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First of all Hello everyone, I'm Luke and I'm pretty new to the windows mobile scene.
I've wanted a windows mobile phone for a few years now however price tags were not so appealing to me, but now I've purchased my first windows phone and it should be arriving tomorrow or within the next few days. It also seems that I've bought one at a good time as I'm happy to see a lot of development going on for 6.1/6.5 which is awesome - I like playing around with gadgets more than actually using them.
But here is the catch, whilst I've posted this in the HTC TD2 section here, the phone I've bought isn't actually a TD2. At least not an official one. It's one of the Chinese models found on eBay. I don't want a moral debate going on here - it was a bargain and it's my first step into using a Windows phone which I'm looking forward to for a decent price. It looks like a TD2 and the seller has claimed it is 'OEM Produce' however I don't believe him really.
What I wanted to ask was how will I go about flashing, updating, installing ROM's and the such on this phone? Will it be more than enough to follow instructions for a standard TD2? I hope someone here who understands hardware device and such will be able to clear that up for me.
The phone is using the same processor as the original TD2, and has the same resolution etc. Not sure if it has the same amount of ROM/RAM however it's being shipped with WM 6.1 so it has enough I presume. Are there any other hardware differences that will effect the ROM's I can use? Can I even use the same ROM's you guys are using? I don't care about the lower quality camera and less important things like that.
Thanks for any advice (sorry it was a bit long winded)
Please scroll down to see my most recent post! Thanks!
Thats is a very tricky question you are asking here.
First of all, nothing is certain or guaranteed of what you might receive there. After all, the product you receive will be a counterfeit phone, a fake trying to mock a real TD2. And as with any fake products you get the same quality issues. How do you know for sure that it has the same processor?? Just because they write it there? The same can apply to the RAM, ROM, Display etc.! It is in my opinion HIGHLY unlikely that the phone you will receive, will have anything in common (technology-wise) with the real TD2. The TD2 combines a lot of recent technology like that hd screen, cam and ram. What you will find underneath of yours might be a mash-up of older HTC phones like the Diamond or even older..who knows!? You can continue this uncertainty with the Windows that phone is running...it will be some homecooked release that is made to work with the components the phone features. As they will be different to TD2 as we have clarified earlier, the ROMs available here will most certainly not work ideally with yours....and i would be highly surprised to see a forum that will be dedicated to a fake TD2 lolz. Anyways, I think you get my point...I dont really see why you would ship yourself a chinese mock-up to start with a Windows Mobile phone...I dont, really. There are so many nice cheap hq HTC phones out there that still support 6.5 to-date. I have been using a HTC Excalibur (S620/621/Dash) for like 4 years and kept buying the same phone since then because i LOVE it. The quality is superb and it runs Windows Mobile 6.5 like a charm. You can pickup a brandnew unlocked one for $100 at the bay. Just a week ago i decided to upgrade and bought a new TD2...not here yet but same as you i am very excited Im sorry that i drifted off into a moral debate by the way
If you really want to embark on trying to update your phone you will have to analyze the rom closely to see what phone's ROM it is actually running. This will help you to find the according forum in here.
Good luck
I concur with vivid22, The internals of your phone will certainly be different to those of the original HTC build and as such you may have many unforseen troubles if you do flash the rom.
But if you decide to proceed with a rom flash i would be very interested to hear of your results.
You may also be interested in using some benchmark software and comparing how your phone performs compared to ours, maybe you can discover if the CPU is indeed the correct performance. Its all quite interesting.
Oh and welcome to the forums
Thanks for your responses guys! Very informative.
While I'm not going to respond to the most obvious statements like it being a counterfeit and it sucking etc in much detail because of course you are right! but I knew this when I bought it. The price is the real difference here and I don't mind if I can't flash it but I too am interested if it will actually work .
I'm still waiting for the phone to arrive and yes you both are right it has a very high chance that it is using different internals and I expect this, however the seller seems to state its using very similar hardware.
