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I know there a lots of them on market. But I dont have the nerve to test them all. Can somebody recommend an app that sends me the phone number of the inserted sim card per SMS.
Would be cool if it also could send me the GPS location in a pre configured interval per SMS.
Thx...
i found one that is working perfectly for me...
App name ist "lost phone"
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.gadgetprojects.lostphone
Not exactly what you're looking for, but Mobile Defense is a great, free anti-theft app with GPS tracking and remote lock.
I use WaveSecure. It has GPS tracking, online backup, remote wipe, remote lock, sms alerts and (importantly) uninstall protection.
I got a free subscription a couple of months back but I think you have to pay now.
Wouldn't a wipe via recovery console erase everything though?
monkey804 said:
Wouldn't a wipe via recovery console erase everything though?
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Yea, you can always wipe from recovery but that isn't well known outside forums like this. It's unlikely a thief would figure that out before you've tracked him down and sent the rozzers round.
I found Mobile Security but I guess the app dev is no native english speaker (like me). His description for the "Security Code" feature is hard to read and understand. Any chance someone uses this app and can explain it to me?
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Not exactly what you're looking for, but Mobile Defense is a great, free anti-theft app with GPS tracking and remote lock.
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I would like to receive the phone number. My GPS is turned off most of the time. A lock feature is nice indeed but i guess the phone lands in the next dumpster when its unusable.
goldenarmZ said:
I use WaveSecure. It has GPS tracking, online backup, remote wipe, remote lock, sms alerts and (importantly) uninstall protection.
I got a free subscription a couple of months back but I think you have to pay now.
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I regulary buy paid apps but 20$ per year is too much i think.
monkey804 said:
Wouldn't a wipe via recovery console erase everything though?
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jepp, but i hope the thief just inserts his sim first
smurf said:
I regulary buy paid apps but 20$ per year is too much i think.
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Ouch. I didn't realise they were charging that much.
I'm pretty pleased I got the free subscription offer now..
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I would like to receive the phone number. My GPS is turned off most of the time. A lock feature is nice indeed but i guess the phone lands in the next dumpster when its unusable.
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Did you even check out the www.mobiledefense.com? I will report the current SIM information, including phone number. If you are rooted and install the app in system/app, it can also turn on the GPS itself, telling you the location of the phone.
https://www.mobiledefense.com/tour
el_smurfo said:
Did you even check out the www.mobiledefense.com? I will report the current SIM information, including phone number. If you are rooted and install the app in system/app, it can also turn on the GPS itself, telling you the location of the phone.
https://www.mobiledefense.com/tour
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jepp, I did. The thing is I forgot to mention: its only available to Users in the United States
Besides Mobile Defense, there is Lookout. Although I don't think it has as much features though. I haven't kept up with it so I'm not sure. I don't think they give you the option to wipe your phone, but I'm positive they can do it if you ask them to.
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jepp, I did. The thing is I forgot to mention: its only available to Users in the United States
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Have you asked them about when they're planning to launch outside the United States? They might not be too far away.
What about viable alternatives for users looking for free protection outside the US?
Has anyone tried Anti DT (http://www.antidroidtheft.com/)? I've installed it but never used it (Thank God).
Features that are advertised on the website?
Email alerts when someone changes SIM cards
Online location tracking of your android device using GPS or Cell Towers (Any Web Browser)
Spy Camera: View images taken from your phone's camera.
i found one that is working perfectly for me...
App name ist "lost phone"
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.gadgetprojects.lostphone
I also found "Lost Phone" one of the easyest. AND working, coz I have tried some other, inserted other SIM and nothing happening.. TRY before you buy and get your phone stolen
Too bad there isn't a wipe included. So to complete my anti-theft I added "Remote Wipe". Didn't test this one yet, need to backup my 16gb card first, don't wanna loose all that
If you have sensitive material from work on your phone you need something like this. Those two together put my heart at rest and bring me a "safer" phone.
I will give you a list as my G1 was stolen, I know these apps worked becuase it wokred for me but, the f*#^in" dumb... asssss I was saying... the cops never helped me go retrieve the phone. GPS number, cell number, and G1 box with IMEI number provided.
