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I'm going to avoid rooting, at least for the time being, I never rooted my D1 either. Anyways, I know January 1st, the thing's being upgraded with Adobe Flash and the Nook app store. (Flash hopefully means it's being upgraded to 2.2 as well, the lady in the store said both Flash and apps on January 1st).
I'm wondering who if anyone, is working on apps for publishing through the Nook store.
NC will not see its marketplace or any significant upgrade on January 1, believe me. The company is currently saying 'first quarter' for the marketplace and no timeframe whatsoever on flash/2.2
Two days ago when I went to B&N to pick up my nook the guy at the front showing off the nook told me it would be "upgraded to android 2.2 Gingerbread in the not to distant future." Not knowing what to make of that I just nodded my head in agreement maybe this guy knows something we don't... anyways love my stock nook.
Roofus44 said:
Two days ago when I went to B&N to pick up my nook the guy at the front showing off the nook told me it would be "upgraded to android 2.2 Gingerbread in the not to distant future." Not knowing what to make of that I just nodded my head in agreement maybe this guy knows something we don't... anyways love my stock nook.
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2.2 Gingerbread, LOL. Hey, at least they can help you find a book so they aren't completely useless! (Not all are this ignorant of course, some are very informed.)
Obviously, being someone who was waiting for the 2.1 update for Droid 1, which was given a release date like three or four times, I know that release dates aren't exactly set in stone. Believe me.
But she did state January 1st with some manner of certainty, like it was a date stated somewhere internally. Whether or not it actually happens by then or not is obviously yet to be seen.
It's possible the lady was outright wrong too, we'll see I suppose. I do know she was a Droid owner too.
I accidentally set the default action to open home screen instead of the softkeys app... Is there anyway to change this setting? (I tried reinstalling)
ender89 said:
I accidentally set the default action to open home screen instead of the softkeys app... Is there anyway to change this setting? (I tried reinstalling)
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install another launcher like zeam\adw\launcher pro, it will prompt you again, set it to softkeys then uninstall the extra launcher (or keep it if you wanna have 'two' launcher setups)
Since you have a non-rooted nook could you try to get to the USB debug screen as described in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=862531
If you enable USB debugging there you can push applications via adb. (And you don't have to do anything you couldn't have done by accident )
ixampl said:
Since you have a non-rooted nook could you try to get to the USB debug screen as described in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=862531
If you enable USB debugging there you can push applications via adb. (And you don't have to do anything you couldn't have done by accident )
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I dont, and tried eariler and couldnt see it
Looks like 1.1 is confirmed for January and will allow you to sideload apps on the NC in development mode. Not certain when Froyo 2.2 will be available, probably when they launch the store front in Q1, maybe it's in 1.1?
connect.nookdeveloper.com/t5/General-Discussion/Nook-Color-Rooting/td-p/901
Also mention of sideloading apps.
connect.nookdeveloper.com/t5/General-Discussion/Can-you-test-your-apps-on-a-real-hardware-now/m-p/47#M18
Good news!
Josh
I guess I'm the grinch who steals the joy from this news...we can already sideload (heck we have a working Market), and based on the original post I seriously doubt Froyo is coming for the ride with the 1.1 update. I think Froyo is much bigger news, and will get it's own announcement.
Not sure what development mode adds, since rooted users already have the goodies. Tell me I missed something...
-Matt
If that is all they added in the update ill be disappointed. Sounds like all they are gonna do is enable adb. Which is easy enough to enable anyways.
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Of course it's not big news here!!! You have to consider that it is for those who haven't rooted their unit. You knew it was coming, so why all the negativity?
Cheers,
kev
No negativity here. I probably should have added a few smiles and winks to make it clear that I was (mostly) teasing (i.e,. the grinch comment). I'm a pretty happy owner, and will gobble up whatever news I can find. I think recent developments with Bluetooth and Nookie Froyo are definitely things to celebrate. Maybe 1.1 has something special that we don't see yet.
-Matt
Yeah, apart from froyo, most of the news from B&N will likely not be as exciting as anything from the developers here.
I am curious what this 1.1 update means for the integrity of my currently nootered NC. Should I be concerned when B&N pushes this update my way?
Kev
It's good news to see sideloading for those that do not wish to root..
-CC
Question regarding upcoming Froyo update (packed with v1.1, or otherwise):
If B&N officially updates to 2.2, they open up development mode for app sideloading, and they also allow for the unrestricted use of normal Froyo home screens (and launchers?), will there be any reason remaining to actually "root" the device at that point?
Or, is B&N talking about a severely restricted "development mode" when they say they're going to open it up?