I will be more than happy to mess around with it, I guess I will dump the ROM first if I can then try installing some 6.5 etc - no problem trying I guess. I must say I've seen some clones from merimobiles.com (or something) with TouchFlo and I think even WinMo 6.5 but then again obtaining those ROM's will be a quest in itself. Not sure if mine is being shipped with TouchFlo, it has it in the screen shots on the listening but that really counts for nothing .
I have seen a few threads on these devices and their flash capability but not any with any definitive results so hopefully I can get the ball rolling. When I actually receive my product I will be able to tell if it is actually using the same processor, etc.
I believe you will find that Hard SPL will not flash to unlock your device.
Many here have tried with the same knock-offs.
Unlock in which way do you mean?
Network unlock? (assuming not)
Maybe worth noting: The guy who is selling these flashes the phone with the version of WinMo (language-wise) that the buyer asks for before shipping out. Meaning they can be flashed, however with what ROM's and what method I've no idea. Might ask him?
Ok if I'm going to poke around this I have two questions to ask that will help me determine things about the phone:
(They may seem very dumb but I just need to clarify)
1. Is there a way to find out the Hard SPL version without installing a new one? Like the current one it has.
2. Is it possible to get into the Bootloader no matter what Hard SPL version you have?
Lukeff7 said:
Unlock in which way do you mean?
Network unlock? (assuming not)
Maybe worth noting: The guy who is selling these flashes the phone with the version of WinMo (language-wise) that the buyer asks for before shipping out. Meaning they can be flashed, however with what ROM's and what method I've no idea. Might ask him?
Ok if I'm going to poke around this I have two questions to ask that will help me determine things about the phone:
(They may seem very dumb but I just need to clarify)
1. Is there a way to find out the Hard SPL version without installing a new one? Like the current one it has.
2. Is it possible to get into the Bootloader no matter what Hard SPL version you have?
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No, SPL unlocks the OS, not the SIM.
Bootloader mode is how you determine your current SPL.
Okay. So I should be able to (hopefully) get into bootloader and find the SPL it currently has.
Well I guess thats it until I actually recieve the phone, cheers guys I'll post how I get on for the people who are interested.
It will be very interesting to hear about it. hope you get what you ordered?
God luck
Well, I'm back, for anyone who is interested!
Phone finally came, snow over here in the UK slowed it down haha!
So, the phone is very good for what I paid, and very nice.
I'd like to go about flashing it though, as it's currently running 6.1 with SPB Mobile Shell. SPB is very nice, but I really like the look of Touch Flo.
Now while cosmetically the phone looks pretty close to the TD2, it has a few things like no front camera (don't really care) and the zoom bar also seems to do absolutely nothing. The phone runs as smooth as it should. It has no g-sensor as far as I can tell, shame but doesn't really matter.
All of this sounds like it has no chance, I think it even has less RAM than it was meant to but I'm not sure... But here is why I am still curious about trying:
Windows Mobile is reporting that it is using the 528Mhz MSM7200A processor.
That is what I believe the real TD2 uses, correct me if I am wrong.
If this means it is using the same chipset or what-have you as the TD2, I don't know. This is why I need help.
Really, what I am asking, is what kind of things can I look at in the phone to tell what I could possibly flash it with?
Do you think the HardSPL utility you all use will work with it? Is there even any way to tell, or should I just try anyway? And could that break the phone beyond repair? Is there a way to find out the real specs of this phone, because it may have been modified so that it read that processor name?
What do you guys think. I'm willing to try all sorts, I just don't want to brick it with no way of getting it back that's why I am just asking for opinions before I do it anyway.
Thanks
You will brick your phone for sure if you try a rom for Diamond2, search this forum for chinese ROM (I saw it somewhere on another thread in Topaz section), but watch out that you will have a clean windows without customizations includind TF3D.
I sold my HD2 when i bought an HD7.
Last night I installed WP7 on my friend's HD2, and it was working just as smooth as the one on my HD7.
I even hacked the windows live system, (using ceesheim's guide) and it was working fine, so technically, it was fully functional, just like the one on HD7. (Did i mention that even the cam-corder was recording 720p videos?)
