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all inclusive with patch rom (wm5)

is it possible to make an already full patched(button fix,camera,bluetooth,etc) rom with all basic programs (such as mms client,stk,backlight,etc)?
i think yes but i'm not able to make it..it will be very usefull for newbies such me..
with this full rom you do not need to post lots of duplicated threads and all will works since the beginning..

yeah i would like that to,
so we only have to install it without patching and so

very good idea!!!!
but now, apart the Wiki, there is a list of all patchs that must be installed?!
'cause I don't have enough time to read alle the pages in WM5 problem resolutions thread

well,
so far, i created a project for a extended rom under wm2005.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_WM5_Extended_ROM
Butt im stuck, it will not install off the rom after a hard reset.
If this would be working we do not have to worry anymore if we forgot or lost our sd card for the neccesary patches.

i think yes
i can make a list but someone has to do that
i think tha the 'default' are:
camera fix
wm5_v3 fix
button fix
midi with album fix
missing system programs (mycpl.rar)
traylauncher
wifi programs
sim manager
and a set of default programs:
pdf reader
xscaler
pocketplus
pocketrar
etc..

I would say no, i'd rather have the choice to install what patches i want. For instance if i dont use MMS or prefer the soft keys of WM5. The way it is now you can configure the device just as you want. Getting a working extended rom you can customise would be my choice. I definitely wouldnt want Pocketplus installed by default on my device.

It has to work first.
So anybody already found a working autorun.exe and config.txt files?
I Tried alot of those two, but still not able to get it working under te extended rom after a hard reset.

efjay said:
I would say no, i'd rather have the choice to install what patches i want. For instance if i dont use MMS or prefer the soft keys of WM5. The way it is now you can configure the device just as you want. Getting a working extended rom you can customise would be my choice. I definitely wouldnt want Pocketplus installed by default on my device.
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you don't have to use the all in one pack..
it's only the noob choise..and very easy to use..

flagg said:
efjay said:
I would say no, i'd rather have the choice to install what patches i want. For instance if i dont use MMS or prefer the soft keys of WM5. The way it is now you can configure the device just as you want. Getting a working extended rom you can customise would be my choice. I definitely wouldnt want Pocketplus installed by default on my device.
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you don't have to use the all in one pack..
it's only the noob choise..and very easy to use..
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Yes i dont have to use it; but if the patches are no longer released separately then i have no choice. If there is a choice of all-in-one rom and non-patched that will be ok. But you have to think of who creates the rom, it may be easier just to maintain one rom version. I guess we have to wait and see..
@pimbo have you tried the autorun from the K-Jam extended rom? May be different from the Universal files. Its here ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/

efjay said:
@pimbo have you tried the autorun from the K-Jam extended rom? May be different from the Universal files. Its here ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/
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Not yet, preparing my device now, autorun is 17kb from this one
setup is 104kb, looks common, exept the dates are a bit older.
Manually launching the autorun of files on the extended rom will work, so i guess that i have to do a hardreset again, thats what i going to do later the evening. lol 8)

:evil: :evil:
No luck. wil not automaticly run.
Still need to make the rom visible and run the autorun.exe for the installs.
But this is the nearest solution for now i guess.
So you still need a single cabfile on a sd card to unhide your rom and install all files on there.
If anybody knows the bytes to change in the nbk or nbf files or maybe in the bootstrap, the adaption could be completed and the patches would automaticly install after a hardreset. .

please don't OT
...so
dev can make all in one rom and single patch

flagg said:
i think yes
i can make a list but someone has to do that
i think tha the 'default' are:
camera fix
wm5_v3 fix
button fix
midi with album fix
missing system programs (mycpl.rar)
traylauncher
wifi programs
sim manager
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ok!!!!
From the Wiki...
camera fix [Camera2K5_v1.rar]
wm5_v3 fix [ba_wm5_fix_v3.rar]
button fix [Buttons_Fix_v2.rar]
midi with album fix [Album with midi.rar]
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traylauncher [http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/PowerToys/]
sim manager [ftp://xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/wm5_test/AsukalSIMManger.cab]
missing system programs [mycpl.rar --> ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/BA_WM5/Patches/Old Patches/mycpl.rar]
wifi programs [ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Programs/WIFI/Retina digital security/RetinaWiFiPoc.exe]
right?!

i for one would love an all encompassing rom patch. reading through all the duplicate posts and other resolutions is a real hassle for noobs. we see the same questions being asked every 3 days or so and it just creates more clutter for the other noobs to sift through. i figure a lot of those fixes should be included in the next patch of the current wm5 rom anyhow if people rather wait for that to come around.