Enough with bad memories.... The List is :
Sim Checker will let you know of a new sim inserted in the phone as well as, the number and gps coordinates/number/location(address)
Wavesecure lets you add friends so they'll also know when your phone is stolen with features such as, Remote Sd card format, Remote lock, Phones will lock with an unknown sim, gps tracking, and backup of contacts, sms, call log, and now has uninstall protection.
GPS Tracker by Instamapper is a great way to track your phone in real time.
There are so many choices... I'd get them all!
Check out this one
This one identifies itself by IMEI, for each device a own APK is created.
You can control your mobile with sms commands, the itself is invisible, no app icon, nothing, and it can be changed to a system app.
Great
(I am NOT the dev, and I don't know him )
Does anyone know of any good apps to securely store some notes or memos? I've never lost or had a phone stolen (knock on wood) but I keep some stuff on my phone like SS#'s and bank account info and just want to make sure it's safe.
Good Way
miztaken1312 said:
Does anyone know of any good apps to securely store some notes or memos? I've never lost or had a phone stolen (knock on wood) but I keep some stuff on my phone like SS#'s and bank account info and just want to make sure it's safe.
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I don't really use this kind of thing but my suggestion is just to encrypt a pdf or microsoft word document and store it on the phone with a reader. Easiest way I guess.
I am trying out several: B-Folders, BioWallet, eWallet. I am using eWallet on Windows 7 platform and I sync it to my phone but it's read-only on Android right now. It's still my current favorite however. BioWallet has a lot of potential if they get moving on development and B-Folders is pretty decent also.
Beyond that, I depend on Lookout for virus scanning and (if ever needed) remote wipe.
I hope to find a lockscreen for Android that permits a "Lost or stolen" ID message like Windows Mobile does.
I like AK notepad and OI safe. They are both free in the market.
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I use an app called App Protector (in market) to lock my photos and videos. It'll do it for memos and whatever other applications you want.
im a happy nexus 7 owner but im wondering how i can protect my nexus private data or even FB or TW from other people, in my phone i use avast so i can "delete" all data by sms, but i cant do this on my nexus, i was thinking use "pattern" or pin unlock screen, but its annoying doing this on every time i want unlock my screen, i was thinking on apps that put password on selected apps, but again maybe this could be annoying, and maybe someone with a little skill can use ADB or uninstall TB and re install and delete "data" from the app who its protecting (im rooted) so im wondering its other way to protect my nexus 7? i guess this are the best but im wondering if its other way that i didint know.
Thanks
Cerberus app
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Cerberus app
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+1 for Cerberus.
I use it on my nexus 7 and my att Samsung galaxy s ii. It can remotely wipe your device, lock it, track it via GPS even if you don't have GPS on, set off alarms, take pictures and video from the camera, and many other things. It is 110% worth it. I recommend it highly.
patriot720 said:
+1 for Cerberus.
I use it on my nexus 7 and my att Samsung galaxy s ii. It can remotely wipe your device, lock it, track it via GPS even if you don't have GPS on, set off alarms, take pictures and video from the camera, and many other things. It is 110% worth it. I recommend it highly.
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Any noticeable effects on performance and battery life?
Lookout App.
Cerberus is a life saver! When both my Galaxy Nexus and my wallet were stolen in a restaurant I could track my mobile using a friend's phone within 2 mins after noticing the theft. I directed the police to the shop based on Cerberus' tracking and eventually got both my mobile and my wallet back within 15 mins after the call.
The issue with tracking a tablet without 3G is that you will only see it once it's logged into a wireless network rather than on the go. You'd also need to activate a pin which could be deactivated at home by an app like Tasker.
I suggest you also use Avast to scan for malware and as second protection which could survive a factory reset but not a new rom.
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Yeah I'm testing thanks I will check seems kind of better than avast, not sure if this app will survive to factory reset, custom recovery should have password or something xD the bad it's nexus 7 doesn't had 3g u.u oh well thanks all
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zen kun said:
i was thinking use "pattern" or pin unlock screen, but its annoying doing this on every time i want unlock my screen
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Protection is sometimes not convenient, but if you don't have a code lock your device is wide open to whom ever picks it up.
