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[ROM] CM Nightlies Report (Progress Towards 6.1.0)

The old thread filled with sparse reports of Cyanogen Nightly release experiences has gotten old in the tooth. As we approach the release of 6.1.0, I feel it necessary to start fresh and record configurations (dates, kernel's, etc) with details that have the potential to benefit us all.
I am currently running the #169 nightly and an underclocked kernel (shooting for battery life at the moment), and have run into no stability issues thus far. This includes use of both wireless and bluetooth features.
Please reply with your positive or negative take on CM nightlies for the Incredible Build #100 or newer. Thank you!
Anecdotal Reports for 169:
-Video camera functions, Infinite focus only
-LEDs function as expected. Please remember Pule under your audio settings
-Stock kernel performs VERY well, however invisibleKs may improve your mileage
Download the newest nightlies from:
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=inc

mp3sum said:
The old thread filled with sparse reports of Cyanogen Nightly release experiences has gotten old in the tooth. As we approach the release of 6.1.0, I feel it necessary to start fresh and record configurations (dates, kernel's, etc) with details that have the potential to benefit us all.
I am currently running the 9/18 nightly when Adrenylyne's underclocked kernel (shooting for battery life at the moment), and have run into no stability issues thus far. This includes use of both wireless and bluetooth features.
Please reply with your positive or negative take on CM nightlies for the Incredible 9/18 or newer. Thanks!
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Can you verify that the built in wifi tethering works (using adrenylynes kernel)? if that doesn't, what about the wifi tethering app, and if it works, what version are you running, pre9?

I ran nightly 9/19 starting last night until now. The email FC problem seemed fixed from the 6.0.2 but i would get random restarts and incredilight would FC alot.
Cant wait for 6.1

i'd recommend using the HTC flashlight apk.. it works without the sense framework (works with cm6).
you can grab it from the themes/apps forum.

dnoyeb said:
i'd recommend using the HTC flashlight apk.. it works without the sense framework (works with cm6).
you can grab it from the themes/apps forum.
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Unless I found the wrong post, the com.htc.flashlight.apk that was ported over from the Desire 2.2 Rom does not use the LEDs, but uses the screen instead. That is pretty gay.

alexdw369 said:
Unless I found the wrong post, the com.htc.flashlight.apk that was ported over from the Desire 2.2 Rom does not use the LEDs, but uses the screen instead. That is pretty gay.
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I'm not sure about CyanogenMod and other AOSP ROMs, but the HTC Flashlight included in froyo uses the LEDs

alexdw369 said:
Unless I found the wrong post, the com.htc.flashlight.apk that was ported over from the Desire 2.2 Rom does not use the LEDs, but uses the screen instead. That is pretty gay.
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must have been the wrong post... it uses the LEDs.
click here.

I am on 9/19 and I'm happy to announce that my Gallery and Music Player can detect pictures and music on BOTH the eMMC and microSD.
However, Gallery still doesn't set pictures as wallpaper.
Running King's kernel but about to switch to Adrynalyne's new Battery Saver kernel.

dnoyeb said:
Can you verify that the built in wifi tethering works (using adrenylynes kernel)? if that doesn't, what about the wifi tethering app, and if it works, what version are you running, pre9?
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I am using the 9/19 version. With adrenylynes kernel the built in wifi does not work.....the pre9 does work. I just tried this kernel to see if it worked or not.....it does not allow adb wireless to work, so I went back to Koush's stock kernel. I have not had any problems running the stock kernel and my battery life is quite good.
^^ Gallery lets me set a pic as wallpaper..

dnoyeb said:
must have been the wrong post... it uses the LEDs.
click here.
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Haha thats the post I found, but I didn't read deep enough. The first post says that it uses the screen INSTEAD of the LEDs. a later post points this out as false. i wish the op had been edited

wwjdd44 said:
I am using the 9/19 version. With adrenylynes kernel the built in wifi does not work.....the pre9 does work. I just tried this kernel to see if it worked or not.....it does not allow adb wireless to work, so I went back to Koush's stock kernel. I have not had any problems running the stock kernel and my battery life is quite good.
^^ Gallery lets me set a pic as wallpaper..
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Gallery lets me set as wallpaper on 9/20... but some dark ones (black wood) look like they're all black.

Does anyone know when 6.1 will be released? I can't wait to be able to hold the back button and close the app.