Closer said:
flagg said:
i think yes
i can make a list but someone has to do that
i think tha the 'default' are:
camera fix
wm5_v3 fix
button fix
midi with album fix
missing system programs (mycpl.rar)
traylauncher
wifi programs
sim manager
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ok!!!!
From the Wiki...
camera fix [Camera2K5_v1.rar]
wm5_v3 fix [ba_wm5_fix_v3.rar]
button fix [Buttons_Fix_v2.rar]
midi with album fix [Album with midi.rar]
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traylauncher [http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/PowerToys/]
sim manager [ftp://xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/wm5_test/AsukalSIMManger.cab]
missing system programs [mycpl.rar --> ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/BA_WM5/Patches/Old Patches/mycpl.rar]
wifi programs [ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Programs/WIFI/Retina digital security/RetinaWiFiPoc.exe]
right?!
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nice job..so we have only to wait maimac or someone else..
we are all noob..we are all waiting for you :lol:
if ppl want to install single patch one by one they can do that
but i think that for noobs this is such as an "official" rom
tested and approved from xda devs

please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
buzz

buzz_lightyear said:
please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
buzz
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did not work, did the autorun in a folder called 2577. cab files on the root.
did a hard reset, but would still not install.
The screen of the 3sec before install wont pop up
But after i made my extended rom visible, it automaticly runs after a soft reset.(the 3sec screen pops up )
(last problem?)
But i'm going to get some sleep now, maybe that will help a bit :shock:

flagg said:
nice job..so we have only to wait maimac or someone else..
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OK! now I'm ready to flash with Mamaich Patch 3 ..

buzz_lightyear said:
please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
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This would not work. WM5 on BA lacks registry settings and driver for the extended_rom folder.

mamaich said:
buzz_lightyear said:
please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
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This would not work. WM5 on BA lacks registry settings and driver for the extended_rom folder.
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ok, then put that folder on your SD card.
buzz

Wizard ROM ported to BA - v1.0-ToMa discussion

I think this deserves its own topic. Original post from Tuatara:
Hi everyone ...
Sorry, I've run out of time for providing you with an updated ROM which I wanted to have feature complete. I'm off on vacation tomorrow for 2 weeks, and can't keep working on it until I'm back.
I've been playing around with many things (adding/removing files, fixing the Midlet Manager, updating Camera, etc.) but I haven't got the ROM to the point where I feel it's 100% ready for others - but having said that, I've uploaded it to XDA Dev, and you're welcome to give it a try and see if it improves things for you.
This is MAINLY an update from Mamaich's v2a ROM, which does contain the Quantum Timing Patch, and the Performance Tweaks.
I've also made a few filesystem changes - predominantly removing the Midlet Manager (which wasn't working), applied all of the Performance Tweaks as per the thread (and a few more), changed the default startup elements to suit my tastes (at the moment), and added some useful programs and details to the ROM. (psShutXP, Running Programs, Shortcuts to missing elements, etc.)
The ROM is in /Uploads/Blue Angel/wm5_test/Tuatara_v2a_Custom.zip
Inside the ZIP file is the nk.nba file, along with the updated registry files (boot.rgu, default.rgu, and user.rgu) which have been merged in. I've unfortunately forgotten to include initflashfiles.dat in the ZIP, but that file is directly available from inside the ROM anyways.
The ZIP also contains a different EXTROM - only the missing files, camera, and midlet manager are needed now, and there is no warning about publisher on installation anymore. You can obviously customize the EXTROM cfg.txt file to your liking, and install anything and everything all at once.
Additionally the ROM itself still has some additional space for applications, so if you want to cook your own, there is some space available to add more.
Sorry I won't be able to answer any questions about this ROM, or handle issues on it for two weeks, so it's up to you if you want to try it (or just decompose it and look at the changes).
Enjoy, and I hope everything goes well.
Regards,
Robert.
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For further information and download, visit the WiKi.

