apple to Oranges (pun intended).
NOTHING is the same between the two pretty much.
And.. I'd def go with Cognition as a first ROM - as it is a "basic" ROM that is currently using a Captivate kernel.
After you are really comfortable with tweaking your phone - you have your choice of ROMs. Just beware that the i9000 ROMS have their own unique issues - so flasher beware.
A rom, more or less is a package that updates your phones software. most roms are based off of foreign leaks.
When you flash a rom you are not just getting 2.2. In almost all cases you are getting a new kernel, most of which have s lag fix to further improve performance. Your modem will be changed as well, some moderns enable hsupa or basically faster upload and download speeds then what you have with stock.
Roms also have their own theme. Changes in the notification bar, menus, custom animations, boot animations. Etc
Do not flash anything till you read some, I would suggest starting with this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
This is a program that allows you to go back to stock, also allows you to recovery from a bad flash.
My vote on which to flash us axura or assonance. Axura may be the best option as it is a very user friendly thread and there are many people there who will help you if you need it.
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Woops being as impatient as i am i decided to put Axura but no worries im reflashing to stock then ill put Cognition on lol This is good pratice for me. Is there a way to have like 2 roms installed say if i wanted to boot from one to the other then maybe back to stock or am i thinking about computers too much lol
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Woops being as impatient as i am i decided to put Axura but no worries im reflashing to stock then ill put Cognition on lol This is good pratice for me. Is there a way to have like 2 roms installed say if i wanted to boot from one to the other then maybe back to stock or am i thinking about computers too much lol
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If you are on axura why not give ot a shot
You can have multiple roms saved to your sd. Flash stock, load rom. want to change, flash stock, load rom
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what about all your data? i hate reentering my info and apps lol also im on cognition now so too late but i still have the rom in my internal SD
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Don't flash Axura first! If you do you'll be disappointed in every other rom you try, lol.
Cognition is a great first flash. It installs the lag fix for you and is very stable (get a non OC version). Axura is my favorite. It is very fast, has some IU tweaks, and they have great support. I still recommend Cognition as a first flash though as everything is done for you during the install. You can pretty much install it, change your wallpaper, sync your contacts and be done with it. (Make sure you sync you contacts with google before you flash)
One thing that I overlooked during my first flash is removing the sim card. Don't forget to do this.
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started out with cognition and Axura once it was available.
Cognition, Axura, and Perception were my first three roms and didn't think i would wonder from DG.
Still think DG does great work but i have just about everything with the exception of Darkys (though i have seen a few new ones pop in in the last couple of days i haven't played with Insanity and the ginger clone)......
once i found and flashed Chronos i haven't looked back or missed any other rom enough to flash something else.
So my recommendation would be chronos.
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what about all your data? i hate reentering my info and apps lol also im on cognition now so too late but i still have the rom in my internal SD
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Titanium Backup, it is free in the app store.
You can backup your apps+data, but it is not recommend to backup system settings. It only takes a few minutes to set the system settings, not worth any possible problems later on if you choose to restore them IMO.
ok i just flashed to Cognition Do i need to do anything i read something about the battery also keep seeing something about Voodoo care to help me?
I would read more before flashing
go to your my files. Should see a file called voodoo. Go inside, should be logs, go inside. If there are files in there voodoo is working. Not a bad idea to do a couple reboots
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gkallivrousis said:
ok i just flashed to Cognition Do i need to do anything i read something about the battery also keep seeing something about Voodoo care to help me?
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The last time I installed Cognition voodoo was installed automatically, not sure if they have changed it since then. Did your captivate talk to you during the first boot? They usually have a voice telling you what is going on while installing voodoo.
Ok voodoo is running because there 2 folders and file in there
2010-12-21_20-22-06
2010-12-21_20-12-33-conversion
voodoo_history_log
Those are the files so i guess im good what about the battery? think i should be ok?
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Ok voodoo is running because there 2 folders and file in there
2010-12-21_20-22-06
2010-12-21_20-12-33-conversion
voodoo_history_log
Those are the files so i guess im good what about the battery? think i should be ok?
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I don't remember doing anything to the battery. They say to make sure it is fully charged before flashing. Maybe there are some tweaks you can do, somebody else who uses Cognition more will have to answer that.
bames said:
started out with cognition and Axura once it was available.
Cognition, Axura, and Perception were my first three roms and didn't think i would wonder from DG.
Still think DG does great work but i have just about everything with the exception of Darkys (though i have seen a few new ones pop in in the last couple of days i haven't played with Insanity and the ginger clone)......
once i found and flashed Chronos i haven't looked back or missed any other rom enough to flash something else.
