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I reset my battery stats 2 days ago after doing a full charge and drain and full charge again my battery is at 94% after 1 hour. My time without signal is only 3%, phone idle is 42%, and only 15 minutes without sleeping. Does this sound normal or am I being anal?
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That kind of sounds like mine. Extrapolating the percentage loss over time for me almost always yields a rate of about 100%/24 hours discharge, +/- 3 hours depending on use. I've always been concerned about the battery, especially after hearing so many people saying they get almost 48 hours on a single charge with moderate/heavy use
My battery is new. My Hero is less than a month old, but I haven't put on a custom ROM yet. I think a custom ROM and kernel is supposed to help. Mine is rooted and running SetCPU with profiles. I found that whenever my phone felt hot (which is a lot of the time, actually), it's usually an indication that battery is draining fast. I also read many peoples' Hero's run very cool, and don't get that warm when charging. Mine can get pretty warm when charging, close to 40C, and 42-43C when using while charging. These observations have caused me to wonder if my battery is bad, or if newer Heros are somehow different from old ones. Does this sound like yours?
I've learned that the battery usage is not linear.
So dont' worry about 1 hr sampling of your battery, use a minimum of 4-6 hrs and if it still losing 5%/hour after that w/out much use, then you may have an issue, but I wouldn't worry about it.
I'm using Crunchy's buufed rom with the OC'd kernel. My temp stays pretty even but I did add auto memory manager yesterday. I wonder if that's contributing.
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I just figured it out. The stock sms is still locking up the dialer and keeping the phone awake. I figured that was fixed in these custom roms. So I disabled all notifications on stock sms and downloaded handcent. All is well.
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I believe your aren't supposed to use things like autokiller and auto memory manager with an Oc'd rom.
I agree on the task manager but I thought the memory manager would tweak the built in settings from conservative to aggressive. Am I wrong?
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It still does that but I've read posts by devs saying not to use autokiller with and overclocked rom, I don't understand why either but that's what it said.
Thanks for the heads up!
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No problemo.
Has anyone tried the HTC Desire battery fix and confirms it works on the SGS?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
Some people have implied it works but I'd like to know what you think?
Yesterday i was make all from this HTC Desire thread give, except wipe battery stats because i not found this thing in clockwork recovery menu, and i can say , it work for our device too. My Galaxy S battery last pretty better-smoother:
After all, i powered on my device in midnight 00:00, morning about 8:00 was battery 100% too. Standby without APN connection, recieved one SMS only.About 10:30 was 99% have one short about minute,recieved call. On 12:00 make APN conection (2G) and about 20 min was on the internet, some news page, company pages, etc., and battery dropped to 97%, about 14:00 some calls 3-4 min, dropped to 95%. On 15:00 was on the APN about half hour,battery go on 93%. To now on 19:00 hour battery is on 92%...I think this is great thing, beause before my galaxy was from 100% to empty about one and half day....
Next thing i use only when i need it, usualy stay:
1.WiFi off
2.APN only when need Internet(2G), rest is off
3.Bluetooth off
4. Animation off (in Settings)
5.Autorotate off
6.GPS off
7.Network location off
8.Autosync off
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PS (Sorry if my english is bad)
Just given this a try...will report back in a few days.
I tried it... i didnt notice a SIGNIFICANT change... although i did switch from ryan's lagfix to the voodoo one... so that maybe have had an effect. Overall it feels like the battery life is about the same...
Also no change for me, after 8 hours of use with wifi or 3g on whole time, dropped 35%.
I forgett say, i have stock I9000XXJF3 rooted firmware,newer reflashed any other firmware, none lagfix apk, or other etc. system things apk, expect task manager and startup manager... From 19:00 when a haved 92%, and now on 1:20 i have 89% with 15 minute calling, 4 SMS sended/recived, about half hour internet surfing on 2G, and 10 min play bubbles game. Tommorow i will tried GPS lasting and wifi. For me more than fantastic battery duration...I was Make exactly how read on HTC Desire thread, except wipe battery stats, but reboot i was make from recovery menu, not usualy with on/off button or some reboot apk, becaus, i think maybe battery stats itself refreshed-calibrated !?
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Well, I did this last night, and my phones battery status is now showing 98% after 11.5 hours.
To be fair, I was asleep for most of this time, and have only brought the phone out of standby a couple of times to check the time.
I also have APN/bluetooth/Wifi switched off, and i'm using only 2g networks.
Still, 2% in almost 12 hours isn't bad is it?
Nope....
I just tried it this morning. I still have the same battery consumption per hour with the same amount of using the phone. So I guess it's not working for me.
ibizaGTi said:
Well, I did this last night, and my phones battery status is now showing 98% after 11.5 hours.
To be fair, I was asleep for most of this time, and have only brought the phone out of standby a couple of times to check the time.
I also have APN/bluetooth/Wifi switched off, and i'm using only 2g networks.
Still, 2% in almost 12 hours isn't bad is it?
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miro666 said:
I forgett say, i have stock I9000XXJF3 rooted firmware,newer reflashed any other firmware, none lagfix apk, or other etc. system things apk, expect task manager and startup manager... From 19:00 when a haved 92%, and now on 1:20 i have 89% with 15 minute calling, 4 SMS sended/recived, about half hour internet surfing on 2G, and 10 min play bubbles game. Tommorow i will tried GPS lasting and wifi. For me more than fantastic battery duration...I was Make exactly how read on HTC Desire thread, except wipe battery stats, but reboot i was make from recovery menu, not usualy with on/off button or some reboot apk, becaus, i think maybe battery stats itself refreshed-calibrated !?