Personal thoughts: I think this ROM gives some performance boost indeed, not much, but it is noticable. Nearly every bug is fixed now, only the bluetooth disconnect issue is left. My BA is fianlly shows itself disconnected when i take it off the cradle (with the previous ROMs, it often showed that it is still connected).

Enabling SmartDialing
Hi, I've tried this ROM & this definitely faster! Thanks!
But I can't seem to enable SmartDialilng by removing the "_" from the mfc80u.dll_ and msvcr80.dll_ files for SmartDial will start to work? These 2 files are missing from this ROM but even after I've copied these 2 files into the \Windows folder, SmartDialing still doesn't work. Any ideas?

Re: Enabling SmartDialing
paullim29 said:
Hi, I've tried this ROM & this definitely faster! Thanks!
But I can't seem to enable SmartDialilng by removing the "_" from the mfc80u.dll_ and msvcr80.dll_ files for SmartDial will start to work? These 2 files are missing from this ROM but even after I've copied these 2 files into the \Windows folder, SmartDialing still doesn't work. Any ideas?
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I should take a look at one of the early versions of "New menu for WM5" (anything below 1.0.0 beta). Does anyone still have the CABs?

Re: Enabling SmartDialing
KTamas said:
paullim29 said:
Hi, I've tried this ROM & this definitely faster! Thanks!
But I can't seem to enable SmartDialilng by removing the "_" from the mfc80u.dll_ and msvcr80.dll_ files for SmartDial will start to work? These 2 files are missing from this ROM but even after I've copied these 2 files into the \Windows folder, SmartDialing still doesn't work. Any ideas?
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I should take a look at one of the early versions of "New menu for WM5" (anything below 1.0.0 beta). Does anyone still have the CABs?
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Here you go.
paullim29. These correct the problem for me.

Re: Enabling SmartDialing
rschell said:
KTamas said:
paullim29 said:
Hi, I've tried this ROM & this definitely faster! Thanks!
But I can't seem to enable SmartDialilng by removing the "_" from the mfc80u.dll_ and msvcr80.dll_ files for SmartDial will start to work? These 2 files are missing from this ROM but even after I've copied these 2 files into the \Windows folder, SmartDialing still doesn't work. Any ideas?
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I should take a look at one of the early versions of "New menu for WM5" (anything below 1.0.0 beta). Does anyone still have the CABs?
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Here you go.
paullim29. These correct the problem for me.
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Created a cab file and added to WiKi. Thanks.

Missing MMS client?
Hi,
I s to be missing my MMS client. I see an option for the MMS configuration but am missing the MMS application? Anyone facing this issue?

Re: Missing MMS client?
deepakr said:
Hi,
I s to be missing my MMS client. I see an option for the MMS configuration but am missing the MMS application? Anyone facing this issue?
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Hmm it seems that MMS is broken in this ROM indeed. Will add to WiKi.

mediaplayer still have a problem for playing in background
anybody solve this problem?

a771la said:
mediaplayer still have a problem for playing in background
anybody solve this problem?
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You should try a different program, such as GSPlayer or TCPMP.

ok... i use TCPMP
but i want to know mediaplayer don't work on this rom
ok himalaya's rom work for me

I downloaded the new Rom and having a little trouble trying to download to my SX66. I have upgraded and downgraded the WM5 on my SX66 several times. I was wondering since the rom file is nba instead of nbf does that make a huge difference. I admit have have not messed around with my device data cause I find that a little complicated. I usaully use the MA_Upgrade cause I don't have to tweak too much. Any suggestions?