So my recommendation would be chronos.
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You've got me interested. I'm going to try out Chronus. I'm a fan of minimalistic roms... it would take allot to sway me from Axura though. It just runs so smooth.
Hello, I just recently purchased a Samsung Captivate on At&t. I go to school with a kid who's totally into developing for android. He rooted my phone and put on the clockwork recovery, and Titanium Backup. We removed the At&t bloatware from the phone and now I'm picking up where he left off and I'm going to attempt to put a ROM onto the phone, I'm just having trouble picking one!
After reading and trying to understand everything, I'm trying to decide between the latest Cognition Rom, Perception Rom, and Paragon RC1.
I'm assuming they're all based on some version of Froyo. I'm looking for the one that will offer stable performance and better battery life than what the 2.1 is giving me now. Also, I couldn't tell but do any of these keep the Samsung UI or keyboard? I kind of actually prefer them to the normal android keyboard and interface.
Thanks!!
Dr3amCast
Well I've never used Paragon. But I have used Perception and Cognition.
Perception is based off of a leaked Froyo (I Believe)
Cognition 3.XX is basaed off the just released Rogers Official Froyo.
Both of those two roms have Swype/Samsung KB's to chose from
Try cognition. I think all of them are pretty equal in quality but cognition was made to keep a stock appearance with increased speed, stability and features while also offering better battery life and gps accuracy. I would say all of the roms you mentioned deserve a flash though. Also serendipity and firefly but who has time for all that.... i do.
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I'm currently running Cognition 3.02 btw
I switched over from Perception 10.1 when Cog 3.0 was released.
just FYI... But as Blazin said. They're all worth a look!
Okay, thanks for all the advice! I think I'm going to try cognition first. I've seen a lot of people using Serendipity. So if I don't like cognition, I might flash back to 2.1 then try that.
No problema.
Just a heads up. Alot of people here say you don't have to, but I like to flash back to stock before any ROM. Just ensures a good flash
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No problema.
Just a heads up. Alot of people here say you don't have to, but I like to flash back to stock before any ROM. Just ensures a good flash
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Yeah, seems like a lot of people disagree but it only takes a few extra minutes and better safe than sorry.
Do a datawipe too
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Okay, just wondering, I'm not sure what a "kernel" is, I'm using "Kernel Version 2.6.29", but do I have to change that as well to successfully switch to Cognition v3.02
thats the stock kernel for the capti ate.
When you flash the rom it will update I it to the set included in the package
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I'm quite sure you will end up flashing all three roms... Highly addictive.
No idea why everybody thinks it's SAFER to flash back to stock first. Delete user data in CWM and everything will be fine. If odin messes up, phone gets disconnected, power goes out, etc. while flashing the bootloader files then your phone is screwed. Well...at least hard to recover. It is NOT safer by any means.
I've tried both perception and cognition.
I really think you should try both of them out and decide.
And you should also look at other roms?? Just saying...
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I have tried most roms on here. So far my absolute favorite is the Contiuum GT rom. Very lean and smokin fast. Second place would go to Cognition.
My best advice is to follow the threads for a bit to see what other users are experiencing. Usually people will post any issues and you can judge if it is crucial to you or not.
Me personally, I've been following phoenix, cog 3.0, and serendipity and so far still not sure which one to go for. I'm running on Cog 2.38b and it's pretty solid with some minor theme tweaks. Why break it if it works right? I'll probably try something new when I get bored.
maybe i am a little biased in my opinion of what ROM i am currently running....as I had a hand in developing it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917727
Phoenix or firefly...
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I've flashed Cognition and Perception, but I have to say that I'm enjoying Phoenix 3.5 the most.
I successfully flashed Cognition onto my phone last night...was enjoying it although didn't notice any improvement in battery life. Today, it wont stay on for more than 3 mintues without rebooting and being stuck at cognition boot screen. So much for that one! Now I just have to figure out how to flash back to the original 2.1...is that odin program hard to use?
Im using cognition 3.02 and love it no problems at all silky smooth. Battery life is ok not great so far
It was my first ROM flash, and along with it i decided to get the gingerbread keyboard, too. I noticed that my captivate seems slower in general now. Screen transitions and stuff like that is fine, but opening apps is usually slower. Like the phone lags a lot. I have it OCLF'd. At least, i did before flashing. It seems to not have erased it.
Can anyone tell me what the sudden slowdown is about? Am i just paranoid?
thanks in advance.
You should not attempt to have two lag fixes. Cognition has voodoo lag fix built in. I would recommend you flash back to stock and then flash Cognition.