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Wow, that's seriously amazing guys. No noticeable improvements here. Followed the procedure, it was 100% at 8am. It's 6pm now, and after around 25 texts, 75 minutes of 2g calls and 5 minutes of 2g browsing, I now have 27% battery left. Doesn't seem like anything has improved.
I'm on JM7 with voodoo, btw.
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have good succes with disabling power saving mode, so the brightness mode only is, as i set to be, my batterytime has improve significant.
911rsr said:
have good succes with disabling power saving mode, so the brightness mode only is, as i set to be, my batterytime has improve significant.
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Yeah, and power saving mode on the display is annoying anyways.
This method seems like voodoo (not the lagfix voodoo), but many people on many devices seem to swear by it.
If you're not happy with battery life, get spare parts off the market and look into what's eating up the battery life. Check your data-sucking widgets, wifi sleep policy, screen brightness settings, etc. Get rid of those apps that are mis-behaving and turn down the frequency on widget data.
Wiping batterystats.bin file after a full charge usually helps if you haven't tried that.
Also, if this is your first smartphone with a big bright display and a fast cpu, get used to the fact that the battery isn't going to last as long as your Razr did, not anywhere near as long.
Get a spare battery (the SGS battery is so thin it fits in my wallet without even noticing it's there, get a spare desk charger for your office and keep a charger in the car. Dock/charge the thing when you have the chance to keep the % up while you're away from the charger, and stop worrying over this.
With virtually every new "ROM" I follow on this device and the Nexus One, the first and biggest complaint is usually "battery life sucks" in the early release stage; then the complaints start disappearing as the battery stats get a chance to settle down.
Yes, I did tried that 'HTC Desire' Method.
On my previous firmware JM5,
80% 18hrs
74% 1 Day 1 hrs 47min
And lasted until the 3rd day before I had to plug in the charger. All this with Wifi off and idling most of the time.
For JPC,
The battery level was awful until I applied the wifi fix for JPc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774507&page=5
Currently, my galaxy s is on 28% approaching 3 days (72 hours). So i guess in my case the battery level did improved. All this with playing games, wifi on (off when the screen is off) and movies. So the usage definitely increased, yet the battery still stands strong
Oh and another thing, the brightness level on JM5 was 30 (android lowest). I discovered Dimmer after that, which promptly reduced the brightess to 10 for JPC. That might explain the better battery part a bit
erm why does disabling power saving mode increase the battery life? i thought it supposes to save the power instead? My brightness is already set to the lowest means i dont need to enable power saving mode? wads the difference of enabling and dis-enabling.
Same question. Then why it's called Power Saving mode?
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Same question. Then why it's called Power Saving mode?
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During this mode, the screen's brightness will adjust to the color/intensity of the image projected on your screen. If the image is bright, the brightness will go down in order to safe battery life.
If the image is dark (like most of the SGS's UI) it will increase the brightness because dark colors don't drain as much of the battery.
This sounds pretty confusing, but when you think about it, it makes sense.
I disabled this mode, because i think i conflicts with the automatic brightness setting =D
QuickSettings did the trick for me, if i'm in a dark area i disable automatic brightness and go for the lowest setting (Still brighter than an Acer Liquid or HTC Desire if you ask me ! AMOLED IS GREAT !)
So basically it means that by disabling the power saving mode save the power more instead? As it does nt increase the brightness nor decrease automatically?
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I have tried this desire fix and it achieved no improvement at all.
I have heard that the best thing is to let battery drain then charge whilst phone is off.. but its too impractical to do this all the time..
I may be wrong but wasn't someone with good battery life going to share the batterystat file? was there someone mentioning a fix like this?
Also if you have 3 batteries how does that tie into the battery stats file.. after GPS fixing this is now seeming like a big problem, a few people i know and from an Australian forum have been disappointed with the battery life, and some people on here are getting 2-3 days
A guy from work tested it before taking it back and without sim, network, wifi etc got 23 hours in standby.
The website states something like 300 hours in standby? I think that is BS in fact on the samsung galaxy Australian site, they have replaced the battery standby to TBA...
Anyway after samsung took his device and 'tested it' they said the hardware was all okay, here is the new firmware.
As soon as I see him I will report what fw samsung gave him to 'fix' his battery life.
I call shannigans on samsung.... again!
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Wow, that's seriously amazing guys. No noticeable improvements here. Followed the procedure, it was 100% at 8am. It's 6pm now, and after around 25 texts, 75 minutes of 2g calls and 5 minutes of 2g browsing, I now have 27% battery left. Doesn't seem like anything has improved.
I'm on JM7 with voodoo, btw.
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A you sure is not in backgrond AutoSync, or GPS, or Network location is off. And very important make exatly procedure step by step from Desire thread...Im now after 38 hours (day and half) on 70% with my usual using (about hour 2G internet, 30 minute call, 4-5 SMS, and 10 min GPS with network location. BUT ALL MAKE OFF AFTER USING, when go on Standby)....Impresive realy?
I thinking make same procedure with my old HTC Touch Diamond 2...
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dan 6a said:
I have tried this desire fix and it achieved no improvement at all.
I have heard that the best thing is to let battery drain then charge whilst phone is off.. but its too impractical to do this all the time..
I may be wrong but wasn't someone with good battery life going to share the batterystat file? was there someone mentioning a fix like this?
Also if you have 3 batteries how does that tie into the battery stats file.. after GPS fixing this is now seeming like a big problem, a few people i know and from an Australian forum have been disappointed with the battery life, and some people on here are getting 2-3 days
A guy from work tested it before taking it back and without sim, network, wifi etc got 23 hours in standby.
