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how is it possible that copying files to sd card over wifi or usb is much more slower than copying to memory of phone. and how to fix it?
because wifi transfer speeds aren't speedy at all since it's very similar to direct downloading off 3g/hsdpa and usb transfers through activesync is nothing compared to the blazing speeds of copying files from a card reader
i know that card reaader is fast but i asked why is coping files to main memory faster than copying to sd card over wifi. because when i download to mainmemory the speed is 250kB and when i download to sd card the speed is 30kB.i want to know why is it so?thx
I noticed this today when trying to send some large files to my SD card. Almost made me feel like the phone is not USB 2. It was going to take several hours but once I yanked the memory card out and put it in my pc it only took a couple of minutes. Good question.
Go for USB and Softick Card Export for Windows Mobile for file operations.
raiisak said:
Go for USB and Softick Card Export for Windows Mobile for file operations.
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This seems like WM5Storage with a UI make over. Looks like its for Windows Mobile 2003 2005 and 2006... probably a typo on 2005 and 2006. Anyone have them both and can compare speeds?
WM5Storage looks a bit lighter, cab is less than 50 kb... I have the cab attached if you want to check it out! It was working on my last flash (Duttys Hybrid WM 6.1), i haven't installed it yet on this one.
Slow for me too
I thought I was having a real slow copy this morning using USB cable to copy to micro-sd in phone. For camparison, I was copying a little under 4gb of music files to the 8gb micro-sd card and it took like 2 hrs. I would have popped it into the memory card reader on the PC, but for some reason either the reader or the PC (vista 64bit) does not like the 8gb SDHC card.
Mine copys pretty fast if you install du meter I think it will show you the transfer speeds. Maybe you have a generic MicroSD ?
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Mine copys pretty fast if you install du meter I think it will show you the transfer speeds. Maybe you have a generic MicroSD ?
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For me, I'm using SanDisk. Do you happen to be using a SDHC card? I never noticed this speed issue copying to a regular 2gb card. Of course, it could be that I am copying 2-3 times more data now and just didn't pay close enough attention in the past.
cardreader works only after flash a new rom a thats all. and wm5torage doesnþt work at all
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how is it possible that copying files to sd card over wifi or usb is much more slower than copying to memory of phone. and how to fix it?
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This could be because when you download something the device will write little bits of data every time a few kBs are downloaded, so many little writes. Memory cards are VERY slow at writing small blocks.
Downloading to phone memory and then moving to the card with an explorer might be worth a try.
Same problem with many little files, memory cards don't like those.
BTW, the speed of the Kaiser's USB port IS USB1.1-like. Maybe the hardware is USB2-compliant, but as all traffic has to go through the CPU the effective speed isn't any higher. It will take a good 20 mins to copy a 950MB file.
I have a tiny keyring microSD reader that's lightning fast. I have a 2GB card inside that I can use like a common USB disk, and when I need more space or want to transfer stuff to the phone I remove it and put the phone's 8GB card instead.
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I thought I was having a real slow copy this morning using USB cable to copy to micro-sd in phone. For camparison, I was copying a little under 4gb of music files to the 8gb micro-sd card and it took like 2 hrs. I would have popped it into the memory card reader on the PC, but for some reason either the reader or the PC (vista 64bit) does not like the 8gb SDHC card.
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Hotfix for Windows XP that adds support for SDHC cards that have a capacity of more than 4 GB
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934428
Not sure that'll work directly for you in Vista 64, but you might find related items. I had to do that to my laptop to get my Tilt's card to read in my work laptop which is running XP 32. I need to get a new card reader at home unfortunately, no matter what I do to it, it won't read SDHC.
Hello all,
I am trying to copy files from my computer to my storage card. I'm currently using WM5Storage. Everytime I try to move the files over, it indicates that my storage card is not formatted, and asks if I wish to format it. I always click NO because I have several cab files on the storage card that I can use in case something happens and I need to reinstall something.
When I try to move things via Windows Explorer (the mobile device folder), I get the same result.
Anyone know how I can accomplish this?
Thanks so much.
when connecting the kaiser to the computer (xp sp3), you can see a new network connexion created and opened at 10 Mbts. That means the usb link is usb 1.1, a poor performance for a material as the kaiser.
Big files, using usb 1.1 are very long to transfer.
Best regards
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when connecting the kaiser to the computer (xp sp3), you can see a new network connexion created and opened at 10 Mbts. That means the usb link is usb 1.1, a poor performance for a material as the kaiser.
