is FROYO a big jump from ECLAIR+OCLF - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have been very happy with my Eclair firmware on the Captivate ... especially since I installed OCLF.
The only problem is the stupid imprecise GPS. Yes, I have the hack that changes the server to google etc. etc. etc ... it still is not accurate.
Before the jump in need to get some clarity ...
- is the FROYO upgrade going to fix the GPS problem
- is FROYO faster than ECLAIR + OCLF
- will FROYO allow wifi tether (I currently use barnacle on eclair to provide wifi access to my iPAD). Does AT&T charge for the tether ?

A No to all of your questions.
No, froyo will not fix your GPS problem.
No, froyo is not faster than eclair + OCLF. You'll have to do another lag fix on froyo as well.
No froyo will not allow wifi tether natively. You have to make changes for it to work.

the big benifits of 2.2 are FLASH video and "voice search by google" aka voice text input. FING sucks at names from your contacts BUT FING ROCKS!!! @ inputting text into messages and email. blows swype out of the water!
if anything install a custom rom, they greatly IMPROVE GPS not fix, improve
2.2 anything YES is better than 2.1 even stock (minus 3e recovery but that too can be fixed easy)
custom roms support wifi tethering

The lag fix on the market is utterly worthless.
Sent from my Captivate

MikeyMike01 said:
The lag fix on the market is utterly worthless.
Sent from my Captivate
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Well what do you know. something we agree on. The OCLF is pretty pointless now.

It depends on whether your talking about custom roms or not.
The custom roms all seem to do something for the gps, some more than others, but your pretty much assured it will be better.
But if your strictly talking froyo from samsung, then no.

If you get a Custom Froyo ROM, it's a resounding yes to all of your questions. I have near perfect GPS, my phone dances around any other one I've seen, and my tethering works perfectly.

asrrin29 said:
If you get a Custom Froyo ROM, it's a resounding yes to all of your questions. I have near perfect GPS, my phone dances around any other one I've seen, and my tethering works perfectly.
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Thanks for the info. Which custom ROM do you have on the Captivate ?

vulcan195 said:
Thanks for the info. Which custom ROM do you have on the Captivate ?
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I personally use Perception, an old ROM from DG, but it's been discontinued. I'm just a stubborn old fart that doesn't want to upgrade something that is working just fine the way it is. Pretty much any of the ROMS will give you the features I mentioned, but each is themed in it's unique way. I like Perception because there was little theming done to it.

Oddly for me, GPS WAS fixed when I updated to Froyo...

My 2.2 upgrade fixed my GPS and my phone is snappier. I use Launcher Pro instead of TW and I noticed it felt quicker and more responsive. The flash support is a bonus as well.
If you don't need to worry about your phone and have the time - a custom ROM could be a good way to go.
I happen to be a person who relies on my phone every day for work. I don't have the time to experiment with custom ROMs or can I risk having something not work correctly. I stick with stock for that reason or else I would be flashing a custom ROM.

ive flashed almost every single custom ROM up in here and for my captivate andromeda and firefly have been the only two ROMs that improved GPS, stock eclair and froyo i couldnt even get a fix or see a single satellite, with those 2 custom ROMs i get a fix within 15 seconds even in cloudy weather. ive only been an android user for 2 weeks and custom ROMs are they way to go for this phone. better improvement in every which way over stock

Previously, I was on stock jh7 with oclf and was not very.happy: always rebooting the phone, looking at what processes were running, was considering installing a custom rom, etc... Then I installed official froyo and it's like I have a new.phone. No noticeable lag, the phone is now really fun to use instead of.constantly embarrassingly slow.
Gps is still terrible.
Edit: I am on official froyo with no lag fix

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Well what do you know. something we agree on. The OCLF is pretty pointless now.
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Can you elucidate at all? A coworker of mine was running the same custom Froyo on Captivate, as on my Captivate. He used OCLF and saw his benchmark #s doubled. I tried it and it can't complete (and backs out).
What have ye to say about OCLF?