I was feeling kinda sad about this thing. I could've just kept my HD2, but i didnt.
HD7 is better for me in some areas: Display is way better, softkeys wont get spoiled by heavy usage (while hard-keys on HD2 do), and the phone just looks more stylish than HD2.
But lets not forget that HD2 has its own advantages as well (being capable of running multiple OS, having removable SD-card, etc), and now with the WP7 released, I'd like to hear your opinions about all this.
Do you think the purchase of HD7 was worthy, or it would be better if we could just keep/buy a HD2 instead so we could use multiple platforms, including WP7?
Please share your opinion. Thanks
I still have both, but I see no reason to use WP7 on my HD2.
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I still have both, but I see no reason to use WP7 on my HD2. It's a featureless OS. You can't do so many things. Not only did MS launch a featureless OS, and then had the gall to shove any updates that would bring features to it till the end of the year, but they even removed features from it in the 2 months it has been out. I used the folder making function in the email apps....made 3 folders for various emails like eBay, Redbox receipts, banking institution correspondence and so forth rather than deleting them...which would delete them off the server...or keeping them on the main screen. Now MS even removes that useful function. What little features WP7 had, MS just removes them till the system is useless.
Not only will I not allow WP7 to stink up my HD2, but as soon as Android is developed for the HD7, WP7 is going to leave my HD7 so fast the water will splash out of the toilet.
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I do agree with you about WP7 lacking many key features; Its a known fact. But i don't want to touch the ever-ongoing war of "which os is better" in this thread.
What I'm trying to say is, WP7 was the reason behind the HD7's success; People wouldn't buy it otherwise, since its the same phone as the HD2. Now I'm asking, will people still buy this device when they can have WP7 on HD2?
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Still have a bad feeling about Microsoft banning Live accounts that use this on their HD2
Shu. said:
I do agree with you about WP7 lacking many key features; Its a known fact. But i don't want to touch the ever-ongoing war of "which os is better" in this thread.
What I'm trying to say is, WP7 was the reason behind the HD7's success; People wouldn't buy it otherwise, since its the same phone as the HD2. Now I'm asking, will people still buy this device when they can have WP7 on HD2?
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Yes, mainly becuase the majority of people who want the phone either a) can't be bothered with the hastle of potentially bricking their HD2 to put WP7 on it, and b) they won't even know it's possible (after all, not every phone owner visits these forums).
I think most people get these types of phones on Contract anyway, so more reason why people will still go for HD7 if they want WP7.
thanks for the answers.
Something interesting that i noticed is the amount of new threads created in the windows phone 7 forum, in the last 24-48 hours; which is after the launch of WP7 on HD2.
Did anyone else noticed this increase of wp7 users during the last two days?
Although many of them are just asking the same basic questions over and over again; but i think its a good sign to see more activities going on in the windows phone section.
I don't mind at all. I love my HD7 and my HD2. Since I picked up my HD7 I was able to pass my HD2 with NAND Android down to my wife. Now she loves her new phone, I have a great new toy (and I do enjoy WP7), and my HD2 is still close by in case I need to play with it.
New products will always be released and old products will always find upgrades through XDA. It how the world goes.
What I really looking forward to are the OTA updates that WP7 will be getting that I would otherwise have to wait for on my HD2 Superphone.
Mr bother has the HD7 and I have the HD2. Quite honestly I don't really like WP7 AT ALL and would never even think of installing it on my HD2. I'll just stick to Android.
I order the HD7 the day wm7 was released for the hd2 not knowing that it was going to be released that night, my hd7 will arrive tomorrow and I have had the weekend using wp7 on the hd2. I really like wp7, I like that it is like no other operating system, very plain but everything seems to be quickly available. The lack, lack, lack of apps is a massive issue as I have an iPhone which does anything and everything so wp7 looks very primitive but I prefer using wp7, there just something about the clean lines and ease of use. Who knows after a week I may just be over it. I will most likely return the hd7 for the fact that it has half the memory of the hd2 being that I will order a 32gb card for it. I know I can do the same for the hd7 but I wouldn't like to be voiding the warranty on such a new and expensive phone.
