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Just a couple of questions as i notice when i was using the MSN
1. Does you PDA slow down to a craw when you launch the Messenger & also while it's running in the background?
2. When setting up Messenger, do you merge Messenger contacts with outlook or not?
3. When you launch Messenger be it on 3G connection or WiFi, how long does it take before it loads your full list of contacts?
4. Is there a way to speed up the Messenger on the TyTN II?
5. What version of Windows Live are you using?
Mine.
1. I can barely use my PDA for anything while Messenger is running. It feels as if it has freeze most of the time
2. I merge my contacts with Outlook
3. It takes mine a good 7 - 10 minutes before it loads up my Messenger list which is only about 120 contacts
4. Would love some advice here
5. Version 10.6.0033.0600
Appreciate any advice as i use Messenger a lot. Thank you and Merry Christmas

I don't really now all that but for me I love windows live... I wish the GPS worked a little better though... So many times it cannot find a signal. In anyevent...
The real question is what do you all feel is better Google live or windows live?

christian15213 said:
I don't really now all that but for me I love windows live... I wish the GPS worked a little better though... So many times it cannot find a signal. In anyevent...
The real question is what do you all feel is better Google live or windows live?
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people!! There are 2 very different Windows Live/Live Search apps. Can we please start getting this straight?
I know MS made some idiotic branding/naming decisions, but I feel like if you own WinMo phone you should have it figured out by now.
The questions refer to Windows Live, NOT Live Search.
1.) No. Messenger does not bring my phone to crawl, although I rarely stay connected long because Windows Live + Kaiser Connection Issues = major suck fest (just search my past post for more info)
2.) No I do not merge Outlook contacts. I keep Live for all personal contacts and Exchange server for business. Works out really great.
3.) To connect to Messenger and see buddy list (about 105 contacts) over 3G takes approximately 1 minute.
4.) Have you tried Kaiser Tweak app for changing File System and Glyph settings? These tend to improve overall device performance and work well for me.
5.) I have used them all and recently downgraded to 10.6.32.2100.
I have to admit I do not use the Messenger portion much. My main complaint has been not getting Push mail to work correctly. Had NO issues with WL on my Hermes. I submitted a report to MS and they are supposedly "working on it"

Well...if that is the case, my Messenger is confirm not working the way it's suppose to. I actually though it was normal cos i had the same problem on my Hermes.
Care to give me the settings in the KaiserTweak file system thing that u r using.
1 more question....can i just download & install a older or newer version & have the current version overwrite?

1. i cant tell its running - but my contacts list is quite small - see 2.
2. i initially merged but got peeved off as all my msn contacts got mixed up with my real life contacts which made finding phone number laborious - so i reset it all only to find that doing so wiped my messenger contact list - entirely - no more contacts - not even on my main pc! so now i dont merge.
3. cant say on these two, havent really ever connected via them - on gprs though it takes about 6 seconds ish - but again my contacts list is short.
4. probably not
5. Version 10.6.0033.0600
my pet peev is the windows live home screen plugin - its far too large

Scann69 said:
Well...if that is the case, my Messenger is confirm not working the way it's suppose to. I actually though it was normal cos i had the same problem on my Hermes.
Care to give me the settings in the KaiserTweak file system thing that u r using.
1 more question....can i just download & install a older or newer version & have the current version overwrite?
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In Kaiser Tweak, under Cache. I am using all the (Advised) Settings. However I don't think that will help your problem much. Do a lot of your contacts have a custom display picture? When I contatced MS about my problem with emails they told me to change my display pic to a default as custom pics have been known to cause issues. If a lot of people on your buddy list have custom pics, that could be causing the delay.
Also, do not install WL over a previous version. First uninstall it from your device and soft reset. Then install the older version.
Let us know if you find something to fix the issue.

