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Why are samsung leaking these to test, The FroYo FW must be into a good stage of development by now, I am unsure why we are 'beta testing' this and hoping for FroYo to be released working well straight off the bat,
Do you guys think we will get FroYo releases before it is officially released? I mean all these firmwares we are testing will be made into one that gets officially released.
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Of course we will get a leaked release.
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Of course we will get a leaked release.
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Is there a better community of beta testers than xda-developers?
I'm very happy with all my Samsung mobiles (...,blade, i780, Omnia2, ...) I hope Samsung STEP IN into this community and help us help them
Samsung: let us test your Beta please (We do it for free!)
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Why are samsung leaking these to test, The FroYo FW must be into a good stage of development by now, I am unsure why we are 'beta testing' this and hoping for FroYo to be released working well straight off the bat,
Do you guys think we will get FroYo releases before it is officially released? I mean all these firmwares we are testing will be made into one that gets officially released.
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Don't do that. You got the whole place jumping with excitement thinking that FroYo had been leaked. Your a cruel mean person.
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Don't do that. You got the whole place jumping with excitement thinking that FroYo had been leaked. Your a cruel mean person.
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Agreed you are mean
I nearly fell from chair.
IF they would release thier Froyo as beta to this forum - they could get beta feedback by reading about bugs posted by us AND does not have to deal with the consequences we know how to reflash - "normal" users dont.
So Win Win for both.
Yeah, you really should have titled the thread as a question. As worded, it makes folks think it's actually happened.
LOL at people's hopes being dashed.
there are already alpha versions out, if you check the Xda blogs
Samsung, your turn.
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FROYO
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there are already alpha versions out, if you check the Xda blogs
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Already Alpha versions out :|? What!? Where?
Really? No one as excited about thus as I am?
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Really? No one as excited about thus as I am?
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I fired up a google search and i found a lot of hits about a froyo alpha on a galaxy spica. Maybe some things got mixed up.
Yep, can't find anything about Froyo alphas or leaks for the Galaxy S, just for some of the older Galaxy phones.
I think we Android owners are a fairly impatient bunch.
In the time it's taken for the iPhone to go from 3.0 to 4.0, Android has had:
- 1.6 Donut
- 2.0 / 2.1 Eclair
- 2.2 Froyo
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
Luckily the Galaxy S is the flagship of Samsung which they intend to sell 10 million of, so chances are we'll be seeing good support and the stream of beta firmwares shows they're not sitting still.
Froyo has been confirmed for August in Korea, and most likely September in international markets.
We've got to be patient and remember the Nexus One is still the ONLY Android phone that has received an official Froyo update as of yet. Even the Desire, EVO 4G, Droid, Incredible and Droid X are still on the waiting list.
From the sounds of it August-October will be the time the various handset manufacturers will be rolling out their Froyo updates.
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Yep, can't find anything about Froyo alphas or leaks for the Galaxy S, just for some of the older Galaxy phones.
I think we Android owners are a fairly impatient bunch.
In the time it's taken for the iPhone to go from 3.0 to 4.0, Android has had:
- 1.6 Donut
- 2.0 / 2.1 Eclair
- 2.2 Froyo
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
Luckily the Galaxy S is the flagship of Samsung which they intend to sell 10 million of, so chances are we'll be seeing good support and the stream of beta firmwares shows they're not sitting still.
Froyo has been confirmed for August in Korea, and most likely September in international markets.
We've got to be patient and remember the Nexus One is still the ONLY Android phone that has received an official Froyo update as of yet. Even the Desire, EVO 4G, Droid, Incredible and Droid X are still on the waiting list.
From the sounds of it August-October will be the time the various handset manufacturers will be rolling out their Froyo updates.
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You're absolutely right. However i have a HTC Magic (very old android phone) and i'm running Froyo and it rocks =) hehehe, i know, i know, it's not official
Let's just hope Cyanogen gets one of these Galaxy S and starts porting CMmod to Galaxy S =)
I'm selling my HTC Magic right now to help buying this phone
Cheers,
Phk
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Yep we sure are
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
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Well they don't do themselves any favours by launching a new phone every couple of weeks and insisting on putting their own UI on top of Android.
Looking further afield: anyone think that Samsung will put Gingerbread on this baby?
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Yep we sure are
Well they don't do themselves any favours by launching a new phone every couple of weeks and insisting on putting their own UI on top of Android.