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You should not attempt to have two lag fixes. Cognition has voodoo lag fix built in. I would recommend you flash back to stock and then flash Cognition.
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Can't i just un-lagfix the OCLF?
Go back to stock and flash Andromeda 1.1 or 2.1. I've tried many ROMs including that one and nothing matches the speed of Andromeda. I highly recommend it!
Did you disable olcf before flash? If not flash stock start over. Any one who says rom x is best is saying a personal opinion, not fact
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Did you disable olcf before flash? If not flash stock start over. Any one who says rom x is best is saying a personal opinion, not fact
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I can't remember if i did...:/ i have short term memory loss haha. But i just noticed that lagfixing with oclf is impossible since it says i have another lag fix installed...so this is voodoo? things make so much more sense now. so should i do anything?
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Go back to stock and flash Andromeda 1.1 or 2.1. I've tried many ROMs including that one and nothing matches the speed of Andromeda. I highly recommend it!
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I haven't tried any of the other rom but you are right about the speed.... I get zero lag... I'm really impressed with this rom that I have no plans on changing.
Cog is a good ROM but by no means the fastest one out there. Serendipty, Phoenix, Paragon, Andromeda will all give you a much faster / smoother experience.
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Cog is a good ROM but by no means the fastest one out there. Serendipty, Phoenix, Paragon, Andromeda will all give you a much faster / smoother experience.
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Then why is cog so popular?
I just flash to cog yesterday and it was my first time I did this in my SGS (previously I had a hacked Nexus One). I liked it to much, I'm happy with it.
In weeks later I'll give a try to those roms you mencion like Andromeda or Phoenix 'cause u' say they're faster.
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Then why is cog so popular?
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Cog is like the noob default rom.
Be careful when flashing Andromeda because I soft-bricked my phone for 3 days, now I can't even use unless I am somewhere with at least 3-4 bars. I might have screwed it up when I flashed it.
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Be careful when flashing Andromeda because I soft-bricked my phone for 3 days, now I can't even use unless I am somewhere with at least 3-4 bars. I might have screwed it up when I flashed it.
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Please refrain from spreading FUD
If you have a problem with andromeda, please post your issue in the thread. Andromeda has not bricked any phones since its inception in december.
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Seems like now a days there isn't that many people making ROMs like there was back in the Windows Mobile days. Anyways, I'm looking for a AT&T 2.1 ROM w/o the AT&T bloatware. Is there anything out there? I know there are some ROMs that people have cooked up, but I'm looking for something more specific. Such as mentioned above.
If there isn't, is there any way you could assist me in making my own clean ROM, or just point me in the right direction? It seems that there isn't much documentation about how to go about making your own ROM.
Any help would be great.
mbudden said:
Seems like now a days there isn't that many people making ROMs like there was back in the Windows Mobile days. Anyways, I'm looking for a AT&T 2.1 ROM w/o the AT&T bloatware. Is there anything out there? I know there are some ROMs that people have cooked up, but I'm looking for something more specific. Such as mentioned above.
If there isn't, is there any way you could assist me in making my own clean ROM, or just point me in the right direction? It seems that there isn't much documentation about how to go about making your own ROM.
Any help would be great.
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Just to be clear......you are looking for a 2.1 rom?
Cognition would be closest to stock, Continuum also offer an unthemed version which looks like the stock version. If you want to make your own ROM check it out here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928955
Jemack said:
Just to be clear......you are looking for a 2.1 rom?
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This. 2.2 is officially out for the Captivate.
Jemack said:
Just to be clear......you are looking for a 2.1 rom?
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Correct. I'd rather not build off of the Stock 2.2 ROM since from reading everyone's thoughts about it. It's crap.
low99 said:
Cognition would be closest to stock, Continuum also offer an unthemed version which looks like the stock version. If you want to make your own ROM check it out here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928955
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Yeah, I've looked at that ROM. But it looks like he's added things to it... I might tear his down and remove the things that aren't wanted... Making ROMs seemed to be much easier back in the WM days. Made a couple stripped down carrier ones for myself.
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This. 2.2 is officially out for the Captivate.
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Correct. Like I posted above, head into the Captivate General sub-forum and see how many were complaining it wasn't actually a "upgrade".
There are tut all over the place about removing the bloat from the stock roms. As for 2.2 being worse, I cant say much as all stock rom's are pretty bad. 2.2 brought some much needed features to the captivate. Don't take peoples thoughts on it, try it yourself and make up your own mind.
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zelendel said:
There are tut all over the place about removing the bloat from the stock roms. As for 2.2 being worse, I cant say much as all stock rom's are pretty bad. 2.2 brought some much needed features to the captivate. Don't take peoples thoughts on it, try it yourself and make up your own mind.
