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Hey y'all, I'd just thought I'd introduce myself to the Kaiser world seeing as I'm going to be spending a lot of time here. I'm a freshman at Notre Dame, and needed (..wanted) a smart phone to help me organize this mass of everything happening around me. Being the technology geek I am, I looked quite a bit into it and decided that the "Tilt" was far superior to my dad's heralded and suggested iPhone (plus I kinda loathe Apple. So eh. lol) Anyway, I received my Tilt as a gift last night, and realized that it came bloated with AT&T's crap and didn't look like the same home screen I saw on HTC's website. After spending more than a couple of hours here, I was successful in blindly following different instructions I found in at least 3 different threads to flash the Dutty's HTC ROM to my Kaiser, and I absolutely love it. Problem is though, I have no idea what hell is going on here. I don't know what a .RUU even is, and even though a .CAB was easy to figure out, I have no idea where to put them on phone. And before I get lambasted with the mantra of "use the searchbar" venerated by web forum's loyal users, I'd like to point out that if you take a step back, look at all of this info on here, and pretend you don't understand any of it, it's pretty damn hard to decipher this stuff. So if you guys know of any "Pocket PC New Users" guide written by knowledgable ppl on the web, and any XDA-Beginner guides or anything, please point them in my direction. I'm more than happy to read. However, reading 33 forum pages to figure out how to do 8 lines of instructions for one thing is extremely time consuming, cumbersome, and not that helpful. So again, it's nice to meet you all, and maybe y'all could help point me out in the right direction.
---Holy crap, that's a lot of text. Basically, hey y'all, nice to meet you, and do you think you could help out a newb who's able and willing to learn?
use the search bar!!!! hahahaha jk.....just read the wiki
As well as what's already been suggested, take time to read the manual and play around with the ppc. The importance of experiential learning can't be understated when it comes to these things. Unlike with full sized PCs, performing a hard reset to restore the ppc to an out of the box state is easy work.
So quick question. When I'm copying .CAB files or .EXE files onto my kaiser, where do I put them? I'm installing the iPhone app posted by Grumps, and I don't know where I should put it. Should I just make a file tree for every program I put on there under Program Files?
Hi, a .CAB file is just an executable installer. So best place it in the root of your storage card and delete it after installation of the app. During installation you will be asked where to install the app, PPC memory or storage card. Selecting the storage card will of course save memory, but for some reasons some apps don't work from storage card. You will have to try...
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So quick question. When I'm copying .CAB files or .EXE files onto my kaiser, where do I put them? I'm installing the iPhone app posted by Grumps, and I don't know where I should put it. Should I just make a file tree for every program I put on there under Program Files?
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I normally keep all my .cab files on my storage card so when I hard reset or re-flash I know where they are. Doesn't matter where you put them - I created a directory called (unoriginally) My Cabs. When you touch on them they will install to the necessary directory on the ppc, and can be uninstalled from the settings menu.
The .exe files could be a bit different. Some need to be installed from your pc - they will then install to the ppc next time you connect with activesync, and can be uninstalled in the same way as .cab files. Other .exe files can be stored anywhere on your ppc or storage card and will run each time you select them.
Heya. Let me be an opportunist and troll your thread to introduce myself here, too. hey all, homies n gyals, I'm Creiz, yes, it's my real name, pleased to meet y'all.
As for your quick question, If you use windows XP with dotNet framework 2, you can use this niifty utility called CabViaAciveSync to directly install your .cab files from the PC.
Right click the .cab => CabViaActiveSync.
Magic.