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The Kaiser provides USB 2.0 'Full Speed' specs which means up to 12 Mb (as opposed to USB 2.0 Hi Speed which goes up to 480 Mb) BUT it's not the hardware that accounts for the poor file transfer speed, it's Activesync/WMDC. Anyone who has ever seen files transferring across to from a PC with a healthy (but old) 10 Mb NIC will realise the Kaiser via Activesync offers nowhere near that level of performance.
ok well im trying to clean off my 8 gb micro sd card so im copying all the files to my desktop, well every so often i get the error "cannot convert file(random file) reached the end of the file" iv tried changing the name, file type, the only thing i can do is delete it or leave it, now i can run the cab file and it works fine from my phone. Iv tried to use my usb card reader and tower card reader but niether will even read my card, anyone have any ideas on why this is happening &/ or have to fix this, iv had the card for a couple years and never any problems and this tilt almost a year any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated , thanks
btw i just noticed something new why is this [OP] next to some names and icons now, didnt notice it before
the "[OP]" next to a person's name within a thread being viewed indicates that this person started the thread you are viewing, i.e. he/she is the "original poster" or some such.
regarding your problem, i assume you are stuck with using activesync to access your microsd card (because you say no card reader will read the card)? when microsd cards start acting up, most people will suggest sticking it into your pc via a card reader to copy files and run data recovery software and to eventually reformat the card. once again, i am assuming this is out of the question because your card readers will not see the data on the card.
activesync's file system access is sufficient but not very flexible and fairly poor. i have noticed that the remote desktop client on windows mobile is able to make your device's microsd card available to the pc you are connected to via remote desktop during the entire session. you might want to attempt a copy via this kind of a connection.
another alternate is to try "schap's network plugin". this will allow you to map a folder shared on your pc (remember to give this folder full write access) onto your device's \Network folder. then you can freely copy/paste stuff to/from your pc using the device's file explorer.
final option is to copy problematic files on to your device's memory and see if activesync is able to read from the device's memory. this is really only feasible if the largest problematic file can fit into the limited free space available on the device's memory.
when you are completely done and satisfied with the files you have recovered, stick the card back into the card readers connected to your pc and see if you can get the card reformatted while its in there even though the current file system/data on the card is not being detected.
finally, remember that most microsd cards (like nearly all other things) have a limited life...so maybe the card just needs to be replaced with a spanking new one now.
I found this little app/widget on the net earlier, it's called: dual mount SD
it allows the phone to be recognised as a flash drive on PC without having to choose disk drive from the drop down menu! it works even with charge only mode activated! android still functions but a bit slower when it is activated, and goes back to normal when deactivated. it supposedly has an option to force android to rescan the card after USB is disconnected, but I didn't see much difference in both cases.
I'm not sure if I can post the site where I found it, so google for it, and if the rules permit it, PM me and I'll direct you to it.
What about the data speed transfer?? It's really a problem to find a way to copy data to the phone without unmount the sd card and use a sd reader..
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I use DualMount SD too and it's just great!
I get around 750 KB/s on my class4 8GB card, but sometimes it goes up to 1.5 MB/s
it depends on how many files you're copying.
I get around 60 KB/s when I copy a map tile folder that's only 20 mb but has more than 6k files in it.
in my opinion, anything smaller than 1GB is not worth resetting your device for it.
Any idea why my SD is slow, or how to improve external SD R/W speeds? I found one app, "SD Speed Increase" that changes somethings in the system to help increase speeds, I also found out how and what file it changes, and verified it actually did make that change, but still my speeds are pretty poor. I have a ScanDisk 32gig, UHS-1 card. Any ideas?
p.s. after I installed the app I did gain about 1Mbps of throughput.
A quick search of google indicates that the Note 3 does not support UHS-1 transfer speeds.
Tried to download some files but I had to download it to phone's internal memory and then move it to sd card, since the phone doesn't allow to write to sd card.
and another problem, I bought an sdxc 64gb sd card. there's another way to transfer files from my pc to sd card in fast speed? should be like 40+ mb/s and it's transfering files around 4 mb/s, guess it's the lack of usb 3.0 port on the phone.
any faster way other than buying a usb 3.0 card reader?
airdroid and another wireless methods didn't work for me.
Thank you guys.
You're limited to what the phones USB controller allows you to communicate with it, and I suppose it used MTP anyway which is utter crap and slow.
As for downloading directly to SD card, it's impossible because Google put SD-card access limitations in it since KitKat. No worries however since Android L should re-enable those permissions again. (Apps now can only save in their own specific directory on the SD card in /sdcard1/Android/data/com.vendor.appname, so you better wait a while. If you absolutely need to move things between your SD card and internal memory to your own folders, the built-in File Commander has permissions to access your SD card fully.