I'm confused...
(I'm new to Android rooting, so please forgive me if this is a dumb question...)
I haven't rooted... yet. Holding out to see what happens w/ 1.1. I'd prefer not to root and just get some basic apps on the device and not lose access to the B&N store. If I can side load a few key apps w/ 1.1, that will hold me off until the B&N Market place is launched Q1. Otherwise I will most likely root.
Am I missing something? I didn't see them say January anywhere in those threads. All I saw was them saying Q1 of 2011.
And this quote makes it sound like the update won't be useful to the average user.
"Within NOOKcolor 1.1 update, we have added "Developer Mode". This enabled approved 3rd party developers to use the Android SDK to test and develop applications on their NOOKcolor devices."
Approved 3rd Party Develepors. Sounds like the only people side loading apps may be those that are approved by B&N.
supersoulfly said:
"Within NOOKcolor 1.1 update, we have added "Developer Mode". This enabled approved 3rd party developers to use the Android SDK to test and develop applications on their NOOKcolor devices."
Approved 3rd Party Develepors. Sounds like the only people side loading apps may be those that are approved by B&N.
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And us.
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I must have missed it but where in that thread is there any mention or confirmation that 1.1 is this month?
I see nothing of the sort.
In regards to January, it looks like Ted_Patrick went back and edited his original response.
Re: Nook Color Rooting[ Edited ] 01-05-2011 10:24 AM - last edited on 01-05-2011 07:12 PM
It originally read:
"Within NOOKcolor 1.1. update(January), we have added...."
Now other responses on the subject of 1.1 by him have an "official" response of
"We cannot comment on OS update features or framework support at this time. When we have information to share, we will be very clear and set expectations clearly."
Looks like he may of spilled the beans a bit or been more forth coming w/ info than B&N liked.
jwigginton said:
I haven't rooted... yet. Holding out to see what happens w/ 1.1. I'd prefer not to root and just get some basic apps on the device and not lose access to the B&N store. If I can side load a few key apps w/ 1.1, that will hold me off until the B&N Market place is launched Q1. Otherwise I will most likely root.
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I don't know who's been scaring you with witchcraft and vodoo, but here are a few facts:
(1) Rooting is very easy. If you're the kind of person who is OK with opening a command prompt and doing things like "listing directories" and "renaming/moving files" it's quick and painless. It also takes less than 5 minutes (probably about 2) to take your device back to stock.
(2) Rooting does very little to the device. The key is that it allows the user to change system files, something that B&N would prefer we didn't do. Several users root their NookColor (NC) and then scratch their heads because they see no obvious change.
(3) Package mods like autonooter only make a few system changes (aside from the several nice system apps they add), in particular, they allow you to sideload apps. Once you do that, you can reorganize the way your NC looks and performs, so that it handles like a vanilla Android device.
(4) Most importantly, ROOTING DOES VIRTUALLY NOTHING TO CHANGE THE B&N INTERFACE. All--I repeat--ALL the things your NC does out of the box, it still does after rooting. Same eReader. Same storefront. Same file browser. Same everything. And I'm all but certain the NC doesn't phone home and complain that it's been rooted. And if it did--since the bootloader isn't locked--I seriously doubt B&N would try to deny you a service. (The more likely scenario is that an OTA update would try to remove root.)
EDIT: several rooted users have lost access to 1-hour free reading in-store (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=860830). So it's not true that nothing is lost. Sorry for overgeneralizing.
I can all but guarantee you that you'll be disappointed by the B&N store. I predict it will have very few developers, and very few "good" free apps. A better way of saying it is this: within 1 or 2 weeks of the B&N app store launching, most users will look at the Android Market, and say "Forget it, I want apps from the Market, not B&N."
-Matt
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I don't know who's been scaring you with witchcraft and vodoo, but here are a few facts:
(1) Rooting is very easy. If you're the kind of person who is OK with opening a command prompt and doing things like "listing directories" and "renaming/moving files" it's quick and painless. It also takes less than 5 minutes (probably about 2) to take your device back to stock.
(2) Rooting does very little to the device. The key is that it allows the user to change system files, something that B&N would prefer we didn't do. Several users root their NookColor (NC) and then scratch their heads because they see no obvious change.
(3) Package mods like autonooter only make a few system changes (aside from the several nice system apps they add), in particular, they allow you to sideload apps. Once you do that, you can reorganize the way your NC looks and performs, so that it handles like a vanilla Android device.
