i realize there are already threads on this but rather than have this post lost on page 3 or post 57 i thought i would post a new thread from what i learned tonight. i am SO for searching before posting and not for creating new threads when existing ones exist that if any MOD here feels this is not relevant of a new thread then please move it or whatever into an existing thread.
ok here is what will help others that catch it before i did but now i will have to start over again next time
i SBF'd thinking it would be needed (locked and no root) for update 3.0.1 and so after i didnt get the update i went ahead and unlocked, root, and updated myself to 3.0.1.
i choose not to install from backup with Google this time and was installing everything for from scratch and as you know it doesn't install your apps and you have to search/remember the free ones to get them back.
anyway
i had installed about 10 apps then Titanium installed and i checked it and realized that everything i installed after i installed Titanium showed up as apps in Titanium as installed.
so i uninstalled all my apps prior to Titanium install and reinstalled them all and sure enough they were there in Titanium as installed apps YEAH!!!
everything was there and my thought was to go ahead and set all my app passwords etc.. up so that when i backed up with Titanium it would be as i wanted and easy to restore.
here is where i messed upped but would have had no idea until after i did it.
i installed Spare Parts and turned off Compatibility Mode so that my non-Tablet apps would be full screen and to make this take effect i needed to reboot.
the reboot caused me to loose all my listed apps in Titanium and i was back to square 1
if i had done a backup before i had rebooted i would have had everything because Titanium recognized them before my reboot.
so if i had it to (and probably will) do all over again i would:
1. unlock
2. root
3. choose not to backup from Google
4. installed Titanium
5. installed all my apps (checking Titanium along the way to be sure)
6. ran all the apps i installed with names, passwords, etc.. to set them up
7. backed up Titanium
8. install spare parts etc..
9. then reboot. THE KEY is not to reboot until you have everything backed up.
this would have saved me from starting over again until something better like a fix or solution came along.
hope this helps others
This is a problem with all of the current versions of busybox. The one from the market and the one that Titanium Backup installs do not work on the Xoom. I compiled up a busybox from the source last night and it works with TB. The problem seems to be with the 'find' and probably the 'cp' commands. I talked with Stephen and he is going to release a new busybox installer to the market that should fix the problem.
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Hi guys,
I wanted to check out android 2.1 flan, so I installed the rom after making a nandroid backup.
It was fun to check out, but in order to load it I had to wipe my phone and my cache.
After restoring my nandroid, all the applications I had installed but wiped with the cache are acting funny. Basically they still show up in manage applications, but they really arent there, and if I try to reinstall them through market it doesnt let me click install OR uninstall as both are greyed out.
Basically, I will have to wait for all my applications to get "updates" before I can use them again.
Is there a way to clean up these ghost programs... without doing a complete wipe (and loosing text messages and other things)?
I didnt think Nandroid did application backups (what you are seeing are in the ext3 partition)
You need Switchrom or BART to do full backups including apps
I may be (and no dount will be) wrong though.
sjbayer3 said:
Hi guys,
I wanted to check out android 2.1 flan, so I installed the rom after making a nandroid backup.
It was fun to check out, but in order to load it I had to wipe my phone and my cache.
After restoring my nandroid, all the applications I had installed but wiped with the cache are acting funny. Basically they still show up in manage applications, but they really arent there, and if I try to reinstall them through market it doesnt let me click install OR uninstall as both are greyed out.
Basically, I will have to wait for all my applications to get "updates" before I can use them again.
Is there a way to clean up these ghost programs... without doing a complete wipe (and loosing text messages and other things)?
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As mentioned above, nandroid *does not* back up your external apps. It will ONLY backup your *INTERNAL* storage.
If you make a clean restore of your nandroid backup and then run the fix_permissions script from recovery, it *might* be able to fix (some/most of) your external apps. Might try that.
If it doesn't work, then it is a tedious business of reinstalling each application individually and then restoring *ITS* home directory. Either that or a total wipe (internal and external).
The problem is that the database file that keeps track of which apps you have installed/removed is out of sync with the apps that you have installed.
I am uncertain how to fix this (I have the same problem myself).
If you perform a factory wipe, you'll lose that database entirely. All your apps will be installed, but your phone will think that none of them are.
UPDATE:
OK...apparently this is a more widespread issue impacting people running the stock/OEM ROMs as well as those of us with rooted phones.
Read up on this thread:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=096ef069db2788e9&hl=en
I followed the suggestion near the bottom of the page and copied over the /data/data/com.andriod.vending/databases/assets.db to a new filename (basically I renamed it).
I then launched the market app and then it would let me install (reinstall) the missing apps.
Then I ran into a problem. I deleted the new assets.db that was created and copied the old one (the one I renamed) back to assets.db.
