Real Android Roms next to WM - XPERIA X1 Android Development

Hello guys, it's been a while since the last time I came here, i'm going to get my x1 soon, but I want an Android Rom on this, I heard that Ext2 is faster than Fat32, so as it's better to make a ROM on the SD card instead of the phone memory, why dont you all make Roms with auto charging Android, I mean it boots automatically Android instead of WM,
dont know if its possible, i dont know anything I'm not a dev, I just say what i imagined lol, sorry for bad english (if it is) and thank you all very very very much!!!!

Insall Gen.Y DualBOOT when in Windows and select android to boot 1st.

Related

ANDROID ?

hi
i had installed wm 6.5 (lost in asia version 6.5) on my HD. i cant able to boot android on my phone. android will work on wm 6.5 ?. when run "haret" its goes to command screen then hanging a long time. i have to remove the battery to boot it my HD. i am using sandisk 8gb mmc. can anyone help me in this.
2255
when u start haret... winmo will be deactivated....
Yes, so it doesnt matter what version of winmo you use.
Try downloading it again and unpacking it to the Root of your memory stick (so not in any folders).
Also, try putting the touch hd in activesync mode and connect to a pc, then try to boot android.
As it is though, dont put time in to getting that version of android version as tuxhero is completely restarting the project - rewriting all of the code, so expect that work better anyway.

CAN YOU COOK A ROM WITH WINMO 6.5 (Sense 2.5) AND ANDROID 2.1 (HTC Sense)

Can you a ROM like that and use Gen.Y.DualBoot to choose OS ?
zz123 said:
Can you a ROM like that and use Gen.Y.DualBoot to choose OS ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, if you want to do it on your own, you have to install Gen.Y.DualBoot (Don't start it while phone is on or the program will crash and won't work stable). But I don't think that ROM developers will make a special ROM for you.
Success.
you can do that without having to cook it, just install gen-y, put linux on the phone and reboot.
it may happen in the future when linux is fully working on the xperia but then one OS may have to be running off the card , or you would have to compress the two OS in the rom to fit it on the phone, but doesnt gen-y runs under windows? so linux would have to boot windows off memory and then you may have less ram or a slower OS.
but by then there would be a better way to do this.
republicano said:
you can do that without having to cook it, just install gen-y, put linux on the phone and reboot.
it may happen in the future when linux is fully working on the xperia but then one OS may have to be running off the card , or you would have to compress the two OS in the rom to fit it on the phone, but doesnt gen-y runs under windows? so linux would have to boot windows off memory and then you may have less ram or a slower OS.
but by then there would be a better way to do this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You actually replied the same as me.
I can say to you a rom but this one in finished Spanish
Can anyone make it ?

placing android on the nand flash

i saw this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625200 and they figured out how to get it working. im new to the x1 and isntead of searching everything it would be easier just to ask
1. are there devs still working on the x1 and android?
2. is it possible to run android as a primary..is there a chance?
thanks. mods can delete after
forget it! it will never be any android rom ... All devs bought X10
ilgreco112 said:
forget it! it will never be any android rom ... All devs bought X10
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that sucks..from reading a few threads it looked like it was going somewhere
Come on people, let's have hope. I think that there will be an android rom soon.
deflex_ said:
Come on people, let's have hope. I think that there will be an android rom soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree, also, how does it matter if its a ROM...what matters is that the phone heating/battery eating issue and Wifi...
In my case, i want the GPRS to be used for the weather..but that too isnt happening...i can use GPRS in the internet browser, but NOT in the weather update and Marketplace and app store....is there a way i can get this to work..
My understanding is that we cannot currently boot from NAND as there is no code to start the LCD panel, thus the need to start with HaRET.
A quick look in the the Blackstone forum suggests they won't do it until all functions (gps camera etc) are fully working.
in current state there is no point to run droid as primary system. battery runs out in few hours and functionality lefts much to be desired. do not let excitement to get you, first impression maybe good but whole thing is not so usable just jet. play whit it some days and you see it yourself.
well,camera and gps in android cannot work under most htc devices.so,if just for fun,these are not big problems.as for the heat,if in nand,it may not as hot as it is when all needed have to be found in sdcard,and probably faster.i think what is most important is that the chefs have had x10 and dont pay much attention to xperiod.
It seems that there is a WMKernel that is only 5MB large,If it works,Android may work in ROM,I ever tried to place and run it in rom,and finally failed because there will be a img file that contains files of Android will be storaged,a file about 256 MB ,For Orginall rom,The ROM space if not enough
howerver,I'll have hope about it
nerfg002 said:
It seems that there is a WMKernel that is only 5MB large,If it works,Android may work in ROM,I ever tried to place and run it in rom,and finally failed because there will be a img file that contains files of Android will be storaged,a file about 256 MB ,For Orginall rom,The ROM space if not enough
howerver,I'll have hope about it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so basically itll load the windows kernel (to recognize all the hardware) and then straight away get into the android kernel THROUGH wm kernel without installing the full wm OS?
that seems almost perfect because we wouldnt have to rely on the SD card as much..as long as we can have a stable android build that doesnt destroy the battery
I think putting android on flash is real ROM and nothing else.
I can't see point in having ROM that will just run haret from SD card. Then i rather just have WinMobile and launch haret manually.