OCLF was file conversion from RFS (Samsung) to EXT2. The latest file system lagfix is EXT4 which helps Froyo with lag issues and even some GB ROMS.
RFS is now getting mature enough that it's can run fairly fast and smooth without a lagfix (aka file conversion from RFS to EXT4).
At one small time OCLF was relevant. It is no longer.
If you insist on sticking with 2.2 look up Serendipity 6.4 or Firefly 3.0 in the development section and install one. You'll forget all about OCLF.

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[Q] 1st Time ROMing. Input Needed

I realize this is probably a very frequently brought up topic, but given that I have certain specific requirements, I hope it merits not being redundant.
I'm fed up waiting on Samsung to issue out 2.2 and so I have finally decided to try ROMing it. The help that I need is determining which of 3 ROMs: Darky 7.7, Cognition 9.5/9.9, and Perception 10(.1). These all seem to be top mentioned ROMs for the Captivate. I watched the comparison video between 9.5 and 10 and am more inclined to go with 10.
However, each ROM has easily around 100 pages minimum and I've lost 2 hours of sleep trying to just keep up with Perception 10 as it is trying to find out if it will still allow me to do the things I require.
What I need is the following:
GPS Working (I believe Cognition 9.9 states GPS does not work)
Bluetooth Voice Dial/Control (I have a BlueAnt T1 which I love, but I have been told that only 2.2 allows full voice control via BT - If I am wrong, please correct me)
Froyo's Wifi Hotspotting feature would also be nice.
Other than the notice about GPS issue on Cog 9.9, I couldn't find anything to clearly confirm both the GPS and BT requirements. I know Per 10 is running 2.2.1, so that is something else that appeals to me.
As always, I greatly appreciate any help I can get from XDA. As long as the winter weather doesn't take out the power, I look forward to joining the Froyo ranks later today.
EDIT: I should also throw on that minimal risk of battery problems and/or signal/call quality issues would be great as well. And that a working (or fixable) Barcode Scanner is needed. My wallet lives off of Google Shopper these days.
Well I haven't personally used Perception or Cognition. However, I am running Darky's 8.0 with hardcore's Speedmod k12i kernel, JL3 modem and DXJPA wifi, and I haven't had any issues with GPS, mobile hotspot, signal/call quality or Barcode Scanner. I also get about 3-4 days of battery life on a single charge with light usage. Your experience may differ, but I thought I'd offer up mine in case it helps.
Johnston212 said:
I realize this is probably a very frequently brought up topic, but given that I have certain specific requirements, I hope it merits not being redundant.
I'm fed up waiting on Samsung to issue out 2.2 and so I have finally decided to try ROMing it. The help that I need is determining which of 3 ROMs: Darky 7.7, Cognition 9.5/9.9, and Perception 10(.1). These all seem to be top mentioned ROMs for the Captivate. I watched the comparison video between 9.5 and 10 and am more inclined to go with 10.
However, each ROM has easily around 100 pages minimum and I've lost 2 hours of sleep trying to just keep up with Perception 10 as it is trying to find out if it will still allow me to do the things I require.
What I need is the following:
GPS Working (I believe Cognition 9.9 states GPS does not work)
Bluetooth Voice Dial/Control (I have a BlueAnt T1 which I love, but I have been told that only 2.2 allows full voice control via BT - If I am wrong, please correct me)
Froyo's Wifi Hotspotting feature would also be nice.
Other than the notice about GPS issue on Cog 9.9, I couldn't find anything to clearly confirm both the GPS and BT requirements. I know Per 10 is running 2.2.1, so that is something else that appeals to me.
As always, I greatly appreciate any help I can get from XDA. As long as the winter weather doesn't take out the power, I look forward to joining the Froyo ranks later today.
EDIT: I should also throw on that minimal risk of battery problems and/or signal/call quality issues would be great as well. And that a working (or fixable) Barcode Scanner is needed. My wallet lives off of Google Shopper these days.
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I'm really not that familiar with Dark's ROM, but Perception and Cognition I think I know enough to tell you a bit about them. Perception is built off of the i9000 and Cognition is built from the Captivate. only problem I've had with Perception was that the i9000 modems don't seem to be fully compatible on the U.S. Captivate and you will intermittently lose signal for short periods of time, sometimes to the point where you will have to reboot. Both builds are by DesignGears and I really do like his designs. Cognition is most likely more stable and easier for a first time flasher. Again, this is said with ignorance of Darky's ROM. You can find change logs and problems within the first few posts on the first pages of official ROM threads. There you can find out all you need. Just PM the dev if you have questions and I'm sure they will be able to answer you.