Pattern or Pin Lock
When I am out, I use a pattern lock on all devices. If I am home for the weekend, I turn it off however it is turned back on before I leave the house.
Cerberus
I use this on my Nexus and it works good. You do need to have a WiFi connection which limits it greatly since I never allow my device to connect to a public WiFi... but with the lock out, 5 tries and the device locks.
Backups
While the data is fairly secure, losing the data and even perhaps more important the time and effort setting up the device in the first place, means that using a good backup and having that available OFF the device so that if it is lost/stolen/destroyed, I can simply re-root and then restore and have it back to where I was when the backup was made. I do full backups every Sun.. and other occasionally when I make big changes.
Two Factor Authentication
When Possible, use 2-Factor authentication. If you not using it, you should look into it.
Check out the app Android Lost on the play store.
It securely links with your gmail account and does not do any polling to servers so it saves your battery.
When you lose your phone it allows you to do many many things such as activate an alarm, track using gps or wifi, take a picture with the front or rear camera, wipe the phone or lock it and many more features. All remotely.
Best part is its free and has a minimal footprint on device.
Check it out!
Run L1ke H3LL said:
Check out the app Android Lost on the play store.
It securely links with your gmail account and does not do any polling to servers so it saves your battery.
When you lose your phone it allows you to do many many things such as activate an alarm, track using gps or wifi, take a picture with the front or rear camera, wipe the phone or lock it and many more features. All remotely.
Best part is its free and has a minimal footprint on device.
Check it out!
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The Nexus 7 is not a phone, so it doesn't by default it doesn't have SMS, it by itself has no 3G/4G communications. The only way you can talk to it is via WiFi.
I use Android Lost on all my phones... but since my phone uses the same same gmail account, it can't control the Nexus, hence the use of Cerberus.
is cerberus better than where's my droid?
krelvinaz said:
The Nexus 7 is not a phone, so it doesn't by default it doesn't have SMS, it by itself has no 3G/4G communications. The only way you can talk to it is via WiFi.
I use Android Lost on all my phones... but since my phone uses the same same gmail account, it can't control the Nexus, hence the use of Cerberus.
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I use my Nexus tethered to my phone so it uses WiFi. I suppose if I lost it would still connect to the WiFi networks in my area and I could locate it by those methods. My cable company provides public WiFi which is ubiquitous so 90% of the time if I'm not tethered I have data.
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hoponpop said:
is cerberus better than where's my droid?
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Much better.
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nyijedi said:
Any noticeable effects on performance and battery life?
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None at all.
If u really want to protect ur data, I suggest don't root the device and encrypt the entire tablet. Then set up a PIN to unlock. Security often means you have to give up some convenience at times but the reward is satisfying.
Also like some one already suggested use 2-factor auth for FB and make sure u deprovision the tablet account when u find it lost or stolen.
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I use seek droid for my phones, but purchased cerberus with my gift moolah and am happy with its performance and have also installed it on my Acer a500. The Developer is active with the community and has beta releases that fix some of the JB bugs.
So how secure is the Cerberus site? What's the dev's credentials in IT security? Is he just some dude with an app?
In signing up for this, you're putting the ability to remote-wipe/track/spy your online life into some dude's hands. You're paying him 3 bucks and hope he can keep it secure. Can he? In mitigating one risk (device theft), you're incurring a new risk of having your device remote wiped, or being spied upon, if the site gets hacked. Good trade-off?
With a one-time fee of $3, I don't see that much incentive for the dev to continuously maintain security, assuming he even has the expertise. It's his hobby, not his livelihood.
From a cursory inspection of the Cerberus site and its support forum, I don't see the word "security" or "2-factor authentication" anywhere.
Ditto SeekDroid or any similar app.
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So how secure is the Cerberus site? What's the dev's credentials in IT security? Is he just some dude with an app?
In signing up for this, you're putting the ability to remote-wipe/track/spy your online life into some dude's hands. You're paying him 3 bucks and hope he can keep it secure. Can he? In mitigating one risk (device theft), you're incurring a new risk of having your device remote wiped, or being spied upon, if the site gets hacked. Good trade-off?
