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Now that BT finally works, I'm looking for a very thin but large keyboard or case that I can use w. my nook without adding too much bulk to it....
If you google for "samsung-galaxy-tab-bluetooth-keyboard-case-review" you'll see what I mean. I'm actually considering getting that and ripping the keyboard part out of the case, because nook definitely would not fit inside that case.
Seems to be a bit of a waste though to pay $40 for the whole deal, if I could only find who makes that keyboard part or something similar
diNovo Edge from Logitech maybe?
But I didn't even know BT had been enabled finally, what the what? Going to see about that now...
nook color bluetooth keyboard portfolio
I've been looking this morning...basically something that I could roll together with the NC and a bluetooth keyboard for conferences. A couple ideas come to the forefront:
http://shop.brando.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-case-with-bluetooth-keyboard_p05269c0299d057.html
And then some keyboards originally for the iPad, but would work nonetheless:
http://www.ipadaccessories.com/othe...rds/best-bluetooth-keyboards-for-ipad-roundup
The iGo looks decent, and I can get my hands on an Apple keyboard for cheap...but then I'm looking at having to prop up the NC and carrying along the keyboard as well. Might look into ETSY and having someone sew one together.
-Ian
Yeah, A sample came out last night, and Nightly 17 is out now. Some people are reporting problems with nightly 17. (they skipped 16? because they skipped a day?)
I have the BT version installed now (not nightly 17) and it works great (the OS, I don't have any BT hardward yet.)
On the keyboard question, that keyboard is too big and way too expensive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823115003
That's still bigger than the NC, but closer, and much cheaper.
I think I'm going to look into one of the bluetooth keyboard / pad holders though instead of making a holder.
Please notice that the Nook is about an inch longer than the galaxy tab. I learned that the hard way since I bought my Nook without a case and I live - well - let's just say on the other side of the planet. So far I haven't been able to find anything that fit the Nook.
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Please notice that the Nook is about an inch longer than the galaxy tab. I learned that the hard way since I bought my Nook without a case and I live - well - let's just say on the other side of the planet. So far I haven't been able to find anything that fit the Nook.
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Did the same thing, having the same problem. I am drooling over tab cases like mad.
How do you have bluetooth enabled but not flashed to CM7 Nightlie 17? Did you just install the dependencies? If so, could you post how?
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How do you have bluetooth enabled but not flashed to CM7 Nightlie 17? Did you just install the dependencies? If so, could you post how?
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They posted the pre-17 BT before they posted a build 17. It may in fact be the same file, but I haven't updated to 17 yet. I don't even have a bluetooth device yet, but I think I'm going to walmart to get a wiimote for NES action!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960537
That is what I'm using. it's the bluetooth build 3/11/2011
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=nightly&device=encore
This is the CM7-Encore-17 which includes bluetooth. I'm unsure of the difference but they are indeed different file sizes.
About that galaxy pad keyboard:
That looks promising!! These guys are not very heavy. One could, if one were so inclined and feeling a bit hackery, cut off the leather holder for that galaxy pad and use some 3m dual lock or hook and loop velcro to connect the NC to that keyboard holder.
I think I'm just going to get a keyboard and design a stand to hold up the NC on the desk.
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How do you have bluetooth enabled but not flashed to CM7 Nightlie 17? Did you just install the dependencies? If so, could you post how?
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You can try my SD image if you only want it for test purposes and don't want to touch your existing setup.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989637
Thanks for the SD link man. I didn't notice that.
I just ordered this from newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823115003
I will report back when it arrives (circa weds.)
Theoretically speaking, would flashing over to the CM7 Nightly Kernel work for other Mods?
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About that galaxy pad keyboard:
That looks promising!! These guys are not very heavy. One could, if one were so inclined and feeling a bit hackery, cut off the leather holder for that galaxy pad and use some 3m dual lock or hook and loop velcro to connect the NC to that keyboard holder.
I think I'm just going to get a keyboard and design a stand to hold up the NC on the desk.
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For some reason it says on the website
Note: This product DOES NOT work with Sprint and Verizon version
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I wonder why it wouldn't be compatible? It's bluetooth shouldn't it be universal?
Nah...
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For some reason it says on the website
I wonder why it wouldn't be compatible? It's bluetooth shouldn't it be universal?
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Apparently Samsung and Verizon/Sprint decided to lock out bluetooth on their Galaxy Tabs. Go figure.
Not our problem though.
nice find on the keyboard! looks to be just .5" wider than the NC, and a bit shorter front to back. I can picture this in a custom case that flips up and locks into a laptop-esque position
I'm thinking of either buying that Galaxy Tab one and altering it (shouldn't be too hard) or just making my own custom case with keyboard built in. It wouldn't be too hard either way, there are videos around on making a case for the nookcolor, adding a keyboard shouldn't be hard and could probably just be done with some Velcro
I definitely just purchased the Gizmo Dorks BT keyboard and case (for galaxy).. and I'm a huge xda newb so I can't post links, but I bought it from amazon for about 60 bones USD- very cheap for a keyboard and stand-up case.