I can confirm that wifi-tether (packaged and pre-9) both function as expected. No reboots overnight. Uptime of 21 hours, wifi and bluetooth on and off, mostly the former. Installing 9/20, no wipe.

i was running the 9/15 nightly for a few days with minimum apps to test stability. still had the "temp drop" problem on both incoming and outgoing calls. battery life was abysmal (8-10 hours max, light usage...something was keeping my cell standby in the same percentage as display usage and chewing up battery).
last night i got several freezes, reboots, and two battery pulls. so now i'm on 9/20 nightly. so far so good for stability, but already down 20% 2 hours after unplugging. something isn't letting my phone sleep; any idea what it might be, or how to find out? i'm running relatively few apps at the moment, but see no performance differences to when i had a ****-ton of apps/widgets running.
edit: emmc still doesn't mount in windows. shows up as 660 MB according to the OS's "SD Card and phone storage", but all the Gee Bee's are being reported as 6.6 GB under astro.

mcgoo99 said:
i was running the 9/15 nightly for a few days with minimum apps to test stability. still had the "temp drop" problem on both incoming and outgoing calls. battery life was abysmal (8-10 hours max, light usage...something was keeping my cell standby in the same percentage as display usage and chewing up battery).
last night i got several freezes, reboots, and two battery pulls. so now i'm on 9/20 nightly. so far so good for stability, but already down 20% 2 hours after unplugging. something isn't letting my phone sleep; any idea what it might be, or how to find out? i'm running relatively few apps at the moment, but see no performance differences to when i had a ****-ton of apps/widgets running.
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Are you using the most recent Trillian beta? If so, set it to battery saver mode or it will drain the crap out of your battery. The polling frequency on the regular mode is too frequent.

mcgoo99 said:
i was running the 9/15 nightly for a few days with minimum apps to test stability. still had the "temp drop" problem on both incoming and outgoing calls. battery life was abysmal (8-10 hours max, light usage...something was keeping my cell standby in the same percentage as display usage and chewing up battery).
last night i got several freezes, reboots, and two battery pulls. so now i'm on 9/20 nightly. so far so good for stability, but already down 20% 2 hours after unplugging. something isn't letting my phone sleep; any idea what it might be, or how to find out? i'm running relatively few apps at the moment, but see no performance differences to when i had a ****-ton of apps/widgets running.
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I've also had great luck with Adrenylyne's new undervolted kernel.

Asterdroid said:
Are you using the most recent Trillian beta? If so, set it to battery saver mode or it will drain the crap out of your battery. The polling frequency on the regular mode is too frequent.
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no sir
10 chars

mp3sum said:
I've also had great luck with Adrenylyne's new undervolted kernel.
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ok i'll bump-charge and give it a shot. anything's gotta be better than this! sad, because on my Nexus One with stock CM6 + juice defender, i got some 40 hours out of a charge. i miss that phone lol.

mp3sum said:
I've also had great luck with Adrenylyne's new undervolted kernel.
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This.
Started with 6.0.2, upgraded to 9/20 nightly with no wipe. I've previously tried KK, CM6's stock kernel, and adrynalyne's AOSP kernel. Of the four, this newest undervolted kernel is performing like an absolute champ. Tethering (both built-in and pre9) is working, and I am having none of the CDMA signal attenuation issues while also using the WiFi radio that I previously had.
Somebody is getting laid for this.

nordr said:
This.
Started with 6.0.2, upgraded to 9/20 nightly with no wipe. I've previously tried KK, CM6's stock kernel, and adrynalyne's AOSP kernel. Of the four, this newest undervolted kernel is performing like an absolute champ. Tethering (both built-in and pre9) is working, and I am having none of the CDMA signal attenuation issues while also using the WiFi radio that I previously had.
Somebody is getting laid for this.
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sounds awesome, I am installing latest now and will follow suit.

[Q] A good froyo rom for G1

I've tried running Cyanogen's froyo rom on my G1 and it drains the battery quicky and runs sluggish and slow
I am looking for a simple, fast and possibly battery effective froyo rom. Any ideas or links are appreciated.
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using XDA App

Ezterry's port of tmobile's froyo build for the mytouch

AdrianK said:
Ezterry's port of tmobile's froyo build for the mytouch
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Highly agree, best Froyo Rom to date.

tried Ezterrys rom and it still killed the battery pretty quickly. any other suggestions?
i guess its not possible to find a froyo rom that doesnt kill a G1 battery quickly

Try to flash another kernel, just like dumbfuq's or pershoot's.