Mr Chicago said:
I downloaded the new Rom and having a little trouble trying to download to my SX66. I have upgraded and downgraded the WM5 on my SX66 several times. I was wondering since the rom file is nba instead of nbf does that make a huge difference. I admit have have not messed around with my device data cause I find that a little complicated. I usaully use the MA_Upgrade cause I don't have to tweak too much. Any suggestions?
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In this case, you should use the harder way. Read step 4 of the upgrading process (see wiki) to upgrade via BaUpgradeUt.exe.

Mr Chicago said:
I downloaded the new Rom and having a little trouble trying to download to my SX66. I have upgraded and downgraded the WM5 on my SX66 several times. I was wondering since the rom file is nba instead of nbf does that make a huge difference. I admit have have not messed around with my device data cause I find that a little complicated. I usaully use the MA_Upgrade cause I don't have to tweak too much. Any suggestions?
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The nk.nba file needs to be converted back to nk.nbf regardless of whether you use MA_Upgrade or BA_Upgrade. I use MA_Upgrade. There is an modelid entry of the USER.rgu that should be changed to PH20B1. I'm not sure whether these *.rgu files need to be copied to the \windows dir or added back into the nk.nba file. Any thoughts KTamas, i'm thinking the later.

rschell said:
Mr Chicago said:
I downloaded the new Rom and having a little trouble trying to download to my SX66. I have upgraded and downgraded the WM5 on my SX66 several times. I was wondering since the rom file is nba instead of nbf does that make a huge difference. I admit have have not messed around with my device data cause I find that a little complicated. I usaully use the MA_Upgrade cause I don't have to tweak too much. Any suggestions?
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The nk.nba file needs to be converted back to nk.nbf regardless of whether you use MA_Upgrade or BA_Upgrade. I use MA_Upgrade. There is an modelid entry of the USER.rgu that should be changed to PH20B1. I'm not sure whether these *.rgu files need to be copied to the \windows dir or added back into the nk.nba file. Any thoughts KTamas, i'm thinking the later.
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You don't have to do anything with RGU files at all. You need to use xda3nbftool (with editfix.bat if you want) to patch the ROM.

Hi,
just upgraded to new rom and noticed i can't sync calender and contacts.
anybody has the same?
Gr
Paul

kluggie56 said:
Hi,
just upgraded to new rom and noticed i can't sync calender and contacts.
anybody has the same?
Gr
Paul
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Both works well for me...What error exactly do you get?

KTamas said:
kluggie56 said:
Hi,
just upgraded to new rom and noticed i can't sync calender and contacts.
anybody has the same?
Gr
Paul
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Both works well for me...What error exactly do you get?
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Nothing....that's strange. I'ts syncing, but Outlook has all data and my BA nothing. I've tryed reinstalling all, but no luck, even reinstalled my BA. No luck sofar.

Sorry,
Activesync gives the following message,
There is not enough free memory on tour device to synchronise information. Close programs that are free to up memory, or restart the device.
Ondersteuningscode 8007000e
gr
Paul

Sorry,
Activesync gives the following message,
There is not enough free memory on tour device to synchronise information. Close programs that are running to free up memory, or restart the device.
Ondersteuningscode 8007000e
gr
Paul

Orange Today plugin (Icons on Left Hand Side)

Does anyone know if the Orange M700 Today plugin is available as a CAB anywhere or something similar? After upgrding to WM6 my other half is fit to kill me as she really liked it. I tried tempting her with SPB Shell but got one of those icy stares

Maybe you should have a look in the extended ROM, the installation might be here...