I don't really care about keyboard size- maybe I'll get some mini-finger clipons for my fingers if it's too small but I think the case is a little bigger (8" long) than some of the other galaxy combo cases out there- and a guy said he fit his archos tab in it, but it should be here next week and I'll keep ya'll updated.
I've been using an apple keyboard for a few days now. It's fantastic for a few reasons.
It's a real keyboard. I type 25wpm on the soft keyboard, i doubt i could improve much on that with those little case keyboards, with mushy buttons. I do 55wpm on the apple keyboard which is pretty close to my model m desktop keyboard but more portable.
It's amazingly convenient to actually use. I use it "backwards". Throw the nook flat near me, between my arms, and reach past it to the keyboard behind it. It's even easier to use than my laptop for what it does, sometimes i even find myself preferring it over my desktop for certain tasks. The cramped netbook configuration the case keyboards lock you into makes me shudder now. I could still do the netbook configuration if i wanted too though. It's a more flexible setup, which is the point of the tablet over the laptop/netbook to begin with...
The keyboard throws in my backpack just fine, is super light, small enough not to notice. It would be the same if i used a messenger bag or whatever to carry the nook, and there is no extra bulk if i know i won't need the keyboard, i can just grab the nook by itself. Flexibility again.
It is $70 dollars which is maybe a little more than other options, but if I'm gonna get a keyboard, i want to make sure it's an upgrade over the touchscreen. $10-$20 is worth more typing speed, less fatigue and more flexibility to me.
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Thanks for the SD link man. I didn't notice that.
I just ordered this from newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823115003
I will report back when it arrives (circa weds.)
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So how is the keyboard, chisleu???
I just ordered these keyboards from amazon, they both connect and work wonderfully:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004HJEVY6
I sent it back though because the keys were too close together.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MN1F6Y
I think I am going to keep this one!
It's keys are raised rubber and smaller, but they are spaced out so you can feel the individual keys.
The case is too small for the nookColor (since it's for the galaxy tab), but the keyboard is actually velcro-ed in, so I just removed it and I am using it in my nookColor case. (http://gifts.barnesandnoble.com/Minimal-Trifold-Cover-in-Night/e/9781616864927/?cds2Pid=36174)
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So how is the keyboard, chisleu???
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It is ok. Bt keyboard support is kinda broken right now though. Wifi interferes with bluetooth.
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Now that USBhost works with cm7, we have more options. So, I'm hunting for a case/keyboard/trackpad (or mouse) combo that will turn the NC into a 7" netbook -- using Bluetooth and/or USB.
Does anyone know of any accessory that would handle this pretty well?
Has anyone seen/used this one?
http://www.ankaka.com/tablet-holder...ini-keyboard-for-7-inch-tablet-pc_p47823.html
I should check the 7" GalaxyTab accessories forum. While I've found a few 7" cases for sale around the net, I havent heard/seen any of them mention Nook specifically.
Has anyone had any luck with something like this?
That's totally cool! If you decide to get something like this please post how it works out. I would be in the market for something like that. In fact the low price on the one you linked is tempting me right now.
Yes, that's an excellent find! Should I decide to move to the Iconia Tab A100 in fall, or stick with the Nook Color, I will probably snatch one of those up.
That relies on the keyboard being connected by usb, which the nookcolor doesnt have. Im not sure if an adapter can be used? If it can i'd be quite interested in one myself.
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That relies on the keyboard being connected by usb, which the nookcolor doesnt have. Im not sure if an adapter can be used? If it can i'd be quite interested in one myself.
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USB Host support is current being worked on, and keyboards are working provided you pick up an adapter. The question becomes, however, will this work without having to go through a USB powered hub.
Haha, that guy above me didn't know about USB Host support we now have
All kidding aside, you guys know the NC is longer and skinnier than the GTab, right? As in, I'm sot sure that top clasp will bend down enough...maybe with the top and bottom ones bent...
wow that looks kick ass.
lets keep this thread updated with options
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Haha, that guy above me didn't know about USB Host support we now have
All kidding aside, you guys know the NC is longer and skinnier than the GTab, right? As in, I'm sot sure that top clasp will bend down enough...maybe with the top and bottom ones bent...
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Yeah, that's my primary concern -- making sure the darn NC fits. Of course, my other concern is that the keyboard works in USB host mode without a powered hub.
I'm very close to testing one of these out... maybe a father's day gift to myself? lol
If it does work, I'll probably need to mod it to hold the nook somehow...hmmm...