The website states something like 300 hours in standby? I think that is BS in fact on the samsung galaxy Australian site, they have replaced the battery standby to TBA...
Anyway after samsung took his device and 'tested it' they said the hardware was all okay, here is the new firmware.
As soon as I see him I will report what fw samsung gave him to 'fix' his battery life.
I call shannigans on samsung.... again!
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Charge with phone off while you sleep shouldn't be too hard, unless you need the phone for incoming calls or alarms.
I don't believe batterystats.bin can be shared amongst phones, it's really just a log of your own phone's battery performance, if I understand it correctly.
Three batteries (like you and I have) will almost certainly confuse the battterystats file, unless all three batteries have exactly the same performance characteristics.
300 hours in standby...? Well, those kind of stats are always under "optimal" conditions. Optimal for any smartphone would be to have the phone in 2G only, wifi off, BT off, syncing off, all widgets off, location off, etc, etc, etc; basically just your phone in cell standby and not being used for anything else. My Nexus One, which gets little to no use now, used to last no more than 18 hours as my everyday phone, now with Froyo on it, a few weather widgets, wifi on, location on, etc, etc, it will last several days off the charger. I think we all just use our phones a LOT more than we realize, and that the display chews up more battery than we think.
Looking forward to what new firmware Sammy gives your friend.
This really helped me and I'm dead serious, after flashing a lot of roms and somtimes charging to only 50-70 percent and then disconnecting it seemed that my battery drained way to fast! I followed this:
1: Charge phone whilst on till LED is green.
2: Disconnect phone from charger, power it off.
3: Reconnect to charger with phone powered off and allow to charge till LED is green.
4: Disconnect the phone from charger, power it on. Once completely powered on, turn it off again and reconnect to charger until LED is green.
5: Reboot into recovery with clockworkmod and wipe battery stats.
And now after 5 hours with about 20 sms send/received I still have 93% battery, normally it was like 83 or lower by then, so I'm very happy! thanks for posting
I have read a load of threads relating to the battery life, but this is slightly different. I'm on jm1 official and have been for weeks, its was fine until a day ago, now I'm sitting at work, watching the battery percentage go down everytime i look at it, I'm now talking about now when I'm using 3g, just when phones idle.
I went to sleep last night and unplugged phone before I did, fully charged. Woke up and it was on 94%....
Really my question is, is there any way to find out what's using all my battery apart from the built in function which seems to only refresh every hour! I'm not looking for juice defender or such apps
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sensi_ said:
I have read a load of threads relating to the battery life, but this is slightly different. I'm on jm1 official and have been for weeks, its was fine until a day ago, now I'm sitting at work, watching the battery percentage go down everytime i look at it, I'm now talking about now when I'm using 3g, just when phones idle.
I went to sleep last night and unplugged phone before I did, fully charged. Woke up and it was on 94%....
Really my question is, is there any way to find out what's using all my battery apart from the built in function which seems to only refresh every hour! I'm not looking for juice defender or such apps
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Spare parts can give you, sometimes, some rough approximations. Really, if you started experiencing issues one day, you should try to remember what you downloaded most recently, it might be poorly coded and you should look to replace it with competing software.
Also, there are somethings you wouldn't want to intentionally or unintentionally leave running in the background. Use task manager (not ATK cuz it doesn't track "running" processes very well unless they've updated) to find out if anything is running. Even the marketplace will run in the background and not let your phone properly sleep.
Also, 6 percent seems about right. 2% for all services and 3g off, 6% for 3g? I'll have to look into it when I'm not on my phone. Especially if you dress your batteries by running them down to 0s%, this is bad to do to li-on batteries, I don't know how long it takes to feel the effects but short cycles are better for the batteries health.
Ok, 3g is never on at my house I can't get it there anyway.
The only reason I run it down to 0% is because I'm using my phone and it doesn't last, its stupid to say use it in low cycles because then I'm really only getting 20% battery life anyway...
I have advanced task manager but don't really use it from what ive read I shouldn't have to. And I had thought about the recent apps I've installed and I have installed nothing much new apart from angry birds
Just not happy with the noticeable change in the space of a few days.
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c'mon, my phone drops like 10% every night. once even 30%, i've grown to live with it.
be glad you're only dropping 6% really. lol.
Adevem said:
c'mon, my phone drops like 10% every night. once even 30%, i've grown to live with it.
be glad you're only dropping 6% really. lol.
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If consumers keep "living" with things then they deserve the crap they get. As a consumer, you have the right to be heard so make sure the people you're giving your hard earned cash to is taking your feedback and providing products and services for YOUR needs, not the company's needs.
I'm loosing 10% every night too. It's a joke and I'm hoping the updates will improve it somewhat.
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If consumers keep "living" with things then they deserve the crap they get. As a consumer, you have the right to be heard so make sure the people you're giving your hard earned cash to is taking your feedback and providing products and services for YOUR needs, not the company's needs.
I'm loosing 10% every night too. It's a joke and I'm hoping the updates will improve it somewhat.
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ye i know. but funny thing is, it's rather random. with the same settings and nothing changed at all. sometimes overnight, it drops close to none. and some nights, it drops 10%.
i've lost 10% over 4 hours today with no usage (idle) so lol. i'm glad i'm at least getting 2 days worth of usage.
let's hope this famous froyo does something. sometime soon...
Make sure all applications are dead (ie. use samsung task manager).
Turn off apn (so that you can guarantee no apps are using data).