I will let you know how I feel once I have had a play with the hd7.
shayne the kid said:
Mr bother has the HD7 and I have the HD2. Quite honestly I don't really like WP7 AT ALL and would never even think of installing it on my HD2. I'll just stick to Android.
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Why are you posting here? Go away.
Calm down....Just him opinion, I was expecting to have WP7 on my HD2, but I could not wait....now I have new HD7 and shoot HD2 out my hand...so dont think about that !!!
ok the only bonus with the HD7 is the screen is better colour. The HD7 arrived today and I have already packed it back in the box to return, there is no way I can justify the HD7 being $600 better than the HD2 just because it looks alittle better and has a clearer screen.
Just my opinion.
Hold up, when you put the OS7 on HD2, is it IDENTICAL to the OS running on HD7? or do you still have all the great features of HD2 with a face lift?
For example, do you still have your favorite ppl access tab?
Select all in emails and Sms?
Ability to view multiple email address from one window?
Tithering?
u know important things that HD7 lacks?
or once u upgrade u have an HD7 stuck in a HD2 body?
I will be receiving my HTC HD& today or tomorrow and am very excited. A new mobile OS is just what we need, all the great things that have ben done with previous OS's can now be attempted with mobile win 7. We have so great mind minds out there and I believe in time HD7 will be just as great as the HD2. After being hacked, and modded
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Hold up, when you put the OS7 on HD2, is it IDENTICAL to the OS running on HD7? or do you still have all the great features of HD2 with a face lift?
For example, do you still have your favorite ppl access tab?
Select all in emails and Sms?
Ability to view multiple email address from one window?
Tithering?
u know important things that HD7 lacks?
or once u upgrade u have an HD7 stuck in a HD2 body?
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You are referring to the same operating system, so what you see on the HD7 is exactly what you will see on the HD2 with WP7.
ecyoral said:
mobile win 7
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I've heard of
"Windows Mobile" (with version numbers of 6.5.x, 6.5, 6.1, and lower)
"Windows Phone 7"
"Windows 7"
So what is "mobile win 7" -- some new OS from Microsoft?
From a youtube video I saw, there are some quirks on HD2 with WP7.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZVtyetvVIQ
-Pinch to zoom doesn't work as well, like in the browser or in gallary app
-There are occasional instances where the phone stops responding for a few seconds
for full list of problems, go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914485
i doubt these problems will be permanent; once a development community forms, I am sure people will be cooking roms and issuing fixes. just a matter of time.
I've had none of those problems thus far. I also like being able to run Android from the sd card. That is why I bought the HD2 a few months back because I knew I would be able to have both wp7 and android on the same phone.
Right ok... so the "known" problems the Devs are aware of due to the port are not occuring for you.
seal said:
ok the only bonus with the HD7 is the screen is better colour. The HD7 arrived today and I have already packed it back in the box to return, there is no way I can justify the HD7 being $600 better than the HD2 just because it looks alittle better and has a clearer screen.
Just my opinion.
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I just don't get why people who frequent these forums with a HD2 are complaining about getting a HD7. What were you expecting? Of course it's not going to be worth buying a HD7. Why would you waste your money upgrading when you can (for now) run WP7 (almost) fine on the HD2? Come on i thought us XDA members were at least a little bit brighter the the Apple community....
as titile,
if HD7 can runing wm6.5, this will be fast wm system, it's will be a good news!
The HD7 is almost identical hardware to the HTC HD2 which comes stock with WinMo 6.5. It would probably run slower on the HD7 if someone took the time to port it. But really, with the HD2 in existence and readily available on places like eBay and Craigslist (for under $200 I might add), why would you want this?
Not trying to say that someone won't attempt it, but it is probably very close to the bottom of their list. Windows Phone 7 was designed to run smoothly on the Snapdragon processor. That's why our phones fly. M$ strict control over specs has definitely paid off. Windows Mobile 6.5 would run the exact same on our phones as it does on the HD2.