A thought:
So...maybe get the case, then get a very small hub (smallest ever!), and you can cram the hub between the NC and one of the supports?
Like this? http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mini-usb-4-ports-hub-black-787
If the g/f ends up getting on that (I'm pretty sure is the same minus the dimensions) for her GTab, I'll toss the NC on it. I don't see why a "normal" usb keyboard wouldn't work. The cheapo ones that used to (still do?) come with dells worked without any hub on my NC. My illuminated keyboard and wireless mouse needed the unpowered hub to work for the NC.
Options:
USB:
http://www.amazon.com/HDE-Tablet-Stand-USB-Keyboard/dp/B004OB0EBQ/
http://www.amazon.com/HDE-Tablet-Stand-USB-Keyboard/dp/B004OB0EBQ/
http://www.amazon.com/Digistore-tablet-Protective-leather-Keyboard/dp/B004TJJPG8/
Bluetooth:
http://solidlineproducts.com/galaxy_tab/bluetooth_keyboard_case_galaxy/
http://www.amazon.com/Leather-Housing-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Samsung/dp/B004QE4S7C/
http://www.amazon.com/Portfolio-Built-QWERTY-Keyboard-Samsung/dp/B004OEW8S0/
... I'm getting closer to pulling the trigger on one or two of these for testing purposes...
Just received the HDE 7 w keyboard from amazon.
I didn't receive the micro usb adapter yet to test it with the nook. I did hook it the keyboard to my desktop to do some quick typing tests. However a quick take on it.
Firstly my hands are a bit big, I found the keyboard cramped. I was expecting this to a degree. But am finding it rather easy to click the other buttons. Not much better than the onscreen one, I like the tactical feedback, but my accuracy seems to have declined even further. The feel of the keyboard is good like a laptop keyboard, keys are bit shallow but overall good. I also hadn't noticed but it has the three lock leds for num. caps. and scroll.
The case, it feels good, like leather,and seems relatively padded. The clips to hold the nook in. The bottom two are good. The top is a bit away from the top, and even folding it down didn't help hold it. The clips only cover up the power button, and it's still relatively accessible. Turning it on it's side the nook slid out rather easily. I am thinking of Velcro on the back of the nook to help hold it in place. Once close besides the lack of side clips it feels sturdy and protected.
The magnetic strap that closes the case needs to be pushed behind the cover, by defaults it's in the way of viewing the screen. The back stand seemed to slide very easily and didn't hold it up to well. It kept falling back.
Portability is pretty much gone with this, It makes it about the size of a good hardback. It is not pocket able now, i think it's more due to added thickness.
It's seems like a good case, if your hands aren't overly large, and with a few modifications. The lack of side clips are somewhat problematic. The included stylus as probably know is for resistive screens, but it seems cheap. I will take and post pics later.
^^^ excellent info! Have any updates on how its working out with the nook itself?
I'm gonna try and get the pingtab one, but I can't find an adapter for the weird (hopefully not propriatary?) USB connector the Nook has. Anybody know where to get one?
Hmm, actually, do I need to be looking for a powered hub?
Requia said:
I'm gonna try and get the pingtab one, but I can't find an adapter for the weird (hopefully not propriatary?) USB connector the Nook has. Anybody know where to get one?
Hmm, actually, do I need to be looking for a powered hub?
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Lots of great info regarding USB host mode here, including info on the required adapters:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105497
Ok, I have the mentioned keyboard/case combo*, though not the adapter (a twitchy one click finger made me buy the wrong one**), so I can't test the case just yet. It does however, kit the Nook perfectly. Unfortunately, it wasn't designed to hold a tablet in place when you hold the case like a book, only when it's used as a netbook. This also means the nook might not stay inside the case when carrying the case around without careful handling, so it's velcro time despite being the exact right size.
The USB cord could stand to be a tad longer, but I think I'll be happier in the long run using an extension cable when I want to hold the nook outside the case while typing.
The bulky standard USB tip gets in the way of closing the case with the nook inside, which means I'm going to have to let the cord hang out.
I suspect that the keyboard has a watch battery or similar inside, as the USB seems too thin to have a full 4 wires. This might be a problem in terms of long term durability, as I won't be able to get to the battery without unstitching or cutting the case, but it was 20$, so if it lasts 2 years and dies it'll still be a great value.
Edit1: The stylus is not a capacitive stylus, so no good with the nook, not terribly surprised.
All in all, this is highly usable and should work well with the nook (after I get the adapter), but it'd be 10x nicer with minor tweaks (a microUSB instead of a full sized, and a couple extra tabs so the tablet is held in 4 directions).
*I still can't post links, but paleh0rse posted it above, its the Digistore-tablet-Protective-leather-Keyboard one.
