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Right Now im run a newest Hero Rom from MLIGN. For Some reason im get heavy amounts of lag when opening apps and etc. How can i fix this?

Hardware?
Current Setup?

ShadowLegion said:
Right Now im run a newest Hero Rom from MLIGN. For Some reason im get heavy amounts of lag when opening apps and etc. How can i fix this?
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dont use hero?
If you want apps to open faster, use a BFS kernel
If you dont want rosie to slow down over time...use a regular kernel w/o bfs
those are pretty much the only options

hero roms are generally slower, but i found to have a class 4 or 6 card to help things go a lot smoother. still, there are some hiccups, but its a huge difference

Reason #38 why Hero should die...
ShadowLegion said:
Right Now im run a newest Hero Rom from MLIGN. For Some reason im get heavy amounts of lag when opening apps and etc. How can i fix this?
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That "some reason" is because the Hero has a 1/3 more RAM than the G1. A whole 96mb.
Not trying to be patronizing, but the only thing you can do is switch to an AOSP ROM, or disbale Rosie (Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > TouchFlo > Clear Defaults - will only work if Launcher.apk is present in /system/app)

What roms would u recommend?

ShadowLegion said:
What roms would u recommend?
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All current ROMs are built off the same dump, the only thing you can really change with Hero is the kernel. Hardly any of the "Devs" who release Hero ROMs have any idea how to compile the kernel.
Take your pick, you won't find one which will have a significant speed increase over another (unless they're based on a new dump).

ShadowLegion said:
What roms would u recommend?
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I recommmed sense hero unthemed or maybe kingklick hero 2.3.
Also try cyan rom with a hero theme

Alright thx I'm gonna try a couple out. How do I install the BFS?

ShadowLegion said:
Alright thx I'm gonna try a couple out. How do I install the BFS?
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You need to flash the boot.img w/ bfs for your rom through fastboot

I am currently on sensehero 1.3.3 themed, its pretty sweet. but so far, kingklick 2.3 is going to most stable imo.
kingklick 1.9 is a guaranteed winner as well.

why do you want to install BFS? Cyan said that BFS is not all the way worked out yet.

KiNgxKxlicK and OpenEclair differences?

I have been using cyanogen for a while and want to get into eclair.
I have seen that there are 2 that interest me, KiNgxKxlicK and openEclair. What are the differences/benefits from one another.
Will my current apps work fine with these or will i have to wipe ext and reinstall them?
Chris

As much as I would love to stay with OpenEclair because of their "popularity", Kings Eclair ROMs have always felt smoother to me(and as of now, his includes Live Wallpapers).

wardy277 said:
I have been using cyanogen for a while and want to get into eclair.
I have seen that there are 2 that interest me, KiNgxKxlicK and openEclair. What are the differences/benefits from one another.
Will my current apps work fine with these or will i have to wipe ext and reinstall them?
Chris
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You are going to have to wipe. Both roms are really good. Openeclair is having some issues with the included live wallpapers but the ones from the market work. Just remember, there are no drivers for video in eclair so most video won't work.
My suggestion for your apps is to back up the ext first then use "droid explorer" to batch reinstall.

Wow, this ROM works great. But i think i will stay with Cyanogen for now. I cant bear not having fast games and 3d stuff.
Anyone know when the hardware drivers are going to be released?
Chris

[REQ] Eclair browser /w multitouch and user profiles for AOSP 1.6

I'm using TheOfficial AOSP 1.6 rom , and was wondering if anyone can give me an update.zip for the Eclair browser.
The one with MultiTouch and user profiles like (iPhone , Desktop , Internet Explorer 6 , Android , etc.)
Thank You.

how about ripping it from cyanogen's latest donut rom and installing it yourself?

r3s-rt said:
how about ripping it from cyanogen's latest donut rom and installing it yourself?
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i pulled the browser from cyanogens latest donut rom , pushed it to my phone , but it won't install...

i would appericate if someone know's of an update.zip and can share it with me , or perhaps make me one. thanks for your time.

i really hope you get that working im thinking of going bact to donut or cupcake but will miss a few things

Your only chance of getting this to work is ripping it from various Donut ROMs that include an Eclair browser and pushing it to /system/app or just intalling it. If it doesn't install, it won't work. I don't think offical AOSP even supports multi-touch.

I thought multi touch was enabled in the kernel, not the app. I could have sworn I read that somewhere.