Yea a lot of froyoroms drain battery but I don't really have that problem because I'm using a extended battery so my suggestion so u never have a battery problem is buy an extended battery
Sent from my HTC Dream using XDA App

DroidFreek said:
Yea a lot of froyoroms drain battery but I don't really have that problem because I'm using a extended battery so my suggestion so u never have a battery problem is buy an extended battery
Sent from my HTC Dream using XDA App
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Id consider it but Im sure i will be getting the G2 soon so I can just get by with the donut for now

Have to admit my battery life is great.
I enable 2G only though because I'm running the phone on AT&Trash.
Dont use wi-fi, bluetooth or use the browser too often though.
Constantly on Facebook, texting and on a phonecall occasionally throughout the night.

wyldkard said:
Id consider it but Im sure i will be getting the G2 soon so I can just get by with the donut for now
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Donut Roms are more than enough as well.. looking forward to the million mark for the Super D update.

I use the Nightly Builds of Cyanogen for my Dream. First things I do is to disable 2G/3G, WLAN, GPS and reduce the brightness of the display (as I did with every single phone I owned so far having these kinds of displays).
Since I use a class 6 SD card, do not install tons of apps anymore and adjust the Cyanogen Mod settings right the phone runs smooth and the battery lasts at least as long as with 1.6.
My CM settings are:
- Compcache 10%
- JIT off
- Dithering off
- keep Home-App in memory
- keep MMS-App in memory
I install apps on the SD card but I only got few at all. Works great for me!
Joe
EDIT: It works for me, not great. Phone is slow sometimes and when I need it most, ADW needs to restart... Kind of annoying.

jdb78 said:
I use the Nightly Builds of Cyanogen for my Dream. First things I do is to disable 2G/3G, WLAN, GPS and reduce the brightness of the display (as I did with every single phone I owned so far having these kinds of displays).
Since I use a class 6 SD card, do not install tons of apps anymore and adjust the Cyanogen Mod settings right the phone runs smooth and the battery lasts at least as long as with 1.6.
My CM settings are:
- Compcache 10%
- JIT off
- Dithering off
- keep Home-App in memory
- keep MMS-App in memory
I install apps on the SD card but I only got few at all. Works great for me!
Joe
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I adjust the same setting the same way, no wif, BT, gps, brightness all the way down and still the battery life dies quick
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using XDA App

[Q] Battery life from 100% charge.

Curious I am, what is everyone's experiences with battery life on their NC using CM7 or any other flavor of root? I charged to 100% and have used it moderately, maybe 2 or 3 hours of constant use spread out over 1d 25min and some odd seconds and I'm at 32% battery. This use includes surfing, browsing fliki HD, and email.
Does that sound about right, better, or worse? Don't get me wrong, I am not expecting 3 days worth of battery life with heavy use, but as I've had my NC less than a week, I'm just curious as to what to expect as far as battery life.
Thanks!
Signed,
In Living Color

Sounds about right, what version of cm7? Ive been moderatley using it for the past 2 days, streaming pandora, playing angry birds rio, and facebooking.
What about a OC?
lol no lie my NC is at 32% battery to

Hrm. Either 31, or 32 I forget which. No, no OC, haven't found a need for it yet. And yeah, did the Pandora thing + Angry Birds as well. Haven't had any issues with my version of CM7 yet, so I figured I'd hold out on updating + installing to internal memory for a 'stable' release. I say 'stable' release only because even though CM7 is in RC's its plenty stable for me.

yea im running the RC and it seems the Battery life has gone way up for me.

Cool, thanks for the insight. Gives me even more to look forward to.

Been running CM7 RC4 with the OC Kernel @ 1.1Ghz off bootable SD and battery life has been very good by my book...now keep in mind, my reference point is my Droid (overclocked to 1.25Ghz), and now my Droid X (overclocked to 1.3 Ghz), both would be down to 30-40% through the course of a typical day). The NC obviously has a bigger battery, but my goal is to root 30 of these and use them as a textbook replacement/tablet pc as a pilot in our school's language art's department. They charge fast so as long as they get a day out of heavy use and can be charge overnight they are worth every penny.

i don't know why, but my nook likes to start apps on its own. Not sure how to do that. there are like a dozen apps open and i am constantly in app killer to save batt.

oh yeah, is there a wway to prevent apps from auo-launching??

bluewhite79 said:
oh yeah, is there a wway to prevent apps from auo-launching??
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http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
Read and learn how Android works.