fusi said:
1. i cant tell its running - but my contacts list is quite small - see 2.
2. i initially merged but got peeved off as all my msn contacts got mixed up with my real life contacts which made finding phone number laborious - so i reset it all only to find that doing so wiped my messenger contact list - entirely - no more contacts - not even on my main pc! so now i dont merge.
3. cant say on these two, havent really ever connected via them - on gprs though it takes about 6 seconds ish - but again my contacts list is short.
4. probably not
5. Version 10.6.0033.0600
my pet peev is the windows live home screen plugin - its far too large
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In case u hit problem number 2 again, u can actually log into MSN on your desktop, then click on Tools->Options->Privacy then click on View. From there, just right click on the names on the list and add to contacts

njmarchetti said:
In Kaiser Tweak, under Cache. I am using all the (Advised) Settings. However I don't think that will help your problem much. Do a lot of your contacts have a custom display picture? When I contatced MS about my problem with emails they told me to change my display pic to a default as custom pics have been known to cause issues. If a lot of people on your buddy list have custom pics, that could be causing the delay.
Also, do not install WL over a previous version. First uninstall it from your device and soft reset. Then install the older version.
Let us know if you find something to fix the issue.
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Thanx for the info. Sadly most of my contacts have their own custom pictures which might explain the slow loading of my MSN.
This still does not explain why when MSN is running, my TyTN II is crawling to the extend many time i just reset it and stop using the MSN
Well....guess now i have another problem....my MSN is in the ROM itself. I'm using Dutty's No.7B ROM. Any ideas?

Hi,I have 10.6.0031.2600 version and it doesn't work too.I send a mail to http://support.live.com and they answer me that i must verify proxy connections.So i don't know why because it worked before ...

Finally....when setting up MSN, do not "Store & Merge contacts with Outlook". This has made my MSN run like normal again. Now it's fast Thanks guys for the tips & advice. Problem solved.

New Diamond, please help

Hey fellow forum users,
I recently (read: last tuesday afternoon) got my Diamond. And I am kind of lost.
First of all, my internet doesn't work. Tuesday begin of the evening it did work. But at the end of the evening and today it hasn't worked at all. @ the dutch vodafone site there are specific things you need to fill in which I did. However it still doesn't work. So I will be giving them a call first thing tomorow.
Second of all, my music. When I plug in my Touch Diamond on the computer, I see this map "content" I click on it and I see "music" so I put an album in there, but there is no music on the phone. Does it have to be converted? because I didnt find a converter on any of the cd's I was given. The same thing with my video. I put a movie on it for testing, but can't find that anywhere on my phone either.
Further I have some requests,
- I am looking for a transparant clock (the white part transparant) so you'll see the wallpaper better.
- I am looking for a way to change the bottom bar.
- I am looking for the best way to use my gps receiver (like a program or something).
- A way to simplify my contacts, I find it very annoying to have all this info. I just want to keep their names with e-mail, mobile phone numer and home number.
- A thing like that weather tab, only then with the time. Don't know if it's out but I find that a really funny feature on the iPods. Perhaps with those huge analog clocks showing the time of 6 countries in the world
Thanks in advance,
Dennis
p.s. I'll be using this topic if allowed for some further questions and am looking forward to any advice given.
p.p.s general advice on what to do with it for easier and better use of the device is very very much welcome.
p.p.p.s I have these programs on my phone aswell, as a .rar file still though if that matters (he said not), someone adviced me to put them on:
- Mortonscript
- Diamond TF3D Config Setup
- Automatic Wallpaper changer (no use for this yet but I really liked the background he was talking about that changed to the time it was, so like a sun during the day and a moon during the night).
I am completly lost at the moment. Gonna study the books that were packed with it I guess. Any help is appreciated.
1000 times thanks for anyone who can help.
(and hope this is allowed)

anyone that can help?

Rydan said:
anyone that can help?
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Hi Dennis,
I'll try to help where I can. The internet issue you will probably have to sort out with your provider. If it was working and now it isn't it the only thing I can think of is you made some change to the network config. They should be able to get it working again.
As for Music I found the best way to transfer music to the Diamond is through active sync. Plug your phone in to your PC, when prompted on the phone select active sync, then on the PC open up Windows Media player and select sync. Then just drag and drop the music you want on your phone to the sync panel and then click sync. All the music you selected will be transferred to your phone and the album art and everything if it is available will be displayed on the phone.
For the transaprent flip clock and lots more tf3d mods, look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436867
For the bottom bar you have to be more specific, do you want to change the softkeys??
I find the best GPS software is either google maps or microsoft live search, both are free, google them!
For contacts there are many solutions out there, you will have to look on your own, sorry!
I've seen world clock application but most of them are home plugins, again you will have to look around on your own..
As for the rest, you will have to spend some time reading and searching. I don't advise reading the book that came with it as it contains very little useful info.
hit me back if you have anymore questions!!! oh and welcome to the community!!!

With changing the bottombar I mean putting like perhaps the gps on the spot of the photo / video etc.
Thanks btw

Sorry Dennis, as far as i know there is currently no method for changing the tf3d tabs. You can add some but really they already exist just not displayed. You can try SSmapa to replace some of the default functions.