With a one-time fee of $3, I don't see that much incentive for the dev to continuously maintain security, assuming he even has the expertise. It's his hobby, not his livelihood.
From a cursory inspection of the Cerberus site and its support forum, I don't see the word "security" or "2-factor authentication" anywhere.
Ditto SeekDroid or any similar app.
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Have to somewhat agree with the sentiment here.. that said, I'm presently using the Cerberus demo on my N7 and it appears quit good.... would prefer this to have been a mainstream vendor product ....
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Seek droid, and I think I only paid $.99
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They have some really good reviews on their web site. And from very qualified sources,check it out. I just installed Cerberus and tested out great.
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>They have some really good reviews on their web site. And from very qualified sources,check it out. I just installed Cerberus and tested out great.
Yes, very qualified. Hahah.
Here's a "review" maybe you should read. It's by Cerberus itself (emphasis added). Welcome to spyware.
https://www.cerberusapp.com/privacy.php
THE INFORMATION LSDROID COLLECTS
REGISTRATION INFORMATION: You provide to LSDroid certain personally-identifiable information (such as device ID number, wireless operator / operator, your name, email address, etc.) when choosing to subscribe to the LSDroid Services.
LOCATION INFORMATION: To provide the LSDroid Services, we derive location information from your wireless operator, certain third-party service providers, or directly from the mobile device that you used to register with the LSDroid Services. This location tracking of your mobile device may occur even when the LSDroid Services mobile application is not actively open and running, but your location is being securely transmitted and logged in accordance with your privacy and opt-in settings.
COOKIES, PERSISTENT FILE INFORMATION: When you use the LSDroid Services, we may send one or more cookies (small text files containing a string of alphanumeric characters) to your computer. LSDroid may use both session cookies and persistent cookies. A session cookie disappears after you close your browser. A persistent cookie remains after you close your web browser and may be used by us during your subsequent visits to the LSDroid Web site. Persistent cookies set by the LSDroid Web site can be removed. Please review your web browser "Help" file to learn the proper way to modify your cookie settings.
LOG FILE INFORMATION: When you use the LSDroid Services, our servers automatically record certain information about your usage from your mobile device and web browser. These server securely logs may include information such as a mobile device identification number and device identifier, web requests, Internet Protocol ("IP") address, browser type, browser language, referring / exit pages and URLs, platform type, number of clicks, domain names, landing pages, pages viewed and the order of those pages, features used in the LSDroid mobile application, the amount of time spent on particular web pages, the dates and times of your requests, and one or more cookies that may uniquely identify your browser.
I checked out various apps which can locate lost phone(after stolen).
All work on the premise of installing app remotely from google play, and then sending SMS to your phone etc.,
However, there are a few caveats(with all such apps, and others too). they work for brain dead thieves.
Professional thiefs will throw away your sim card, and then put in a new sim(prepaid sims freely available).
For security, the owner of phone will obviously change the gmail password, right?
So if thief factory resets and wipes data, and then logs on with a different google play account, can you still track it?
Is there any app which allows to do the same?
Casual thieves can be caught, but what if somebody does a full wipe?
I think google tracks phones using device ID. Is it possible to track phone through google, even if android account(google account) being used on the phone is different?
Need help please.
Prevention is better than the cure.
If the phone has been stolen without any tracking software installed, then the chances of recovering it are a lot smaller than if tracking software was installed before it was stolen.
The best thing you can do is call your carrier and ask them to block the IMEI, if they care about you they may also track it down... Or at least do some kind of deal to get you a new phone.
The best tracking app in my opinion is Avast! Its free too !
There is an anti theft feature, which requires root, But it will install as a system app so a factory reset wont remove it. You can do a whole range of things via the webpage, such as activating mobile data, Turning GPS on so you can track it, You can also make the phone scream and shout 'warning this device has been lost or stolen'
This is a useful feature as only you can disable it, You can also enter a message which will be displayed on screen for the theif to see!
You can remotely lock and wipe the device, so the theif cannot change gmail account.
Its does a whole lot more too!
azzledazzle said:
Prevention is better than the cure.