I'm planning to buy Nook Color very soon, but one thing that stops me atm is battery life.
That's how I plan to use NC:
- games games games, online games included.
- surfing internet.
I thought NC can work off charge for at least 7 hours...

Qwenjis said:
I'm planning to buy Nook Color very soon, but one thing that stops me atm is battery life.
That's how I plan to use NC:
- games games games, online games included.
- surfing internet.
I thought NC can work off charge for at least 7 hours...
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And chances are, once the bugs are worked out of CM7 so that battery drain is corrected and it correctly enters a sleep state, I'm sure it can/will.

Well, I actually meant hours with screen on while playing/surfing net. But yea, sleep mode is essential too.

Qwenjis said:
I'm planning to buy Nook Color very soon, but one thing that stops me atm is battery life.
That's how I plan to use NC:
- games games games, online games included.
- surfing internet.
I thought NC can work off charge for at least 7 hours...
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8-10%/hr running, 2%/hr with the display off if wifi is enabled on CM7. So yes, it easily meets your requirements.

That's exactly what I needed. Thank you.

bluewhite79 said:
oh yeah, is there a wway to prevent apps from auo-launching??
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Not sure if you read what the person below you posted, but I'll just say it here...Android has a built in task manager and using a task killer actually can make your device run slower and battery life much worse. I've had first hand experience with this with my droid.

JLCollier2005 said:
Not sure if you read what the person below you posted, but I'll just say it here...Android has a built in task manager and using a task killer actually can make your device run slower and battery life much worse. I've had first hand experience with this with my droid.
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That wasn't the question he asked- He asked if you could stop something from launching, not how to kill it after it was launched.

CM7 RC4 Battery Life: "Just the facts, ma'am."
I can charge my Nook Color to 100%. Then reboot. Then immediately turn the screen off and let the device lay untouched for 24 hours. After 24 hours of no-touching I find my battery at 67%. I'll note that the wireless connection is not active upon unlocking the screen. It takes maybe 10-20 seconds for the wireless to reconnect. I have never, ever reset my battery statistics.
I don't have much installed on-top of CM7 RC4:
- Adobe Reader
- Google Finance
- Firefox
- Gmail
- Google maps
- NPR News
- Pandora
- Google Reader
- Rockplayer Lite
- Clockwork Mod ROM Manager
- Winamp
- Youtube
If any background process was started on the initial boot, I had nothing to do with it. That is, the process must have started automagically. I do not kill processes or applications. If I suspect something's gone badly then I always reboot to recover.
Editorial: I *-love-* CM7 RC4. For me it's stable, fast, movies play, Youtube works, etc, etc, etc. I likely would have re-gifted my Nook Color if not for CM7. I very much dislike my iPad. A lucky niece or nephew is going to be surprised with their next birthday present. ;-)

wpscully said:
I can charge my Nook Color to 100%. Then reboot. Then immediately turn the screen off and let the device lay untouched for 24 hours. After 24 hours of no-touching I find my battery at 67%. I'll note that the wireless connection is not active upon unlocking the screen. It takes maybe 10-20 seconds for the wireless to reconnect. I have never, ever reset my battery statistics.
I don't have much installed on-top of CM7 RC4:
- Adobe Reader
- Google Finance
- Firefox
- Gmail
- Google maps
- NPR News
- Pandora
- Google Reader
- Rockplayer Lite
- Clockwork Mod ROM Manager
- Winamp
- Youtube
If any background process was started on the initial boot, I had nothing to do with it. That is, the process must have started automagically. I do not kill processes or applications. If I suspect something's gone badly then I always reboot to recover.
Editorial: I *-love-* CM7 RC4. For me it's stable, fast, movies play, Youtube works, etc, etc, etc. I likely would have re-gifted my Nook Color if not for CM7. I very much dislike my iPad. A lucky niece or nephew is going to be surprised with their next birthday present. ;-)
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I'm on nightly 98 but experience the same thing as you. Battery drains pretty quickly even when it's asleep.