I have just upgraded to the HD7 from the diamond 2. Even thou WP7 is faster. I would rather stick to WM6.5 if anyone can give me a link to a HD2 rom for the HD7 I would be very happy. I know the HD2 has 2 more face buttons, but all we need is [back] [windows] and [home/red] to work. either that or I’m going to have to see if someone wants to swap a brand new HD7 for a well looked after HD2 lol still using my diamond 2 at the mo cos HTC Sense rocks! Anyone can help I would much appreciate it. Thanks
djstujones said:
I have just upgraded to the HD7 from the diamond 2. Even thou WP7 is faster. I would rather stick to WM6.5 if anyone can give me a link to a HD2 rom for the HD7 I would be very happy. I know the HD2 has 2 more face buttons, but all we need is [back] [windows] and [home/red] to work. either that or I’m going to have to see if someone wants to swap a brand new HD7 for a well looked after HD2 lol still using my diamond 2 at the mo cos HTC Sense rocks! Anyone can help I would much appreciate it. Thanks
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Hi,
Here you have all you need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912416
I can swap
Regards
Ech....lol at op.
Sent from my HD7
PanNet said:
Hi,
Here you have all you need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912416
I can swap
Regards
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Thanks, I do appreciate people making the effort. But it’s the other way round I need it. I want to run the HD7 on Windows Mobile 6.5, don’t get me wrong. If win phone 7 becomes more customisable and if they make it compatible PDA OS I’ll move over. There’s all ready talk of there being 2 ver’s of phone. Phone 7 and phone 7 Classic (aka Windows Mobile 7). But till then I Want to stay Win Mobile 6.5 not Win Phone 7
Thank for taking the time to read
Bring back PDA-Phones! These Smart Phones Still Haven't caught up yet! LOL
djstujones said:
Thanks, I do appreciate people making the effort. But it’s the other way round I need it. I want to run the HD7 on Windows Mobile 6.5, don’t get me wrong. If win phone 7 becomes more customisable and if they make it compatible PDA OS I’ll move over. There’s all ready talk of there being 2 ver’s of phone. Phone 7 and phone 7 Classic (aka Windows Mobile 7). But till then I Want to stay Win Mobile 6.5 not Win Phone 7
Thank for taking the time to read
Bring back PDA-Phones! These Smart Phones Still Haven't caught up yet! LOL
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Okay it's simple, BUY A WM 6.5 phone.
@djstujones why the hell would you buy a Wp7 Device and downgrade to a lower OS?!?! Why didn't you just get a cheaper bloody phone that ran wm6.5?!?! this forum is already full of spam where people keep on asking "Can i get wm6.5 on h7? duuuuurp". SEARCH THE FORUM and READ UP A PHONE BEFORE YOU BUY IT.
simplez
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@djstujones why the hell would you buy a Wp7 Device and downgrade to a lower OS?!?! Why didn't you just get a cheaper bloody phone that ran wm6.5?!?! this forum is already full of spam where people keep on asking "Can i get wm6.5 on h7? duuuuurp". SEARCH THE FORUM and READ UP A PHONE BEFORE YOU BUY IT.
simplez
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A. The phone was free (so I’m going to get the highest value handset)
B. When win phone gets more advanced I do plan to use it
C. I’ve had many custom rom’s ported from other windows devices to another, even different brands. So why is it so strange this device may? I do really like the handset
If it can’t be done, I plan to sell the HD7 on eBay and get a HD2 which will leave me up in money. But I am going to check first as the HD2 has no 720p Video, and yes I do look up facts, b4 it was the HD3/HD7 ppl where predicting it as the HTC Obsession (diamond 3). Looking things up is great, but it doesn’t hurt to ask now and then
djstujones said:
A. The phone was free (so I’m going to get the highest value handset)
B. When win phone gets more advanced I do plan to use it
C. I’ve had many custom rom’s ported from other windows devices to another, even different brands. So why is it so strange this device may? I do really like the handset
If it can’t be done, I plan to sell the HD7 on eBay and get a HD2 which will leave me up in money. But I am going to check first as the HD2 has no 720p Video, and yes I do look up facts, b4 it was the HD3/HD7 ppl where predicting it as the HTC Obsession (diamond 3). Looking things up is great, but it doesn’t hurt to ask now and then
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hd2 can't do 720p video because 6.5 can't do 720p video. It is an OS limitation, proven by the fact they have 720p video working on the h2 running android.