;P i´m noob too if you dont mine i'll use this thread to intruduce me too hehe and make a question. if i put a new rom my guarantee expires? and is good to change the default rom? what do you "kaiserians" think is the best rom for kaiser and how it works, if i make hard-reset the default rom appears? sorry but im really a noob in pocket things...
well i'm ricardo o/
fightin4theirish said:
Hey y'all, I'd just thought I'd introduce myself to the Kaiser world seeing as I'm going to be spending a lot of time here. I'm a freshman at Notre Dame, and needed (..wanted) a smart phone to help me organize this mass of everything happening around me. Being the technology geek I am, I looked quite a bit into it and decided that the "Tilt" was far superior to my dad's heralded and suggested iPhone (plus I kinda loathe Apple. So eh. lol) Anyway, I received my Tilt as a gift last night, and realized that it came bloated with AT&T's crap and didn't look like the same home screen I saw on HTC's website. After spending more than a couple of hours here, I was successful in blindly following different instructions I found in at least 3 different threads to flash the Dutty's HTC ROM to my Kaiser, and I absolutely love it. Problem is though, I have no idea what hell is going on here. I don't know what a .RUU even is, and even though a .CAB was easy to figure out, I have no idea where to put them on phone. And before I get lambasted with the mantra of "use the searchbar" venerated by web forum's loyal users, I'd like to point out that if you take a step back, look at all of this info on here, and pretend you don't understand any of it, it's pretty damn hard to decipher this stuff. So if you guys know of any "Pocket PC New Users" guide written by knowledgable ppl on the web, and any XDA-Beginner guides or anything, please point them in my direction. I'm more than happy to read. However, reading 33 forum pages to figure out how to do 8 lines of instructions for one thing is extremely time consuming, cumbersome, and not that helpful. So again, it's nice to meet you all, and maybe y'all could help point me out in the right direction.
---Holy crap, that's a lot of text. Basically, hey y'all, nice to meet you, and do you think you could help out a newb who's able and willing to learn?
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Hi:
I am really a newbie too, only had the Tilt for 2 weeks now. But, I have read hundreds of threads here already, so I'm learning. My suggestion to you is, be sure to install Kaiser Tweaks, it is a great app, which will make it very easy to perform certain registry edits on your phone. The most important of which being, it enables you, with one click to enable hsdpa (faster than 3G internet). For some insane reason AT&T has this disabled on the Tilt. Although, maybe with your new ROM on there you may not need it. I am still using the AT&T ROM, so I'm not sure which features are or aren't on Dutty's ROM.
Anyway, just keep reading, it's amazing how much there is to learn here
My suggestions for best apps for the Tilt are:
Kaiser Tweaks (one click reg edits for many useful items)
SPB Pocket Plus (today screen interface, which looks cool, and is so useful for quick access to programs, files etc.)
All SPB products are pretty cool, and there are several to choose from depending on your needs
S2U2 (slide to unlock program, very useful, although the Tilt seems locked when in suspend mode, it really isn't)
PS: You're right alot of people do just tell you to go search, but believe it or not, there are MANY people here, who are willing to help a newbie, and understand that sometimes searches don't give us the answers we need. I have received tons of help from very nice people here.
Is there any "fun" bluetooth software outthere anymore. It always fun to be able to mess with your friends but I have not been able to find anything for a long time that will allow that happen. Any ideas?
Yes I too would like to use BT to listen in on conversations, DOH I mean have fun with friends.
Interesting... I Didn't even know there was such a thing...
either did I. Is there?
I have something called Smurf, it's a program for Bluejacking anything bluetooth aware. No idea where to get it as it was somewhere obscure and it crashes if I try to access the about screen (rest of it works quite well though).
Here looks favourite for a website, but I might be wrong -
http://www.gatefold.co.uk/smurf/
I have a cab for it called "SmurfSetup04", so it looks like it's that url...
Hope that helps.
This should be interesting if i can get it to work... lol oh well...
Cavey.co.uk said:
I have something called Smurf, it's a program for Bluejacking anything bluetooth aware. No idea where to get it as it was somewhere obscure and it crashes if I try to access the about screen (rest of it works quite well though).
Here looks favourite for a website, but I might be wrong -
http://www.gatefold.co.uk/smurf/
I have a cab for it called "SmurfSetup04", so it looks like it's that url...
Hope that helps.
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Blue Jacking
Ok, firstly its an offence in most counties as its considered hacking under most laws but for information purposes:
Bluetooth phones that were able to be bluejacked were only made about 4 years ago as all the bluetooth pairing stack has been hardened since then try to prevent this.
Im sure its proabably possible with the right kit, essentially using the original exploits you tricked the traget device into a situation where it thought that you were re-pairing a device and explioted this.