[Q] 2.2 Roms in a nutshell

Ok, i've been absent from the forums for some time and have been trying to play catch up... If someone who has been keeping up would just help me get a few things straight it would be awesome.
please just put the number and if its correct or the answer or w.e.
What I think I know:
1. CyanogenMod- Established dev who releases nightly updates (CM6?) to his tweaked build of rooted mostly ASOP 2.2, which recently (thanks to a new kernal?) began working on our CDMA Hero’s.
2. Most 2.2 ROMs are based off of one of the CM6 nightlies, then customized with themes and tweaks
3. “CyanogenMod-6 for Hero CDMA - V6.0.0 (09/18/2010)” is one of these, and has been tweaked minimally, and is considered a stable build as far as CM6 goes
4. “FroYo 2.2 – CM6- Vanilla” is basically same as above, just complied from a differently “nightly”, while “Extremely Blue” and “BlackMod” are the same, just themed
5. The main (only?) NON–CM6 based options for 2.2 are…
a. asopMod v.03m = which is a very ASOP build, includes OC
b. NFX-Hero 2.2.1.update1 = slimed down ASOP, includes OC and JIT option
Questions:
6. If I want the CM6 nightly updates, is there an updater app in any of these ROMS’s, like in Fresh Hero 2.4 (what I’m used to), or do I have to pull an update.zip from somewhere (or something)?
7. Do some phones work with JIT enabled, and others don’t? and if so is there a way to tell without just trying
8. If I'm set on 2.2 should I check out any other ROMs than those I mentioned
9. Is there a standout (stable) kernal right now?

Just want to say:
NFX-Hero 2.2.1 is just the version number. It is still based on HTC Sense 2.1.
There is currently no Sense 2.2 port for the Hero.
As for the stable kernel, I've heard good things about this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756774
specifically [email protected] 09/14/2010, people refer to it as "#14 kernel"

teddypepper52 said:
Ok, i've been absent from the forums for some time and have been trying to play catch up... If someone who has been keeping up would just help me get a few things straight it would be awesome.
please just put the number and if its correct or the answer or w.e.
What I think I know:
1. CyanogenMod- Established dev who releases nightly updates (CM6?) to his tweaked build of rooted mostly ASOP 2.2, which recently (thanks to a new kernal?) began working on our CDMA Hero’s.
Cyan is the almighty grand pubba of AOSP and was one of there first to release roms in the mainer we see them now. He does not do everything and all roms as he has allot of help from other devs, for us its Darch who maintains the Heroc version of cyanogen (sorry if I forgot some of you other devs)
2. Most 2.2 ROMs are based off of one of the CM6 nightlies, then customized with themes and tweaks
All of the roms you see for the heros here that are AOSP based com from darch's and then cyans repo period, nightlies are built roms while we theme built roms roms deving is done from source and can be taken from different time and snap shots so nightly means nothing then.
3. “CyanogenMod-6 for Hero CDMA - V6.0.0 (09/18/2010)” is one of these, and has been tweaked minimally, and is considered a stable build as far as CM6 goes
The stable build of cm6.0 is from the combined deving of cyan, darch and alot of other people to bring the best of wheat works and leave out what doesn't. Nightlies usually are adding what seems to work but is not always guarenteed
4. “FroYo 2.2 – CM6- Vanilla” is basically same as above, just complied from a differently “nightly”, while “Extremely Blue” and “BlackMod” are the same, just themed
Black mod is a theme, extreme blue is a themed rom compiled from cyan/drach's source vinilla is a terms used to describe a stock rom which is what cm6.00 stable and anyhting else that comes from the repo.
5. The main (only?) NON–CM6 based options for 2.2 are…
a. asopMod v.03m = which is a very ASOP build, includes OC
b. NFX-Hero 2.2.1.update1 = slimed down ASOP, includes OC and JIT option
I'll go ape **** on this but asopMod v.03m is from cyan's source ino at first he tried to make it seem like he compiled from AOSP source but the fact is he uses cyans like almost everone else and if you check his thread now he given the props the the cyan team as he should have at first.... NFX-her is a sense based rom from android 2.1
Questions:
6. If I want the CM6 nightly updates, is there an updater app in any of these ROMS’s, like in Fresh Hero 2.4 (what I’m used to), or do I have to pull an update.zip from somewhere (or something)?
Not yet but that would be nice nightlies are not considered stable and there for i dont think theyll be added to an updater like cm updater or fresh updater but when we start seeing more stable builds you'll see the updater used, cm updater is on cm6 right now just nothing to update
7. Do some phones work with JIT enabled, and others don’t? and if so is there a way to tell without just trying
All phones should work with JIT (Just in Time) dalvik compiler, whether they run betters is a different story but I have never had issues
8. If I'm set on 2.2 should I check out any other ROMs than those I mentioned
For sense I like fresh as he seems to be the best sense dev (imo) around here for AOSP you go with the grand master Cyan and his cm6 (for the hero) there are some other devs out there that make roms for other phones but most of them still use Cyan's repo.
9. Is there a standout (stable) kernal right now?
Yes Decadence
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if anyones see's an error in what i posted please correct me.