**Anybody know any national chain stores that might have the right adapter and aren't Radio Shack?
Anyone get one working?
@soulnothing just received the same (HDE 7" off Amazon)
and used it with a u -> USB adapter. No joy. Anyone else had any luck with this? Would assume it required a powered hub. Dang, so much for compact....
Recently bought a Nook Color, and already have a 32GB microSD card for it and have a pack of anti-glare screen protectors coming in on Saturday. I'm looking to add a plain case and a keyboard case (if possible) to complete my "accessory" set for it.
For the plain case, I'm just looking for something along the lines of the Otterbox Commuter case for it - something that will look nice and be able to protect it should it fall; I want to comfortably carry it on the street and not worry if it falls out of my hands. Just wondering, though - is it worth ~$40? I don't care about it covering the microSD card slot (I don't intend on removing it much), I'm just talking purely about protection and whether there's a better case for the price that would offer a similar level of protection. I don't need a "folio-type" case that will actually cover the screen, and I'd actually prefer that it isn't.
As for the keyboard case, I'm looking at something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004OB0EBQ/
And I remember seeing one with a microUSB connector at the end, but I can't find it at the moment. Anyway, I'm wondering if there's such a keyboard case that would work via USB with the Nook Color (and if there's anything specific I need to do in terms of software - I have CM7.2 on it right now), since I've read that certain such devices won't work without a powered USB hub, and I'd rather not deal with that. I'm not too interested in Bluetooth keyboard cases both due to price and the hassle of Bluetooth (pairing, battery life, etc.), but if somebody knows of a cheap one that works well with the Nook Color then I'd be very interested.
Thanks!
I too have given up on bluetooth keyboards and I'm using this case:
http://www.caseyfrennier.com/nook-color-keyboard-case/
I like it. I've dropped it a few times too. On carpet though.
Peoplephobic said:
I too have given up on bluetooth keyboards and I'm using this case:
http://www.caseyfrennier.com/nook-color-keyboard-case/
I like it. I've dropped it a few times too. On carpet though.
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I found that case here, with a microUSB plug (meaning the miniUSB plug and converter is unnecessary):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170783937772
Great to know that it only requires an app to work. Think I might go with that and the Otterbox, since it seems like it should still fit according to the specs.
Nobody makes a micro usb female to usb male adapter that I've found so you won't be able to use that keyboard and a mouse and usb drive using a usb hub.
Good find though.
Peoplephobic said:
Nobody makes a micro usb female to usb male adapter that I've found so you won't be able to use that keyboard and a mouse and usb drive using a usb hub.
Good find though.
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I thought about that (after I bought it =P), but I don't even have a wired mouse at the moment, or the need to plug in a flash drive. Just the keyboard plugged in is fine for me.
So I finally received the case this week and I've been using it a bit...I love it. My only two complaints are that it doesn't hold it well enough to prevent it from slipping out on the sides, and that the Nook Tweaks app to enable USB host doesn't always work properly (might have to re-enable settings and refresh a few times) - but certainly not a dealbreaker.
I'm still looking for a decent regular case, though, as the Otterbox is kinda pricey at ~$45.
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My only two complaints are that it doesn't hold it well enough to prevent it from slipping out on the sides, and that the Nook Tweaks app to enable USB host doesn't always work properly (might have to re-enable settings and refresh a few times) - but certainly not a dealbreaker.
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Which case are you talking about here? Just for complete clarity, so I know what not to get.
--bornagainpenguin
bornagainpenguin said:
Which case are you talking about here? Just for complete clarity, so I know what not to get.
--bornagainpenguin
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The one I linked to:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170783937772
From what I understand, the full-size USB version that can be bought on Amazon is identical in the way it holds the tablet. Again, I certainly wouldn't call it a dealbreaker especially since you can probably make some DIY straps to hold it better or something.
eBay has lots of cases. Got mine from a seller named letsshopdirect. $10 shipped. Whoo.
I bought a keyboard case, even with Nook Tweaks app and both USB settings checked, it wont work with my NC. I know its not the keyboard, cuz it works with other tablets. What am I doing wrong?
Oh, this may help: http://www.ebay.com/itm/310961491593?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 its the link to the listing on ebay for my keyboard
I've used a universal case from Walmart which has yet to fail me.
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Since we've only had our tablets for a short time, I might be a little premature in asking but has anyone used any of these USB keyboards with the N7? If so, if the tablet is placed on the stand in portrait mode, does the cable reach the USB port? I assume they're not full-travel keys but do people find them ok for touch typing? Do any of them suck the battery or are they usable for hours at a time?