Anyway, probably the most fun thing you can still do over bluetooth is with a program called bluetooth sniper, this lets you send images and text to target phones whilst re-writing your bluetooth id. Its also possible to send messages to phones where the bluetooth is turned on but set to hidden mode.
It also has a war mode, you set a message, it scans for all phones, send the message to all local phones and then does it again and again and again.
Use with caution as you can expect other phone users get a bit pissed after the 10th or so bluetooth message
If your running linux and not a ppc theres a bit more things you can do like:
http://trifinite.org/trifinite_stuff_carwhisperer.html
this is the sort of attack you talk about, however it relighs on the bluetooth's device to still have the default pass key, which many have.
http://www.secuobs.com/news/05022006-bluetooth10.shtml
this is a dos attack i belive for bluetooth
there is also
http://www.net-security.org/software.php?id=519
redfang which attempts to brueforce the passkey on the device, this is slightly diffirent from the original method used for btcrawler.
Anyway, like i said i wouldnt advise doing or using any of the above as its very very very naughty indeed !!
Great - thank you for the info. I will continue to do some more research and find out which one of these still works. I own a copy of the bluetooth sniper (yes, I bought it) and it never seems to work very good. The problem is you have to have the "passkey" to the other phone to be able to do anything.
Anyways - I'm not going to spend tons of time on it, as I just had some buddies I wanted to mess with. If anyone else has any other programs out there that does not require the remote users passkey I would love to hear what they are!
Tare Care....
Plazma remind me to never piss you off. Awsome info.
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Ok, firstly its an offence in most counties as its considered hacking under most laws but for information purposes:
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Don't confuse bluejacking with bluesnarfing.
Bluejacking is actually harmless (although possibly annoying) and involves sending a contact with a message to the bluetooth device concerned.
I haven't used Sniper, but Smurf didn't require a pass key and is free (forgot to mention that bit). Worked with a Sony Ericsson phone and a Nokia phone my friends had, their MacBook's and an Asus machine running Vista...
plazma247 said:
Anyway, probably the most fun thing you can still do over bluetooth is with a program called bluetooth sniper, this lets you send images and text to target phones whilst re-writing your bluetooth id. Its also possible to send messages to phones where the bluetooth is turned on but set to hidden mode.
It also has a war mode, you set a message, it scans for all phones, send the message to all local phones and then does it again and again and again.
Use with caution as you can expect other phone users get a bit pissed after the 10th or so bluetooth message
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i tried to download sniper but it said it does not support my firmware or something like that, so i did some research and found it need one of the old .net frameworks. i found the download in the Sniper forums but you need to join to download it... but of course i tried to join (about 2 months ago) and i still have not gotten the 'moderator approval' so i cant download it and thus cant run sniper
Sniper wasn't any fun because to do anything at all, it always pops up the passkey screen on the remote users phone.....thus, your name (device owner name) would always display and make the remote user connect with you. I am anxious to try this smurf program; however, I can't seem to get it installed. All of the new custom ROM's do not appear to have SQL CE installed on them, which is requires - and I can't seem to find the proper cabs to install it on the tilt. If anyone has the proper cabs I need, please post them!
smurf
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Sniper wasn't any fun because to do anything at all, it always pops up the passkey screen on the remote users phone.....thus, your name (device owner name) would always display and make the remote user connect with you. I am anxious to try this smurf program; however, I can't seem to get it installed. All of the new custom ROM's do not appear to have SQL CE installed on them, which is requires - and I can't seem to find the proper cabs to install it on the tilt. If anyone has the proper cabs I need, please post them!
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I have smurf running on my tilt, if anyone knows how to upload to a site by phone i'll post the cab there. i'm running confused stu's mobile vista 1.3 vc(us), coreplayer, vista dialer. i'm sure any version of his rom will do it just click my signature stating my rom.
Cavey.co.uk said:
Don't confuse bluejacking with bluesnarfing.
Bluejacking is actually harmless (although possibly annoying) and involves sending a contact with a message to the bluetooth device concerned.