Any froyo rom is going to be based off of CM6. The nightlies are built every night from any changes made that day. They are considered beta, however most will find no issues at all. If you flash CM6 the Jit setting is a quick change and will not screw up the phone. You just go into setting>cyanogenmod setttings>performance settings and check or uncheck jit and reboot. There is a ROM Manager app in CM6, but you have to install clockwork recovery so I am not sure what will show up in the ROMs option or what else it does because I do not want to install clockworks. As mentioned a lot are using #14.

unCoRrUpTeD said:
Any froyo rom is going to be based off of CM6. The nightlies are built every night from any changes made that day. They are considered beta, however most will find no issues at all. If you flash CM6 the Jit setting is a quick change and will not screw up the phone. You just go into setting>cyanogenmod setttings>performance settings and check or uncheck jit and reboot. There is a ROM Manager app in CM6, but you have to install clockwork recovery so I am not sure what will show up in the ROMs option or what else it does because I do not want to install clockworks. As mentioned a lot are using #14.
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not a lot shows up in the downloads section for rom manager on the hero. there's 4 selections, and none of them include cm6. it's mostly useless in my experience.
hopefully they update the downloads list soon.

Brandito said:
not a lot shows up in the downloads section for rom manager on the hero. there's 4 selections, and none of them include cm6. it's mostly useless in my experience.
hopefully they update the downloads list soon.
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Actually i was referring to cm updater which is similar to the fresh updater... when we see more stables from cm6 and up it'll start showing some it that. I personally don't care for rom manager.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

ASimmons said:
Actually i was referring to cm updater which is similar to the fresh updater... when we see more stables from cm6 and up it'll start showing some it that. I personally don't care for rom manager.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
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rom manager could use some work to make it a bit more useful. i like it for queuing up roms to flash and making things a bit more automated, however i'm not sure it clears the dalvik cache when it does its thing so i generally have to do it myself anyways.
i'll have to check out fresh updater. i have cm updater, installed from the market, does it actually come with cm6 now? i never saw it when i flashed the 9/18 and already had it installed when i clean flashed the latest nightlies.

Brandito said:
rom manager could use some work to make it a bit more useful. i like it for queuing up roms to flash and making things a bit more automated, however i'm not sure it clears the dalvik cache when it does its thing so i generally have to do it myself anyways.
i'll have to check out fresh updater. i have cm updater, installed from the market, does it actually come with cm6 now? i never saw it when i flashed the 9/18 and already had it installed when i clean flashed the latest nightlies.
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Well fresh updater is pretty much the same as cm updater but its only for fresh roms. cm updater might not be part of cm6 I can't, it probably isnt. I actually would like it to be as with cm5 and below it also had themes in it. hopefully itll come back when theres more cm6 stables.

Thanks all. Didn't want to jump into 2.2 without knowing what I was getting into. I decided to start with CM6.0.0, and so far its been great. As mush as I love all things Freshh, I'm mad I waited this long. I DO miss the Senses dialer (minus the ungodly lag) and I havent made up my mind on the keyboard, but the overall speediness is killer.
Hell yea froyo/ CM.

porting apps to 1.6

Is there a way to port latest gapps and apps like phone.apk and the browser etc to android 1.6?
i'm thinking a android 1.6 ROM with all froyo applications that it will look like froyo and have a working camera etc
why try getting froyo to work when we can improve what we already have
at the moment i'm installing Linux on my laptop and i'm gonna get cracking at this any developers interested in my idea?

SAuRoN92 said:
Is there a way to port latest gapps and apps like phone.apk and the browser etc to android 1.6?
i'm thinking a android 1.6 ROM with all froyo applications that it will look like froyo and have a working camera etc
why try getting froyo to work when we can improve what we already have
at the moment i'm installing Linux on my laptop and i'm gonna get cracking at this any developers interested in my idea?
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Nice idea, first of all, I suggest to try every app to see what works..
I think the big porting pb for the ones that don't work will be the newer APIs

so basically we need to re dev the apps from scratch?

i sense alot of coding involved in this project {sigh}

Is it possible to create such a patch which will be able to enable JIT on 1.6 Roms?