Does anyone have any recommendations for better keyboards?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Afunta-Tabl...2OF4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343181250&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Leather-Key...XMEO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1343181250&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HDE-Tablet-...0EBQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1343181250&sr=8-5
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Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard. If I were you I would get one of the following:
http://www.amazon.com/Targus-Univer...768&sr=8-12&keywords=bluetooth+keyboard+stand
(This is what i purchased ---->) http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-FOLZKFLE...183895&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=zagg+keys+flex
(There's a review on this keyboard on this forum. You can get this on eBay for $30) http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Tabl...5&sr=1-2&keywords=logitech+bluetooth+keyboard
I hope i helped. The problem with cheap keyboard cases is that a lot of times they don't work. Sometimes you get what you pay for.
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Nxxx said:
Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard.
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I think the cases he linked actually would work -- I have one that looks identical, and is indeed functional, though the Nexus tends to slide out the sides of the case.
However, I think you are right; you DO get what you pay for. The keys are bit mushy and so on, the case is huge, etc. Hey, for the price, it might be worth it, though I wouldn't recommend it. I don't have any regrets either, though.
Have a few questions on keyboards I hope someone can help with.
On the Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android. Logitech's website is quite clear that the iPad version is incompatible with the Android version. Has anyone tried? The Android one isn't too easy to get in the UK (well not reasonably priced) but the iPad one is.
Any first hand experience of the Logitech versus the Motorola Xoom keyboard? I like the Logitech case/stand thingy but past that both keyboards are the same size so which is better?
And back to the Logitech, any recommended UK suppliers?
Jelster said:
Have a few questions on keyboards I hope someone can help with.
On the Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android. Logitech's website is quite clear that the iPad version is incompatible with the Android version. Has anyone tried? The Android one isn't too easy to get in the UK (well not reasonably priced) but the iPad one is.
Any first hand experience of the Logitech versus the Motorola Xoom keyboard? I like the Logitech case/stand thingy but past that both keyboards are the same size so which is better?
And back to the Logitech, any recommended UK suppliers?
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I'm in the same boat - was looking to get an Asus Pad Infinity upon release, but tempted by the Nexus 7 + Logitech combo instead.
Now I'd just need to secure the keyboard in the UK and I'm good to go...!
Jelster said:
Have a few questions on keyboards I hope someone can help with.
On the Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android. Logitech's website is quite clear that the iPad version is incompatible with the Android version. Has anyone tried? The Android one isn't too easy to get in the UK (well not reasonably priced) but the iPad one is.
And back to the Logitech, any recommended UK suppliers?
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I ideally want a keyboard/case combo but everything seems to have too small a keyboard for my liking (I put it down to the size of the Nexus 7). I have seen the Logitech stuff mentioned a few times and I am interested in it although I haven't found anything online. I've been using Logitech computer accessories for years (mouse/keyboard/speakers etc) and I'm always impressed with the build quality and performance. I have an unfortunate habit of not buying cheaper accessories as now I can afford better products and I have experienced the "buy cheap, buy twice" too many times to warrant shelling out £15-£20 on a case that doesn't fit properly or has sub standard build quality. After all, I'm going to be putting a £200 tablet in it.
Nxxx said:
Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard. If I were you I would get one of the following:
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I would guess none of the keyboards the OP linked would cause any lag at all, since they are all attached to the tablet via USB/OTB
the ones that you link are bluetooth keyboards, which vary in performance greatly.
(The OP here...)
I'd go with the Logitech if there wasn't any lag. I expect a powered BT keyboard would use less of the N7's battery than a USB one. And though the BT keyboard's battery would only last a few hours, I'm sure that would suffice for my use case.
I'd be surprised if Logitech don't bring this keyboard to the UK. They'd miss a lot of sales, IMO.
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Nxxx said:
Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard.
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actually, they all work. ive got one of them, and it works fine.
pretty much any usb keyboard will work. my thermaltake meka g unit with its cherry black mechanical switches works fine, as does my ducky shine with cherry red mechanical switches and full led backlit powered from the nexus 7 via usb. no notable lag, they all work as expected.
You don't have to buy a keyboard case to get a nice USB keyboard for the tablet. Just about any USB keyboard will work fine as long as you have a USB OTG cable.
That said I also have the Logitech Bluetooth keyboard, and it's one of the best slim keyboards, tablet or otherwise, that I have used. I haven't seen any lag so far, though if you sit really far away from the tablet I suppose you could introduce some signal issues. Usually if your keyboard is lagging, it's either a software issue or the batteries are going dead.
The Logitech keyboard seems pretty nice, but isn't it a bit large for pairing with a 7" tab?
joamiq said:
The Logitech keyboard seems pretty nice, but isn't it a bit large for pairing with a 7" tab?
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You wouldn't want a 7" keyboard to go with it, trust me. It does look a little awkward at first to have the keyboard wider than the tablet in landscape, but no more awkward than the promotional photos of the iPad and its portrait keyboard dock.