Jmurph3 said:
I'm really not that familiar with Dark's ROM, but Perception and Cognition I think I know enough to tell you a bit about them. Perception is built off of the i9000 and Cognition is built from the Captivate. only problem I've had with Perception was that the i9000 modems don't seem to be fully compatible on the U.S. Captivate and you will intermittently lose signal for short periods of time, sometimes to the point where you will have to reboot. Both builds are by DesignGears and I really do like his designs. Cognition is most likely more stable and easier for a first time flasher. Again, this is said with ignorance of Darky's ROM. You can find change logs and problems within the first few posts on the first pages of official ROM threads. There you can find out all you need. Just PM the dev if you have questions and I'm sure they will be able to answer you.
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I would agree with this, and I'd just like to add that I'm using Cognition 2.3b8 (not sure where you're getting 9.8/9.9 from) and it's very stable and easy for a first-time flasher.
One queston for Jmurph, with the Perception rom, would it be as simple as flashing a new modem (TLJL3 for example) which works well on AT&T?
One of the things about Darky's ROM that scared me away was that people seemed to have to mix and match kernels and modems to get one they liked. Designgears' rom seemed to work really well for most people out of the box, as it were. And I found that it's fantastic. Yesterday I decided to flash the TLJL3 modem (but I just read on the changelog that Designgears included it in 2.3b8 so it's a moot point). I've been having good battery life though I just yesterday bump charged it and deleted the battery stats. I expect battery life to get even better. I don't use Bluetooth for more than handsfree so I can't speak to that, however, I would assume that the rom would do anything that Froyo would be able to do.
In fact, on Saturday, I was able to use my phone as a wifi hotspot without any problems.
Ryan Trevisol said:
I would agree with this, and I'd just like to add that I'm using Cognition 2.3b8 (not sure where you're getting 9.8/9.9 from) and it's very stable and easy for a first-time flasher.
One queston for Jmurph, with the Perception rom, would it be as simple as flashing a new modem (TLJL3 for example) which works well on AT&T?
One of the things about Darky's ROM that scared me away was that people seemed to have to mix and match kernels and modems to get one they liked. Designgears' rom seemed to work really well for most people out of the box, as it were. And I found that it's fantastic. Yesterday I decided to flash the TLJL3 modem (but I just read on the changelog that Designgears included it in 2.3b8 so it's a moot point). I've been having good battery life though I just yesterday bump charged it and deleted the battery stats. I expect battery life to get even better. I don't use Bluetooth for more than handsfree so I can't speak to that, however, I would assume that the rom would do anything that Froyo would be able to do.
In fact, on Saturday, I was able to use my phone as a wifi hotspot without any problems.
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You mix and match kernels and modems on any ROM to get one you like. Modem is your connection, some might run faster than others, and lots of things can influence that. Location, available bands at your location, etc etc. Kernels are just masses of hardware drivers, so obviously different kernels fit different peoples needs. Some people like the overclock thing, some people don't. Some people want a kernel optomized for speed, some want a kernel optomized for stability or battery life. No matter what ROM you go with, some Modems might work better for you than others, and the kernel is all about preference.
Thanks everyone. I realize my mistake with the GPS part. I was accidentally referring to the Percepion 9.5 (build 99) post that said that GPS was disabled. It was late and I had come back from a jaunt in a lovely snow storm, so my brain was kinda blahhhed.
So now I'm just down to Cog vs Per. From what I skimmed last night, Perception is designed for the Captivate. In fact some guy is starting a ROM review for the Captivate with MobileTechVideos and was comparing 9.5 and 10.
I know 10 has the latest swype keyboard installed, so that is another point in its favor. Any other suggestions? Inputs?