Looking further afield: anyone think that Samsung will put Gingerbread on this baby?
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Possibly but I think I have to go with the sceptic masses here that say samsung support isn't good in longterm and so I guess they won't do that. Unless ofc gingerbread is going to bring the massive UI update that vanilla android so desperately needs for usablity and samsung decides that touchwiy isnt necessary anymore.
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Let's just hope Cyanogen gets one of these Galaxy S and starts porting CMmod to Galaxy S =)
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There are developers assigned to port CyanogenMod to the Vibrant (T-Mobile US version):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729364
Unfortunately, looking at Wes Garner's Twitter, he seems rather more keen on the Slide than the Vibrant:
I like the slide better
@wesgarner so does that mean your gonna keep developing for the slide?
@XJRodzx probably more for it than the vibrant
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So don't know how that's necessarily going to work out. The intention is there, though, anyway - hope it's still in progress!
I have doubts with Gingerbread...from what we know so far, it's supposed to have a (MUCH NEEDED!) UI overhaul based around the Gallery's sexy look.
If a phone is launched with a certain interface, chances are the manufacturer probably wouldn't be keen on releasing an update that changes everything because of the issue with it being different to what the buyer paid for. Basically, it changes the product, and the picture on the box is no longer what you've bought. It's all well and good with something like Eclair to Froyo since it's largely just performance improvements and some new features rather than an overhaul.
If anything, I think Samsung would be more likely to release a new version of the Galaxy S at Gingerbread's launch. Much like it's doubtful the HTC Desire / Evo 4G / Incredible will get Gingerbread updates. Instead, HTC will probably have new devices ready for the new interface.
The Nexus One is the only current device I believe has a chance of Gingerbread, mainly because it's the 'official' Google phone and has been promoted and sold as a developer phone.They'll be wanting some nice apps ready for Gingerbread when it launches which will obviously need to be in development before Gingerbread-equipped phones launch.
Motorola europe just announced the official Froyo for our milestone at facebook.
Motorola Europe
Many of you have asked again for an update on the FroYo upgrade for Milestone, so we wanted to let you know that we have now entered the operator testing phase. We will give you more information as soon as we can.
I wonder why GOT´s leak hasn´t been updated while motorola devs work on the image ?
Fantastic news! Thank you!
Yeah...Proper Flash on the MS finally.... Hope it comes out soon
Great news...Was waiting for this for a lot of time...Now the developer can focus on the official to make the best 2.2 roms
i wonder how much they've fixed up the final kernel.
really an exciting news!!!
Hope flash video can be played properly on the final version
And the next post
Motorola Europe
Good news. We can confirm that Flash will be part of the FroYo upgrade, we have now entered the operator testing phase of our FroYo testing schedule. This update is still going ahead and we will continue to keep you informed of further developments
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Here is the pictures from facebook too
Yeah!!! Can't wait to see official custom ROMs!!!
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Read This:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
European Milestone Update Rollout in Q4
http://www.facebook.com/motorolaeurope
No info for carrier froyo rollout mate
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I wonder why GOT´s leak hasn´t been updated while motorola devs work on the image ?
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you might think about where nadlabak got his newer leaked kernels from....just an idea
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Great news...Was waiting for this for a lot of time...Now the developer can focus on the official to make the best 2.2 roms
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suddenly i feel this is the best thing of the whole world
thx for our devs 4 the wonderful works
cant find a way to express my,our ,er,i dont know,maybe someone may add
so when they will release this ...? we are waiting already for so long....next time I don't think I will buy again a Motorola...
Who cares about the build Motorola is giving us. We just want the kernel, kernel libs, and prop. files anyhow oh yeah and kernel sources..
Ah and ofc unlocked bootloader!!
I Don't care, as this will be my last Moto, will change to HTC/Samsung before x'mas
What I don't get is why it takes Moto so damn long to give us the exact same thing that Verizon Droid customers got in July-August!!
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What I don't get is why it takes Moto so damn long to give us the exact same thing that Verizon Droid customers got in July-August!!
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You should delete this post because actually, its not the same thing.
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You should delete this post because actually, its not the same thing.
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yeah, but it kind of is. Same software, different drivers. And the reality seems to be to me (Sorry if I'm wrong) that the software can be ported easily from one to the other, and the 2.1 drivers and bootloader just need to be updated for the 2.2 os and kernel.