Portugal. The Man said:
I'm on nightly 98 but experience the same thing as you. Battery drains pretty quickly even when it's asleep.
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I am on N95, stock kernel, and finally have great battery life. Try using cpuspy and a paid install of system panel to find the cause of your battery drain. I see almost no battery drain when the screen is off and have about 50% deep sleep with an up time of 120 hours.
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk

noname4me said:
I am on N95, stock kernel, and finally have great battery life. Try using cpuspy and a paid install of system panel to find the cause of your battery drain. I see almost no battery drain when the screen is off and have about 50% deep sleep with an up time of 120 hours.
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I upgraded to n100 through Rom Manager, kept the stock kernel instead of using the OC'd kernel. When Rom Manager rebooted I was at 56%, I put it to sleep and have been periodically waking it to check the battery. Two hours later I'm still at 56%! Now since I changed the ROM version and the kernel, I'm not sure which one was to blame, but at this point, I'm leaving well enough alone.
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Question: Say I wanted to go backwards to N95 from N100 --- would I just flash the N95 zip and then the gapps zip like a normal flash? Not that I want to right now because everything is fine, but I was just curious.

Best Battery from different roms and official releases.

Anyone have any views on which of all roms and official releases have best battery?
i think best gingerbread rom is iceandfire

As far as battery life is concerned, my oppinion, nothing beats a clean stock Eclair (official), followed closely by a clean stock Froyo (official). All mods are great, but battery life is better in the official ROMs in my own experience.

HinotoriBR said:
As far as battery life is concerned, my oppinion, nothing beats a clean stock Eclair (official), followed closely by a clean stock Froyo (official). All mods are great, but battery life is better in the official ROMs in my own experience.
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Are you serious?

iceandfire v2.1 is the best ROM I've found so far in terms of battery life. Don't know why, but it just lasts SO long!

I use ice and fire loads its good but I wish it could be a lot better, testing froyomod now, am considering buying a new phone mainly for battery life as the milestones is sooo bad!
Sent from my Milestone using XDA Premium App

mcdevtingz said:
Anyone have any views on which of all roms and official releases have best battery?
i think best gingerbread rom is iceandfire
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As mentioned, nothing beats Eclair. And if we talk about Eclair, nothing beats Telus Lite.

I have CM7 installed.
Your battery mileage may vary depending on your usage habits... But I'm typically a pretty heavy user. Lots of Angry Birds/other games, surfing, Pandora, etc. I go to sleep at around 11pm with my phone unplugged at a full charge (100%), and I can use my phone until the next day mid to late afternoon - that's about 15-18 hours. Granted, a lot of it is when I'm asleep (until about 7am) and during my working hours, but it's still pretty decent considering how I use the phone. ESPECIALLY with all I've heard about CM7 having terrible battery life.
I DO have several apps and tweaks to try to lengthen my battery life though...
Some things you can do:
- install "Network Switcher" from the market. You can set conditions between certain hours and the screen off to turn off WiFi and 3G. I have mine set turn off all data between 11:15pm and 7:15am when the screen is off.
- install the "Toggle 2G" app. This automatically switches the phone to 2G mode when the screen is off. 2G typically sucks less juice than 3G. (get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739530)
- tweak your /system/build.prop file so your wifi scan interval is a higher number. I have mine set to 360 seconds (that's 6 minutes). I don't know about you, but I don't need my wifi scanning every 15 seconds for an open or known signal.
- also in the build.prop file; change your ro.telephony.default_network setting from 3 to 0. 3 means GSM/WCDMA mode; 0 means WCDMA preferred. From everything I've read, WCMDA preferred tends to switch signal types less often, which benefits your battery.
Heck, even if you DON'T have a Milestone w/CM7 installed, these tweaks can help immensely with your battery life.

Froyo should beat out Gingerbread... They're roughly equal for me, but the memory issues of GB make me have to keep my phone on longer to wait for tasks to complete, thus draining more battery overall.

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Yep, I've tried pretty much any Froyo and/or Ginger Bread mods (and I've specially liked CM7 / ShadowMOD, but all other ROMs are great as well), no one is close to the stock Froyo as far as battery life is concerned. But, I have to say, it is not absolutely stock, but, with exactly the same VSEL/CLOCK settings I've tried in other roms (which save some battery since it uses lower vsel).