Nothing new in the new official HTC ROM???

Everything is quiet like the grave... I haven't heard or read a single word if there is anything new in this rom except the tiny bug fixes announced by HTC...
Anybody who already upgraded, have you noticed something new???

Hey
Apart from the official line heres what ive noticed (in twelve hours)
1. Sliding Bar answer on incoming calls
2. Text input keys are smaller so that you can actually see whats on the screen when youre writing (sic)
3. Ever so slight speed improvement on finger sliding
4. Video Call re-replaced with contacts (life saver)
5. Might just be me but the fonts seem sharper and slightly smaller.
6. Add a word in text messaging for example now gives a tick and a cross instead of "add"
Just random little things Ive noticed but as they say, its the little things that count eh!

no more flipping envelope when going to mail it's just there...
and some speed improvements, but in winmo only (not touchflo).

hey just a couple more
7. When connecting to PC via USB you get a 3rd choice - internet sharing (as well as active sync and disk drive)
8. HTC flo text message section now has a forward option as well as reply and delete - no need to view all messages to forward
ill keep you posted (or not if no one is interested)

Thanks for the replies
I feel like the Sliding Bar on answering calls helped me decide to upgrade, even though I'll loose the flipping envelopes

Sliding Bar is good
Ability to forward text message from Touch flo is good
The rest are the icing on the cake!!!
Good luck - I had a bit of a scare with my upgrade last night - it stopped on 60% and told me the image file was corrupt. Worked second time though from the same file???

First bug: if you have activated a security PIN (like me) you can't block the phone keeping pressed the phone down button. The screen goes black for a fraction of second but the phone doesn't block.
Another thing I didn't notice before (so I'm not sure if it was the same in previous versions): you can add only 15 persons to your favorite contacts (the "Add to Favorites" buttons just disappears). BTW, is there any tweak to increase this limit?

its always been 15
I use speed dials - easier and possibly limited to 100 (not sure)
The favourites has always annoyed me - you cant seem to change the order in which they appear and they look boring without a picture (IMO)!

There's also a new Java engine, better than the old one. At least better for Opera Mini 4.2, fonts are now bigger and easier to read.
A recommended update.

jodeltje said:
no more flipping envelope when going to mail it's just there...
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My envelopes are flipping fine.... just as they always have!
And for anyone's who's interested; if you've been using any of the cooked ROM's which have been released recently, you won't notice any difference with this official release because the ROM cookers have been using v2.03 for weeks!

9. Agenda from home screen works correct now. Choose the view u'd like to see, (day, week, month whatever) and it will open up correctly right now, when opening Agenda from home screen.
10. When u select agenda or calls on the home screen, it will be selected by green. When u finished looking agenda or calls, and return to the home screen, the green selected option is gone, a clear screen with no green. (before the thing was always green when u turned back, it frustrated me )
Just 2 things i recognized!

I saw it at Singapore web site http://www.htc.com/sea/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=483&news_id=44

jporch316 said:
...and they look boring without a picture (IMO)!
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They do indeed, but thanks to Facebook I have pictures for all of my favorite friends...
I'll give a look to speed dial too

with this new rom, i have a problem:
when i receive a message and open it with tf3d i can't type prompt.
i have to move down the text to see the last message and then i have to put the cursor on the correct place.

Its a rom update but is it aswell a radio update?
Willem

Noobie question,
As The HTC website won't accept my Orange UK Diamond S/N, would it be okay to download from another source, or do I have to wait until Orange to approve the newer ROM, and publish on their website confused
many thanks

Jonfun said:
Noobie question,
As The HTC website won't accept my Orange UK Diamond S/N, would it be okay to download from another source, or do I have to wait until Orange to approve the newer ROM, and publish on their website confused
many thanks
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As far I now Orange use a own brand rom and when you start using a other rom you will lose your waranty, ofcoarse you can get a other rom just ask someone here to upload it, but you can use than aswell a coocked rom.
Willem

Wilsas said:
As far I now Orange use a own brand rom and when you start using a other rom you will lose your waranty, ofcoarse you can get a other rom just ask someone here to upload it, but you can use than aswell a coocked rom.
Willem
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Yeah, correct. Orange will distribute their own ROM's.
11. AKU version has been updated to allow synchronisation to two PC's (fixing the Activesync error 0x86000107).