I agree with the others, sell the hd7, and find a hd2. I don't think the hd7 will be running winmo anytime soon.
benson_wu said:
as titile,
if HD7 can runing wm6.5, this will be fast wm system, it's will be a good news!
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i agree, it would be act of great honor, if some one could make hd7 running wm6.5.
bcoz after my hd2 i feel dire need to get some new mobile with wm6.5 os.
and i think xda developers soon make it possible.
hope for the best
.... buy a HD2, it's exactly the same but RUNS WM6.5 JUST LIKE YOU WANT. And hey, it'll be cheaper to buy too
Does anyone know how I can get a Nokia 3210 rom running on HD7? This is will was be goodz timez newz!
Correct me if im wrong!
Isnt this a developer site?...Its called XDA Developers right? So why on god's earth are people flaming people for creativity questions?...If someone wants windows mobile 6.5 on a WP7 device what do you care? Just because you don't think its a good idea doesn't give you the right to flame, I know personally I like having options on a device that is not locked down from exploring those options the very reason I chose windows mobile over apple devices in the past because of the ability to customize, take that away and in my opinion the device kind of sucks....If that was the case though and we couldn't mod our devices and ROM's and stuff then why would we even come to XDA?....Phones come with operational manuals in the box with the device, but nobody knocks people over and over for asking questions that are printed in the manual, To the people wanting a different operating system on your WP7 device don't let closed minded people stop you from exploring the capabilities of your Device....That's my opinion on the subject, I would like a Windows Mobile 6.5 Duty ROM and a Stock WP7 ROM and Android all on my device if possible I think that would be bad a$$ but that's my opinion, so don't let the trolls discourage you is all I'm saying...Not everybody has $200 to throw around, and some of us have wives that don't allow blowing money on stuff every time a new device hits the market, so the ability to customize is what makes a phone so fun in my opinion cause you can turn something old into something new.
I still have my HD2, it's sitting right next to my computer. I'm using a *cringe* Cliq 2 atm for work. But love my HD2 to pieces. It has the ability, thanks to devs here, to run WM6.5, WP7, Android, and actually a couple other OS. I'm patiently waiting for my HD7 to come in the mail. I'm sure it's possible to get WM6.5 on the HD7, but as others have said, it's probably on the bottom of the list for devs. Getting WP7 onto the HD2 was more of an "I told you so" to MS that it's possible to get it onto an unsupported device.
got stuck with win7 phone on t mo....android port to hd7 is the way to go. i hate hd7 no customizations, and very bland....got stuck with the hd7 due to hd2 bein stolen recently and the hd7 is the only phone close to hd2.
The thing that *really* annoys me, is these people who hate WP7 (yet buy/own a WP7 device (wtf?)) come to what i would like to consider a respectable developers forum, and ***** and moan... "oh no i can't customise it!", "oh no i can't flash another OS to it!", "Oh no I got it becuase it looks like/has the same HW as the HD2 but it's not a HD2 at all!"
If you *really* dislike the phone/OS, then don't bother wasting time (and other's) by posting repetative threads on here. Trade your phone for one that you want. Right now here in the UK the HD7 is selling on the bay for about £250, whereas the HD2, about £200. So sell your phone, buy a HD2, and make £50 in the process. And leave us happy owners who enjoy the phone/OS, to do just that and enable it to progress instead of go backwards. Simplez.
i got money
Audio said:
The thing that *really* annoys me, is these people who hate WP7 (yet buy/own a WP7 device (wtf?)) come to what i would like to consider a respectable developers forum, and ***** and moan... "oh no i can't customise it!", "oh no i can't flash another OS to it!", "Oh no I got it becuase it looks like/has the same HW as the HD2 but it's not a HD2 at all!"