Super Sheep said:
Maybe you should have a look in the extended ROM, the installation might be here...
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Thanks SS, it's a good idea but unfortunately the ExtROM doesn't contain much of interest.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1213228&postcount=11
The UK M700 ext rom is pretty useless actually. it only contains 4 cabs
MP_MMS3.5_OrangeUK_Trinity_060811.CAB - setup MMS settings ONLY (doesnt include gprs and wap stuff)
MP_CVSDcpl_20060920.cab - adds the Voice Speed Dial control panel (standard in HTCs rom)
PP_Fix_ShowTodayTheme.cab - Changes the background
PT_WA_Abaxia.CAB - Turns on the Orange Plugin
Everything else is including in the rom itself, the orange sounds, today plugin, colour scheme, icons, programs etc so installing the ext rom wont get these back.
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I know someone is trying to dump the Orange ROM but haven't seen one posted yet. Perhaps I should be thinking of an alternative? Any ideas?

You might care to try this,it's from the Hermes but works quite well on the Trinity.

I just extract it from my device, but might be localized in French...
This cab seems to be better than just my files and registry export

Many thanks. It installs fine and does the job. Not as good looking as the M700 version but beggars cant be choosers

I've got the files somewhere! They reside in the Application Data folder and are part of the main ROM installation, not extended ROM.
I'll try and find where I put them and repost

Here an archive with registry information and the files.
All the files goes to \Application Data\DIL_APP
Note : as I said earlier this is from a FRE ROM...

As promised, here is an English version.
The DIL_APP folder must go under Application Data, so copy it there first, then copy the orange.reg file to the device, and tap on it in File Explorer to install it.
The Orange.tsk file goes in My Device/Windows and is the main Today Theme file selectable from Settings/Today.
The orange.bmp file can only be installed as part of a ROM manipulation, but is here for completeness!

Superb! Thanks again.

I have the feeling that this today screen slow down the device... just a feeling tho ...

Orange.reg
NeilM said:
As promised, here is an English version.
The DIL_APP folder must go under Application Data, so copy it there first, then copy the orange.reg file to the device, and tap on it in File Explorer to install it.
The Orange.tsk file goes in My Device/Windows and is the main Today Theme file selectable from Settings/Today.
The orange.bmp file can only be installed as part of a ROM manipulation, but is here for completeness!
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When I copy the orange.reg file and click on it, i get told that i should open the application associated with it and run it from there.
Could anyone help please?
Steve

I've installed resco explorer which does the job...
I don't know if an other free application can do it.

Super Sheep said:
I've installed resco explorer which does the job...
I don't know if an other free application can do it.
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Worked a treat thanks m8
Steve

Works great on a P3300 ,and doesn't seem to slow down the device much.

hp6915
Can i use this on my HP 6915 ?

Can I have some screenshoot?

Guys , this is an Orange Today plugin , which can I reinstall to an 3600 ?
I installed a new WM6 ROM , and I want to have it back.
How can I do this?
Many Thanks

Programs in ROM - vs. installing CAB's

I hope this is not too noob'ish a question:
What is the advantage of
1. installing (most of) your programs in a ROM,
vs.
2 having a rather clean/small ROM, and installing (a lot of) CABS afterwards?
I know 1. is a bit easier.
But is there any difference in performance?

I would say that you can't install anything into the ROM
That's why they use the ROM to fill it with the "cookers" special needs

The Advantage of Rom Installed Software:
You don't have to manually install it after a Hard Reset of Flash. Enough said on that, it saves you some time.
The Disadvantages of Rom Installed Software:
Uses Rom Memory for the original copy of files and Storage memory for anything that must be moved as part of initial setup. So anything that can't simply stay in Windows folder is duplicated elsewhere. For example if you prefer to have your programs in folders under the Program Files Folder then a program that uses 1mb will use 1mb of Rom memory and then when it is copied (remember you can't really delete Rom Files) it will use 1mb of Storage Memory also for a total of 2mb of used memory.
Can't uninstall original version when an upgraded version is avaliable. Sure the Rom file can be marked as deleted so they aren't listed in File Explorer anymore but they are rom files so you don't free-up any space.
More files in your Windows Folder. While the affect this has on our devices isn't 100% clear we do know that it slows opening the windows folder and I believe that it does cause a general slowdown in the device's overall functioning. This is why I prefer to have programs installed to their own folders.
The Advantages of Manually Installed Software:
Saves Rom Memory which increases Storage Memory. Basically since you have everything in Storage Memory you aren't paying extra for anything as nothing took any Rom Memory.
Can uninstall original version when an upgraded version is avaliable. Yes, since everything was installed into Storage Memory you can actually deleted the files to upgrade thus saving Memory.
Fewer files in your Windows Folder. While the affect this has on our devices isn't 100% clear we do know that it speeds-up opening the windows folder and I believe that it does affect the device's overall functioning. This is why I prefer to have programs installed to their own folders.
The Disadvantage of Manually Installed Software:
You have to manually install it after a Hard Reset of Flash. Enough said on that, it costs you some time. UC Compliant Roms can overcome this.