Hey
A little bug that I found last night - I installed nadavvi-nadavvi-call-history cab - which installs an extra call history tab to the touchflo menu
Afterwards everytime i tried to access sms through touchflo i kept getting unexpected errors in manila.exe.
As soon as i uninstalled the call history tab sms started working again. Shame as i had this installed with the older rom with no probs and it is quite handy.

I've decided to do the upgrade tonight but I have a question:
All my apps are installed in the 4GB Internal Storage (Not the phone memory). Will the Internal Storage be viped out aswell during the upgrade?
If not, I guess all apps will be useless anyway since the registry is viped. Do you recommend uninstalling all the apps before the rom upgrade???

Suggest a Rom and GUI for me.

OK, my first post so be gentle.
I have MDA Vario that has been flashed with TPCElite series V11 MEGA wm6.5 23017. It also has the touchflo GUI running. Now having tried it for a week (only just purchased it a week ago) I can say that I'm not a fan of the touchflo prog. It seems to hang on occasions and I often end up selecting something I didn't want only to find the phone connecting to the net. So I have switched it off. There is a windows default one that is working fine, but I can't see a way to customise the menu so I can add what I want to it.
So my dilemma. Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards - this way I can uninstall it if I don't like it. Or should I just leave it deselected and install a new one? Will this have any performance/memory issues - ie is the lite rom a better way to go.
I had a Mio PDA with iLauncher on it and I liked the ability to add my own shortcuts etc.
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI? Been looking at Manila 2D v2 but I want to be able to customise the main menu and I don't want it sluggish.
One final thing. Is it possible to get the phone to ask permission before connecting via gprs rather than scurrying around for the disconnect. I've looked through the menus but can't find anything. Don't mind using it if I want it, just fed up of it dialing it by mistake -(I have sausage fingers.)

i recommend the t.i.r element v5 rom. ive been thru many roms including the tpc series that you have tried and i find that t.i.r element v5 is the best w/ smooth graphics, great gui (full landscape support etc.) i cant post a link as of now since i am new to posting on xda so please look it up and give it a shot!

Is there a CLI version of a rom for this phone or is someone just trying too sound fancy? Since when is touchflu a GUI? I am totally confused.
Do I flash with a "lite" rom and add a GUI myself afterwards
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Uh my head is hurting make it stop.. SOMEONE REPLIED TO THIS?? awmg
If I should flash can anyone recommend a stable reliable rom. Also is there a better GUI
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I am so confused, it's like trying to mess with a womans bra (Full Landscape support) for the first time, what do I do.. do I call her new hair doo a pair of panties? AAAHHHHHHHH
Stylez close this **** down.. REASON.... Doesn't make any sense at all..
I used the GUI version of this forum to reply.. Thanks.

hi DTBrum,
touchflo - i never liked it too, don't know which files are responsible for its running and if it could be removed, seems like it's part of needed htc drivers to me, but this will switch it off completely:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"EnableScroll"=dword:00000000
"EnableCube"=dword:00000000
you need a registry editor to change those values.
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you can't replace gui, or you can theoretically but what you mean is sort of launcher, or today manager. I tried more and didn't like any, they all seems to be laggy to me.
windows in default uses today screen and start menu, it's the same way as in pc edition, there are folders with shortcuts in them for start menu
look in \windows\start menu folder. and on today screen, you can set what you want to see there in settings/today
I use start replacement called quickmenu which is a very small prg with lots of tweaks.
if you don't like those fancy launchers and controls, better you make your own rom. it's very easy with tools from xda. nearly all custom roms lite or full you'll find here have some kind of launchers and today replacement already in them and it's hard to remove or disable them.
there is a lot of different apps like iLauncher, you can install/uninstall.
no one will recommend you any custom rom here, you need to go through trying one after another because everybody's preferences differs. look in wiki.
automatic connect. no, there is no way to disable this. you can use app called 'nodata' but then you'll have to run it to enable/disable every time you want to use internet. But it solves problems in roaming.
Some programs can be set to not auto dial. and another option is, you can set a fake internet connection, make it default and then when you want to go online you'll dial the real one manually. But you may find that some programs would not want to use other then default connection.
and don't get discouraged here on forum, some people are smart here, true, but not all of us here get born that way.