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Doing a search didn't really land me up with much. But I did find the stock I897UCJF6 files. I thought I could find them in Odin3 but they are hiding in the .exe file. Now time to remove things and test things out. I'd try 2.2 out myself, but if everyone is saying they are crap. No need to test it out myself lol.
Wondering if I'm able to replace the stock kernel with one of the OC'd kernels... Hmm...
mbudden said:
Doing a search didn't really land me up with much. But I did find the stock I897UCJF6 files. I thought I could find them in Odin3 but they are hiding in the .exe file. Now time to remove things and test things out. I'd try 2.2 out myself, but if everyone is saying they are crap. No need to test it out myself lol.
Wondering if I'm able to replace the stock kernel with one of the OC'd kernels... Hmm...
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I will say this for the 2.2 update as I did run it for the better part of a day before I went back to a 2.2.1 based rom. It was better then the 2.1 that came stock on it. Most people that were complaining about it were expecting the stock rom to run like a custom rom or for it to fix all the issues they had with it. While I admit it is a BS rom, if you are going stock then it is better then the 2.1. But like I said it is up to you.
I am sure there is a kernel for it but you may have to look in older posts as most of the custom kernels for a stock rom are based of the KB1 2.2 update, not sure if any are compatible with 2.1 any longer.
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I will say this for the 2.2 update as I did run it for the better part of a day before I went back to a 2.2.1 based rom. It was better then the 2.1 that came stock on it. Most people that were complaining about it were expecting the stock rom to run like a custom rom or for it to fix all the issues they had with it. While I admit it is a BS rom, if you are going stock then it is better then the 2.1. But like I said it is up to you.
I am sure there is a kernel for it but you may have to look in older posts as most of the custom kernels for a stock rom are based of the KB1 2.2 update, not sure if any are compatible with 2.1 any longer.
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Doing a quick look around, it does seem that most of the kernels are for the 2.2 and 2.2.1 ROMs. For example SpeedMod kernel.
So I may need to find the stock 2.2 files and go from there. It doesn't seem as hard as I thought it was going to be, but that's just from doing some quick searching. Do you happen to know the Baseband Version of the latest firmware? If not, then I'll end up finding it and hopefully be able to find it's files online.
mbudden,
The official froyo release is kb1. Cognition is basically stock kb1 with a lagfix injected kernel and much of the "bloat" removed. The 2.2.1 roms such as js5, js7 are noticeably smoother and I often used them without a lagfix enabled.
If you are looking to build a base Rom yourself and don't want to start from scratch, check out doc's kitchen.
newter55 said:
mbudden,
The official froyo release is kb1. Cognition is basically stock kb1 with a lagfix injected kernel and much of the "bloat" removed. The 2.2.1 roms such as js5, js7 are noticeably smoother and I often used them without a lagfix enabled.
If you are looking to build a base Rom yourself and don't want to start from scratch, check out doc's kitchen.
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Yeah, I found the I897UCKB1 .tar file and was taking a peak inside. But interesting. I was looking to remove some of the other things that was added in the Continuum ROM, but the darn .apk's aren't all obviously named. I'll give a look at the Cognition though. Not really into the whole themes and this and that. I like stream lined ROM's. Nothing fancy.
Thanks for that thread though, maybe I should have taken a gander at the I9000 subforums too. lol. Now to figure out how to zip everything back into a .tar file.
Rather than cook up a whole ROM,
upgrade to 2.2 (it is better, ignore the disapointed whiners)
install a kernal of your choice (if you want)
use titanium backup to uninstall the bloat
now you have a stock rom, with a good kernal and no bloat.
P.S. some folks think that just because their lives rovolve arround android, that android pays attention to what they want. People always cry when upgrades arrive because no one at android paid any attention to them.
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Rather than cook up a whole ROM,
upgrade to 2.2 (it is better, ignore the disapointed whiners)
install a kernal of your choice (if you want)
use titanium backup to uninstall the bloat
now you have a stock rom, with a good kernal and no bloat.
P.S. some folks think that just because their lives rovolve arround android, that android pays attention to what they want. People always cry when upgrades arrive because no one at android paid any attention to them.
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The thing is, I just installed Continuum. I just don't like it. I do admit that it is fast. I like the stock icons and I like the stock the stock look and feel. Not to mention, some of the installed stuff I didn't care for. Also I don't need extra lock screens, or colored menus.
But anyways, got the factoryfs.rfs file apart. So basically that's the system folder like it would be in a custom ROM. Now to find out how to Deodex these .apk/.odex files.