(4) Most importantly, ROOTING DOES VIRTUALLY NOTHING TO CHANGE THE B&N INTERFACE. All--I repeat--ALL the things your NC does out of the box, it still does after rooting. Same eReader. Same storefront. Same file browser. Same everything. And I'm all but certain the NC doesn't phone home and complain that it's been rooted. And if it did--since the bootloader isn't locked--I seriously doubt B&N would try to deny you a service. (The more likely scenario
is that an OTA update would try to remove root.)
I can all but guarantee you that you'll be disappointed by the B&N store. I predict it will have very few developers, and very few "good" free apps. A better way of saying it is this: within 1 or 2 weeks of the B&N app store launching, most users will look at the Android Market, and say "Forget it, I want apps from the Market, not B&N."
-Matt
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Still, if you aren't comfortable then don't root. Things can still go wrong. Things can be fixed but you have to have the patience and not freak out when your device goes into a bootloop or just freezes, which I'm not saying it will but there is always that chance.
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Still, if you aren't comfortable then don't root. Things can still go wrong. Things can be fixed but you have to have the patience and not freak out when your device goes into a bootloop or just freezes.
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You know, I'm sorry for taking a bull-in-the-china-shop approach. Clearly I would never make it at a technical help desk. You're absolutely right and I should have noted that there's a minimum comfort level...the subtle comment about "OK with command-line editing" probably didn't get the point across.
-Matt
Not everything it does out of the box works after rooting...
gadgetrants said:
I don't know who's been scaring you with witchcraft and vodoo, but here are a few facts:
(1) Rooting is very easy. If you're the kind of person who is OK with opening a command prompt and doing things like "listing directories" and "renaming/moving files" it's quick and painless. It also takes less than 5 minutes (probably about 2) to take your device back to stock.
(2) Rooting does very little to the device. The key is that it allows the user to change system files, something that B&N would prefer we didn't do. Several users root their NookColor (NC) and then scratch their heads because they see no obvious change.
(3) Package mods like autonooter only make a few system changes (aside from the several nice system apps they add), in particular, they allow you to sideload apps. Once you do that, you can reorganize the way your NC looks and performs, so that it handles like a vanilla Android device.
(4) Most importantly, ROOTING DOES VIRTUALLY NOTHING TO CHANGE THE B&N INTERFACE. All--I repeat--ALL the things your NC does out of the box, it still does after rooting. Same eReader. Same storefront. Same file browser. Same everything. And I'm all but certain the NC doesn't phone home and complain that it's been rooted. And if it did--since the bootloader isn't locked--I seriously doubt B&N would try to deny you a service. (The more likely scenario
is that an OTA update would try to remove root.)
I can all but guarantee you that you'll be disappointed by the B&N store. I predict it will have very few developers, and very few "good" free apps. A better way of saying it is this: within 1 or 2 weeks of the B&N app store launching, most users will look at the Android Market, and say "Forget it, I want apps from the Market, not B&N."
-Matt
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The entire reason I have waited to root at this point is the loss of the 1 hour free reading in store, and the instore promotions. None of these are available after you root.
It also seems as if only a couple of people are actively trying to address this, so I continue to wait to root.
rlkelley said:
The entire reason I have waited to root at this point is the loss of the 1 hour free reading in store, and the instore promotions. None of these are available after you root.
It also seems as if only a couple of people are actively trying to address this, so I continue to wait to root.
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Thanks for the pointer. Didn't know that (will revise my post). My wife may kill me.
I read the first 4 pages of the thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=860830), then skipped to the last. My naive impression is it affecting about 6 out of 10 owners. There are definitely several who are rooted, and not having a problem. I can totally understand not wanting to take the risk.
-Matt
notinterested said:
I must have missed it but where in that thread is there any mention or confirmation that 1.1 is this month?
I see nothing of the sort.
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He tweeted about January as well (@__ted__):
"A serious bug in WiFi, a memory leak in browser, and overall tune-ups. 1.1 is coming up later in Jan! "
It was my understanding that you could not buy from the B&N store via your B&N account post-rooting. I'm not sure if I would be authorized to read the books I've purchased due to DRM on them. I've purchased some expensive reference books and don't want to lose access to them, or access to buy more.
I'm also uncertain these things work post-root:
Sharing, Quotes, etc
Lending books.
I'm may root at some point, very comfortable technically. No fear of rooting, just my preference at this point. If I had a microsd and reader, I'd probably done it by now just to experiment.
From reading through the threads, in regards to loading all the "extra stuff" it seems like a lot of... this works, but you need to go an change this or that, change the pixel density to display properly, youtube working, not working, gmail contacts syncing not syncing, this works, but.... you need to use this and then edit this, etc... maybe not everyone's user experience, but defintely some.