Thankx for the replies.
What I found with touchflo was that there are occasions where I try to scroll from left to right and nothing happens, then all of a sudden I find it has selected something like maps or internet and the phone is trying to connect to the net. Then it starts responding normally. So as a front end user interface for me I'm not that keen on it. Also I can't see a way to remove the categories sucj as maps, and add my own. I have a registry editor and will try changing the values suggested and see if that helps. I'll do a search for the other bits recommended.
Apologies ChumleyEX, not sure if I used the correct terminology. For me a program such as touchflo is an alternative GUI that sits on top of the windows GUI. Just want to know if there are better, more reliable ones. Doesn't have to be fancy. I want to be able to customise it and for it to be quick and responsive.

Sorry I'm sure I was too harsh, I was feeling a little too good last night.

No problem ChumleyEX - no harm done.
Papo - thanks for you time and help, you cleared a few things up for me. Registry edited and touchflo now disabled.
As I said I've only had this device a week and only just found this site recently, so I'm not really up on the terminology so I'm hoping you can look past my shortcomings please. I'll get there. I'm no novice with pc's or pda's but I'm not in the same league as most people on here I admit.
My question about installing an alternative to touchflo was because some of these other programs such as ilauncher like to be installed to the device memory rather than storage card. I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that. I have no option to remove touchflo.
I was hoping that by describing what I was after people would recommend something that fits the bill. But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of. There is some really nice work here on this site - so tempted to give it a go. I guess we all like different things so it's a matter of personal choice really. Key for me is functionality/responsiveness. It's no good if the interface gets in the way no matter how good it looks.
Off to read some reviews of roms on here now. I'll check out t.i.r element v5 as suggested by agent1001 first.

dude, stop fretting and just try out as many ROMs as you can...and remember to search and read a LOT! it will help in the long run to build your concepts.
i have TWO more suggestions/clarifications for you:
1. you might have big fingers, but what i suspect is that you are using your device as if it has a capacitive screen...which it doesn't. the kaiser (like many htc phones) has a resistive screen. essentially, what this means is that the screen will respond best with a good amount of pressure, applied at a point. so the best suggestion i can give you that will tremendously improve your experience with the device is...use your finger NAILS! the effect is as if you are using a stylus and once you get used to it, any "GUI" will become usable.
2. what you call a "GUI" is not a GUI, technically. this is what chumleyex was alluding to. these "GUIs" run as today screen plugins. they are just that...they are "today screen plugins"...also called "home screen" in other contexts of discussion. you can have many such plugins installed on your device. you can even have many such plugins running at once on your today screen. however, some take over the today screen completely, so you can only use them exclusively. manila2d/manila3d, spb mobile shell, and quite a few others are such kinds of today screen plugins. installing multiple such plugins only takes up storage space. RUNNING multiple such plugins is like running many applications at once...which will consume memory and may slow down the phone, etc, etc.
as always, you should have read the forum rules...which clearly state that "best of" threads or "suggest me a <insert requirement here>" style threads are against the forum rules. which leads me to believe that you probably haven't read the other "stickies" and "wikis" either. start there and then you'll find yourself asking a lot less basic questions that clutter up the forum. don't be surprised if this thread is closed soon by a forum mod. cheers.

Thanks ASCIIker - screen is more responsive with more pressure. Guess I was worried about cracking it.
I did do loads of reading before posting - mainly to do with how to, hard spl, soft spl, roms, radio threads. Sorry if I missed the bit about asking for recommendations.

DTBrum said:
I don't want to find I start running low on resources so I was contemplating flashing the phone with a wm6.5 lite version with all the MS bloatware removed and adding a launcher/today screen manager afterwards. At least this way if I don't like a particular one I could un-install that.
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I get the feeling that you think those fancy things in full custom ROMs are taking up space. they are not. and not using them, disabling them, or deleting shortcuts from start menu would do the same as uninstalling.
you've got:
flash memory - (ROM)
int. memory - think about it as HDD: depends, typicaly little over 100MB
RAM, operating memory, like on PC another 100MB: to be used by progs.
those names differs, to add confusion, some refers to int.memory as ROM
MS bloatware & fancy stuff from custom ROMs which you don't want could still rest in peace in ROM and not bothering you. you'll still have your 100MB int.mem. And as long as they are not actively running you still will have 100 RAM and no processor power used. but exactly like mentioned every plugin on today screen means it's running too. get an fdc task manager or alternative to see all processes and other stuff running. (not just tasks) You can find a way to disable nearly everything.
I have no option to remove touchflo.
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I don't think there is any. even with ultra lite, i could be mistaken with this, but i tried hard and it looks like it's part of required htc drivers. so you only could disable it...at least! i hated it too no matter about fingers. it seems better on htc pro2 anyway.
But for now I keep looking at the roms and reading the comments until I find one I like the look of.
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yep, the look would be the main difference i'll say.
but if you want functionality/responsiveness, than you probably better stick with using start button and today screen without unnecessary additions.
* installing on SD card means it will go much slower and (at least on my kaiser) will sometime create errors on card from crashed apps and when I dropped phone or it died w/o shutdown or when contacts on SD card get loosed. many times I even lost complete SD contents.
You have 100MB of int.mem!! it would love to be used by progs.
I suggest you to try all of available and up-to-date custom ROMs then after getting an idea of what is doing what, just mix your own rom. it's a matter of check-in what you want inside basically. and you can add your own stuff too. like programs you buy or are not in any ROM. I have over 110MB of programs fitted in ROM and still 100MB int.mem. and speed of the device and ram is not affected too, because i let only 3 - 4 apps from that running in background.