I used to have an Asus TF101, and even as a 10" tab the keyboard dock was really cramped, and the keys were about 10% smaller than normal so that they would fit. With the Logitech keyboard you get full size keys, so it feels more natural to type on.
earlyberd said:
You wouldn't want a 7" keyboard to go with it, trust me. It does look a little awkward at first to have the keyboard wider than the tablet in landscape, but no more awkward than the promotional photos of the iPad and its portrait keyboard dock.
I used to have an Asus TF101, and even as a 10" tab the keyboard dock was really cramped, and the keys were about 10% smaller than normal so that they would fit. With the Logitech keyboard you get full size keys, so it feels more natural to type on.
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Yeah, a 7" keyboard would probably be too small to be useful. The Zagg keyboard though looks like it might be a nice compromise. I'm leaning towards that one, as it seems small enough to stick into a large pocket and to fit on, say, an airplane tray table if needed, but big enough that you could type on it for a little while before it got uncomfortable. How portable would you say the Logitech one is?
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Yeah, a 7" keyboard would probably be too small to be useful. The Zagg keyboard though looks like it might be a nice compromise. I'm leaning towards that one, as it seems small enough to stick into a large pocket and to fit on, say, an airplane tray table if needed, but big enough that you could type on it for a little while before it got uncomfortable. How portable would you say the Logitech one is?
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I'd say it's portable enough for most people. It's about the same dimensions as the Zagg keyboard. If you have a full size keyboard somewhere nearby, you can do a good comparison by just measuring the width from the left edge of the left Shift key to the right edge of the right Shift key. That's how wide the Logitech keyboard is, and it's about the same height from the bottom of the space bar to the top of the Function keys on standard keyboards.
I already bought my Poetic Hardback and I'm pretty impressed, so I'm feeling less reluctant about buying 3rd party cased.
Has anyone gotten a case with a built in / removable keyboard?
It looks like the keyboard on these 4 are exactly the same. Only the case may be different. My only concern with the keyboard is that in a review someone noted that there's F1-12 keys that don't do anything unless you hold down fn -- seems like bad design.
These seem to be the top keyboard cases for the Nexus 10:
Poetic
KHOMO
Ionic
MoKo
Ionic and MoKo look pretty much the same. They seem superior to the Poetic in that they don't cover the Notification LED. And the KHOM seems the most different with its swivel.
Anyone have experience with any of them? Or see other differences?
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Khomo Keyboard Case
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I purchased the Khomo keyboard case and I was going to return it. They actually gave it to me half off to review it so it cost me like $17. I can tell you the build quality is pretty nice along with its look but, it has some stability issues. The keyboard was terrible since I had already purchased the zagg flex keyboard/stand. After using zaggs keyboard the khomo keyboard pales in comparison to the functionality of what the zagg keyboard offers. These are tablets not laptops and the keyboard should be designed with that in mind. The screen on/off function works as it is supposed to when closed and opened. Also I noticed that it was hard to close fully. The magnetic area had to be pulled tightly to align with the other magnets for it to close securely. It closes easily without the nexus 10 inside but with it the added depth just causes it to take a little more effort than what should be needed to fully close it. The keyboard is removable and bluetooth connectivity worked as it should with no issues. I guess it may be a good deal for some but after using the Zagg Flex Keyboard I would easily recommend it even without it being a case over the Khomo. I got the Zagg for $37 and made a thread a while back of where to find it if still available at that price. If requested I can still upload the first reaction video I made of it to youtube.
Also rotation to portrait is iffy because you cannot get it in a position I would deem useful. If I want portrait I pretty much want it standin straight not at an angle. Videos are uploading though for those who may want to look at it. Thanks to Khomo for the discount and support them. They may produce better designs after a few drafts.
Thanks momulah.. it seems like the khomo has the same removable keyboard as the 3 other ones I linked.
What problems are you having with the keyboard? Just the F keys or are there other issues?
Which ZAGG keyboard by the way? It seems like they have several, ranging from $70-$100+ and they look possibly less portable?
I just received my poetic dual case and the quality is quite excellent. The leather looks nice and the tablet fits snuggly. Keys also feel pretty good.
Unfortunately, I'll likely be returning this and looking for something just slightly better. There are two big problems. The first of which you've mentioned before: there are android function keys but they are hidden underneath F1-12 and you have to press the FN key in conjunction to access the Android function keys. Since this is supposedely designed specifically for the Nexus 10 I find this to be a huge oversight. The biggest issue, however, is that the right shift key is moved away from the keyboard separated by both the 'end' and up arrow key. I have no idea why this was done seeing as the left shift is where it should be bordering the 'z' key. I've attached an image below. Perhaps given some more time I could get used to it (in fact, I'm already naturally using left shift exclusively while typing this post). I want to like this case; for the price it's simply phenomenal. Very sturdy, setup and connection was a breeze and it looks good. I'll report back in a few more days.