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Yep, I've tried pretty much any Froyo and/or Ginger Bread mods (and I've specially liked CM7 / ShadowMOD, but all other ROMs are great as well), no one is close to the stock Froyo as far as battery life is concerned. But, I have to say, it is not absolutely stock, but, with exactly the same VSEL/CLOCK settings I've tried in other roms (which save some battery since it uses lower vsel).
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Have u tried the ROM that is banned from XDA yet?

dmo580 said:
Froyo should beat out Gingerbread... They're roughly equal for me, but the memory issues of GB make me have to keep my phone on longer to wait for tasks to complete, thus draining more battery overall.
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Have u tried AutoKiller Memory Optimizer with my recommended settings (see video below)?
http://youtu.be/z1vBcNsDkn0

mcdevtingz said:
I use ice and fire loads its good but I wish it could be a lot better, testing froyomod now, am considering buying a new phone mainly for battery life as the milestones is sooo bad!
Sent from my Milestone using XDA Premium App
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Get either an extra battery or extended battery if u are a heavy user.

pcphobic said:
Have u tried AutoKiller Memory Optimizer with my recommended settings (see video below)?
http://youtu.be/z1vBcNsDkn0
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That doesn't come remotely close to the V6 SuperCharger script.
The minfree levels is only one aspect of it.
AKMO doesn't fix groupings or priorities.
With those settings, all your apps are getting killed at 28 mb - because of the screwy groupings they are in the 5th slot while slot 3 are 4 are basically empty holes.
And that whole "banned rom" spiel is getting pretty annoying.
I'd bet money that HONO's SuperCharged CM7 kicks Cronos' ass with those AKMO settings.

zeppelinrox, have I offended u in anyway?
I have even introduced your method to calibrate battery to other people.
Why do u need to reply in such an arrogant and nasty tone towards me?

I agree with zeppelinrox, running his V6 supercharge scripts work wonders.
And no matter what ROM I use, i always use SetCPU to auto-adjust the processor speed based on certain scenarios. For example, I'm using CM7 right now, which auto overclocks to 1000mhz. That's great for performance but crappy on the battery. However, with SetCPU I can force the CPU to run between 250mhz and 400mhz when the screen is turned off. There's simply no need to let it go up to 1000mhz if I'm not even using the thing! Calls still come through fine, as do emails and messages. But it really extends your battery life. You can go as low as 125mhz, but then things do start messing up. As soon as the screen turns on, the phone is automatically allowed to run at 1000mhz again.
It's also useful for when your phone gets really hot, as a precaution. If my phone reaches 42*C it automatically underclocks as well. I picked that number out of a hat though. It's just a number I felt was too hot based on my own experience with the phone.
SetCPU:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mhuang.overclocking&feature=search_result

pcphobic said:
zeppelinrox, have I offended u in anyway?
I have even introduced your method to calibrate battery to other people.
Why do u need to reply in such an arrogant and nasty tone towards me?
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I think you're reading too much into it. I didn't think he was being arrogant/nasty. He was just being straight forward.
Just my 2 cents though

No not offended.
Everybody knows that gingerbread memory management is screwed up and fiddling with minfree levels alone ain't fixing anything.
AKMO alone does nothing to fix memory management it doesn't even tell you what apps are where.
One set of settings on one rom has a totally different effect on another rom.
The groupings in CM6 and froyo mod are nothing like CM7 and Cronos.
So those settings would make froyo roms dog slow but are kind of aggressive in CM7 and Cronos and of course do nothing to make the launcher more responsive in both cases.
The only way to know what kind of effect minfree levels would have is if you know where the apps are.
And the only way to be certain of where they are is to tell android where to put them.
Which is why the SuperCharger script works on all roms the same way... it puts apps in their place so that the OS will run in a predetermined and predictable fashion and therefore the lowmemorykiller settings will have the exact effect that the user expects.
So no, I'm not offended.
But kind of annoyed that I spent quite a number of weeks perfecting it and somebody who knows this is fiddling around with AKMO settings while they really truly can have a phone with fixed memory management.
btw, if you check the memory groupings with AMM, you will see that AKMO is annoyingly in memory way too often. Which is ridiculous.

zeppelinrox said:
No not offended.
Everybody knows that gingerbread memory management is screwed up and fiddling with minfree levels alone ain't fixing anything.
AKMO alone does nothing to fix memory management it doesn't even tell you what apps are where.
One set of settings on one rom has a totally different effect on another rom.
The groupings in CM6 and froyo mod are nothing like CM7 and Cronos.
So those settings would make froyo roms dog slow but are kind of aggressive in CM7 and Cronos and of course do nothing to make the launcher more responsive in both cases.
The only way to know what kind of effect minfree levels would have is if you know where the apps are.
And the only way to be certain of where they are is to tell android where to put them.
Which is why the SuperCharger script works on all roms the same way... it puts apps in their place so that the OS will run in a predetermined and predictable fashion and therefore the lowmemorykiller settings will have the exact effect that the user expects.
So no, I'm not offended.
But kind of annoyed that I spent quite a number of weeks perfecting it and somebody who knows this is fiddling around with AKMO settings while they really truly can have a phone with fixed memory management.
btw, if you check the memory groupings with AMM, you will see that AKMO is annoyingly in memory way too often. Which is ridiculous.
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Ah yes, now your tone of voice is much better... more professional and more matured as compared to when u said wrote b4.
Thank you for clearing this up.
Hope to see you back in Cronos forum as I recalled how much u were impressed with Cronos Ginger.