So to me, the device is working fine and not having to fiddle with anything to get it working properly. I know myself and if I root, I'll be loading launchers, applications, troubleshooting why this or that doesn't work properly and sounds a bit time consuming and hacking around a bit. I'm not looking for a new "hobby" of figuring out how to get things to run properly and smoothly as I expect from a finished product. I'm using a e-reader and would like some extra social, productivity, and games to pass the time.
Rooting, not rooting... not wrong, just different.
Okay, I picked up a NOOKcolor last week as my entry into both tablets and Android. I was thinking about waiting for the iPad2 but decided that a 1024x600, 7" Android tablet for 1/2-1/3 the price of an iPad was WAY too hard to pass up, especially given that I don't know yet how much I'll actually use a tablet (I think I'll end up using it a ton after a week of ownership, though!).
The first thing I did was upgrade to B&N 1.1 and then root that, and that went very smoothly. I played with that a bit and then decided to try our Nookie Froyo, and that also went relatively well. On the positive side Froyo gave me access to my corporate calendar, cut/copy/paste, and newer versions of the major apps, but on the negative side wifi seemed pretty flaky (mostly related to sleep/resume) and I couldn't figure out how to use the NOOKcolor's richer reader app with magazine, newspaper, and childrens' book support. As a result I ended up going back to the rooted stock version. However, I hate that I've lost corporate calendar access, and for the life of me I can't figure out how to set up a proxy server for when I'm on my corporate wifi.
After a week of playing with this thing, I have three major questions. If these are already clearly answered elsewhere please just say so (ideally with a pointer to the existing answer).
1) I'd like to have both the NOOKcolor reader (vs. the NOOK app on the market) and things that are offered by Froyo (and higher), e.g., corporate calendar. Is that possible? Can I add the Froyo versions of the mail/calendar/contacts apps to 2.1, or conversely can I add the B&N reader to Froyo/Honeycomb?
2) It's just amazing to me that Android doesn't support proxy configuration as a first-class option! Is this something that's been added in Honeycomb? If not, does the custom kernel in Nookie Froyo/Honeycomb support iptables so that I could use one of the proxy configuration tools out there? If so, can someone recommend a tool that's worked for them?
3) How much of a difference does overclocking make in day-to-day use. I'm not talking about benchmark test numbers or a slightly smoother framerate in Angry Birds. I'm talking about using the normal apps like the browser, email clients, and just navigating around in launchers and such. Is it a big enough difference (and a safe enough change) that it's worth doing, or is it more about bragging rights?
Thanks much for all the amazing work folks have done for this device!
Amazon cloud service is not working on my rooted nook. I have it running on my cell but on the nook its saying no cellular or wi-fi availible? Un installed reloaded and im getting the same thing?
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Working great on mine.
Phiremod 5.1 on internal.
Edit - works on 5.2 also...
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Wont let me connect. claims i don't have a connection. Nook Color 1.0.1 stock rooted stock kernal.
Same with me - error 70 - no connection (although Wifi is working well) - NookColor 1.0.1 stock rooted.
Same here. I installed the Amazon MP3 app from the Android Market first. Just for grins I uninstalled and reinstalled from the Amazon Market. Exception #70 for me every time.
But I can shop for MP3 from the app just fine, and all other wifi connection seems to be working. Autonootered v3, 1.1.
I don't have my NC with me right now as I'm at work and there's no point. I will look at this as soon as I get home to see if I'm having the same issues. I'm on stock rooted as well.
Same problem here. Running rooted stock nook color v1.1.
Error 70 with me as well.
Sad panda.
Works beautifully on my phone though.
Someone needs to call Amazon about this. I would, but I'm too lazy. When you call you get a real human who actually speaks English. I'm also not sure what reaction I'd get from admitting to Amazon that I own a Nook Color.
[email protected]
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Better to smile and dial for stuff like this rather than wait for someone to email you back 24-48 hours later.
WTF? Getting same error.
And, while I was trying to sign into the cloud, the damn thing rebooted. Hmm.... Something is fishy here. Maybe the stock NC ROM has something to block connectivity? I looked in the hosts file, and didn't find anything. Digging around some more.
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WTF? Getting same error.
And, while I was trying to sign into the cloud, the damn thing rebooted. Hmm.... Something is fishy here. Maybe the stock NC ROM has something to block connectivity? I looked in the hosts file, and didn't find anything. Digging around some more.
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Much, much love if you can find the problem. I don't think it's a hosts issue as you can browse the MP3 store without any problems. I could be wrong though.