[TMOUS][ROM][WWE][Nov.5.2010] UltraLite 370MB - INCLUDES ANDROID - THE EASY WAY!

ANDROID THE EASY WAY
NOW AVAILABLE!​
This Process will NOT be quick, but it’s easy and runs great!
Takes about 1/2 hr to set up the first time. It's an All-In-One Flash - Includes Stripped WM, Android, and Compatible Radio.​
Includes an AWESOME Android build, Desire Sense - BlueTopia v0.6, by cmylxgo.
FAST, STABLE, COOL as Heck! It is installed on top of my Super Ultra Lite ROM.
Booting into Android is controlled by My Android MortScript.​
ROM is based on latest T-Mobile 3.14 with almost everything removed. Not really worth booting into this ROM as it's just used to load Haret to get Android going.​
If you want to Flash this ROM then change the Android build to another, you may by replacing the Android Folders on your SD Card with your desired Build.​
Please read all below before starting.​
Download all files listed:
AutoFlash SuperSport Android BlueTopia 6.exe Grab All 4 Parts (MediaFire Link) Sorry so LARGE!! Only way to include everything. MediaFire allows Multiple downloads at a time. If you have a fast Connection, grab all 4 pieces at once.
Task29 provided by doloop.zip (Attached) If needed
HardSPL3 (Attached) If needed​
Unzip Task 29 and HardSPL3.​
Clean old Android and any Android helper folders OFF SD Card ie: Android, Media, FilesToBeDeleted, etc. For best results, backup your card, then re-format FAT32.​
Be sure your SD Card is re-installed in your HD2.​
Flash HardSPL3: Run HSPL3_PKG.exe, or be sure you’ve already done it in the past. Follow the instructions found HERE if you don’t know how. This will take about 3 mins.
Task29: Run Task29 provided by doloop.exe. This should be done before ANY Flash. If running Windows Vista or 7, you must Right Click and Run as Administrator. Be sure your phone is connected by USB before running and follow the instructions. It’s just like flashing a ROM. When it reaches 95%, press and HOLD the Volume Down button until it reboots into Bootloader Mode (Red, Green, Blue Screen). This will take about 2 mins.
Flash My ROM: Be sure your SD Card is installed in your HD2, then Flash your phone with my ROM. Be sure your phone is connected by USB then enter Bootloader Mode (Red, Green, Blue Screen) by Holding Down the Volume Down button while turning on phone. Run the file "AutoFlash_SuperSport_Android_BlueTopia_6.part1.exe". Follow the Instructions until your phone Reboots. This will take about 7 mins.
Allow windows to start up first time. This will take about 1 mins. DO NOT PRESS YES when prompted if you want to Boot into Android. That will come later. WARNING!!! DO NOT PRESS 'YES' YET! This will cause Android to NOT INSTALL! (If this happens, use the File Explorer to browse to the Windows Directory and Run the Cab "SuperSportAndroidBlueTopia6.cab". Be Sure to install it to your Storage Card, NOT Main Memory. Delete this CAB after installation completes.)
Android will now Silently Install to your SD Card. This will take about 4 minutes. Wait for the XDA UC Service End message and tap OK. YOU MUST WAIT FOR THIS. If it does not come up within about 5 mins, then something might have gone wrong. Flash Task29 again and start the ROM Flash over.
You can now Select Yes to the Window asking if you want to Boot into Android. (Future boots will ask this again. Just select YES to boot Android, or NO to stay in Windows.)
Android will now start up. You will see the Green hTC logo. Allow Android to set up the Data Space. This takes a LONG time! Be VERY Patient. Up to 10 mins the first time (Mine was 8 mins, Future boots after the first time boot quickly). It will sit on HTC logo for a LONG time, then blank screen, then final boot.
Future boots will now give you a prompt to allow Auto Boot into Android, or you can select to go into Windows if you are so inclined. You can also use Android-Ubuntu to change the Auto Boot settings to be quicker or slower, or boot into Windows if you prefer, although, there's not much there.
To boot back into Windows, Remove your SD Card and Reboot. To Flash another ROM, enter Bootloader - Hold down the Volume Down button while powering on your phone.
For my ROM WITH Android, Download above.
For those who just want the WM ROM Without Android Built in, Download Below.
This ROM has the following:
-Free RAM: 373.90MB WOW!!!
-Free Storage: 705.06 WOW
-Very Little left of Windows. It really is not usefull for anything except starting Android.
4 Flavors:
NO Radio NO BootScript - Best for those who already have an Android Compatible Radio and want to use their own Boot Program.
AutoFlash SuperSport Android Ready SuperUltraLite NO Radio NO BootScript.exe
With Radio NO BootScript - Best for those who still need the Radio, but want to use their own Boot Program.
AutoFlash SuperSport Android Ready SuperUltraLite w Radio NO BootScript.exe
NO Radio With BootScript - Best for those who have have an Android Compatible Radio but want to use my Simple "Yes/No" BootScript.
AutoFlash SuperSport Android Ready SuperUltraLite NO Radio w BootScript.exe
With Radio With BootScript - Best for those who need the Radio and Want to use my Simple "Yes/No" BootScript.
AutoFlash SuperSport Android Ready SuperUltraLite w Radio w BootScript.exe