Then the market app would force close. I noticed the UID of the assets.db file was wrong.
I ran the fix_permissions script from RA's recovery image. This fixed the UID problem, including the assets.db file. But now the market app only shows the apps that I've paid for......none of the others that I have installed.
Not sure what's going on there. It may sort itself out within 24 hours.
Ok I keep seeing people sayiing to backup apps+data but be careful about system data. Well every time I do an upgrd to the new sre and restore my titbu and I am constantly having to redo my gmail stuff and isp email stuff. I have accounts checked in the backup section.
Can someone that does stuff like this regularly post like a nice simple howto with good steps as to what to check in titbu so that doing something in titbu doesn't bork something when we flash the new sre. Its getting old having to put my gmail info and isp info in every flash to get that stuff back.
So a 104 views and not one offer of help. Well guess I take that as noone knows much about titanium backup to help a poor soul
New to Android myself (2 days), and I am using TiBU as well (seems to be everyone's favorite for now). I had the same Q you did and basically went off the list on the developer's page for the app:
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
Here is a partial copy/paste from that site so we keep the pertinent instructions here in this thread anyway:
Tips & Suggestions for using Titanium Backup:
When you start Titanium Backup on a new ROM, if you have any doubt about your busybox version, it is highly recommended that you click the "Problems?" button before doing any backup or restore !
Don't forget to verify your backups (Click MENU - Batch) to ensure that your backups are OK.
You need to reboot after restoring system items (eg: Contacts, SMS, Settings, etc) for the changes to take effect. If you backup/restore across very different ROMs, I advise to be cautious and only include the system items you really need to preserve.
You can easily create a custom apps list by creating a Label in Apps Organizer, then going back to Titanium Backup, clicking "MENU" and then "Filters" and finally, selecting the Label you want. Your apps list will then be filtered just the way you want
If you backup the same app several times, Titanium Backup will save SD card space by storing each apk version only once.
After restoring your apps, you can run the Market Doctor to verify their Market links. If Market Doctor reports everything as okay, yet your apps are still not listed in "My Downloads", try to search for them in the Market. If they show as "Installed", it confirms that the links are okay, but your Market needs a refresh: just install any app from the Market, and the "My Downloads" section will be refreshed !
If you want to remove a system app, first you can try to freeze it and see if everything still works fine. Once you've gained more confidence that you don't need it, just go ahead and un-install that system app.
How to make your first backup:
- Thanks seanowns / xda-developers
Verify that Titanium Backup has started without warning and that your busybox is OK
Click the Backup/Restore tab
Click Menu (the button), Batch
Click "Backup all user apps"
Let it run, then go back
Individually backup the system data you want. That is most green-colored items. This will be bookmarks, call log, calendar, launcher, WiFi, etc.
Now your backups are in the "TitaniumBackup" directory on your SD card.
How to restore your backups after installing a ROM (if you wiped your phone):
Download Titanium Backup from Market
Click the Backup/Restore tab
Click Menu (the button), Batch
Click "Restore all missing apps + system data
Reboot your phone
It's done ! The only thing you may have to adjust is usually your wallpaper/widgets.
Hi all,
Is there a way to save locally all the apps installed on the phone? My HD is rooted and I like to test new Rom, but I do not like the fact the phone have to download everythime I flash all the apps from the market. I bought a very powerfull backup programm... But I've to download it every flashing time. Is it possible to copy the *.apk from the system/apps folder and put there again once flashed?
Any suggestion?
I think what you are describing here is the Google back up service that reinstalls all you apps at once after a full wipe. This is optional and can be switched off
Personally I use titanium backup and on the occasions I need to do a full wipe I keep the titanium apk stored on my sd and then when the green robot appears on the welcome screen I press all for corners of the screen to exit the set up. I install titanium from the SD and use it to restore my pro key version. Then use batch restore to restore everything it takes a while but its automated at least.
After that has completed I log into my Google account and run the market to check for updates since last backup.
I'm not sure if this is faster than using Google restore but it means you can restore without wifi.
If your talking about being able to wipe the phone but leave system apps in place. Then I don't think this is possible.
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I think what you are describing here is the Google back up service that reinstalls all you apps at once after a full wipe. This is optional and can be switched off
Personally I use titanium backup and on the occasions I need to do a full wipe I keep the titanium apk stored on my sd and then when the green robot appears on the welcome screen I press all for corners of the screen to exit the set up. I install titanium from the SD and use it to restore my pro key version. Then use batch restore to restore everything it takes a while but its automated at least.
After that has completed I log into my Google account and run the market to check for updates since last backup.
I'm not sure if this is faster than using Google restore but it means you can restore without wifi.