SGS/Doc's Rom Questions

Just cooked and installed a rom on my Telstra GT-I9000T handset and I couldn't be happier. The speed has more than doubled and I am free from Telstra refusing to release updates and their bloatware. Any way I have some Questions.
I'v installed Doc's 9.6.6 Rom and it's going quite well.
1. The GPS has improved but I think it could still be better. I see there is an APP out there called GPS Aids and I was wondering if it would improve my GPS functionality or would it not work with a custom rom like mine?
Are there any methods to make my GPS better? I feel that this is the phone's achilles heal.
2. I now have the option under settings > About Phone > Software Update. I guess Samsung or Google will make Gingerbread avaliable for the SGS soon. When it is will i be upgraded OTA with this software update feature?
3. Any word on when gingerbread is coming out and if/when it will be avaliable in the RomKitchen? I know it's in Beta testing at the moment. Can't be too long before it starts to get released around the globe.
1. You could try a newer rom/modem as they definitely help out with GPS. Currently on JQ1 I get a lock within 5 secs accurate to about 10m. You could also try Faster Fix from the market
2. Upgrade will happen when Samsung releases it.
3. Supposed to be coming out March but no one really knows.
gbatman said:
Just cooked and installed a rom on my Telstra GT-I9000T handset and I couldn't be happier. The speed has more than doubled and I am free from Telstra refusing to release updates and their bloatware. Any way I have some Questions.
I'v installed Doc's 9.6.6 Rom and it's going quite well.
1. The GPS has improved but I think it could still be better. I see there is an APP out there called GPS Aids and I was wondering if it would improve my GPS functionality or would it not work with a custom rom like mine?
Are there any methods to make my GPS better? I feel that this is the phone's achilles heal.
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GPS Aids do works on Doc's ROM. What it does is speed up satellite discovery. So in theory you'll see satellites faster, but this doesn't necessarily means that it will be locked faster.
On my SGS it takes an average of 20s to lock using LBSTestMode. Some navigation apps takes longer though (not sure why). Also as utsmaster18 said, fasterfix helps too.
Latest DOC's ROM is 9.9.5 (based on JS8) and I've read (can't remember what thread) that ZSJPG modem is very good. I'm using JS8 + JPY CSC + ZSJPG modem, with Damian Kernel. I have gps aids and faster fix and I do love the GPS performance.
2. I now have the option under settings > About Phone > Software Update. I guess Samsung or Google will make Gingerbread avaliable for the SGS soon. When it is will i be upgraded OTA with this software update feature?
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I don't think this function works at all. Even on my stock ROM this was useless. At least for me. I'd say you'll be best served by the XDA comunity.
3. Any word on when gingerbread is coming out and if/when it will be avaliable in the RomKitchen? I know it's in Beta testing at the moment. Can't be too long before it starts to get released around the globe.
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Rumor says it would be out this month. In fact there is a leaked beta ROM already out and many custom ROMS built on top of it. But an official *golden* ROM from Samsung, I think that even they (samsung developers) can't tell for sure.
This is my ROM:
XWJS5_Wipe-v9_6_6-23-29-22-04-03-rM9FJUquQU
I got the GPS working.
First I used an ap called GPS Status to reset my GPS data as Dialing *#*#1472365#*#* does not work for me.
After I cleared all my GPS data I used FasterFix to add the fix although I am not sure if FasterFix was necessary as maybe clearing the data was all I needed to do.
GPS is really good now though.
I also got the compas working in GPS Status. First time I have had a compas work on my phone.
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I don't think this function works at all. Even on my stock ROM this was useless. At least for me. I'd say you'll be best served by the XDA comunity.
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I have a mate with an old Nexus phone and he recieves firmware updates OTA. I never had this with my stock firmware (2.1-Update1) but Telstra probably removed it.
It will be interesting to see if I am able to update this way.
I may be wrong, but I guess Nexus firmware comes from Google itself, while we have to wait for samsung to release it. That's why we probably won't get updates through that menu.
At least on stock froyo (JPY) that menu hasn't worked for me. Not even to tell that I was running the most updated firmware. All I got was errors connecting to the server, or some other words with the same meaning
I'm pretty sure you're right and nexus firmware comes straight from Google.
GPS Aids and Doc's Rom works well together and gave me GPS lock in 2 minutes or so.
That's with JPE modem.
Now using Darky's 9.4, JQ1 modem without GPS Aids and getting locked in under 30 seconds with Google Maps and Navigation.
But I'm not knocking ROM creators around here, GPS Aids and Doc Rom FTW!
And yes, Nexus handsets get OTA directly from Google, no mobile operators in the damn way.
I might try GPS AIDS.
The clearing the data method with GPS Status then using Fast fix has made my GPS super accurate but it takes forever to get a fix and actually start working.
Just another question. Not really related to the OP but my provider has released 2.2 and there is a new modem JP9. Is it worth flashing this to my phone. I am running JL2 and it seems fine. Has any one compared JL2 to JP9?