I emailed them and got some canned response about the NookColor not being able to use Amazon Market due to restrictions - even though the email was clear in that what was not working was their cloud drive. This may be a dumb question but does it have anything to do with the required Adobe Air? Neither my iPad nor touch will work with it either, but in those cases I assumed it was because of their inability to use Air?
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I emailed them and got some canned response about the NookColor not being able to use Amazon Market due to restrictions - even though the email was clear in that what was not working was their cloud drive. This may be a dumb question but does it have anything to do with the required Adobe Air? Neither my iPad nor touch will work with it either, but in those cases I assumed it was because of their inability to use Air?
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That's why I suggested calling.
I think someone with a net sniffer needs to see what internet hosts a successful AZCloud connection makes, then see what (if anything) is coming out of the NC. I bet the stock NC ROM is blocking something and there is nothing wrong with the AZCloud app or Amazon's cloud. That would explain why a new ROM would connect and the stock ROM (but rooted) won't connect. I bet there is some transport that is disabled, or ports blocked on the NC side.
Running nookie froyo on an older oc kernel (2.6.29-omap1 [email protected]#44) and was able to download the app from amazon's app store and run it perfectly.
Not sure I'll use it, uploading to the cloud's a PITA IMO. There's no drag and drop support and their idiotic uploader app takes my neatly organized library (by artist) and presents it to me sorted by album making it a painstaking process to upload select artists to the cloud. I suppose it's their way of encouraging us to purchase extra space beyond 5gb.
muzzy996 said:
I suppose it's their way of encouraging us to purchase extra space beyond 5gb.
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Buy any album and get 20gb space for a year. You can buy albums priced as low as $0.69 cents.
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I don't have my NC with me right now as I'm at work and there's no point. I will look at this as soon as I get home to see if I'm having the same issues. I'm on stock rooted as well.
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I can't speak for the all of us, however i have been up all night with anticipation for your answer.
It seems this issue is exclusive to those running elcair, one semi work around i discovered is to login to the service via the browser, you cannot stream due flash however you can dowload your library.
Search as I might, I've found nothing to go by that is close to being up-to-date; either on the XDA forums or elsewhere. I am attempting to figure out how best to root my NC to get the most functionality out of it. So far, I believe CM7 may be the way to go with it but I'm wanting to be sure before rerooting. Is there been any chart compiled with information about the different available roms specifically geared for the NC with the pros/cons/comparisons of the attributes specific to each rom? I'm also looking at finding any rom "Gotchas" as well. And please, before it even begins... I am not asking for opinions/favorites. I am looking for the facts and nothing beyond that. I want to push my NC to its limits but stability is still part of the end goal.
Thanks!
To my knowledge, no, there is no such comparison, primarily because of the intensity of CM7 development for the NC. There are forked variants of CM7, mainly Phiremod and MIUI (I believe the only version for the NC is the one built on CM7), but otherwise there are only far less robust options (Honeycomb preview/test builds) and outright obsolete ones (Nookie Froyo).
The other option is to root stock with ManualNooter, which some people do prefer.
All of the above are having issues with the Market right now, requiring some rather annoying temporary workarounds (setting dpi to 160 and frequently clearing Market data). Another "gotcha" if you use B&N content is that the Nook app's Search button is unresponsive in CM7, meaning you have to set up a Search softkey in order to use it.
The last stable release of CM7 is also a bit out of date, and you would probably be better served by a recent nightly (I've seen issues reported with 177, but 176 is solid), incorporating features like deep sleep, a built-in boot menu, fastboot, compatibility with the Nook Tweaks app (overclocking, voltage stepping, enhanced audio gain, and USB host) and kernel updates from B&N's last update, among other things.
Appreciate the input... I've been reading a lot lately and your observations fall inline with most everything that I'm reading. I had been using ManualNooter but I wanted to gut the B&N ROM altogether. I've loaded CM7 and it is working well. Couple market glitches (Version not supported, No Netflix showing in market, etc.) but mostly its working well so I'll keep plugging away. I had to do the LCD Density change in order to get Kindle to install but; ahhh, the joy of modding.
Again, thanks for your help!
Netflix does work just fine if you google up an apk.
Taosaur said:
Netflix does work just fine if you google up an apk.
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I didn't say that Netflix wasn't working, simply that it won't update from the market from my early Netflix version. I am able to use the older one but it keeps crying about wanting to update upon loading. I cancel and then watch movies. I've not watched a full movie yet in this way so I can't say yet if there are any issues beyond the "won't update via market" issue.