Well I've tried flashing it and had to visit the toilet as things didn't go well.
I flashed with a lite rom, plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install a nice front end/today screen/touchflo etc to the device when I settled on one I liked.
Rom flashed fine - quite like it.
Radio didn't go well. Got stuck at the dreaded tri coloured screen.
Mtty.exe didn't recover it either.
Visited toilet.
Flashed back to standard rom from manufacturer. All now back up and running.
Have changed underpants.
At least I was able to use the info on here to get it back up and running OK.
Problem was a write error flashing the suggested radio - at 99% got an error 226.

DTBrum said:
plan being to leave enough free space on the device to install
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check my previous post.
try flashing from SD card, a lot of troubles with cable/pc/connector
format small (256MB) SD card with FAT32,
rename ruu_signed.nbh file to KAISIMG.NBH place on root of SD
hold camera button and start or reset pda

I think to be honest I'm a little paranoid about keeping the device memory free. The reason is my wife has an O2 Orbit which was running wm5. It has been updated to WM6 and she has very little free storage memory at all on the device to the point where we have struggled getting some programs installed. I know most give you the option to install to storage card or device, but some don't. Also the ones that do install on the storage card often put some files onto the device, such as help or configuration files.
I know this HTC has a lot more memory so it probably isn't an issue in reality.
I'm up to speed about the different types of memory and whether an app is consuming processing power or just storage space depending upon if it running or not. I just didn't have a chance to read your reply before I posted- wife wanted the PC back. And I was relieved just to have the phone back working.
Papo - thanks for you help. Really appreciate it.

I had my tilt for 2 years and never worried about memory.

OK, flashed the phone a couple of times yesterday and I've now found a rom I like a lot. Even the GUI - touchflo - works like a dream and with the programs that came with the rom I can even customise it how I like. It's smooth, quick and I am yet to discover a bug.
I'll give it a run for a couple of weeks and if I decide to keep this then I'll donate.
Interestingly I flashed back to stock rom from T Mobile through links I found on here. Worked without a problem, provided a 6ft+ 16stone bloke is happy with everything in pink. So I then flashed back to the standard HTC rom wm6.1 and had lots of problems. Basic things like selecting tick boxes didn't even work well.
I understand that everyone wants different things from their phones, how they look etc and that is why it is impossible to say which rom is best. But through this site, I have a customised phone that runs so smooth and quickly and looks damn smart. So at the moment I am well chuffed.
The only really difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them and the backup I took was incomplete as I only backed up the sim and not the phone. D'oh. Anyway I've now sorted this out as I found all the old contacts in outlook deleted items. I restored them back to the contacts folder and synced them again and it's all now back up and running.
Off to have a play
If she lets me I may even flash the wifes O2 Orbit XDA. It's been upgraded from wm5 to wm6 and the new rom leaves very little free memory on the device itself and we do struggle at times getting some software onto it. The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device. I have manually moved it back to the SD card and made new shortcuts etc, but I feel a new rom from this site would be the way to go.
Thank you to all who helped me.