Edit: there is also another awkward keyboard layout problem. The home key is wedged in between the main keyboard and enter key. It appears that the manufacturer tried to squeeze a full sized keyboard into the dimensions of the tablet and made some...questionable design choices.
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Royal2000H said:
I already bought my Poetic Hardback and I'm pretty impressed, so I'm feeling less reluctant about buying 3rd party cased.
Has anyone gotten a case with a built in / removable keyboard?
It looks like the keyboard on these 4 are exactly the same. Only the case may be different. My only concern with the keyboard is that in a review someone noted that there's F1-12 keys that don't do anything unless you hold down fn -- seems like bad design.
These seem to be the top keyboard cases for the Nexus 10:
Poetic
KHOMO
Ionic
MoKo
Ionic and MoKo look pretty much the same. They seem superior to the Poetic in that they don't cover the Notification LED. And the KHOM seems the most different with its swivel.
Anyone have experience with any of them? Or see other differences?
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I have the... um, haha wow, it really is hard to tell, but I believe I have the Moko case. I was going to say Poetic, but my notification LED definitely isn't blocked. Although I'm not too disappointed with it, I wouldn't order it again; not only does it add bulk (which I anticipated, and doesn't bother me too much), but it adds significant weight, and gives it an unwieldy feel. How are you supposed to read books/current/magazines with the case? You find yourself pressing the keys when you swing it around to the back. Fortunately, the keyboard is incredibly easy to pull on and off (this is the saving grace, otherwise I would have returned mine), but the case feels a little.. "off" without the keyboard.
It offers decent protection, and the keyboard is acceptable. When you're sitting at a desk, or lying down with the keyboard on your stomach and the case stand is holding up the N10 on a nearby table, it's pretty nice, although the omission of a mouse means you still need to poke at the screen or pair a mouse through a USB OTG adapter (there is probably an easier way, but I haven't figured it out yet). However, for me, those situations are outnumbered by the times I want to use it sitting on a bench, bus, metro, standing, reading in bed, etc.
If I were to buy another case, I would go for the best slim case available. I think my ideal case would be something like a gel case with a simple "flap" screen protector and a plastic kickstand molded into the back of the gel case. That's enough protection for me to feel comfortable putting it into my messenger bag without worrying too much about scrapes.
I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: logitech K400. Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
Anyway, even with all that said, I'm happy enough with the case that I'm keeping it. It's a good price for bluetooth keyboard, okay case, and it fits together nicely. I suggest thinking about how you use your nexus 10, and if the pseudo-netbook form factor makes sense for you, then I would suggest the Moko without reservation. If not, consider going for your favorite case and your favorite bluetooth keyboard separately.
A request: if you get the k400 keyboard, PM me and let me know if it's as good as I thought!
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I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: . Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
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Hi there,
I would recomment looking for a real bluetooth keyboard, like logitech k810 amazon DOT com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp/B0099SMFVQ
As it's my first post, i cannot link outside xda..
Cheers
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Komodo Rogue;36292779
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I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: . Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
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Hi there,
I would recomment looking for a real bluetooth keyboard, like logitech k810 amazon DOT com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp/B0099SMFVQ
As it's my first post, i cannot link outside xda..
Cheers
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Here's a link to a review, the first link on google when I searched for k810: PC mag review
They gave it a great review, thanks for the suggestion It looks really nice, I personally love chiclet keys, and illuminated keys make a big difference.
But still, I feel like having mouse input would be incredibly helpful, especially if it supports gestures.
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Komodo Rogue said:
I have the... um, haha wow, it really is hard to tell, but I believe I have the Moko case. I was going to say Poetic, but my notification LED definitely isn't blocked. Although I'm not too disappointed with it, I wouldn't order it again; not only does it add bulk (which I anticipated, and doesn't bother me too much), but it adds significant weight, and gives it an unwieldy feel. How are you supposed to read books/current/magazines with the case? You find yourself pressing the keys when you swing it around to the back. Fortunately, the keyboard is incredibly easy to pull on and off (this is the saving grace, otherwise I would have returned mine), but the case feels a little.. "off" without the keyboard.
It offers decent protection, and the keyboard is acceptable. When you're sitting at a desk, or lying down with the keyboard on your stomach and the case stand is holding up the N10 on a nearby table, it's pretty nice, although the omission of a mouse means you still need to poke at the screen or pair a mouse through a USB OTG adapter (there is probably an easier way, but I haven't figured it out yet). However, for me, those situations are outnumbered by the times I want to use it sitting on a bench, bus, metro, standing, reading in bed, etc.