Call me a conspiracy theorist - but I still think that Moto's dragging their feet because the Milestone 2 is almost exactly the same phone as the Milestone - it just has 2.2, which, conveniently Milestone owners can't upgrade to themselves.
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yeah, but it kind of is. Same software, different drivers. And the reality seems to be to me (Sorry if I'm wrong) that the software can be ported easily from one to the other, and the 2.1 drivers and bootloader just need to be updated for the 2.2 os and kernel.
Call me a conspiracy theorist - but I still think that Moto's dragging their feet because the Milestone 2 is almost exactly the same phone as the Milestone - it just has 2.2, which, conveniently Milestone owners can't upgrade to themselves.
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i agree on this.
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What I don't get is why it takes Moto so damn long to give us the exact same thing that Verizon Droid customers got in July-August!!
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The reason is : they want you buy a milestone 2 instead of upgrade your os.
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yes the Bionic is indeed. the Galaxy Nexus is going to launch with ICS, then the Droid RAZR will have an ICS update in Jan. followed by the Bionic & Thunderbolt(no ETA yet though).
This is awesome news! Yesterday I find out Asus is planning an ICS update for my tablet, today Motorola announces an ICS update for my phone. I think I made smart purchasing decisions or something?
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This is awesome news! Yesterday I find out Asus is planning an ICS update for my tablet, today Motorola announces an ICS update for my phone. I think I made smart purchasing decisions or something?
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this is a sign you need to go out and get ice cream today.
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This is awesome news! Yesterday I find out Asus is planning an ICS update for my tablet, today Motorola announces an ICS update for my phone. I think I made smart purchasing decisions or something?
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Nah, you're just lucky
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I was actually wondering about this last night.. great news! I kind of assumed they would, but I'm more curious about the timing.
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yes the Bionic is indeed. the Galaxy Nexus is going to launch with ICS, then the Droid RAZR will have an ICS update in Jan. followed by the Bionic & Thunderbolt(no ETA yet though).
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Is there any evidence that the Bionic is getting it after the RAZR? I know that kind of makes sense considering they very clearly stated that the RAZR is getting it and I'd imagine a lot of buyers are getting it under that assumption, but it would be kind of cool if the same or a close release date.
You all do realize that between the vendors and the providers, those projections rarely mean anything, right? It'll also be interesting to see how Verizon deals with an OS that will allow you to remove bloatware without even having root privileges.
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yes the Bionic is indeed. the Galaxy Nexus is going to launch with ICS, then the Droid RAZR will have an ICS update in Jan. followed by the Bionic & Thunderbolt(no ETA yet though).
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How do you know the tbolt is getting it?
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It really doesn't matter if Verizon approved ICS for the Bionic or not. By the time Razr receives the update the Devs will have everything need for a stable port to the Bionic. I don't think the Thunderbolt will get ICS since HTC is still working on it's successor "Vigor" will likely receive it first.
Cool thing about this is that we know it runs well on TI SoC's so performance should be awesome whether it comes from CM or from an official update. I for one hope for CM!
I can't remember the time frame it took CM to get from froyo to gingerbread.
I think if the bionic didn't get icecream sandwich, Motorola would have things to worry about, like a bunch of disgruntled customers who may never purchase another Motorola again. By the time we get it, Google may be announce Cheeseburger(joke name for next version )
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A Moto employee disclosed on twitter today the Bionic will be getting ICS within 6 weeks after the OS is released. Do you believe it?
http://androidandme.com/2011/10/new...-to-ice-cream-sandwich-6-weeks-after-release/
I heart Moto Might even get the xoom 2 now. Do well by me and I'll spend money with your company.
I believe they'll try and being under the Google umbrella they have the resources.
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I'm not going to hold my breath but if they pulled it off that would be awesome!
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A Moto employee disclosed on twitter today the Bionic will be getting ICS within 6 weeks after the OS is released. Do you believe it?
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I heart motorola's products. Not their ideas...
But I agree with the Xoom 2. May trade iPad for it (if its unlocked)
Also confirmed on their website, minus a precise eta.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
"A note about Ice Cream Sandwich:
We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR, Motorola RAZR, Motorola XOOM and DROID BIONIC by Motorola to Ice Cream Sandwich. We will provide more precise guidance on timing after post-public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google, as well as any possible additions to this list of devices."
good news but sounds a little too good to be true imo.