Well, as some cooks report: there seems to be an extra advantage of installing into ROM: everything seems to work a little smoother and faster. Don't know how or why exactly but has to do something with the after-installing process which makes the device less stabile.
Experiments have shown that of you take a full ROM vs. a lite ROM with the extra's from the full ROM installed afterwards, the full ROM is faster and more stabile.
Kyphur: I believe the second red and green titles are wrong? (I believe yoe mean Cab Installed Software?)

One of the reason that loading windows up with files slows everything down is because the are all paged & cached, depending on the settings. Once the device catches up, it's not as noticable.
Storage card Files cannot be paged like the cooked in files. That's why some programs will add .exe & .dll resources to \windows even though themajority of the files are indeed installed to the SD card.

GSLEON3 said:
Storage card Files cannot be paged like the cooked in files. That's why some programs will add .exe & .dll resources to \windows even though themajority of the files are indeed installed to the SD card.
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I don't install to my storage card anymore. Why would I do that when I start out with over 160mb of free Storage memory?

kyphur said:
I don't install to my storage card anymore. Why would I do that when I start out with over 160mb of free Storage memory?
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No, I don't either. But also with installing on the device there seems to be some (speed)difference in ROM installing and CAB-installing.

I'm with Kyphur on this one. The less I have in the ROM, the better because software is constantly changing, being upgraded, etc. Also, I find a lot of times my needs vary and I don't require so much "stuff" on my ROMs, so w/ the XDA-Live approach, I have the freedom to only install what I need. I guess it's a matter of preference really. Sure there are technical differences, both they are overcome either way, so it just comes down to what you like better.

pietrucci said:
Experiments have shown that of you take a full ROM vs. a lite ROM with the extra's from the full ROM installed afterwards, the full ROM is faster and more stabile.
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Ok ... thanks!
- Do you by any chance have a link to such a benchmark?
- Does that also go for ROMs you cook yourself (with Alex' Kitchen)?

How to actually mark as deleted files in ROM?
Hello, this is an interesting thread, and I also hope you guys know more on this, since you're explaining the concept (and I also searched for a solution, but sorry, didn't find, I might have not used the proper keywords for searching):
kyphur said:
Sure the Rom file can be marked as deleted so they aren't listed in File Explorer anymore but they are rom files so you don't free-up any space.
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So I flashed Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19716 UC RTM (but which ROM it is, doesn't really matter) as my question is related to "deleting" (or at least marking as deleted) ROM files. My problem is, I want to delete \Windows\Long Send.lnk because I don't like the Comm Manager show up when holding the green Send key during a call, while I'm expecting the phone to go into speakerphone mode like used from many other phones (even my Sagem cordless at home behaves this way). The folks in this ROM's thread suggested to delete that shortcut file (which is what I think they know right if they hadn't omitted the fact that the file is in ROM), but none of the in ROM or read-only attributes can be changed with Total Commander, so I can't "delete" it. Now I understand it's supposed to be just marked as deleted as it is "in ROM", so it is supposed to survive a hard reset, but how can I mark it deleted for the time being (next ROM upgrade for example, or hard-reset)?.

pedefede said:
Ok ... thanks!
- Do you by any chance have a link to such a benchmark?
- Does that also go for ROMs you cook yourself (with Alex' Kitchen)?
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No I don't have a benchmark of this. But then again: the current benchmarks (SPB and VS Benchmark) aren't that reliable.
I remember one cook from the Hermes device (maybe it was Pandora) made a ultra-lite version with an option to autorun everything afterwards with cabs.
This ROM wasn't as fast and snappy as the original full ROM. I think he quitted developing the ROM further.
Don't know if it's always true that everything's worse installing with cabs, it was just something a remembered from the past.
(by the way: I also install a lot from cabs...)