If I were to buy another case, I would go for the best slim case available. I think my ideal case would be something like a gel case with a simple "flap" screen protector and a plastic kickstand molded into the back of the gel case. That's enough protection for me to feel comfortable putting it into my messenger bag without worrying too much about scrapes.
I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: logitech K400. Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
Anyway, even with all that said, I'm happy enough with the case that I'm keeping it. It's a good price for bluetooth keyboard, okay case, and it fits together nicely. I suggest thinking about how you use your nexus 10, and if the pseudo-netbook form factor makes sense for you, then I would suggest the Moko without reservation. If not, consider going for your favorite case and your favorite bluetooth keyboard separately.
A request: if you get the k400 keyboard, PM me and let me know if it's as good as I thought!
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Also been thinking of the K400 but the problem with it is that it uses Logitech Unifying, which means you have to use an OTG cable to connect the adapter to. Personally I don't want that dangling around everytime I want to use the keyboard.
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I just received my poetic dual case and the quality is quite excellent. The leather looks nice and the tablet fits snuggly. Keys also feel pretty good.
Unfortunately, I'll likely be returning this and looking for something just slightly better. There are two big problems. The first of which you've mentioned before: there are android function keys but they are hidden underneath F1-12 and you have to press the FN key in conjunction to access the Android function keys. Since this is supposedely designed specifically for the Nexus 10 I find this to be a huge oversight. The biggest issue, however, is that the right shift key is moved away from the keyboard separated by both the 'end' and up arrow key. I have no idea why this was done seeing as the left shift is where it should be bordering the 'z' key. I've attached an image below. Perhaps given some more time I could get used to it (in fact, I'm already naturally using left shift exclusively while typing this post). I want to like this case; for the price it's simply phenomenal. Very sturdy, setup and connection was a breeze and it looks good. I'll report back in a few more days.
Edit: there is also another awkward keyboard layout problem. The home key is wedged in between the main keyboard and enter key. It appears that the manufacturer tried to squeeze a full sized keyboard into the dimensions of the tablet and made some...questionable design choices.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda app-developers app
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Thanks for your post!
Interestingly enough, your Poetic case looks like it has a small hole for the notification light. Maybe the Amazon picture is wrong.
I rarely (if ever) use the right shift key, so that's not an issue for me. But the squeezing of the home key to the left of the enter key is really an odd design decision! I use Home & End a lot on my laptop, so it's nice that the keyboard includes them (usually they're first to be left off!) but the placement is indeed questionable.
Clearly it's a generic keyboard due to the odd F key layout. Who needs F1-12 keys on an Android-specific keyboard? I just wonder if there's a way to hack the firmware or maybe even something on the tablet side to reverse the need to press the Fn key. Seems like it would be a nice project, but I'm not sure I have the time for it.
@Komodo - I agree that all keyboard cases are going to be bulkier. I do already have a normal case, so I think I would just switch off between keyboard case and the normal one depending on my needs for that day. So that being said, for my uses, a slim/portable keyboard is more useful.
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Also been thinking of the K400 but the problem with it is that it uses Logitech Unifying, which means you have to use an OTG cable to connect the adapter to. Personally I don't want that dangling around everytime I want to use the keyboard.
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I have the K400. It works with the Nexus 10 & 7 and HTC Rezound & DNA. But I bought it for my laptop when doubling as a HTPC.
I don't see the point in a touch pad. far easier to touch the screen, I prefer a mouse over touchpad too.
I just ordered the iHome Universal Bluetooth Keyboard then I can have the option to use an usb sd card or a mouse simultaneously. I think staying with bluetooth is a better way to go.
Use code A4C5OFF and standard shipping, $2, for a $24.75 out the door price.
For me, a keyboard is a seldom used item with a tablet. It was hard to find reviews for it but at more than half the price of the logitech android keyboard, why not?
I wonder if this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelper will solve the problem with having to press fn + function-key to use the android specific keys?
It was recommended for a different keyboard in another thread. Anyone with the khomo/poetic/etc keyboard able to test? The app description said there is a demo too.
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I have the K400. It works with the Nexus 10 & 7 and HTC Rezound & DNA.
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How did you get it to work with Nexus 10? I bought an OTG-cable-adapter but it does not work. I tried a G11, which works perfectly. And I checked it on my desktop (Win 7), where it works. So there should be an issue with either the Nexus or Android itself. Do I need root and a custom rom?
Was anyone able to try the app to see if it can improve the keyboard?
Maybe momulah or tct08 or Komodo Rogue ?
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How did you get it to work with Nexus 10? I bought an OTG-cable-adapter but it does not work. I tried a G11, which works perfectly. And I checked it on my desktop (Win 7), where it works. So there should be an issue with either the Nexus or Android itself. Do I need root and a custom rom?
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I've read that the K400 keyboard is supported by version 4.3 and later.