Droid Life says what Motorola meant was they will have a list of their upgrade timeliness in 6 weeks. That is more believable.
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Looking forward to ROMs that have it
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A Moto employee disclosed on twitter today the Bionic will be getting ICS within 6 weeks after the OS is released. Do you believe it?
http://androidandme.com/2011/10/new...-to-ice-cream-sandwich-6-weeks-after-release/
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Not true, read the Tweet. They will be releasing ICS devices 6 weeks after the OS is released.
Says NOTHING about our devices!
Having the ICS theme makes me want the official s/w.
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Not true, read the Tweet. They will be releasing ICS devices 6 weeks after the OS is released.
Says NOTHING about our devices!
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The Article I linked above and qoute DOES mention our device. As does the original. The tweet clarification was that they'll have a timeframe in 6 weeks, not the actual upgrade.
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Not true, read the Tweet. They will be releasing ICS devices 6 weeks after the OS is released.
Says NOTHING about our devices!
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This one does: https://twitter.com/#!/Motorola/status/127038157479870465
@nightdragon70 DROID BIONIC will get an upgrade to ICS. We'll have more info on timing after Google releases the final version
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The Article I linked above and qoute DOES mention our device. As does the original. The tweet clarification was that they'll have a timeframe in 6 weeks, not the actual upgrade.
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This one does: https://twitter.com/#!/Motorola/status/127038157479870465
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The fact that the Bionic is going to get ICS is old news. There are several threads about it already.
This thread is about ICS 6 weeks after release, which has NOT been confirmed yet, depending on how you wish to interpret the latest update on the original post::
http://androidandme.com/2011/10/new...-to-ice-cream-sandwich-6-weeks-after-release/
To me it sounds like all they are doing is confirming, once again, that the Bionic is going to get ICS which we've known about for a little while now, but there isn't a set date.
Basically, what I'm saying, is there is no news here. Just a misinterpretation from androidandme which has spawned dozens of forum posts and several other websites have linked to this article claiming the same incorrect statement that dates are confirmed.
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The fact that the Bionic is going to get ICS is old news. There are several threads about it already.
This thread is about ICS 6 weeks after release, which has NOT been confirmed yet, depending on how you wish to interpret the latest update on the original post::
http://androidandme.com/2011/10/new...-to-ice-cream-sandwich-6-weeks-after-release/
To me it sounds like all they are doing is confirming, once again, that the Bionic is going to get ICS which we've known about for a little while now, but there isn't a set date.
Basically, what I'm saying, is there is no news here. Just a misinterpretation from androidandme which has spawned dozens of forum posts and several other websites have linked to this article claiming the same incorrect statement that dates are confirmed.
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Go back and read what you originally wrote which warranted the reply it got. No one disagrees with the statement above. Futhermore, the op asked if anyone believed what was posted on Twitter, it wasn't being taken as fact. The fact of the matter is, you corrected him for no reason.
You also said this has nothing to do with our devices, which isn't true. Maybe you should go back and review what you wrote.
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Ehhh I'm going to say that we'll see it sometime AROUND the 6 week mark...but probably later. I don't want to doubt Motorola, but I highly doubt they'll have a build up within 6 weeks...they said next year for the RAZR, there isn't a huge difference between it and the Bionic. But I wouldn't also be surprised if Motorola was planning on using the Bionic as a test platform so they get it right on the RAZR...fine by me, if they screw it up, someone else will get a better custom ROM out (and probably will even if they do it right anyways lol)
ics
wonder what it would look like with blur ui
hmmm, I'm happy to see that they are pushing ICS, but I worry about how long it will take them to get it to the devices they listed...
So I just found a leaked screen shot of Verizon's upgrade schedule to ICS!
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/verizon-ic-update-schedule-leaked/
So the HTC Rezound should get the OTA next week on May 9th. The RAZR and RAZR MAXX will be getting the OTA in three weeks. But no mention of the Bionic... Oh yea, they decided to give us the .904 update while they finalized ICS for the newer phones. We just got shafted again.
Then again, its tough to know what is actually going on because they have to keep everything confidential. I doubt this would be case but if VZW and MOTO were having issues with ICS on the Bionic, I would have no problem giving them more time to make it right. But from what we've seen, it doesn't appear to be that innocent.