DTBrum said:
difficulty I encountered was I lost all my contacts. Activesync wouldn't restore them
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activeSync & outlook played tricks on me too, deleting or doubling all contacts... even easier than backing up by backup program, is to copy 'RAW' database in pda before re-flashing. it's all in one file called PIM.VOL in root of phone. calendar is there as well. you can copy this to SD and upon reflashing copy back to root of pda and see what PC's outlook will have to say to it. or just keep on SD as 2nd backup.
note, the file may be locked by running programs (contacts, messages, home plugin) kill them from taskman in that case.
The version of TomTom I have doesn't let you choose where to install it to, it just goes onto the device.
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tomtom app is two files tomtom nav.exe and data.chk, put them anywhere you like and the rest, config files, will be created by it.
but it runs really slow from SD. and taking 13MB, so again, it's best to have them in ROM.

[Q] Several questions about WP8 and Nokia 920

Hello every one,
I just acquired a Nokia 920 yesterday. So far the handset is about the finest thing I have ever held, It just begs to be used when its in your hand. All is not perfect though, I have some questions. Any recommendations for solutions are greatly appreciated.
I started using PDA's in the early 90's, my first smart phone was a Blackberry, I switch to Android when they dropped the ball. I am of the opinion that the win8 ecosystem is the future for enterprise and productivity. Basically I expect a lot from a smart phone, I expect it to be a top notch PDA, a phone, and a good device for killing time.
1) How do you turn off the haptic feedback on the three hard buttons? I can't overstate how much I hate haptic feedback, this has me on the edge of returning the phone. I want to throw the phone across the room every time I feel it.
2) How do I turn off the touch points on the keyboard? I find having a little flag pop up with the letter I just pressed is annoying. Better yet, where can I get a decent keyboard? The installed keyboard is as bad as the iPhone one - crap. I can span 13 keys on a piano, I want my keyboard to span the screen, I want it to have alternate symbols accessible by long pressing, and it would be cool if it was skinnable, though the built in skin is nice for me. I tried the market place and all I could find was foreign alphabet keyboards.
3) Color coded emails. I did figure out how to merge both my calendars and my email accounts to a single tile. It would be nice to have some kind of color coding for the inbox so I don't have to open the email to see what account it is from.
4) recommend a good calendar. The default one only shows events for the same day. It would be nice to have the live tile show upcoming events in the future. The app must be able to let me make appointments as well. Did not find anything nice in the store.
5) A decent music player. As near as I can tell, Nokia music is just MS music re-skinned. When I hit the music tile, I want to see what I am currently listening too with buttons to skip/pause/etc. and a link to my library to change artists. Nokia Music is pure bloat, I have to navigate past market place stuff, then navigate around to find a pause button. Pretty much sucks to use. The mixer is buried inside the setting menu, so when I change music styles, I have to navigate down through the settings to change the mixer, then navigate back around to the music player. This whole set-up is about as crappy as anything I have ever seen. To make matters worse, the mixer is not pin able. I would love to have something comparable to PowerAmp.
Thanks in advance. I've used XDA for years, and always found my answers buried somewhere in these forums.
P.S. anyone who can get the sexy Samsung voice ported over to Nokia Drive deserves a special prize

joshua43214 said:
Hello every one,
1) How do you turn off the haptic feedback on the three hard buttons? I can't overstate how much I hate haptic feedback, this has me on the edge of returning the phone. I want to throw the phone across the room every time I feel it.
2) How do I turn off the touch points on the keyboard? I find having a little flag pop up with the letter I just pressed is annoying. Better yet, where can I get a decent keyboard? The installed keyboard is as bad as the iPhone one - crap. I can span 13 keys on a piano, I want my keyboard to span the screen, I want it to have alternate symbols accessible by long pressing, and it would be cool if it was skinnable, though the built in skin is nice for me. I tried the market place and all I could find was foreign alphabet keyboards.
3) Color coded emails. I did figure out how to merge both my calendars and my email accounts to a single tile. It would be nice to have some kind of color coding for the inbox so I don't have to open the email to see what account it is from.
4) recommend a good calendar. The default one only shows events for the same day. It would be nice to have the live tile show upcoming events in the future. The app must be able to let me make appointments as well. Did not find anything nice in the store.
5) A decent music player. As near as I can tell, Nokia music is just MS music re-skinned. When I hit the music tile, I want to see what I am currently listening too with buttons to skip/pause/etc. and a link to my library to change artists. Nokia Music is pure bloat, I have to navigate past market place stuff, then navigate around to find a pause button. Pretty much sucks to use. The mixer is buried inside the setting menu, so when I change music styles, I have to navigate down through the settings to change the mixer, then navigate back around to the music player. This whole set-up is about as crappy as anything I have ever seen. To make matters worse, the mixer is not pin able. I would love to have something comparable to PowerAmp.
Thanks in advance. I've used XDA for years, and always found my answers buried somewhere in these forums.
P.S. anyone who can get the sexy Samsung voice ported over to Nokia Drive deserves a special prize
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1) I have not yet seen a Nokia 920 yet, but in Samsung Omnia W/Samsung Flash, you can go to Settings->Extra Settings and remove it from there, check if you have a similar setting, you can request Nokia to add such a setting as its possible in Samsung and should be possible in Nokia too. If they get similar requests they may add it soon
2) AFAIK you cannot install another keyboard, but long pressing many keys you can have alternate symbols coming up. Did you try long pressing some keys? You can change the language of they keyboards via settings.
3) Dont merge the emails and have 2 separate very small tiles instead. Should solve your problem.
4) & 5) not sure yet. But since the SDK is updated with calender access soon you should get many apps with calender.