I haven't used Sniper, but Smurf didn't require a pass key and is free (forgot to mention that bit). Worked with a Sony Ericsson phone and a Nokia phone my friends had, their MacBook's and an Asus machine running Vista...
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Indeed, bluejacking is often confused with bluesnarfing(which I have an app that will do bluesnarfing, bluebugging, and hellomoto attacks.) Believe me there are still PLENTY of phones and devices still susceptible to bluejacking, just not many still bugged for bluesnarfing or hellomoto attacks.
I've actually made REAL friends by bluejacking(bluejacked a nice lookin lady at the music store once as well as a bartender.)
If you're grey hatted.... check out bluezard... I believe it's www.wm-soft.com but it's not freeware(worth the money imo.) In addition to the attacks there is a built in console where you can attach to any of the remote services and send AT commands(such as dialing commands or sms commands) Doesn't do automatic scanning though, and that's a pain. A really nice bluejacker peice is mobiluck, it's actually geared more toward the exact social aspect of bluejacking that landed me my new friend. start mobiluck and leave it running in your pocket. The idea was that if you came within range of smoeone else running mobiluck you'd automatically exchange information. Didn't turn out that well because the author is very controlling and manually generates his keys and the process is a real pain in the ass.
btexplorer is another useful tool that can do snarfing but no bug or hellomoto, it's also not very intuitive, it's more of a semi consolar program.
Use these programs at your own risk. While bluejacking isn't technically illegal, bluesnarfing, bugging and hellomoto is. Not to mention that while bluejacking isn't illegal it can still get you an ass beatin' if your bluejack the wrong person and they see you sitting there in starbucks giggling.. So there is that risk as well.
I have been a Windows Mobile user for quite some time. I was a lurker in these thread begining in the 2002 & then Blue Angel days. I didn't really start try to contribute until the Kaiser came around. By this time I had spent 2 years watching, learning & reading. I also still consider myself very much new to CE & embeded devices.
One of the biggest complaints, the highest number of posts revolve around program compatibility issues with roms, both OEM & chef prepared.
One of the things most overlooked is the effect that installed programs can have upon each other. But it's not just the apps themselves that can cause issues.
Did you know that apps can both work or not work depending on the order they were installed? Have you ever wondered why a certain program just works for most, but not for you?
Before jumping to conclusions & thinking it must be something that the chef did that prevents you from using that favorite application, think about all of the programs you install & realize that many of them have to interact with parts of the OS at the same time & each program affects both the system & registry & hence can also affect each other in turn.
I have seen suggestions from others, particularly Kyphur, suggesting you to start over with installs. This is good solid advice. Install a few, see that they work & keep a few notes on the order of installation & what has issues when.
One point often overlooked, is that the order in which you install programs can have a great & varied effect on what works & what doesn't.
For instance, I know that with some Dutty roms that my favorite SIP, Teksoft FingerTouch, will not work if I install it before SPB Pocket Plus. I haev issues with BlackBerry Connect many times if I don't install it as one of my first applications.
You need to remember, that these roms are written by many different people. The are partly written by the Manufacturer, partly by Microsoft, influenced by OEM's & carriers, altered by chefs & then you are installing a dozen programs written by at least that number of developers. That leaves a lot of variables in which something can very easily go wrong.
Know your applications, always install your priority apps first, & don't install a high number of apps manually without a reset. You are much more likely to have issues mass installing apps than you are when you install a few, soft-reset, test them out & then continue your installation process.
Today alone, I had 6 messages about programs not working. For a few of these I installed the same rom, & after changing the installation order, I had no issues.
There are too many variables in these systems & their programs to think you can just install everything the same & always have it all work. Sometimes you need to take a little initiative & try something new, a different way.
The same can be said for Auto installers, UC & Shashimi. Installation order can make a difference. Now hopefully I get a few less messages about this, LOL, yeah right.
Great post and contribution as always. I just wonder how many people will actually read this.
My thoughts exactly as I happened to be online during Leo's Diamond v.1 feeding frenzy and the day the TyTn II update came out. Then reading the follow up soon later. Such as wait a minute, this is crap. It doesn't work with Igo , It doesn't work with HHC and on and on. Like Leo or HTC was supposed to load every obscure piece of kit ,to make sure that all of you could load your phones with garbage and they will still work as smooth as day one.