If you *really* dislike the phone/OS, then don't bother wasting time (and other's) by posting repetative threads on here. Trade your phone for one that you want. Right now here in the UK the HD7 is selling on the bay for about £250, whereas the HD2, about £200. So sell your phone, buy a HD2, and make £50 in the process. And leave us happy owners who enjoy the phone/OS, to do just that and enable it to progress instead of go backwards. Simplez.
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i didnt get why people who write what they want annoy you. coz im one of them i got money so i buy what i like, and i preffer hf7 to hd2 coz hd7 looks more qualified. everyones like you says ''this phone is flying this phone is so smooth''. yes it is coz it has nothing. the different between nokia 3110 vs hd7 is wifi and 5mp camera. and nokia 3110 is faster as much as hdy while calling someone or sending sms.
so if i got professional phone being fast is not important, i must do whatever i want with my phone even washing dishes thats why i carry big cell phone which is 162gr
Audio said:
@djstujones why the hell would you buy a Wp7 Device and downgrade to a lower OS?!?! Why didn't you just get a cheaper bloody phone that ran wm6.5?!?! this forum is already full of spam where people keep on asking "Can i get wm6.5 on h7? duuuuurp". SEARCH THE FORUM and READ UP A PHONE BEFORE YOU BUY IT.
simplez
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The truth...
Buy a newer version and want to downgrade to lower version...
I never do that.
Windows 7 => Kick Ass Windows XP
Windows Phone 7 => Kick Ass Windows Mobile 6.5 => Kick Ass iOS=> Kick ass Symbian , quite same and little bit lower than Android because WP7 is still new.
I have used both HTC HD2, iPhone 3G,and now HTC HD7.
HD2 on eBay ...
I am looking at getting the HD7 and putting WM6.5 on it because I have hundreds of $$ invested in software that will NOT work in WP7.
On eBay the HD2 phones are over $500 in Canada, and shipping for me from the US always includes heavy duty charges, so the $200-$300 HD2 available in the US are not really an option for me.
I can get a HD7 from Bell for $99.
Don't tell me to "just get a cheaper HD2" because the HD7 is far cheaper for me.
Hello everybody,
I'm kinda confused and would like your input:
basically I wanna know how good (or bad) is the idea of swapping HTC Desire with HD7...?
Appreciate your response guys n gals
fazalali110 said:
Hello everybody,
I'm kinda confused and would like your input:
basically I wanna know how good (or bad) is the idea of swapping HTC Desire with HD7...?
Appreciate your response guys n gals
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I Moved from Android And Love WP7 Personally, But You should look at the features that you need and use in android and find out if they are present in WP7.
Personally I know you'll have a shock when you notice how 2 phones with the same processors act differently, WP7 seems to really utilise the processor for speed, I sat in an o2 store using both models and within 10 minutes I knew I wanted the HD7.. It just felt more fluid and I like the way that it seamlessly integrates everything
WP7 is very pleasing to the eye and personally I Like it, but if you're gonna miss the features in Android i'd suggest don't move.
If you update to the developer build of mango you would get to see the shocking speeds of that too, it seems to make the phone even faster, and not by just a little bit, by a heck of a lot!
The apps are pricey however, one of the setbacks of the Xbox live system and the fairly new operating system sadly.
These are my opinions on the phones, but personally you might think differently
Thank you for your input; I've was always into WinMo and moved over to Andriod.
Didn't give WP7 a shot yet, though I must admit that it seems to be more faster and fluid than andriod. The applications are my concern..but I do need a change
let's see if anyone else would like to share their experience...
EDIT: does WP7 support VOIP/SIP?? That would be a deal breaker for me.
Thanks.
Hi,
Android graphically resembles a little win 6th. It has great potential but they really are useful for small percent of people. WP7 is a new OS, still far from perfect, but moving in the right direction. It is good that Nokia will work. This will force the great progress and I think at the end of the year we will already have a good system.
Personally I have HTC HD7 and HTC IS and I am not going to get rid HD7.
Regards
Okay I'll try to keep it short and sweet.