my question
does the lumia 920 or any win phone 8 device have FM radio??? if it doesnt, is it supported in win phone 8??

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1) I have not yet seen a Nokia 920 yet, but in Samsung Omnia W/Samsung Flash, you can go to Settings->Extra Settings and remove it from there, check if you have a similar setting, you can request Nokia to add such a setting as its possible in Samsung and should be possible in Nokia too. If they get similar requests they may add it soon
2) AFAIK you cannot install another keyboard, but long pressing many keys you can have alternate symbols coming up. Did you try long pressing some keys? You can change the language of they keyboards via settings.
3) Dont merge the emails and have 2 separate very small tiles instead. Should solve your problem.
4) & 5) not sure yet. But since the SDK is updated with calender access soon you should get many apps with calender.
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Thanks for the reply
Only thing in the Nokia extra settings is phone info, no actual settings at all.
Long pressing gives some alternate letter forms like hats, or umlauts. It does not work on all the letters, and you don't know what the long press gives you until you try it. Stuff like beta is on the lower case s, not the upper case. Like I said its a crap keyboard
I actually use 5 email accounts, though only 3 feed my calendar. Thanks for the suggestion though.

All devices support it as far as I know, but the software didn't made it to RTM. It will be in a upcoming update.

It's widely heralded as one of the best and most responsive keyboards ever...

- There is no built-in option to turn off haptic feedback on those keys. Manufacturer needs to develop an app (with interop level or higher access) to disable it, Microsoft needs to update the OS to add such an option, or someone has to hack the thing to turn it off. Considering that the first two probably won't happen in a timely fashion, and that WP8 has yet to be "hacked", don't expect this to change anytime soon.
- Keyboard cannot be changed. As someone mentioned, its actually heralded as one of the best keyboards on the market, and I agree. Once you get used to it, its a joy to use and is tons better than anything on Android, and as good as, if not better than the iOS keyboard. Seeing as how you said this is your first time in Windows Phone land, it may take some time for you to adjust to it, but it really is a wonderful keyboard. I do understand that it isn't for everyone, and unfortunately there is no way to change it if you happen to hate it. You also cannot disable the letter flags that appear on the screen when you tap on the keyboard.
- No color-coding for a combined inbox... yet. Not sure if this is something they are considering, and I don't think I've ever read someone suggesting it, but it makes sense, and I'd love to see this happen.
- Considering developers only really just got Calendar access with the WP8 SDK, I doubt there will be anything useful in the Store just yet. This a brand new platform that just launched, so its gonna take some time for people to figure out what they can or cannot do, and then put it on the Store for us to use.
- Xbox Music or Nokia Music will be as decent as it gets currently. Apps are able to pull from your media collection (like Nokia Music does), but I have not seen anything mind-blowing yet. I'm more than happy with Xbox Music, as it fulfills all my needs. I don't watch videos aside from stuff on YouTube though, so while I don't care for video codec support, I can understand not having total codec flexibility like you can on more open platforms or on apps like VLC.
It really sounds like that you, coming from Android, are expecting a lot more than Windows Phone 7/8 was designed to do. Windows Phone 8 can do a lot, but this OS was built from the ground up to be rather different than your typical PDA operating system. You will not get the same kind of flexibility on Windows Phone 8 that you would with Android.
For comparison:
- Windows Phone 7/8 is more like iOS. Relatively stable/reliable, curated store, locked down, relatively consistent.
- Android is more like old Windows Mobile. Infinitely more customizable and flexible, open market, relatively nonrestrictive, not very consistent, not completely reliable/stable.