If the phone has been stolen without any tracking software installed, then the chances of recovering it are a lot smaller than if tracking software was installed before it was stolen.
The best thing you can do is call your carrier and ask them to block the IMEI, if they care about you they may also track it down... Or at least do some kind of deal to get you a new phone.
The best tracking app in my opinion is Avast! Its free too !
There is an anti theft feature, which requires root, But it will install as a system app so a factory reset wont remove it. You can do a whole range of things via the webpage, such as activating mobile data, Turning GPS on so you can track it, You can also make the phone scream and shout 'warning this device has been lost or stolen'
This is a useful feature as only you can disable it, You can also enter a message which will be displayed on screen for the theif to see!
You can remotely lock and wipe the device, so the theif cannot change gmail account.
Its does a whole lot more too!
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thanks
Will it work in the following scenario
1. thief Steals phone
2. Puts phone in custom recovery
3. Flashes a new ROM
4. Puts in a new SIM
5. Uses a different google account.
Google has IMEI number of devices used. So can google let me know which user has the phone after its been stolen, if I give them a copy of the police report or something.
Actually Samsung have a free tracking and after-theft service.
You can set it up on the phone and on the samsung website.
It works even if they use the phone on the moon after having it
flushed through a toilet....So why bother in using third party apps and services ??
http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39...-and-control-samsung-galaxy-devices-remotely/
This is an old 'howto'. The samsung dive also works for the Note.
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Will it work in the following scenario
1. thief Steals phone
2. Puts phone in custom recovery
3. Flashes a new ROM
4. Puts in a new SIM
5. Uses a different google account.
Google has IMEI number of devices used. So can google let me know which user has the phone after its been stolen, if I give them a copy of the police report or something.
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Google are a massive company, I doubt they will help 1 individual person, but its sure worth a try
as for the scenario, If the theif flashes a new ROM, it will overwrite /system so any previous system apps will be removed.
But, bear in mind, not everyone is an android freak like us most people wont know what recovery is, or how to flash a ROM, so this should give you enough time to track it down via the website.
For the freaks that do know what they're doing, Well I guess thats unfortunate, No security can withstand the knowledge we have, You will just have to hope they have a nice heart and will return it.
How about 'android lost' application?
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dsmas said:
How about 'android lost' application?
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I have changed my google password. So thief will probably use new market account. Now the question is, if phone comes online via a different market account, can I still control it?
lost my phone (galaxy S2) yesterday or it got stolen - i dont know excactly.
BUT the phone is still on, even 3G.
so is there any app which i could install through the market and track it?
plan b won't work because i have android 4.x
Lun4cy said:
lost my phone (galaxy S2) yesterday or it got stolen - i dont know excactly.
BUT the phone is still on, even 3G.
so is there any app which i could install through the market and track it?
plan b won't work because i have android 4.x
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Do you have stock tw rom on your s2 if yes then Log onto www.samsungdive.com from their you can control your device by loging into your samsung account.. Good luck :thumbup:
Ps: if you have a cm rom then use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidlost worked on my htc desire pretty good when i lost it in my college
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abhinav quietly brilliant said:
Do you have stock tw rom on your s2 if yes then Log onto www.samsungdive.com from their you can control your device by loging into your samsung account.. Good luck :thumbup:
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unfortunately not :/
got a costum rom and i think i removed all samsung apps.
Who needs phone location track and how to track phone location with this OX MobileSpy
tsk1979 said:
I checked out various apps which can locate lost phone(after stolen).
All work on the premise of installing app remotely from google play, and then sending SMS to your phone etc.,
However, there are a few caveats(with all such apps, and others too). they work for brain dead thieves.
Professional thiefs will throw away your sim card, and then put in a new sim(prepaid sims freely available).
For security, the owner of phone will obviously change the gmail password, right?
So if thief factory resets and wipes data, and then logs on with a different google play account, can you still track it?
Is there any app which allows to do the same?
Casual thieves can be caught, but what if somebody does a full wipe?
I think google tracks phones using device ID. Is it possible to track phone through google, even if android account(google account) being used on the phone is different?
Need help please.