If your talking about being able to wipe the phone but leave system apps in place. Then I don't think this is possible.
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how did you download the original apk? that's my guess.
Its on the titanium website.
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
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Dear community,
today as a first step I have successfully rooted my Phone (Froyo 2.2.1) with CF-Root Kernel and Odin, yay! Thanks to all the Developers, Guides and Refs on this page!!
In order to fix my ongoing battery issues,next thing I want to try is to flash a new ROM; I think for stability and for practice the latest Froyo Build JS8! I have downloaded Titanium Backup and have successfully backed up all my system and user apps and settings.
Now when I flash the new ROM, the phone will be wiped, or at least the Wipe-method is recommended (hard-reset AFTER the flashing?).
Can I restore at least some settings and apps with my Titanium Backup Files (I read restoring system apps/settings is not recommended)?
How would I do that (where does Titanium save the backup files?)
How do you guys usually perform the steps to a new ROM without losing all system settings, apps, app-settings etc...?
Thanks for all recommendations!
I would recomend you, restore user apps only. It will restore your apps and their settings. You could do it in batch mode.
Also is recomended to copy your TitaniumBackup folder to PC
Last but not least, do not forget copy your EFS folder too.
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jellygoos said:
Can I restore at least some settings and apps with my Titanium Backup Files (I read restoring system apps/settings is not recommended)?
How would I do that (where does Titanium save the backup files?)
How do you guys usually perform the steps to a new ROM without losing all system settings, apps, app-settings etc...?
Thanks for all recommendations!
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1) Get titanium backup PRO.
2) Batch backup your whole system (while you're at it, create a schedule so your phone automatically gets backed up at least once/week). The files will go on your sd card in a TitaniumBackup folder (actually you can specify where they go).
3) Go and nuke your phone with whatever.
4) Re-install Titanium backup, then batch restore your USER apps & settings. Leave the system settings alone for now.
5) Okay for system settings, be a bit more selective:
6) Go to Backup/Restore tab, select menu, then filters, then apply a Filter by Type: System.
7) Anything in GREEN is system settings (red=system applications).
8) I typically restore the following: Contacts/Call-logs; SMS/MMS/APN; Bookmarks; SMS/MMS Preferences; Wifi Access Points; Calendar Storage (think that includes your alarm clock settings).
Note that you may need to reboot before you see the restore take effect - e.g. you can't see your restored sms till after reboot.
Also it's safest to grab a copy of your titanium backup folder and put it on your computer. Lookup how to get a copy of your /efs too.
Thanks for the swift answers and useful guides! Will buy the Titanium Pro for sure.
In the Pro Version it says it can convert System Apps into User Apps and vice versa. Couldn't I just convert all the System Apps into User Apps and then restore everything, once on new ROM?
About the freezing feature of the Pro Version: Does it freeze complete Apps, or can you tell them to freeze specific tasks? I noticed that for example some Google Maps or Latitude tasks run in the background (and start again by themselves if i close them manually) and I would like them to get out of the phone memory while I don't have the program running. Yet I want the apps to function properly once I need them.
P.S.: Before I proceed flashing a new ROM I will also look into backing up my /efs folder so thanks for pointing me at this!
Okay, I figured out how to backup the /efs folder via ADB shell.
Questions remain though concerning Titanium Backup Pro. Can someone that uss Titanium Pro help me with these questions?
In the Pro Version it says it can convert System Apps into User Apps and vice versa. Couldn't I just convert all the System Apps into User Apps and then restore everything, once on new ROM?
About the freezing feature of the Pro Version: Does it freeze complete Apps, or can you tell them to freeze specific tasks? I noticed that for example some Google Maps or Latitude tasks run in the background (and start again by themselves if i close them manually) and I would like them to get out of the phone memory while I don't have the program running. Yet I want the apps to function properly once I need them.
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jellygoos said:
In the Pro Version it says it can convert System Apps into User Apps and vice versa. Couldn't I just convert all the System Apps into User Apps and then restore everything, once on new ROM?
About the freezing feature of the Pro Version: Does it freeze complete Apps, or can you tell them to freeze specific tasks? I noticed that for example some Google Maps or Latitude tasks run in the background (and start again by themselves if i close them manually) and I would like them to get out of the phone memory while I don't have the program running. Yet I want the apps to function properly once I need them.
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You could convert it technically. But generally it's not advised as it may mess up settings or so on a different ROM. I backed up my system stuff but I doubt I'll restore it on any ROM, the hassle isn't worth it if any issue shows up and you have to check everything out to fix it. Maybe some individual system thingies can be restored safely but keep in mind lots of system stuff changes on each ROM and could be incompatible.