If you do those two things, I'm sure you won't lose more than 5% overnight.
Personally, if I do that, I don't lose more than 1% overnight.
maybe it's due to over-flashing and all. de-calibrates the battery or whatever. either way, meh.
i've probably only got this calender widget refreshing itself every 12 hours to update the day's events and my Google account on active sync. maybe some applications screwing up somewhere.
to point out, a fresh flash always gave me no problems with battery draining. (after "re-calibrating")
just updated my phone to the TEST firmware JPJG8 which is currently the latest one available thru kies which includes arabic, and have seen no changes from the original firmware the phone came with ( Originally bought from Abu Dhabi with whatever firmware that had the android market not being available )
toying with juice defender for 2-3 days my SGS laged like hell even with the RyanZ lag fix OCLF from the market and it said that i saved 1.5% more juice tho i didnt see any diff with batt, it still drained fast (full charge overnight + extra charge with phone off on my way from home to work and starting @ 100% once leaving my car and ending @ 30-20% in the afternoon about 4-5pm, need to charge a little more if i wanted it to last till 10pm T_T )
deleted it today and thought why not simply use the extended control widgets to disable the connection when the screen was off + switch off the auto sync, like how the program did but manually and amazingly batt life felt like a big nasty battery i felt the diff immediatly.
kept the program juice plotter to see how steep the batt was used to compare the results.
1. keeping my phone on 2g almost all the time except for when i need to browse the net/use msn on phone - i do use facebook/twit and i might be missing the fast notifications but 2g is good with those 2 and battery life sure is extended as i can see.
2. closing the apn when locking the phone and bringing it up when screen is on is a great idea and u can almost instantly tell ur battery life is better
3. keeping screen off as much as possible helped my batt too tho i dont like it but it works.
really noticed a diff in battery usage today so im currently backing up the phone and after a fresh format/restore session will apply root and OCLF and keep you all posted on how long the battery lasts using this method
will test for 2-3 days before reporting again.
Current Battery stat killers are
1.loads of calls
2.display due to a large amount of sms's
see you again after my test in a couple of days
I don't think jg8's a test though unless it's a new rev by kies. used it a month back, pretty awesome but I've switched.
heading to bed now, shall see what happens tonight! such adventure and excitement every night.
mazroui said:
just updated my phone to the TEST firmware JPJG8 which is currently the latest one available thru kies which includes arabic, and have seen no changes from the original firmware the phone came with ( Originally bought from Abu Dhabi with whatever firmware that had the android market not being available )
toying with juice defender for 2-3 days my SGS laged like hell even with the RyanZ lag fix OCLF from the market and it said that i saved 1.5% more juice tho i didnt see any diff with batt, it still drained fast (full charge overnight + extra charge with phone off on my way from home to work and starting @ 100% once leaving my car and ending @ 30-20% in the afternoon about 4-5pm, need to charge a little more if i wanted it to last till 10pm T_T )
deleted it today and thought why not simply use the extended control widgets to disable the connection when the screen was off + switch off the auto sync, like how the program did but manually and amazingly batt life felt like a big nasty battery i felt the diff immediatly.
kept the program juice plotter to see how steep the batt was used to compare the results.
1. keeping my phone on 2g almost all the time except for when i need to browse the net/use msn on phone - i do use facebook/twit and i might be missing the fast notifications but 2g is good with those 2 and battery life sure is extended as i can see.
2. closing the apn when locking the phone and bringing it up when screen is on is a great idea and u can almost instantly tell ur battery life is better
3. keeping screen off as much as possible helped my batt too tho i dont like it but it works.
really noticed a diff in battery usage today so im currently backing up the phone and after a fresh format/restore session will apply root and OCLF and keep you all posted on how long the battery lasts using this method
will test for 2-3 days before reporting again.
Current Battery stat killers are
1.loads of calls
2.display due to a large amount of sms's
see you again after my test in a couple of days
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I don't think jg8's a test though unless it's a new rev by kies. used it a month back, pretty awesome but I've switched.
heading to bed now, shall see what happens tonight! such adventure and excitement every night.
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jg8 isn't a new rev, it was out for a while and cant be found without using the ctrl+alt+u+p (and if that = test then its not an official release) at the firmware update in kies, its a middle east version with arabic support.
ok impressions on how things went.......
voice calls = 49% with 1H 13M 23Sec
Display = 35% with 5H 0M 9Sec
Cell standby = 7% with 16H 58M 44Sec
Phone idle = 4% with 11H 58M 34Sec
Android System = 3% with 42M 30Sec on CPU Usage and just 20Sec on CPU foreground
batt did last a full day for me i guess ending @ 6% when i got home
but what use is trying to save the batt life when i hardly use the phone
lets say i browsed the net for a 30min-1hour session, watched a few youtube video's/even downloaded video's for that matter or played a game or 2 for like 30 mins to an hour
ofcourse the display will be the major batt sucker by doing this and i doubt it would last an afternoon if i did so in the morning/noon time
I guess my only solution would be an extra batt or 2 for that matter if i really wanna show-off the phone and enjoy it fully for a full day. But the problem would be charging them all without a phone stand with extra batt charger
Anyways, does the batt last a full day for me , yes it does
am i satisfied doing what i did to make the batt last , N O
I got sick of my battery running out at around 3pm at work every day so I've now bought 2 extra batteries and an external charger from spider-foot.com
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Well, greetings to all.
I just wanted to share my experience regarding the battery issue.
As I purchased the phone some 12 days ago, my experience is short, but somewhat effective.