>Buy HD2 in 2010
>End of 2011 digitizer dies and phone gets permanent white screen brick (no clue how honestly)
>Now hate HTC because they're dicks about their faulty phones and repairs
>I'm due for an early upgrade from T-Mobile and I could get the new 710
>The Radar is nice but 8GB won't cut it for me plus I don't feel so good about a white phone, also much more expensive than say an used HD7 or a new 710.
>Seeing lots of cheap HD7's on eBay
>Getting boners
So the question: Considering that the HD2 and HD7 are such similar devices, are the digitizers as big of an issue as with the HD2's? I would literally burn the HD7 if I wake up one day the the digitizer goes off on me. Also, are there any popular/ common issues with the HD7 I should be aware of? Really considering the HD7 since I loved everything about its older brother the HD2.
Using a Samsung Comeback now and this phone is killing me, literally. I feel like I'm in 2006.
Input appreciated.
Samsung is better right now
I have had hd2 used for a year and now my cousin is using it. Then I bought an hd7 but really I would prefer hd2. Now I am using galaxy s2 and hd7 is as a spare phone.
If you can find a nice Schubert (HD7) cheap, get it...the memory can be upgraded and there are custom roms for it. I've had mine for over a year, the keyboard bug is the biggest problem but an update is coming.
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similar situation
hey, guys. newbie here
since i wanted to basically ask this question, i thought i would just ask here and not bother opening a new thread.
all i want to know is: is this phone worth getting?
www[dot]eglobaldigitalcameras[dot]com[dot]au/htc-hd7-t9292-16gb-unlocked.html
anybody happen to know if this will have any problems in flashing custom roms? (i really don't want to have to do gold card)
i hope i'm not hijacking this thread :\ but thank you to anyone who replies
hi bro
i have an iphone and recently bought a new hd7 (8GB) but the exiting point is felt in love with it!
for example in start menu microsoft used some exiting animatione
and somthing else that microsoft isn't like apple or other companies and they're helping hackers to make the best os ever
in my opinion if you want to have a wp7 device HD7 is like monster
and for flashing custom roms simply do these works:
-goto boot loader (by pressing vol down + power up)
-load RSLP/HSPL
-run ROMUpdateUtility.exe on your PC
-click update then wait
Note: don't download the wrong rom for your phone because it can seriously damage it
Don't buy WP7 phone, get an Android!
Your GPS will be useless, there is no app other than online downloading ones that require 3G. Get android and iGo with offline maps, be free!
segaodma said:
Don't buy WP7 phone, get an Android!
Your GPS will be useless, there is no app other than online downloading ones that require 3G. Get android and iGo with offline maps, be free!
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And see, I myself am an Android user/owner, for the past 2 years... and I'm over here looking to jump ship.
It all comes down to preference. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Android, but it gives me something to tinker with ALL DAY LONG. I find myself wasting 6-8 hours a day (at home and at work) tinkering with the phone, researching mods, flashing ROMs, reloading apps after flashes... I spend more time tinkering with the phone than I do actually using it!
I'm 39 years old for crying out loud - I don't need to be throwing a 3rd of my day away playing with this toy! LOL! I'd rather have something that looks great as is and just works!
segaodma said:
Don't buy WP7 phone, get an Android!
Your GPS will be useless, there is no app other than online downloading ones that require 3G. Get android and iGo with offline maps, be free!
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Untrue.
Navigon now uses offline maps. Also Nokia Drive. Upon first setup asks you what maps you want to download.
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hi, in my opinion you should go for an htc hd7. right now its hardware is not quite up to par with the latest phones out there esp droids but its the combination of the fluid and smooth OS with respectable hardware performance that still makes the hd7 a joy to use ^_^
I'm getting one because I love windows phone 7, the ui is like melted butter! So smoothe, no lagg.
I also am personally switching from android, mostly because I cracked the screen on it.
Though android always seems to have a sluggish and laggy UI, even with the most top notch specs.
I played around with many of the WP7 phones on display, and I love them.
The only draw back idea have to say, is the lack of apps to choose from. The games from Xbox live are pretty fun though.