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Company who distribute cell phones always want to learn whether their employees are in rational use of vehicle and they go to the place where they should go, Cell Phone GPS Tracker gives you detailed information you want to learn with GPS location.
Location-specific information can be tracked especially for person who get lost when travelling unfamiliar places, or elder parents who are in amnesia may forget where home is, children get lost and so on. Then this OX Mobile Spy mobile phone location track function urgently needed.
OX mobile spy is both a mobile phone information backup software and a spy-tracking software, Which all depends on how to use it and how to review of it. By the using of it's backup function, you can easily backup contacts, messages, calls to your own email. By the using of it's spy-tracking software, you can use ox mobile spy's GPS location trace to find lost persons, use software installed in cellphone, messages, contacts and calls information to monitor your kid's suspicious behaviour.
Download: http://download.cnet.com/OX-Mobile-Spy/3000-2162_4-75909600.html
Exact GPS location with latitude and longitude, I like this program.
Make sure you put 1* reviews on your Banking apps or all apps that need updating to support face unlock, hopefully it will help speed up the development and support of face unlock on the pixel 4. I am really missing fingerprint unlock on my apps!
Demolition49 said:
Make sure you put 1* reviews on your Banking apps or all apps that need updating to support face unlock, hopefully it will help speed up the development and support of face unlock on the pixel 4. I am really missing fingerprint unlock on my apps!
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Why? I just contacted my credit union asking for them to add support. Maybe larger national banks and stuff should have been aware and had support ready but smaller, more local institutions might just need to know that it's a thing on Android now.
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In the Play Store, you can reach out to contact each app's development team via email. I've written to Chase, Bank of America, Mint, Credit Karma, and the other apps I use. Some developers are aware that they need to update, others aren't. Here are some of the responses I've received.
My original email (to each app):
Please update the Android app to support the biometric API so that I can use the secure face unlock on my Pixel 4! Thank you!
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Bank of America:
Thank you for your feedback and we apologize for the inconvenience. We are working to update to the latest biometric authentication for the Pixel 4 and expect to have a supporting app shortly. For now, sign-in to the app using your online ID and password. Please look out for an app update soon.
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Chase:
We'll be happy to review your request to update the
Android App.
Ivan, please note that the Chase Mobile App will work on
any Android smart phone or tablet running Android
operating system 5.0 (Lollipop) or higher. The minimum
operating system is 5.0 or higher. If your mobile phone
does not have the minimum requirement, the Chase Mobile
app will not be compatible.
We want our mobile app users to have the best experience
possible, so we regularly test chase.com using the most
current versions of operating systems. Since some mobile
app functionality may not work well on older operating
systems, we ask that you perform these updates. We
recommend you update your operating system and application
to the newest versions available. If your device isn't set
up to receive updates automatically, you can get the We
recommend you update your operating system and application
to the newest versions available.
We appreciate your business and thank you for choosing
Chase.
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Credit Karma:
To determine if your Touch ID or Face ID function is turned on or off, go into your settings by clicking the icon in the top right corner of the app. The directions are the same whether you’re using Touch ID or Face ID.
If Touch or Face ID is turned on you will see a green circle with a white check mark.
If it’s turned off, simply click the empty circle and you’ll be prompted with a message stating the fingerprints or face registered on your phone can be used to access your Credit Karma account. Click “OK” to this prompt and you will be asked to enter your PIN to confirm this change.
Touch or Face ID is now turned on and you will be allowed to use this function to access the Credit Karma app moving forward.
Please note that if you log out of your account, the next time you open the app you’ll be prompted to enter your email address and password.
Thanks so much,
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I've been sending further follow-ups to the ones who clearly don't understand what we are asking.
The more people who contact them, the more they'll understand that their apps are the problem by not using the current API.
I think Chase already stated that they were going to have an update before the end of the year. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
Robinhood works!
btonetbone said:
In the Play Store, you can reach out to contact each app's development team via email. I've written to Chase, Bank of America, Mint, Credit Karma, and the other apps I use. Some developers are aware that they need to update, others aren't. Here are some of the responses I've received.
My original email (to each app):
Bank of America:
Chase:
Credit Karma:
I've been sending further follow-ups to the ones who clearly don't understand what we are asking.