First couple of days the battery lasted for app. 24h, with lots of usage (wi-fi surfing, lots of applications installation, calls, games, music, etc.). Then, I installed some "battery-indicator-related app", fully charged battery and used the phone for 15 minutes or so and went to sleep. In the morning my battery was at 80% !(it was on stand-by the whole night), and till 2pm it was at 15%, without using the phone at all.
Battery usage stated 64% "cell standby". I thought - what the .... ?
Than I did the next thing.
Uninstalled that crappy app, installed another one (similar, but other manufacturer),turned off the phone, fully charged it, turned it on, checked that wi-fi and BT are off, turned off 3G and syncs and updates, set brightness to lowest, installed black wallpaper, used task killer to kill all unwanted apps, and decided to see for how long will battery last with that settings and very little usage (couple of calls, sms and some sudoku playing).
The result:
4 days, 18 hours - since unplugged. Battery at 39%.
@ some of your replies
overflashing - ive only flashed once.
be lucky it only drops 6% when totally idle - the whole point in writing this thread was because ive previous lost 0%! when idle for hours and hours...
I have background data off (which i dont want to have to do) i have an APN switch which i use sometimes, but tbh its tedious and i shouldnt have to do this.
as far as im concerned, when i idle the phone, it shouldnt do ANYTHING
Ok, so ever since I upgraded to CM6 (which I LOVE) I've had serious battery issues and I've tried to fix it by installing Pershoot's kernel and I have SetCPU to underclock in depending on what battery life it's at. Also, I've wiped my battery stats and I've calibrated my battery already.
Today my battery was at 64% after only 3hr and 26min. I don't have GPS on, auto backlight is on, 3g/2g and sync are on. If it makes any difference I have the Korean radio installed (which btw improved my reception a lot! ). After about 9hrs and half, my nexus one died. As per usage, I wouldn't say it's much at all because I'm in class most of the time and I've only talked on the phone for about 1 min, browsed a few websites, and sent only a few texts.
I keep reading on the forums about how people are getting 1-2% lower per hour while on standby but the % I reported earlier, my battery's draining at over 9%/hr!
I really just want to be one of those people that can say that "I still have 50% left after 12 hours!" lol
So, is there anything else I can to increase battery life? Is my battery just crap? Any recommended setCPU profiles?
If you're one of the users that get really good battery life from your Nexus One, please tell me what you did to get it that high! Thanks!
Don't use setCPU to manage battery life, only to overclock. It overrides the kernel's settings. Sounds like you need to wipe and flash the rom again. Then gradually add applications you want, something is sucking battery life.
Last, buy a new battery.
CM6 has less than stellar battery life. If you check the "help with my battery life" type threads, you will see most of the OP's have CM6 as their ROM. Try another ROM, you will get better results.
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CM6 has less than stellar battery life. If you check the "help with my battery life" type threads, you will see most of the OP's have CM6 as their ROM. Try another ROM, you will get better results.
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Quoted for lies
I'm using CM6 and I get between 22-32 hours on a single charge. I just use the kernel that comes with it and i almost always have sync on. No GPS or bluetooth though.
Are you using a battery you purchased on ebay? Or are you using the stock battery? ebay batteries last me about 9-12 hours and die. The stock battery is amazing
Exactly the same situation as you:
CM6.
N1.
Student.
Experiences massive drainage in short amounts of time with low usage.
Tried everything.
I'll now be trying Enomther, because yes I have heard CM6 users get worse battery life.
Just a viewpoint on what I'm facing. For the past week I've gone to bed with 100% battery and woken up ~7 hours later on 75%. I've tried WCDMA and GSM auto settings and neither male a difference.
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Don't use setCPU to manage battery life, only to overclock. It overrides the kernel's settings. Sounds like you need to wipe and flash the rom again. Then gradually add applications you want, something is sucking battery life.
Last, buy a new battery.
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Thanks for the advice! I'll be looking into this!
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I'm using CM6 and I get between 22-32 hours on a single charge. I just use the kernel that comes with it and i almost always have sync on. No GPS or bluetooth though.
Are you using a battery you purchased on ebay? Or are you using the stock battery? ebay batteries last me about 9-12 hours and die. The stock battery is amazing
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I'm using the stock battery so I don't know what the problem. I just ordered another official stock battery though yesterday and I'm going to see if there are any differences.
Forge94 said:
Exactly the same situation as you:
CM6.
N1.
Student.
Experiences massive drainage in short amounts of time with low usage.
Tried everything.
I'll now be trying Enomther, because yes I have heard CM6 users get worse battery life.
Just a viewpoint on what I'm facing. For the past week I've gone to bed with 100% battery and woken up ~7 hours later on 75%. I've tried WCDMA and GSM auto settings and neither male a difference.
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Thanks, I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem. I thought I was being an idiot by doing something wrong...
I've calibrated my battery several times already while trying to fix this issue. Could that have killed my battery life?
1) Discharging the battery below 10-15% is bad for the battery, doing it many time will destroy the battery, making it last just about nothing.
2) Check CPU usage - download System Monitor or some other app like that, and check the running frequency of the phone. When you just run the program and don't touch the phone, it should float around 300 MHz. If you have it locked on 998MHz - you have an app that got your CPU stuck in a loop.
3) Download some app that stores battery stats, and check your discharge current and battery capacity - that way you'll know if it's your battery dead or your apps drawing the juice.
Sorry, double post.
Jack_R1 said:
1) Discharging the battery below 10-15% is bad for the battery, doing it many time will destroy the battery, making it last just about nothing.