To Do:
Create Cabs of future Android Updates that can easily be installed on top of old builds, or on top of my Android WM ROM.
Looking forward to it
BlueTopia is a nice choice.. Do you think you can post the winmo build?
And have you thought about using UC_NET instead? As you can see the progress bar during setup, might make it easier for some people that arent familiar with UC.. just a thought
Scabes24 said:
Looking forward to it
BlueTopia is a nice choice.. Do you think you can post the winmo build?
And have you thought about using UC_NET instead? As you can see the progress bar during setup, might make it easier for some people that arent familiar with UC.. just a thought
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will look into it. Any idea if it can force install to SD Card? That's the trouble I have with XDA_UC, I don't understand it enough to know how to silent install to the SD Card. I'd love to have a progress bar too.
I will post the WinMo build when I have it working properly. There's an issue with the AutoBoot function that I think might be due to the ROM being SO Stripped.
SuperSport said:
I will look into it. Any idea if it can force install to SD Card? That's the trouble I have with XDA_UC, I don't understand it enough to know how to silent install to the SD Card. I'd love to have a progress bar too.
I will post the WinMo build when I have it working properly. There's an issue with the AutoBoot function that I think might be due to the ROM being SO Stripped.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm.. I'm not sure actually, here's the thread for it. Maybe take a look at post 3 (portable commands) in that thread.
Here's a post from him on that topic, from a while ago though (July).
Really Dumb Noob Android Question
I have to use Outlook (corporate environment kind of thing...not Exchange). What is the best way to be able to synch Contacts and Appts. between Outlook and Android?
That is, so far, the only thing holding me back from giving Android a try. And this ROM appears to be a great way to try it out.
Thanks for any advice.
Can you please make a release of JUST the winmo rom? That way we can simply apply whatever android distro we wish to our SD card, and the download is smaller : D
BJohnM said:
I have to use Outlook (corporate environment kind of thing...not Exchange). What is the best way to be able to synch Contacts and Appts. between Outlook and Android?
That is, so far, the only thing holding me back from giving Android a try. And this ROM appears to be a great way to try it out.
Thanks for any advice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As far as I know, there is not a way to sync using WMDC. It needs to be done using HTC Sync, or using your google account. To use Google, you can set up an email account as an Exchange Account. Set the Server as m.google.com and tell it to sync your email, contacts, and calendar. For some reason, tasks do not work, so don't check them. If you set up Outlook AND your Phone to use the same Google Exchange account, then things will sync wirelessly WITHOUT having to connect to USB. Be aware this will likely use a little more battery if you allow it to sync often.
To use HTC Sync, download it from HERE and install it on your PC. Your phone will need to be set to HTC sync when you connect it to USB.
hereric said:
Can you please make a release of JUST the winmo rom? That way we can simply apply whatever android distro we wish to our SD card, and the download is smaller : D
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, when it is working properly, I'll post JUST the WinMo ROM. Currently, it's running just fine, I'm just having trouble getting it to AutoBoot when started.
Ok, I just added to the First Post a link for the WM ONLY ROM. This ROM does NOT include Android.
ROM Specs:
Free Ram - 373.90 MB WOW!!
Free Storage - 705.06 MB WOW
Includes Radio: 2.15.50.14
Download Size: 53.1 MB
Link Below also:
DOWNLOAD SuperUltraLite Android Ready ROM
Still touching up my All Inclusive Android ROM, Sorry for the Delay.
NOW AVAILABLE!!!
Please see First Post for Details.​
Out of curiousity, is it still possible to run a winmo program since the android os is just an overlay? If so, how?
Also, I tried youtube and the video is horribly choppy. audio is fine but video is stop and go ... stop and go... is this a known issue?
Any soft reset shortcut?
other note: tried running angry birds and it doesnt work.
marscandybars said:
Out of curiousity, is it still possible to run a winmo program since the android os is just an overlay? If so, how?
Also, I tried youtube and the video is horribly choppy. audio is fine but video is stop and go ... stop and go... is this a known issue?
Any soft reset shortcut?
other note: tried running angry birds and it doesnt work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually Android is not overlay on top of Windows. Windows starts haret, then shuts down completely, only leaving Android running. The only way is to reboot, and not boot into Android.
My YouTube is really smooth, but that's over WiFi. Haven't tried over gprs.
No soft reset that I know of. Only holding power button and shutting down.