You can d load files directly to your SD Card.
Settings> Xperia Connectivity > USB Connectivity> Wireless Media Transfer
You'll probably need to install the PC Companion software, and make sure that your screen time-out/stamina is off while it pairs for the first time, but then you can d/load files to your SD card.
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You can d load files directly to your SD Card.
Settings> Xperia Connectivity > USB Connectivity> Wireless Media Transfer
You'll probably need to install the PC Companion software, and make sure that your screen time-out/stamina is off while it pairs for the first time, but then you can d/load files to your SD card.
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tried that, it gets stuck and if I unplug the phone it says something about firewall and upnp, tried to disable the firewall and still the same.
No, it doesn't stick, it just takes a *very long time* to pair (once it is, it's fine) and you MUST make sure your display doesn't time out or Stamina mode kick in during the process
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No, it doesn't stick, it just takes a *very long time* to pair (once it is, it's fine) and you MUST make sure your display doesn't time out or Stamina mode kick in during the process
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will give it one more try.
Thank you.
edit: it works but still slow, will consider buying a usb 3.0 card reader.
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No, it doesn't stick, it just takes a *very long time* to pair (once it is, it's fine) and you MUST make sure your display doesn't time out or Stamina mode kick in during the process
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Another question, sorry for quoting you.
Tried to transfer some music, movies and tv series to the sd card. With teracopy everything seems ok.
After disconnecting the phone from pc either the music won't show or the movies, or tv series.
Befor I unplug the phone all the files appear but after I'm unplugging the phone it won't show the files on yhe phone and on the pc either.
Could it be a damaged sd card or it may cause by using exfat format? Couldn't find a way to format into fat32 format.
Any suggestions?
Are you sure the apps you are using to play/view let you into the SD Card?
I have several thousand songs and some movies on my SD Card and they are viewable from my apps.
The best way to format your SD Card would be from the phone itself if you want to guarantee the phone recognising the contents. I believe you use Settings > Storage > Erase SD card (My understanding is that it will format the SDCard too) write speed will be determined by the SD Card too, is it a high speed card? I also find that if you try and write multiple files, it slows down everything hugely, so I tend to do files singly (in the case of movies) and in smallish batches if music.
If you're using wi-fi, the speed of the network/distance from the router will play a part too
techguyone said:
Are you sure the apps you are using to play/view let you into the SD Card?
I have several thousand songs and some movies on my SD Card and they are viewable from my apps.
The best way to format your SD Card would be from the phone itself if you want to guarantee the phone recognising the contents. I believe you use Settings > Storage > Erase SD card (My understanding is that it will format the SDCard too) write speed will be determined by the SD Card too, is it a high speed card? I also find that if you try and write multiple files, it slows down everything hugely, so I tend to do files singly (in the case of movies) and in smallish batches if music.
If you're using wi-fi, the speed of the network/distance from the router will play a part too
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The item has been removed from ebay so here is some details but not the model number
64GB SanDisk Extreme Micro SDXC Memory Card Class 10 - 45MB/s UHS-I U1
Formatting it through the phone makes it exfat.
And yes I'm sure it's the external sd card.
But how is it possible that the sd card is full, I unplug it and plug it again and the folders are there but they are empty, plus no matter what is the size of the files that I transfer I have like 4-6 free gb's, there should be like 40 free gb's after the size of the files that I transferred.
You should consider that perhaps you got a cheap copy card and it's not working at the speed it should be, there are card speed apps on Android Market that should be able to tell you how fast its working. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a1dev.sdbench&hl=en
also see this thread for other details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/accessories/sdcard-t2879667
This is mine using the 'accurate with reboot'
Card is: SanDisk SDSDQU-064G-FFP Ultra 64 GB Class 10 Micro SD Card
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
read 40.42 MB/s
write 16.55 MB/s
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techguyone said:
You should consider that perhaps you got a cheap copy card and it's not working at the speed it should be, there are card speed apps on Android Market that should be able to tell you how fast its working. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a1dev.sdbench&hl=en
also see this thread for other details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/accessories/sdcard-t2879667
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Yes, it's a fake for sure.
About 2-3 mb/s reand and write.
Since the item removed from ebay I can't open a dispute. Hope PayPal will refund me.
If nothing else, at least we've worked out the problem
Not sure if this was already solved.
If you go on Camera, Settings, "Data Storage" change to SD Card.
Erasing the SD card from the phone seems to work more efficiently to provide you the confidence of starting from scratch.
Now everytime I take pictures or Videos, it is transferred straight to my SD Card.
Hope this helps for some that is still having some difficulties with the topic.