ChaOConnor said:
I'm with Kyphur on this one. The less I have in the ROM, the better because software is constantly changing, being upgraded, etc. Also, I find a lot of times my needs vary and I don't require so much "stuff" on my ROMs, so w/ the XDA-Live approach, I have the freedom to only install what I need. I guess it's a matter of preference really. Sure there are technical differences, both they are overcome either way, so it just comes down to what you like better.
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the ROMs change too, and not slower than the softwares

calvinzhang said:
the ROMs change too, and not slower than the softwares
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But flashing every week a new ROM is not for everyone. The possibility to flash once in a while is cool and good enough for lots of people, but doesn't have to become the main occupation

Zoolooc said:
But flashing every week a new ROM is not for everyone. The possibility to flash once in a while is cool and good enough for lots of people, but doesn't have to become the main occupation
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That's what "UC" is for! Auto Install all of your apps. Just remember to keep the cab files updated.

For me, one of the biggest advantage of full rom is I save a lot of time in doing backup since the files in the rom already.
Another advantage of full rom is they don't need to store any files under \Windows\AppMgr since they can't be uninstall anyway.
To overcome the bad effects of full rom. I tend to consider the following when putting programs in my full rom.
1. File can be run under \Windows
2. Programs that don't change that often, or doesn't need the latest version.

[Q] some .exe that could be removed from most himalaya rom's ?

i have found some .exe in most himalaya rom's "\Windows" folder that seem too be not needed so they could be deleted from future kitchens and stuff.
anyway here they are with screenshots..
1.sms_alert_fix.exe-pretty obvious.
2.SimLock.exe-i think something to do with unlocking sims (eventhough i've never used it).
3.cgacutil.exe-it shows you what version of NetFrameWork you are running (not sure if it gets installed as defult when NetFrameWork is installed.
4.hwhelp.exe-seems to be left from the keyboard option of character recognizer.
5.wrlsmgr.exe-maybe a part of the himalaya wireless driver.
can these be removed or deleted safely?
any ideas?

advanced15 said:
i have found some .exe in most himalaya rom's "\Windows" folder that seem too be not needed so they could be deleted from future kitchens and stuff.
anyway here they are with screenshots..
1.sms_alert_fix.exe-pretty obvious.
2.SimLock.exe-i think something to do with unlocking sims (eventhough i've never used it).
3.cgacutil.exe-it shows you what version of NetFrameWork you are running (not sure if it gets installed as defult when NetFrameWork is installed.
4.hwhelp.exe-seems to be left from the keyboard option of character recognizer.
5.wrlsmgr.exe-maybe a part of the himalaya wireless driver.
can these be removed or deleted safely?
any ideas?
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SMS_Alert_Fix will revive your phone when you will get a sms.
Simlock is really weird.
cgacutil is funking needed.
hwhelp is not needed but I don't want to know what will happen when deleted
wrlsmgr is needed for people who have SDIO Wifi card which himalaya support.

thats it then SimLock.exe is getting deleted and i will see what happens!

Here is what I removed to get free sectors in My WM6.1. The only way to learn effectively is: trial and error. Next try to read and understand the registry. It's all in there.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/xonmumuhkmy/Removed.rar

muckelmaus said:
Here is what I removed to get free sectors in My WM6.1. The only way to learn effectively is: trial and error. Next try to read and understand the registry. It's all in there.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/xonmumuhkmy/Removed.rar
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msim is keyboard right?
wisplite is totally unneeded, you can delete it but don't forget to delete registry entries in shell

also i know these can be deleted bcuz they are to do with error reporting and feedback-
DwXfer.dll
dw.exe
ceipui.exe
and also this-
BackPack.dll
hey muckelmaus these are needed for keyboard-
msim.dll
msim.96.dll
this for the 4 dots you have to tap when you first start up a new rom-
welcome.exe
and this is one of your splash screens-
welcomehead.96.png
and this is used for the search device for file function-
shfind.exe
otherwise i cannot see any problem with deleteing the rest of them...