Just like others did here, I also recommend the PRO version as you have to click every single restoration on a batch restoration otherwise (and it's probably slower anyway).
Freezing means just that, it freezes the app. It "deactivates it", so it's not there/usable but it's not uninstalled. Can't think of a scenario right now where this would be useful except for testing purposes, maybe if an app causes an issue and you want it to be gone temporarily or so.
If you don't want an app to continue running simply use the task manager to kill it which comes along with the SGS (Samsung app afaik, usually pre installed).
Btw Titanium has a nice wiki website which is really helpful but can't link it as a new user here. Google Titanium Backup wiki and the first link should be the correct one.
Correct me if I'm wrong but if you do a app+data restore the app doesnt show up in the market under installed which means that any updates to the app wont get rolled out.
What I did was install each of my apps from the market then did only a data restore. This worked for most of my apps BUT last night I noticed a few of my apps missing, in fact launching my angry birds from simi folder caused a FC. BUT I know that angry birds was working earlier in the day.
So I simply went back to the market and reinstalled and all seems well again.
So now I'm wondering what is the best method to restore, my method or maybe do a app+data restore then go to the market and install the app again.
Afaik, normally Titanium also backs up the links for the markets so the entries won't get lost and should be restored as well. There was an issue mentioned which can happen if that data gets corrupted. The Titanium wiki lists it.
Generally, installing the app from the market and then restoring it should work just fine.
Hey guys,
I finally have time to set up my Pixel 4 XL. I'm coming from a 2 XL (still on Pie) and backed up/restored my apps with Titanium Backup (which I've always done). Of course, both phones have a working root access.
Now I'm facing a huge problem on Android 10 on my 4 XL: no file manager works. They ask for storage permission at the bottom of the screen but it does nothing when I tap it. I checked in the settings and the permission is granted but the app won't scan my internal storage (it says access is denied).
I also have many apps that don't work and are asking to be reinstalled. Is this normal? What's going on here?? I'm already fed up with Android 10 tbh!
If anyone has had the same problems, please chime in!
Thanks.
Ghisy said:
Hey guys,
I finally have time to set up my Pixel 4 XL. I'm coming from a 2 XL (still on Pie) and backed up/restored my apps with Titanium Backup (which I've always done). Of course, both phones have a working root access.
Now I'm facing a huge problem on Android 10 on my 4 XL: no file maneger works. They ask for storage permission at the bottom of the screen but it does nothing when I tap it. I checked in the settings and the permission is granted but the app won't scan my internal storage (it says access is denied).
I also have many apps that don't work and are asking to be reinstalled. Is this normal? What's going on here?? I'm already fed up with Android 10 tbh!
If anyone has had the same problems, please chime in!
Thanks.
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I haven't had this problem and still use TiBu all the time. Normally I use Solid Explorer to create a single zip-file of my entire TiBu folder on the source phone. I use Root Explorer, too.
First of all, Google's backup has come a very long way and (IMO) it should always be allowed to completely finish restoring your phone. You didn't mention whether you used this option when you first fired up the P4XL, as the option only comes around one time. If you chose to setup from scratch (not using a very recent Google backup from your P2XL, opting instead to "shortcut" by using TiBu) this could be the issue. Wipe the phone, allow GB to do it's thing restoring not only your backup but also ALL of your Store apps. Everything. I even reboot and try to squeeze out a couple more updates from the Store. Then I extract my TiBu zip-file, re-creating the same TiBu folder I had on the source phone. Once the app has root and recognizes the backup folder, do a selective install for ONLY MISSING APPS (the first option). This way you don't inadvertently overwrite a system app, system settings or carry over something old from a previous OS version. At this time you may also want to de-select any old apps you haven't used or don't plan to use going forward, before you hit the restore button.
A pro-tip would be to backup your source phone launcher config in the cloud or offline before starting (I use Nova stored on GDrive). After GB and TiBu have restored everything, I use the Nova backup to restore all my shortcuts and widgets. This method is consistent and mostly error-free for me... YMMV. Best of luck and enjoy your new phone! :good:
v12xke said:
Best of luck and enjoy your new phone! :good:
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Yeah, I didn't choose the Google backup when I first turned on the P4XL (I don't have a cloud backup, I turned it off on my 2XL because I don't have much space left on my GDrive). I do back up my Nova home screen on my GDrive though.
I did use the "missing apps" setting in TiBu, as I know restoring system apps between different versions of Android is a big no-no. Several apps would FC after doing that though. I ended up reinstalling these from the Play Store (luckily, they weren't any "critical" apps for me). I exported settings for the ones that had the option from my P2XL and imported these on the P4XL. It was a long process but, in the end, everything seems to work now!
Thanks for your step by step guide, it might come in handy at some point
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