The more people who contact them, the more they'll understand that their apps are the problem by not using the current API.
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Very nice work, I have left reviews and also contacted all my Banks via email. Hopefully it speeds up the process.
Throwing up a bunch of one-star reviews won't help, and all it serves to do is make the rater (you) look petty and childish. I'll send an email to my institutions, like a grownup, and go from there.
Getting in contact directly works best, via the play store will get you to the android app devs. I usually go through Twitter and you get a spokesperson who wouldn't know an apk from an adb and will give a stock response of soon™.
Remind them that the old biometric APIs are deprecated and that they should update to current versioning. Should anything happen they don't want to be the story of the bank that wasn't able to keep up.
Honestly I'm not missing it that much for my bank that much because I use LastPass which autofills it quickly. I do miss it for Outlook though because I have to do a pin.
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So Far E-Trade has been updated to the Pixels face Unlock... I sent an email via the app store also to a credit union hoping they will update their app. I'm hoping within the next 2 weeks to a month that all major banks will update...
How secure if this anyway? I mean, my banking account has a password. I enter that password in my banking app to log into my account. In the future I will use my facial scan to log into my banking app.
Does that mean my banking account will have two password (1x password + 1x facial scan) oder will my password be stored somewhere in the app or on android and simply be passed on the my facial scan is verified?
Both do not sound very secure to me.
If you don't feel it's secure then just don't use the app.. simple. I trust that the banks know the risks and have mitigated them. After all they are the ones on the hook if there's fraud.
bobby janow said:
If you don't feel it's secure then just don't use the app.. simple. I trust that the banks know the risks and have mitigated them. After all they are the ones on the hook if there's fraud.
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Not really the informative answer I was looking for.
I wouldn't blindly trust a bank app or any of the other countless apps that would use my facial scan.
What happens if your facial scan gets stolen / leaked. Everyone with that information will for ever be able to access your data. And you can't even change your access code like you would be able to with a password.
And it seems like you also have no idea where your facial scan is being saved, and how it is secured / locked down. Maybe it is just a plain file on your phone's storage? You don't seem to know.
Why no simply write down all your passwords in a .txt file and save it on your sdcard? That would alteast have the advantage that you could change your password at some point.
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Not really the informative answer I was looking for.
I wouldn't blindly trust a bank app or any of the other countless apps that would use my facial scan.
What happens if your facial scan gets stolen / leaked. Everyone with that information will for ever be able to access your data. And you can't even change your access code like you would be able to with a password.
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Isn't the face unlock for that device only? It's not like someone can install your bank app on their phone, somehow use your face unlock information, and spoof you on that device. Also there's still 2 step verification, at least with my bank, so the new app would still need to get the verification code. If anything, it's easier to do with your password because that's something that can be typed in and then somehow get the verification code text.
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Utini said:
Not really the informative answer I was looking for.
I wouldn't blindly trust a bank app or any of the other countless apps that would use my facial scan.
What happens if your facial scan gets stolen / leaked. Everyone with that information will for ever be able to access your data. And you can't even change your access code like you would be able to with a password.
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I'm not sure of the question you are asking. It seemed rhetorical to me basically commenting on how you don't think fingerprint, facial or password entry is secure on your app. I don't think any of it is stored in the cloud but nonetheless it's probably not as secure as walking into your bank and transacting with a teller. Even websites probably aren't as secure as you wish they were. So what exactly are you asking that you expect a reply to? You can perhaps check with your bank as to what your liability would be if your account got hacked.
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Isn't the face unlock for that device only? It's not like someone can install your bank app on their phone, somehow use your face unlock information, and spoof you on that device. Also there's still 2 step verification, at least with my bank, so the new app would still need to get the verification code. If anything, it's easier to do with your password because that's something that can be typed in and then somehow get the verification code text.
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Oh is it? That makes it defeniately more secure. But then I would still like to know how it is ensured that my facial scan only works with my specific mobile device and not with any other mobile device.
Yep for banking there is still 2 step verficiation. Good point. But I was actually thinking more about e.g. KeePass.