2) Check CPU usage - download System Monitor or some other app like that, and check the running frequency of the phone. When you just run the program and don't touch the phone, it should float around 300 MHz. If you have it locked on 998MHz - you have an app that got your CPU stuck in a loop.
3) Download some app that stores battery stats, and check your discharge current and battery capacity - that way you'll know if it's your battery dead or your apps drawing the juice.
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crap, all the guides that i've read regarding calibration told me to discharge it completely.
My CPU usage seemed normal. It was stable at around 245 and would jump up to 998 from time to time that doesn't last for more than half a second though.
My battery seems to be in good condition as it's labeled as "healthy" by my battery apps and the voltage seemed normal....
lol at this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714184
Do a nandroid back-up of CM6, and then try out the above ROM. You can always go right back to CM at any time.
For calibration, complete discharge is necessary. Doing it once is not too harmful. As long as the battery is reported "healthy" - you're ok.
There are apps that will show you the approximate capacity of your battery in numbers. Try to find one like that.
Please check discharge current and voltage over time. It doesn't make sense that a phone on 245 MHz in sleep mode will draw the current required to discharge 10%/hour.
in same boat as OP
im in the same position as the OP
student.
dont use phone for nearly 7 hrs a day
backlight on lowest, gps and bluetooth off.
ive been looking around for answers (hence why im reading this)
when class gets out ive gone from 100% to nearly 65%
running cm6 and ive wiped battery,
about to switch ROM, maybe that'll help.
adambenjamin said:
lol at this thread...
Do a nandroid back-up of CM6, and then try out the above ROM. You can always go right back to CM at any time.
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Thanks, I'll look at that ROM and check it out when I get time (probably this weekend).
Jack_R1 said:
For calibration, complete discharge is necessary. Doing it once is not too harmful. As long as the battery is reported "healthy" - you're ok.
There are apps that will show you the approximate capacity of your battery in numbers. Try to find one like that.
Please check discharge current and voltage over time. It doesn't make sense that a phone on 245 MHz in sleep mode will draw the current required to discharge 10%/hour.
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Cool, thanks for the advice. I'll look for an app ASAP and report what happens.
Branden10 said:
im in the same position as the OP
student.
dont use phone for nearly 7 hrs a day
backlight on lowest, gps and bluetooth off.
ive been looking around for answers (hence why im reading this)
when class gets out ive gone from 100% to nearly 65%
running cm6 and ive wiped battery,
about to switch ROM, maybe that'll help.
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Awesome, if you find a fix let me know please.
I haven't been able to do any of the suggestions yet but (when it comes to flashing) but I do have an update that might shine more light on this issue.
Today in class I noticed that my N1 was warm when it was in my pocket but nothing was running and gps and bluetooth was off. I checked the temp of my battery it was at 36.1C while it's usually at 30-31C when I'm not doing anything.
Also, I checked spare parts this morning and found that, while I was asleep, my N1 was not asleep for half that time but my screen on for only 4% of that time (probably from my messing with it before and a little bit after sleep).
I've checked to see if anything is running in the background that might lead to this but so far none of my apps should drain my battery that much while I was asleep.
Is this normal? Shouldn't my phone be mostly in sleep mode when I'm asleep since I'm not doing anything to it? As for the battery heating up, do y'all think it's a faulty battery or the fault of the OS?
Thanks again for all of y'all's helpful replies!
Is this normal? Shouldn't my phone be mostly in sleep mode when I'm asleep since I'm not doing anything to it? As for the battery heating up, do y'all think it's a faulty battery or the fault of the OS?
Thanks again for all of y'all's helpful replies!
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About battery heating...
I checked and mine is at 75-78F while in class. My n1 is also in a case, so for it to be that low is good. Just thought to throw that in as a comparison.
Also i've switched ROMs to help with battery, no luck there. Still experience 7-8% drop per hour.
I've been keeping my phone off now at school, which has helped, though I still lose nearly 15% while it's off.
Sent from my seXus One using XDA App. While I gripe about battery stats.
Branden10 said:
About battery heating...
I checked and mine is at 75-78F while in class. My n1 is also in a case, so for it to be that low is good. Just thought to throw that in as a comparison.
Also i've switched ROMs to help with battery, no luck there. Still experience 7-8% drop per hour.
I've been keeping my phone off now at school, which has helped, though I still lose nearly 15% while it's off.
Sent from my seXus One using XDA App. While I gripe about battery stats.
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I understand if my battery was at 71-78F but my battery was at almost 97F just sitting in my pocket...
Hmm, I think it's weird that the battery still drops 15% when the phone is off...
adambenjamin said:
lol at this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714184
Do a nandroid back-up of CM6, and then try out the above ROM. You can always go right back to CM at any time.
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Alright, I just flashed it with that OS. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks!
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Alright, I just flashed it with that OS. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks!
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i was using the cyanogen mod 6.0 for my nexus one and had a major battery iss i would wake up for work fully charged 100 percent goes on stand by with my set cpu to the lowest possible and the task manager running... note its on standy by with the screen low powered no gps or wifi running? so its 100 percent charged and then i leave to work arrive at 6 or 6:30 and its down 10 percent or more??? please if anyone knows a good kernel or rom to use please let us know my battery is in good health and from stock.....
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1) Discharging the battery below 10-15% is bad for the battery, doing it many time will destroy the battery, making it last just about nothing.
2) Check CPU usage - download System Monitor or some other app like that, and check the running frequency of the phone. When you just run the program and don't touch the phone, it should float around 300 MHz. If you have it locked on 998MHz - you have an app that got your CPU stuck in a loop.