[Q] What version custom ROMs?

I have finally got a succesful ROM flashed but ended up with less than I expected. I went from ATT 2.2 to Firefly 3. However I thought I would get bluetooth voice dialing as well as enableing the tethering option???
I see now that FF3 is based on 2.2. What ROM would I need to install to get the above mentioned features, or did I screw up flashing and should have them but don't?
TIA, Jeff
Well you could flash a rom that has tethering built in or even get an app such as barnacle wifi tether though I'm against tethering myself. And if you wanted to flash a rom with better than 2.2 you would have to flash a 2.3 rom though they are not very easy to flash and you will probably "soft brick" your phone at least once in the process (I did several times ) I would suggest waiting until it's easier or more stable though I'm already on CM7 which is 2.3.3 you will have to be willing to have to deal with bugs to be on 2.3.3 though most aren't major.
FF3
Forgot to mention that I'm very happy with the result even if my expectations were unrealistic. This is 100% better than the stock ATT 2.2.
Tethering isn't really a dealbreaker I can fall back to PDANet. I'd really like to have bluetooth voice dial though but could always fall back to Vlingo as well.
Settings, wireless and network, tethering.
On firefly 3.0, just tested it...

[Q] Verizon Galaxy Tab/Flashing a ROM

Hi, i have a Verizon Galaxy tab. I was interested in flashing a new ROM. Does anyone know if the tab has a Sim card? and which is a good ROM? Has anyone successfully flashed a ROM where everything worked? I use my tab in the car and need 3g, gps etc. But im itching to flash a kernel and a new ROM. Anyone have any advise? looks like most of them are for GSM and not CDMA. Please Help!
The Verizon (and Sprint) SGT does not have a SIM card as they are CDMA devices.
There is a small handful of ROMs available however at first it was pain getting started flashing the CDMA SGTs I've messed with.
Personally, I like oldmacnut's ROMs.
However, I'm currently running KhasMek's kernel and the stock ROM (just until oldmacnut finishes his GB port) - Also, running LauncherPro to hide that awful touchwiz interface and Dolphin Browser HD (for better browsing) - This has made the SGT loads better for me.
My advise to anyone looking to flash ROMs (even as unlikely as it is) if you're note 100% okay with the possibility of a brick, then don't flash. Personally, I've never encountered a bad flash I couldn't recover, but your milage may vary.
Thanks Addictive,
I am also waiting for stable GB roms for my VZ Tab. But I need to flash a nice kernel and a ROM. Even though the rooted tab runs nice with some tweaks......such as launcher Pro. I never used Dolphin HD. Ive always used Miren Browser since its lightweight and real quick for me BUT i will def give Dolphin a try. I might follow your footsteps and flash KhasMek's kernel and wait for Gingy. Have you noticed any significant differences as far as performance with this kernel?
The kernel is a touch buggy, but for me the performance boost was worth it. Lagfix, ext4 conversion and over clock were too good to pass up.
Using SetCPU to bump up on demand to 1.4GHz helps a bit when I push the tab (google music streaming in the background, navigation running in the background, bluetooth paired to car for audio, a friend browsing the web .... simultaneously) - Doing that stock made it angry, audio would skip and UI would lag, now its nearly perfect.
Also, I use Refresh for Android to reboot the tab automatically at 4:30 AM everyday. This alone has helped with stability/performance. Recently though, it has stopped automatically rebooting the SGT. I got the app because I was too lazy to setup a cron job to do it for me heh.
Hmmm well I have the ext 4 conversion (using OCLF) and that definitely made it much snappier but mine is running stock as far as cpu goes. I haven't experimented with overclocking...not sure if I want to risk damaging mine. But it did spike my interest since I have the same setup and have a car mount for mine. So I stream music and goole map it along with other goodies (like trapster) and sometimes it stutters. Would be cool to see how much faster it would go. And yeah rebooting always helps lol so I might flash that kernel friday. Have you tried any other ones?