Best Battery -> Official 2.1-update1. Simple as that.

pcphobic said:
Hope to see you back in Cronos forum as I recalled how much u were impressed with Cronos Ginger.
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I check it out time to time.
Cronos is good and feeyo is cool but lack of updates, v1.2 had issues plus I needed to test other roms.
Btw the memory managent on cm7 and cronos mimics my strategy from v5 anyway - which was to give the laubcher its own OOM grouping/slot but everything else is just weirdly placed far down the list so still not as good as v5.
Tthen V6 simply out does v5 hands down.
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ART mode and RAM managment..?

I switched to ART mode mode this morning since I read that its faster and wanted to give it a go. However I have read about it but am not totally an expert. When I switched over it booted then rebooted to the ATT logo and hung. I had to use the 3-button combo to get back again after a huge heat up.
Anyway I now notice that in the RAM manager from the home screen I get for example 1.24gb/1.81 like normal and now where I would have had the same reading in Applications Manager In Settings I now get 0.98gb used - 870mb free in "Running". The way it reads seems to have changed and doesnt match the other.
Is any one else using ART and can share some experience on this at all.
Ive Also seen a post about someone mentioning bad signal on ART...?
Cheers.

cooza said:
I switched to ART mode mode this morning since I read that its faster and wanted to give it a go. However I have read about it but am not totally an expert. When I switched over it booted then rebooted to the ATT logo and hung. I had to use the 3-button combo to get back again after a huge heat up.
Anyway I now notice that in the RAM manager from the home screen I get for example 1.24gb/1.81 like normal and now where I would have had the same reading in Applications Manager In Settings I now get 0.98gb used - 870mb free in "Running". The way it reads seems to have changed and doesnt match the other.
Is any one else using ART and can share some experience on this at all.
Ive Also seen a post about someone mentioning bad signal on ART...?
Cheers.
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I don't have root or anything to flash, why not test art?
I do notice a disparity as well, but mine is a little less prevolent-- my variation i think is as simple as fluctuation between redraw in between the two screens. I get 870/874used 0.96/0.95free-- I will say though, it seems to use a little less ram.
I live in a very strong signal area and that said, i don't see any signal difference. I do know some low areas so i can update once I've visited.
I did encounter the lockup at AT&T, that just required a reboot.

Yeah mate with no root for Roms I thought why not try it. I use a third party launcher called lucid and do notice a big improvement in scrolling between home screens and apps relaunching. I was a bit concerned about the different readings in the 2 ram managers and the freeze on boot but so far no issues. Just wondering how others are going and if they are using it since it wasn't in other Samsung devices too.

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Yeah mate with no root for Roms I thought why not try it. I use a third party launcher called lucid and do notice a big improvement in scrolling between home screens and apps relaunching. I was a bit concerned about the different readings in the 2 ram managers and the freeze on boot but so far no issues. Just wondering how others are going and if they are using it since it wasn't in other Samsung devices too.
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I use Nova Launcher, tried Aviate and Atom, I'll look at Lucid.
I also turned off all animation transitions in Dev mode. It's snappy enough to fly between screens instantly, also if you're not aware-- old pro move-- go into S-Voice(if you don't use it, but nobody does) and disable the double tap home function and then home key lag will be gone and the phone FLIES.

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I use Nova Launcher, tried Aviate and Atom, I'll look at Lucid.
I also turned off all animation transitions in Dev mode. It's snappy enough to fly between screens instantly, also if you're not aware-- old pro move-- go into S-Voice(if you don't use it, but nobody does) and disable the double tap home function and then home key lag will be gone and the phone FLIES.
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Cheers mate I'll give that a go. Lucid is a good launcher if you like vertical scrolling. I prefer that on these slightly bigger screens. Also icon resizing. Only set back is no folders. It's also got a side panel for short cuts just like in AOKP. You gotta like it or you will find it hard to get use to I guess.