3) Download some app that stores battery stats, and check your discharge current and battery capacity - that way you'll know if it's your battery dead or your apps drawing the juice.
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im checking the cpu usage but i really dont know where and which app specificly i use but i took a few pics and will try to post them up as soon as possible....battery stats i will post that up too...please help anyone...i was using cyanogen mod now leofroyo2.1
hey everyone,
firstly, i just wanna say that the HTC Incredible S is a solid and terrific device, previously owning an iPhone 4 i might like the HTC better, except for some things...
The battery:
i read some reviews before buying and every reviewer seemed to love the phone and what the battery has to offer. I've owned the phone for a week, and charge it through the USB cable, connected to my PC, and sometimes the wall socket.
But it seems to me that the battery is a bit short.... if i want the battery full i will let it charge overnight, the next day i powered it on, sent a few texts and listened to half a song and the battery has already drained to 70%, coming to this from an iPhone 4 is disgusting.
I've got Auto-Sync and background data working, i like push notifications for Emails and Facebook and i like the weather to update on its own, also HTC sense incase i need to do things remotely, everything else has been set not to sync.
One of my favorite features is Auto Brightness, which is enabled on default, but when i check battery use it says that 70% has gone to the display, 12% cell network and everything else. I have a task killer that kills all processes when i turn the screen off..
Any help??
Wiping the battery stats a few times helped me, I used to recharge the phone to full battery and after unplugging it from the charger, it would drop to 94% in a few seconds...Oh, after 2-3 weeks, not after a week!
Also I get twice the battery life on Cyanogen 7.1, than on any other Rom I've tried...I get at least 2-3 days with good usage, tons of mails, sms, calls, weather apps etc. Wifi and BT always on. No juice defender or anything like that...
Dropping to ~95% can also be normal though. To preserve the battery the charging circuit should cutout when it reaches 100% charge and let it discharge to 95% before turning on again.
If you do wipe the battery stats make sure you read some guides and do it properly as I've found that more often than not it will have a detrimental affect (from needing to charge before it has fully discharged, or needing to reboot etc).
katu2006 said:
Wiping the battery stats a few times helped me, I used to recharge the phone to full battery and after unplugging it from the charger, it would drop to 94% in a few seconds...Oh, after 2-3 weeks, not after a week!
Also I get twice the battery life on Cyanogen 7.1, than on any other Rom I've tried...I get at least 2-3 days with good usage, tons of mails, sms, calls, weather apps etc. Wifi and BT always on. No juice defender or anything like that...
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wipe the stats? sorry im still new to android but so far so good, im impressed with everything else in the incredible s, its very snappy and has a bigger screen vs iPhone 4.
if it helps, i have the phone fully turned off if i charge it overnight.
also, i read on another forum that while it's still brand new it needs to run a few charge cycles to strengthen the battery, if that is true.
It always drops to 95% when the battery is fully charged. S-ON Incredible S is not allowed to wipe battery status. Should I unlock it?
Yes, I forgot to mention...to wipe the battery stats you need to unlock the Hboot...If you have Hboot 1.16.000, then the only option is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
Unlocking the Hboot is giving you a few benefits, you get to install the CWM recovery and do a full backup of your Rom...Without unlocking the Hbtoot, if your Rom crashes, you can't flash any Rom so you have to send it back to HTC Service ...With the Hboot unlocked you can install custom Roms, you can restore a full backup, you can flash GAPPS etc, wipe battery stats directly from recovery etc etc...
So many benefits...
Now back on how to wipe the stats...The principle behind is simple, if 100%=4.3V and the stats are incorrectly set for 100%=3.9V, then you're never actually recharging the battery to full capacity, which is rubbish...
The way I do it is this - charge to 100%, boot into recovery and wipe the battery stats. Now use the phone until it's shutting down and then charge to 100% again.
Very important is to avoid rebooting the phone after the stats were wiped until the phone is fully recharged. Here is a thread about this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359395
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Jess95 said:
wipe the stats? sorry im still new to android but so far so good, im impressed with everything else in the incredible s, its very snappy and has a bigger screen vs iPhone 4.
if it helps, i have the phone fully turned off if i charge it overnight.
also, i read on another forum that while it's still brand new it needs to run a few charge cycles to strengthen the battery, if that is true.
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In my view, recharging while the phone is off makes no difference.
Yes, it's true. With all my Android phones I went through the same thing, first week or so, the battery was rubbish, but after about 2 weeks it improved a lot.
yeah, i've had it for around one week. so i might take your word for it and give it a chance, maybe for 2 weeks. i was thinking of bringing it back to the store but i'll give it a chance.
a part from the short battery at the moment it's a pretty terrific phone and i like it more than the iPhone 4.
Once the battery is conditioned, phone is rooted, custom Rom installed, bloat frozen out or uninstalled, then you can expect your phone battery to last a good full day with regular usage. No need to switch off when charging over night.
Well its incredible enough for me
It lasts a day, which is just right for me haha
Did u remove the USB immediately aft the charging?
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well i've had it for almost 2 weeks now. I charged again overnight last night and used it to listen to music and play NinJump/Bejewled on the way home today, battery uptime was just over 30 mins and the battery was down to 70% remaining. That's a bit quick if you ask me.
Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
Jess95 said:
well i've had it for almost 2 weeks now. I charged again overnight last night and used it to listen to music and play NinJump/Bejewled on the way home today, battery uptime was just over 30 mins and the battery was down to 70% remaining. That's a bit quick if you ask me.