Honestly, if you're just looking for the AT&T standard rom without the bloatware, you'd find it a lot easier to just flash back to whatever came with the phone & strip it of bloatware via titanium backup.
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Honestly, if you're just looking for the AT&T standard rom without the bloatware, you'd find it a lot easier to just flash back to whatever came with the phone & strip it of bloatware via titanium backup.
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What's wrong with learning the hard way? That's the easy way out.
Doing it my way will help me understand Android.
Like I said, I used to build my own custom Windows Mobile ROMs for myself. Why not learn how to build my own custom Android ROMs?
If any ROM makers want to share some advice, do so.
Mikey has a good basic tutorial stickied here in development. There is also a guide on deodexing put up recently. Other than that it is pretty much just de/recompiling the apk and jar files to edit. Mikeymike and chancem (serendipity) have an irc and seem willing to provide advice. Sorry for no links but on the phone atm.
Hope you're enjoying the phone btw.
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Mikey has a good basic tutorial stickied here in development. There is also a guide on deodexing put up recently. Other than that it is pretty much just de/recompiling the apk and jar files to edit. Mikeymike and chancem (serendipity) have an irc and seem willing to provide advice. Sorry for no links but on the phone atm.
Hope you're enjoying the phone btw.
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His tutorial is what I'm following as we speak. A lot of the stuff he mentions isn't clearly defined though. So Google has been helpful with that. For example, he doesn't talk about how to deodex the apk/jar/odex files. But that's alright, nothing a little Googling won't fix. Will be also throwing the fixes that have been made in. A lot of reading lol.
But I am, such a great device. Battery life isn't as great as my Blackberry. But hey, it's not that much of a hassle.
Alright, I got most if it down. But when I go to load it via clockwork recovery. I get this "E:can't symlink /system/bin/cat" Any assistance?
I guess I took the "easy" way out.
I have AT&T 2.2 (WAY better than 2.1)
Root
removed unwanted bloat with TiBackup
installed SuperCurio's KB1 + Voodoo KB1 Kernel
This let me have some of the features of a custom ROM that I wanted without having to backup and restore all my apps/etc.
By no means do I have anything against that. It's just I'd rather learn things myself. So if it came time for me to build my own ROM to my liking. I have the know how.
First post, so take it with a grain of noobness.
I would like to get my feet wet in the rooted phone arena by using Voodoo, but I don't see that it has been updated for the Cappy running stock/ ATT Froyo. I see some stuff on the I9000, though, but I'm not sure if that will work, and the information seems somewhat dated.
So a few questions: is there another lagfix I can try that doesn't involve flashing a ROM?
Can I use Voodoo lagfix on my 2.2 Froyo phone?
Should I just nut up and do some more homework and flash to one of the latest ROM's?
You should definitely read more. There are dated kernels for 2.2 that will have lag fixes implemented that you could use, although I would suggest roms.
but reading its best
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First post, so take it with a grain of noobness.
I would like to get my feet wet in the rooted phone arena by using Voodoo, but I don't see that it has been updated for the Cappy running stock/ ATT Froyo. I see some stuff on the I9000, though, but I'm not sure if that will work, and the information seems somewhat dated.
So a few questions: is there another lagfix I can try that doesn't involve flashing a ROM?
Can I use Voodoo lagfix on my 2.2 Froyo phone?
Should I just nut up and do some more homework and flash to one of the latest ROM's?
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Well, If you like Froyo, forget about stock froyo and flash a custom ROM. Cognition is good. Plus the froyo custom ROMS are easier than most to flash. If you are a noob, this is where you should start. just make sure you READ TONS about flashing before you flash the first time. Good luck!
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Well, If you like Froyo, forget about stock froyo and flash a custom ROM. Cognition is good. Plus the froyo custom ROMS are easier than most to flash. If you are a noob, this is where you should start. just make sure you READ TONS about flashing before you flash the first time. Good luck!
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I run the latest froyo version of Cognition and absolutely love it. Ive run into small issues with just about every other rom ive ever flashed but with cognition I dont even run into the casual force close. Its just smooth as butter. I would highly suggest flashing an entire rom as typically the kernel is made to work directly alongside that particular rom.
Read up first though or your going to end up with a pretty little paper weight.
Lagfix on stock is stupid.
Reading and comprehension are the best but consider, when you've picked out a rom youtube it and see if an instructional video has been made on how to flash and watch it, twice if need be. I only recommend these because , being a noob( I speak from being one ) you don't know the time frame between steps, and if it sets on one for a few minutes well..it can be a little un-nerving ,anyway ,custom is the only way to go,.
well it would be different if he asked for 2.3.3 lagfix..