i have also found this on a other part of xdadev-
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Hd.dll
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Aosaxst0.dll
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Mencfilt.dll
Here Hd.dll and Aosaxst0.dll are used for M$ debug. Like some times on pc the apps close itself, and windows asks you to send the details to M$ (example. error number : 893647). We ( users) don’t know what it means, only the developer in M$ know. But I never saw these files report anything to us. SO!!! We don’t need them! they are trash!!
Now Mencfilt.dll is for storage card encrypt. If you don’t use it, you can delete it as well. Have you had this experience where after flashing a new Rom every thing in storage card can’t show any more!!!! but its still use the space in the card. Yes it's because of this file only.
**NOTE: There are some device in which removing these files causes system issues so be careful. But only a few devices

advanced15 said:
also i know these can be deleted bcuz they are to do with error reporting and feedback-
DwXfer.dll
dw.exe
ceipui.exe
and also this-
BackPack.dll
hey muckelmaus these are needed for keyboard-
msim.dll
msim.96.dll
this for the 4 dots you have to tap when you first start up a new rom-
welcome.exe
and this is one of your splash screens-
welcomehead.96.png
and this is used for the search device for file function-
shfind.exe
otherwise i cannot see any problem with deleteing the rest of them...
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As I used a german 'qwertz' keyboard and a smaller splash screen, these files are just overwritten in my rom. These are backups.
I skip the Touchscreen alignment at first bootup (it doesn't work anymore after changing initflashfiles.dat)
Did you ever try to use * as a joker with the search program? Totally useless, so it is overwritten by a better app, renamed to: shfind.exe.

muckelmaus said:
As I used a german 'qwertz' keyboard and a smaller splash screen, these files are just overwritten in my rom. These are backups.
I skip the Touchscreen alignment at first bootup (it doesn't work anymore after changing initflashfiles.dat)
Did you ever try to use * as a joker with the search program? Totally useless, so it is overwritten by a better app, renamed to: shfind.exe.
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You did something wrong if touchscreen alignment does not work after rewriting initflashfiles.

aeroflyluby said:
You did something wrong if touchscreen alignment does not work after rewriting initflashfiles.
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It didn't bother, everything worked 'till I deleted some files in startmenue and rearanged the programs. But noone told me that he missed the feature. Approximately 300 users over all. Even if some of them only tested. For me it was OK, and I'm still running it from the very first day, without any need of a new hard reset 'till now.

muckelmaus, why do you have a smaller startup screen?

I reduced the size of the files to get some kB/sectors free, as my rom is full of third party apps.

muckelmaus said:
I reduced the size of the files to get some kB/sectors free, as my rom is full of third party apps.
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As I remember you can put JPG file as welcomehead
there is 2 solutions:
Save as jpg file and then just rename into .png
Save as jpg and change registry entry in redist dpi 96
by the way:
look at this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Splash Screen]
"MSBitmap"="\\windows\\welcomehead.96.png"
"MSTimeout"=dword:7530 ; 30000 milliseconds
"CarrierBitmap"="\\windows\\welcomehead.96.png"
"CarrierTimeout"=dword:7530 ; 30000 milliseconds
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maybe we could have 2 splash screens and change their duration on screen
So, when combined with bootloader 2 splashes (as I post tutorial to change it easly) we can have 4 splashes.
Good for doing PC boot images as I did before hima died my work in attachment
(I know that hima does not have AMD Althon but it seems good)

simlock.exe
simlock.exe is all ok too delete...
no problems deleting in AK6.

advanced15 said:
simlock.exe is all ok too delete...
no problems deleting in AK6.
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hwhelp.exe - is ok to delete as well
done in AK6 ,no problems !