A little prethought and common sense go a long way. Well said GSLEON.
Edit: And congrats AllTheWay on the promo.Well deserved
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AllTheWay said:
Great post and contribution as always. I just wonder how many people will actually read this.
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I read it makes sense too
-McMex
Great post! Now to get the noobs to read...
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This is good solid advice.
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It most certainly is. I didn't know this info before. Thanks GS.
i've read it
footnotes please? lol j/k
Seriously great post how many will read. Make sticky!!!
thanks for the post
Great information GSLeon (as usual). That's why I prefer clean/lite ROMs, and installing the apps myself. I didn't know the reason - just noticed I had less (ie no) problems doing it my way. Now I know why!
This is also basic troubleshooting... This is exactly why when you come to a thread asking for help (particularly cooked roms) the first question the chef will usually ask is:
What all have you, or what do you have installed...
Most chefs wont even begin to consider YOUR issue a problem until this base has been covered. Installation of programs is the #1 cause of issues when dealing with the billion variable cooked roms.
My best advice is to actually spend the time knowing your programs, know what they depend on, know what goes where (kinda like sex ed). If you want everything to work straight out of the box without any fine tuning then your probably in the wrong place!
Excellent Post!!!
Thanks for the info GSLEON!!!!
I have had my Tilt since Oct 07......having never owned a Windows based product ever before I read this forum like is was war and peace.....also never creating a thread just searching, searching, searching!
I have ran into this before and have a word doc with the order to install when flashing anew
Thanks for the great post and all of your help in the past.
I agree with most of what you're saying GS except for one instance that is messing with me. I jus bought a TyTn II to replace my water damaged Tilt. I bought it here from the U.S. but the box says Singapore. I flashed the WM6.1 update and everything is cool except for the HTC weather. This is a HTC application and they should have gotten it right b4 releasing the Rom. Things that come STANDARD with an OEM ROM should automatically work. All the 3rd party stuff that you said I do agree with. Now, anybody know how to fix this little issue?
Well said! Consider myself as wery fresh on CE, this can probobly be repeated to the even more advance user as it is easy to forget that every brick plays a part on how the device acts. When I am starting on a new rom the first 2-3 days goes to the setup, alot of testing and hard resets. Its easy to forgett the fact: what worked yestoday on duttys rom does not automaticly work today on Laurentius26 (or any other chefs) rom.
well as my first week for android on NAND comes to a close i must say thanks to all for your help. these threads are the best in getting all the answers i need, and thanks also for the quick responses on the ones that i needed help with.
after trying all the flavors out there i must give props to Myns newest Eclair build. that has proven most favorable for my usage. thanks Myn keep up the good work. i look forward to more stuff from all you. and i mean what my signature means. if any of you need a tester, please PM me. i will gladly flash one, work it over a couple days and give you my opinion.
i am still stunned that i can get almost 10 hours out of a single charge and it only 2 hours to recharge. i had many reservations coming from winMO, but now that i have made the move, the reservations now seem trivial. the overall benefits work in my favor.
ok so there are some blue tooth issues, and some other fine tuning things, big deal. overall i give my experience above average marks.
i do have a few apps questions please
1. WinMO had a widget that gave one the ability to check mail and messaging and mark as read from the desktop area without having to open each individual message in messaging. is there such an app for android? i tried chomp but wasnt too impressed, and havent really found anything else to try after that.
2. i am a big landscape user- is there a keyboard that is a little bigger to accommodate the screen and 'clumsy thumbs?
3. there are some builds that have 'free market' does that mean that i can download anything and not pay for it?