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I'm not sure of the question you are asking. It seemed rhetorical to me basically commenting on how you don't think fingerprint, facial or password entry is secure on your app. I don't think any of it is stored in the cloud but nonetheless it's probably not as secure as walking into your bank and transacting with a teller. Even websites probably aren't as secure as you wish they were. So what exactly are you asking that you expect a reply to? You can perhaps check with your bank as to what your liability would be if your account got hacked.
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Maybe I didn't explain my question good enough. I will try again:
Currently I would unlock e.g. my KeePass Database with a password.
In the future I would use my facial scan for that.
I wonder at what point my facial scan will access my password of the KeePass Database, because it somehow has to know my password in order to unlock KeePass?
And in that case my password suddenly isn't saved only in my head anymore but also within android or another app (because Face Unlock has to somehow know it?).
Or will my KeePass database get a second "password" which is my facial scan data?
In that case I want to make sure that my facial scan is very secure and can't be stolen. Because if it turns up in smth like "haveibeenpwnd.com" everyone will forever be able to access all my files with my leaked facial scan which I cannot even change to something different anymore.
Utini said:
Maybe I didn't explain my question good enough. I will try again:
Currently I would unlock e.g. my KeePass Database with a password.
In the future I would use my facial scan for that.
I wonder at what point my facial scan will access my password of the KeePass Database, because it somehow has to know my password in order to unlock KeePass?
And in that case my password suddenly isn't saved only in my head anymore but also within android or another app (because Face Unlock has to somehow know it?).
Or will my KeePass database get a second "password" which is my facial scan data?
In that case I want to make sure that my facial scan is very secure and can't be stolen. Because if it turns up in smth like "haveibeenpwnd.com" everyone will forever be able to access all my files with my leaked facial scan which I cannot even change to something different anymore.
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I used LastPass and I think it's not different then when I died the fingerprint option for it. There's a master password for the account and biometric login is, again, just for the individual device. And again, there's 2 step verification at least with LastPass, for whenever you set up.
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EeZeEpEe said:
I used LastPass and I think it's not different then when I died the fingerprint option for it. There's a master password for the account and biometric login is, again, just for the individual device. And again, there's 2 step verification at least with LastPass, for whenever you set up.
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Sounds interesting and secure. Now I am interested in how it is ensured that my fingerprint / facial scan will only work with my specific mobile device and that the stolen data from my device can't be used from another device
Utini said:
Oh is it? That makes it defeniately more secure. But then I would still like to know how it is ensured that my facial scan only works with my specific mobile device and not with any other mobile device.
Yep for banking there is still 2 step verficiation. Good point. But I was actually thinking more about e.g. KeePass.
Maybe I didn't explain my question good enough. I will try again:
Currently I would unlock e.g. my KeePass Database with a password.
In the future I would use my facial scan for that.
I wonder at what point my facial scan will access my password of the KeePass Database, because it somehow has to know my password in order to unlock KeePass?
And in that case my password suddenly isn't saved only in my head anymore but also within android or another app (because Face Unlock has to somehow know it?).
Or will my KeePass database get a second "password" which is my facial scan data?
In that case I want to make sure that my facial scan is very secure and can't be stolen. Because if it turns up in smth like "haveibeenpwnd.com" everyone will forever be able to access all my files with my leaked facial scan which I cannot even change to something different anymore.
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Oh I see now. This really has more to do with your password manager than the bank. Unfortunately, I don't use a PM even though I suppose I should. Everyone says it's pretty secure. Since I don't really know what I'm talking about at this point I'll give it a shot anyway. lol
I don't think the facial scan or the fingerprint scan is saved anywhere other than your device. But I do use fingerprint (or did) scans on my banking app. If I change my password on the banking site my fingerprint scan will no longer work on the app. I would first have to change my password on the app and then reregister my fingerprint when the new password is entered. Can we compare it to the face scan at this point? I mean you can't change your fingerprints either right? Before I go on, am I reading your concerns correctly?
Utini said:
Sounds interesting and secure. Now I am interested in how it is ensured that my fingerprint / facial scan will only work with my specific mobile device and that the stolen data from my device can't be used from another device
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https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/9517039?hl=en
Maybe this confirms it?View attachment 4860867
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