After trying to run AngryBirds the first time, you must reboot back into Android and run it again. It will run second time around.
PS: one thing I've noticed is that after a couple reboot, things seem to get smoother.
Unfortunately, Android isn't perfect on the HD2 yet, but it's getting better every day...
I had to format the card twice and it started working ... yay
Holding the end button with this android OS gives the option to reboot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780525
I very much appreciate your hard work
marscandybars said:
I had to format the card twice and it started working ... yay
Holding the end button with this android OS gives the option to reboot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780525
I very much appreciate your hard work
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That brings up a good point. If anyone wants, you can delete the Android off the SD Card and replace it with your favorite flavor. The Boot Script should still work, as long as you place the Android build into the folder Android with CLRCAD.exe and haret.exe in that same Android folder, not a sub folder.
awesome rom thank you,...runs very smoothley and first one where everything has worked!! as soon as funds come in you will be my first donation..
only problem is batterylife life and data speed i live in socal what radio will u reccomend im on tmobil network . and 2 youtube is very choppy unless i use wifi.
blink 182 said:
awesome rom thank you,...runs very smoothley and first one where everything has worked!! as soon as funds come in you will be my first donation..
only problem is batterylife life and data speed i live in socal what radio will u reccomend im on tmobil network . and 2 youtube is very choppy unless i use wifi.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please keep in mind that the Android Build is NOT mine. Please donate to cmylxgo as he is the one who put the Android build together. I cooked the WM ROM, added the Radio, added his Android ROM, and created the BootScript. I just wanted to come up with a way for people to try it that just worked, so I put it all together in one easy to flash package.
Yes, there are still some issues with running Android on WM, but it's slowly getting better. cmylxgo has mentioned a new Android Build coming up shortly. I'll see if I can add it to this thread when it's released.
I've heard about YouTube by a couple of you now. I don't know yet what that is. Not sure if it's My ROM, or the Android Build, but when I find out, I'll try to create a fix.
EDIT: The radio on the first post is the only one I've tried with Android. I'm on ATT, so not sure how that compares to you.
thanks for this simple guide.. *so simple, even a caveman can do it* noob question, how do i restore the phone to factory settings incase I need to send it in?
hd2_2010 said:
thanks for this simple guide.. *so simple, even a caveman can do it* noob question, how do i restore the phone to factory settings incase I need to send it in?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hehe, I like that. To revert, you would need to flash the HardSPL back to 2.08 (Use HardSPL 3 and select the 2.08 version), then flash the Stock ROM back on. As far as Android goes, just delete it off the SD Card. My ROM simply copies Android from the ROM to the SD Card and sets up links.
Does the camera work in this one? I really want to ditch WinMo and go to Android, but I want to first be sure everything works. I have read in some other threads that camera support is not working, which seems like it would be a deal breaker for many people.
jasonatr0n said:
Does the camera work in this one? I really want to ditch WinMo and go to Android, but I want to first be sure everything works. I have read in some other threads that camera support is not working, which seems like it would be a deal breaker for many people.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, it does. That's a deal breaker for me too. I do have occasional data connection problems, but I'm almost always on WiFi, so it has not been a huge deal for me yet. It sounds like cmylxgo is working on the data issue along with other fixes with his Android Build. I will likely update this ROM when that happens. I'll also post instructions for those who do not want to flash the ROM again and just want to update their Android Build.
everything works perfectly, I just flashed it 3 days ago and I'm very pleased so far..... and belive me I've almost tried everything around here.... Thank you Super Sport to put all this togheter.

Completely remove WM and use Android?

Excuse me if this is discussed before. Tried to search but found nothing.
I have heard from a friend that LEO users are finally able to get rid of WM and use Android as the only OS in their phones. Is this also possible for Topaz?
Best Regards,
Suat
It's possible for LEO, but not yet for Topaz. Maybe some day...
However, if Android isn't stable on the SD card, it's certainly not going to be stable in NAND. So I think we have some ways to go still on the SD card builds before we can think about wiping WinMo...
Thanks for the fast reply.

Categories

Resources