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Hello All,
Have just started using this forum and failed to introduce myself previously, my name is Jay; I am 27 from DC but in Afghanistan for a few more months (yea..sucks) new to rooting, flashing and all that but I have recent interest in it and it passes the time better than most thing we are "allowed" to do over here.
I just switched from a HTC Desire to a Galaxy Captivate
So far...I have unlocked it (via cellunlocker.net), upgraded to the leaked 2.3.4 Gingerbread, Rooted using the 10step method posted here, Installed Victory v1.5 Rom, tried flashing Talon kernel but bricked the phone and had to redo the above...
My question is to those more knowledgeable than myself with all this...what is the best Kernel, Rom, Modem...whatever else...that I can have on this device to keep it running smoothly, fast and reliable?
I do all the basic call, txt, surf...play games, watch movies, use apps, etc...not a developer but want my phone to be tweaked as much as possible so it does not seem outdated or lag with new things being added.
My current settings are:
Baseband I897UCKH3
Firmware 2.3.4
Kernel 2.6.35.7-I897UCKH3-CL461307
Build VictoryRom_v1.5
There is nothing wrong with the phone...as I said above, if I could do more to it and have an overall better device and pass some time here I would enjoy that. Victory seems great but all I notice myself is the battery indicator has changed and...thats about it (a lot likely goes unnoticed by me)
I do have one problem with the phone that maybe a different modem can fix? (I hope) for some reason my GPRS will not work out here with my browser...I can use the market and apps that connect to the internet but my browser seems to be WiFi only. I have changed the settings from usa to europe since I am using a sim from over here but no luck...and added the gprs settings to the phone which allowed apps internet access but zero for browser..any ideas?
I really thank anyone who takes the time to reply...I am sure teaching a new person in this is annoying just as showing the new guy here how to clean his weapon...lol...but we were all new at everything once and I thank you all for reading my novel
-Jay
Jay,
Thank you so much for your service and contribution to our freedom, I know it must be hard to be away from the life you once knew. Hang in there It's not for nothing. Hopefully someone will be able to help with your GPRS settings. I am running the same setup on my captivate only I have used Boogs kernel to install clockwork recovery as well. You can flash boogs kernel over the kernel you have now and that will let you flash roms or speedmods later. If I were you I'd keep my eyes peeled for GPRS settings in your area and wait for EXT or speedmod kernel for the 2.3.4 They are saying RFS is pretty quick to begin with though. It may be hard to beat but im sure one of these great Devs will figure out a way to make 2.3.4 smokin fast. Once again thanks for doing what you do. Keep your head down Soldier!
Steve
If you like using your mobile providers Net, you might give I9000 ports a try. They allow for better Upload speeds but you will sacrifice Audience chip support (noise suppression processor that only I897 have). Also since I9000 source usually drop first they have all sorts of kernel mods like Voodoo sound, Voodoo color fix, BLN, init.d files tweaks like V6, among many more. Sadly I897 native roms always play catch up with I9000's.
Personally I prefer native rom, because they tend to run smoother for longer periods of time (I9000 tend to slow down over time on my phone, but thats just my experience) and I don't use ATT's network a whole lot (90% of the time I'm around a wifi connection) and I like the audience chip, it is a phone before anything else.
Edit: Also there isn't a "best" rom, kernel or modem. Each rom has their own pros and cons, same as Kernels. And no 2 phones are the exact same so not all of them take well to all the tweaks, mods, etc. And most of the time i9000 kernels wont work with i897 roms, at least in GB.

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