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Maybe try disabling the Optus bloatware. Had a bit of an improvement when I did it to mine. Also be mindful about what apps are running in the background constantly, they could also have an impact on battery life. Screen is a huge battery killer if its constantly on, autobrightness can help slightly if you haven't enabled it already.
Thanx everybody for the replies
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Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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That battery usage sounds awesome! I have mine on Auto Brightness and WiFi turned off but its nothing like yours. My battery usage app says most of it has gone to the brightness, of course that percentage goes down when i start opening apps.
edit: im also using the stock Android 2.3.3 installed from the factory. and disabled my Advanced Task Killer, battery is still the same, but the phone now lags a lot less. so thats a plus for now.
Nonverbose said:
Maybe try disabling the Optus bloatware. Had a bit of an improvement when I did it to mine. Also be mindful about what apps are running in the background constantly, they could also have an impact on battery life. Screen is a huge battery killer if its constantly on, autobrightness can help slightly if you haven't enabled it already.
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When i first got the phone i noticed Optus loaded it with rubbish apps i'd never even touch. I disabled auto updates for the bloatware and forced stop for all the ones running. it doesnt look like i can remove them though :\
unknown2011 said:
Did u remove the USB immediately aft the charging?
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
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Yes, after i charge it for some time i always remove the usb cord. cos its finished charging, right?
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
katu2006 said:
Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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tzuyang said:
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
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ok atm my incredible s is saying 4 hrs 26 min uptime and 1 hr 21 min awake time, 50% left. my signal here is great, the speed of the internet even beats my ADSL 2+ sometimes. should i be thinking of warranty back to store?
Before i rooted my phone i was charging my phone twice a day - this was nothing new to me as i had been charging my 3gs at least twice a day for the past two years.
However like somebody else has said, once the phone is rooted and all that optus junk has been deleted it lasts a lot longer. And you can notice the difference, my phone has been rooted for 2 days now and i have been on it none stop, modding all the appearence and downloading apps. I have been using it a lot more than i was before it was rooted and it has lasted at least twice as long. So for battery usage i should deffo root. Its HTC sense/screen that hammers your battery. Go look at battery usage and yourll see what i mean.
Also, i know this might sound stupid. But charging it through a wall socket (for me) seems quicker to charge, and seems to last longer than if its charged through a laptop/PC. Although ive thought this for my 3gs as well. If its actually true i dont know haha.
shields360 said:
Before i rooted my phone i was charging my phone twice a day - this was nothing new to me as i had been charging my 3gs at least twice a day for the past two years.
However like somebody else has said, once the phone is rooted and all that optus junk has been deleted it lasts a lot longer. And you can notice the difference, my phone has been rooted for 2 days now and i have been on it none stop, modding all the appearence and downloading apps. I have been using it a lot more than i was before it was rooted and it has lasted at least twice as long. So for battery usage i should deffo root. Its HTC sense/screen that hammers your battery. Go look at battery usage and yourll see what i mean.
Also, i know this might sound stupid. But charging it through a wall socket (for me) seems quicker to charge, and seems to last longer than if its charged through a laptop/PC. Although ive thought this for my 3gs as well. If its actually true i dont know haha.
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sounds just about right. my iPhone 4 needed a charge like once every 2 - 4 days, i thought it was awesome. On the Incredible S it says that 62% of the battery usage has gone to display, with very little apps on the list.
The optus apps are just sitting there. Because im on Amaysim i can't exactly use them properly because you need an actual optus account. ive tried opening some of the optus apps, they're mostly just web links and theres a Mobile TV and a Music Store app i believe, but i never at all use them. so they cant be consuming any data, memory or battery or anything, right??
Im still unsure about 'rooting'. Im guessing it's android's version of the jailbreak or a godmode on the device? i might need some help on it, i know how to flash windows mobile and jailbreak iTouch devices easily.
But then again, a lot of people have bought this phone, they cant all be experiencing terrible battery life and i dont think every user would have a root on their device.
I bought it from DickSmith here in Aus, the guy there told me there's a 1 yr back to store warranty. The phone is solid and one of the best phones i've ever had, plus a good price tag on it, its a shame to let a weak battery spoil it.
im thinking of returning it, but i heard somewhere it needs a couple weeks to strengthen the battery, if that's the case then there's no point getting a new one only to wait longer, ill give it a little more time. Plus HTC is releasing 2.3.5 software for the Incredible S soon, and wikiPedia states that it's got "Improved battery efficiency". but ill still keep root in mind for when i get more use to the device.
tzuyang said:
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
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Yes, about 40min to 1hour display on... sometimes more...I will attach a screenshot once I get throughout the whole battery.
Yes, generally good coverage and mostly 3G...I'm on Optus.
My phone has been rooted before, but now it's on stock Rom as an experiment...
I would strongly advise on rooting, it changes the phone completely.
And remove any animation (live wallpapers) those are killing the battery.
Also found one more thing. If you've got Facebook installed it refreshes every hour, i set mine to never refresh, but you can still receive notifications
But i still don't get why the battery drains soo quickly, even on standby.
edit: found one more thing.
uptime and awake time. when i turn the screen off and awake time should stop counting as the phone is locked and im not using any apps, right?? in some cases i've noticed the awake timer still counts.
example: awake time will read 1:52:39, turn the screen off at this point. go back a couple hours later it's been counting as awake the whole time, and has half battery life it did eventhough i haven't touched the device since locking it and turning off the screen.
in some cases the awake timer will not budge when i lock the phone and turn the screen off and still find the same amount of battery life remaining when i come back.