You do realize that we are a low priority because the phone isn't selling well, right? RAZR's the front-runner, making it a priority. We'll get ours by July, if we're lucky.
And yes, I am being a little pessimistic, but Motorola and Verizon need to step up their game already. Moto's making too many devices and Verizon's forcing bloat too much. That's what is slowing us down.
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I don't understand what is really taking that long. Development will continue on the latest and greatest but that doesn't mean we should get the shaft. I picked the bionic over the thunderbolt because I like the slightly thinner phone and longer screen even though it cost more.didn't think I would be buying a dead phone in terms of development. I should have just got the razr
I have Rooted 904 update Safestrap dual boot eclipse 2.2
My view is the Bionic is a phone they would prefer to forget. The Razrs are the hot phones so they get the priority. Maybe I woukd complain much more without ICS ROMs available.
It's interesting that on Moto's site the RAZR's are all listed as ICS upgradeable but the Bionic is not.??
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My view is the Bionic is a phone they would prefer to forget. The Razrs are the hot phones so they get the priority. Maybe I woukd complain much more without ICS ROMs available.
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There are ICS ROMs available for the Bionic. I've held off on flashing one because its my understanding that they are unstable and have missing features. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
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It's interesting that on Moto's site the RAZR's are all listed as ICS upgradeable but the Bionic is not.??
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Yes it is:
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...and-Services/Mobile-Phones/DROID-BIONIC-US-EN
"ANDROID 4.0 (ICS) UPGRADEABLE: WE ALL SCREAM!
Ice cream is cool. Ice Cream Sandwich is HOT. Needless to say, DROID RAZR is Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) upgradeable. You can find all the latest software upgrade news in our Motorola Support Forums. "
That is on the top of the bionics feature page.
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it would be nice if they would just let us have it.
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"ANDROID 4.0 (ICS) UPGRADEABLE: WE ALL SCREAM!
Ice cream is cool. Ice Cream Sandwich is HOT. Needless to say, DROID RAZR is Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) upgradeable. You can find all the latest software upgrade news in our Motorola Support Forums. "
That is on the top of the bionics feature page.
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That's a pretty big oversight, mentioning the RAZR on the Bionic page like that... Now is that the mobile site only, or is it on the full site too?
That's the full site. It says RAZR. Read the spec's on all the phones and Bionic does not have 'ICS Upgradeable'. I think we're getting swept under the rug.
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That's the full site. It says RAZR. Read the spec's on all the phones and Bionic does not have 'ICS Upgradeable'. I think we're getting swept under the rug.
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****ing awesome
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If we get swept under the rug I will demand a new phone. Part of the reason I bought this phone is because it was going to be updated with ics. I believe them reniging (sp?) on their word is sufficient reason for a phone replacement on vzw.
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If we get swept under the rug I will demand a new phone. Part of the reason I bought this phone is because it was going to be updated with ics. I believe them reniging (sp?) on their word is sufficient reason for a phone replacement on vzw.
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Agreed
Went to Moto website and under specs for Bionic it says android 2.3 upgradeable to 4.0 so maybe u miss read :x
Edit: Heres Link http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...obile-Phones/ci.DROID-BIONIC-US-EN.alt#anchor
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Went to Moto website and under specs for Bionic it says android 2.3 upgradeable to 4.0 so maybe u miss read :x
Edit: Heres Link http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...obile-Phones/ci.DROID-BIONIC-US-EN.alt#anchor
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Saw the same thing. Dunno where people are getting that we're not getting ICS from. If the thunderbolt and INC2 are getting it, that would be a travesty for the Bionic not to.
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look under the features section of the bionic, it says Droid razor. I'm think we'll be lucky to get ICS by late summer/ early fall.
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look under the features section of the bionic, it says Droid razor. I'm think we'll be lucky to get ICS by late summer/ early fall.
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if you click on the motorola support forums link where it says that it takes u to a page explaining which devices are getting ics and the bionic among others is on that list but yeah :/ it will prolly be a while. maybe we can get lucky with cheesecake.
Guys why is this even a topic. It's been confirmed we are getting official ICS by several sources along with moto. The ICS source code was released a little over a month ago, that helped out the devs. We have a solid device for the price and we have devs good enough to keep us happy and get us through until mid to late summer when we get the real thing.
ICS source was released 6 months ago. That doesn't help matters since we don't have an official release, an unlocked bootloader, or a real ICS kernel, however.