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Cheers mate I'll give that a go. Lucid is a good launcher if you like vertical scrolling. I prefer that on these slightly bigger screens. Also icon resizing. Only set back is no folders. It's also got a side panel for short cuts just like in AOKP. You gotta like it or you will find it hard to get use to I guess.
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Give the 0transition and no lag a go- it's like a new phone.
Have you ever tried Nova? It has vertical scrolling and icon resizing with folders. The side drawer though I don't really dig.
Have you any legacy apps onboard? I haven't installed older games yet, I'm sure some things will just crash fail.

You have to remember that even though ART is included on the S5s it is still considered experimental and has not been optimized yet.

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You have to remember that even though ART is included on the S5s it is still considered experimental and has not been optimized yet.
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Of course, nobody forgot this. It runs very well so far. I've tested it with all my daily driver applications and a few games that aren't updated for it and I've good results so far.

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You have to remember that even though ART is included on the S5s it is still considered experimental and has not been optimized yet.
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Yeah that's kinda what I thought since I haven't seen it in any other of my devices. Wouldn't mind seeing if anyone else is giving it a go. Was a bit worried after the freeze mate. Thought I was heading for a brick

Seems that ART is good on battery life. After 12 hours I still have 70% left where as I would usually have about 40-50%. Looks like using less RAM and opening apps faster is paying off.

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Seems that ART is good on battery life. After 12 hours I still have 70% left where as I would usually have about 40-50%. Looks like using less RAM and opening apps faster is paying off.
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It's an odd duck, my statistics seem to be garbage but the battery is doing quite well in visible usability. My battery usage stats have Android system @ 22% with Screen on time @ 20% w 4.5hrs(on) and the battery is just now at 46% I can easily hit 6.5-7hrs @ this rate, screen time and who knows what Android system will be at but i have no gdamn accuracy in the numbers other than the screen hours on that add up.
We shall see since I believe both of our Art switches were in the middle of a Dalvik discharge cycle, perhaps borked it all up until next full stats flush/100% charge.

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My first run on ART and I get this. I don't know much about battery drain on this setting but it's consistent. On dalvik I had to charge every night.
1 day and 12 hours. So I'm getting slightly over 50% more.
That's also with the gear2 synced which should take more battery too.

First full charge on ART got 1 day 2 hours and 48 minutes, with 3 hours and 36 minutes on time. Had 37% left. Not bad at all.

ART has mostly eliminated the annoying unlock hangup that I was seeing. As for battery life I can't really tell a major difference; although coming from the i717 going a whole day is a miracle. Most days I end the workday after about 12 hours off charger with 40-50% battery.
If I forget to turn off the hotspot after using it I may see 30%, but that is after 8 hrs streaming data to my tablet and GPS on the old Note.

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ART has mostly eliminated the annoying unlock hangup that I was seeing. As for battery life I can't really tell a major difference; although coming from the i717 going a whole day is a miracle. Most days I end the workday after about 12 hours off charger with 40-50% battery.
If I forget to turn off the hotspot after using it I may see 30%, but that is after 8 hrs streaming data to my tablet and GPS on the old Note.
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You won't see a MAJOR difference between Art and Dalvik. People would like to see it but it isn't there. A few sites have done more imperical things* that said mostly it's close to even with some gains. It's just better in performance of apps you use often, in short.
* http://lifehacker.com/android-art-vs-dalvik-runtimes-effect-on-battery-life-1507264545

Just switched to ART today.....so far so good. All my daily driver apps are working great. Seems like switching to ART free'd up some RAM, im now using like 0.96 gb instead of 1.2 or so.

ikerex said:
Just switched to ART today.....so far so good. All my daily driver apps are working great. Seems like switching to ART free'd up some RAM, im now using like 0.96 gb instead of 1.2 or so.
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I definitely see some improvement in ram usage. I think this is what is also helping with her battery consumption. The only issue I do have is if I run the battery completely out or just need to reboot then it may stick on the boot logo and need the 3-button combo method to get our of it or even pulling the battery. Might happen 1 in every 4 times but worth it for the extra sharpness in performance. I'm happy with it so far.

Aftet switching to ART ive had lags all arund phone ,,, not much difference in baterry tho

I do have a lot of apps turned off and I am using a different launcher so maybe that helps. Not much extra installed either.