4. i have read android will play mp4 video native. is there a free conversion tool out there someplace for a MAC? or maybe an android player that will do mov/avi video?
thanks again for all you have done. i look forward to more.
piperthedj said:
well as my first week for android on NAND comes to a close i must say thanks to all for your help. these threads are the best in getting all the answers i need, and thanks also for the quick responses on the ones that i needed help with.
after trying all the flavors out there i must give props to Myns newest Eclair build. that has proven most favorable for my usage. thanks Myn keep up the good work. i look forward to more stuff from all you. and i mean what my signature means. if any of you need a tester, please PM me. i will gladly flash one, work it over a couple days and give you my opinion.
i am still stunned that i can get almost 10 hours out of a single charge and it only 2 hours to recharge. i had many reservations coming from winMO, but now that i have made the move, the reservations now seem trivial. the overall benefits work in my favor.
ok so there are some blue tooth issues, and some other fine tuning things, big deal. overall i give my experience above average marks.
i do have a few apps questions please
1. WinMO had a widget that gave one the ability to check mail and messaging and mark as read from the desktop area without having to open each individual message in messaging. is there such an app for android? i tried chomp but wasnt too impressed, and havent really found anything else to try after that.
2. i am a big landscape user- is there a keyboard that is a little bigger to accommodate the screen and 'clumsy thumbs?
3. there are some builds that have 'free market' does that mean that i can download anything and not pay for it?
4. i have read android will play mp4 video native. is there a free conversion tool out there someplace for a MAC? or maybe an android player that will do mov/avi video?
thanks again for all you have done. i look forward to more.
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1. In incubus26jc's super eclair build he includes a messaging widget that may be what you're looking for. If you want just that widget. you can download his build and take the .apk file for the widget and move it onto your sd card or in an androidupdate.tar to install it. (pm me if you need further instructions).
2. Somewhere in the forum someone posted a QVGA/120dpi compatible HTC keyboard that comes stock on the Hero, etc. Many people prefer this and I believe the keys are a little bigger. Just search the threads for that.
3. No. The "free" means no paid apps will show up, only free ones.
4. I'm not sure. I don't use my vogue as a media device but I'm sure with a little googling you could find a solution.
Can use HandBrake for video conversion windows/mac/linux
http://handbrake.fr/
Hello All,
I have two small App Idea's that I want to implement on the Windows Phone 8 platform. The problem is I'm a little unsure where to start for resources.
The issue however is that for all the Dev resources MS has given us, they mostly start at weird points and has no or little impact on where I want to, or figured one should start. So stuff like, setting up a DB, or Using an Azure Server etc.
If not that, most other help I've found have been off point starting as well. XDA's own vids start off with OAuth etc, which are all great, but I'm not even near there yet for what I want to do.
Most other guides, like even MS's own recent JumpStart videos all hop and skip over certain things. So you're following along (Or I'm trying to) and they jump forward, skip tasks and pull out pre-done code so I assume I need different foundation before I can jump in at their stage.
So, I have my idea of what I want to do, buttons, calculator, lists. But I don't know how to start from some basic things. And I am a little reluctant to jump in to what they have for WP7 cuz I don't want to use anything that's been deprecated.
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
Check out LinkedIn. I started a group a long time ago for Windows Phone developers and enthusiasts. It's filled with programmers, Microsoft people, and there's lots of good references and people to ask.
McHale said:
Check out LinkedIn. I started a group a long time ago for Windows Phone developers and enthusiasts. It's filled with programmers, Microsoft people, and there's lots of good references and people to ask.
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Thanks for the reply, any specific link to this LinkedIn... I gotta admit, I never thought of LinkedIn as a place for help in this kind of thing...
As an update though, I already have started on the app I had in mind and now have some specific "How-do-I" questions, but undure where to post these. Thanks again however.
Here's the group. There are some pretty active members who are programmers.
http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=124767
-Mc
As weird as it may sound: I would suggest you get a beginners book on programming C# on the Desktop. That way you should learn to program from the ground up and get a solid foundation on how the language works (classes, properties, attributes, events, etc.)
Everything else later on is different libraries you will use. That is what most of the introductory videos are about. They show you which classes you use for certain functionality, how you properly wire everything up so it works together.
When you have the basics of how C# works (and most current programming languages like Java but also Objective-C or C++ share the same concepts although there are differences) the best way would be to start with a small project and ask questions when you get stuck or first have a look at StackOverflow if the same question has already been asked and answered.
Teaching someone how to program from the ground up in a forum only rarely works in my experience. But the previous poster might have had different experiences.