I'd like to start a list of programs that work and custimazation tips so that we can all get the most out of our webtop!
Visit this thread to get full Ubuntu working on the webtop:
[MOD] Full Ubuntu on the Atrix (now fully automated)
Before installing or modifying make sure that you don't (or any dependencies) upgrade: (as per Sogarth)
Be careful upgrading any of the -mot/~mot packages, as that can break functionality. I'm still compiling a list of which packages can be upgraded versus which can be left alone.
Can be upgraded with loss of functionality:
libnautilus-extension1-1:2.26.2-0ubuntu1-mot1
nautilus-1:2.26.2-0ubuntu1-mot1
nautilus-data-1:2.26.2-0ubuntu1-mot1
Upgrading these packages plus at least one additional package I've not yet fully identified breaks viewing mountable storage and the ability to unmount it.
xserver-xorg-core-2:1.6.0-0ubuntu14
Using the stock xserver-xorg-core 2:1.6.0-0ubuntu14 that's already installed without recovering /usr/bin/Xorg appears to lead to a loss of the status bar at the top. This particular issue is now handled by the script.
Cannot be upgraded:
gtk2-engines-1:2.18.1-0ubuntu1~mot1
This breaks aiw (Android In Window) so that there's no frame around the window and it can no longer be manipulated in any way.
xscreensaver-5.10-6-motorola1?
xscreensaver-data-5.10-6-motorola1?
xscreensaver-data-extra-5.10-6-motorola1?
This will likely break displaying aiw (Android In Window) as the unlocking mechanism for the screensaver. Still needs to be tested.
Working Ubuntu Apps:
LXTerminal
eog
Pidgin (SOUND! install gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio)
GIMP
gedit
Transmission
gnome-panel (switch between webtop and gnome-session mouse to top of screen)
VLC works (tested MKV video, music a little choppy)
rdesktop
nano
joe
synergy
vnc
axe
lxpanel
openssh-client
AbiWord
Rhythmbox (thread )
xfce4
NOT working:
Open Office
working on gnome-panel issue
but it does have more indepth settings. like display mouse keyboard etc
so you were able to get a higher display res than 1280x768?
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so you were able to get a higher display res than 1280x768?
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yes, but this wasnt due to gnome-panel.
i'm currently running at 1280x1024, but only due to limitation of my monitor right now. i get the 1366x768 at the home monitor.
i'm guessing your on an hdtv, doesnt do 1080p yet, so it drops down?
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yes, but this wasnt due to gnome-panel.
i'm currently running at 1280x1024, but only due to limitation of my monitor right now. i get the 1366x768 at the home monitor.
i'm guessing your on an hdtv, doesnt do 1080p yet, so it drops down?
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How'd you get higher res?
I see what you'rr asking now. Maybe its because i'm using hdmi to DVI? I haven't done any mod on this. It does it automatically choosing highest resolution. Could be wrong tho.. I can see 720p only being available if your on an hdtv.
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I was going to do this when I got my dock tomorrow.
I had two concepts of app lists to test.
The Jaunty list from ubuntu
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Ubuntu_Addon_Applications
and the top 100 list
http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/top-100-of-the-best-useful-opensource-applications/
The rdesktop also working
joe, synergy, vnc, axe all work
Am I able to write to the 'internal' storage. I know we have limited space, but can we write outside of the webtop environment?
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edounn said:
I see what you'rr asking now. Maybe its because i'm using hdmi to DVI? I haven't done any mod on this. It does it automatically choosing highest resolution. Could be wrong tho.. I can see 720p only being available if your on an hdtv.
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no, you're right, you do have 1280 x 1024, and it's available to select as your res if you click the display settings (even on an HDTV). it just doesn't help any for HDTVs since it's a non-widescreen res.
Anyone have any luck with moonlight? I have tried but can't get it to work.
You guys think this would be powerful enough to run a Virtual PC program like parallels or virtualbox?
liranc said:
You guys think this would be powerful enough to run a Virtual PC program like parallels or virtualbox?
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maybe in 2.4 when there is full multi core support, or if that 1.5ghz overclock kernel extension ever comes to fruition. but what you're thinking is exactly what I'm hoping for
if I can get Internet Explorer to work via virtual box or even somehow through IETab in FF via IE running in WINE my life would be complete as the majority of websites I use for work are IE only
I can tell you that the iputils and nmap packages work perfectly, so does John the Ripper along with openssh
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maybe in 2.4 when there is full multi core support, or if that 1.5ghz overclock kernel extension ever comes to fruition. but what you're thinking is exactly what I'm hoping for
if I can get Internet Explorer to work via virtual box or even somehow through IETab in FF via IE running in WINE my life would be complete as the majority of websites I use for work are IE only
I can tell you that the iputils and nmap packages work perfectly, so does John the Ripper along with openssh
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I want to buy the Atrix, I'm on an ancient Android(i won't say which to save embarrassment lol). It really seems that it'll be a perfect fit for me especially if they have a virtual PC on it... mainly because of either browser support or having actual Microsoft Office on there
This will probably be one of the most powerful phones for a while so I might as well just get it. The 1GB SDRAM vs 512 of similar dual cores that have come out is a huge plus.
I was also thinking of installing virtual box but using windows 7 embedded as it is a much lighter footprint.
I am basically waiting for a CWM fiel that will run on 1.57 gingerblur.
Then I will start messing around with this.
Pretty sure any of the virtualization apps require an x86 chip.
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Pretty sure any of the virtualization apps require an x86 chip.
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I am afraid you are right about the x86 part....
I will try qemu then
http://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...nning-windows-under-the-qemu-emulator-320569/
If it doesn't work with win7 embedded then I will do it with xp embedded.
I want to be the first on youtube with windows running on a nvidia tegra 2 cpu based atrix.
Did you guys know that in games if you hold one finger down on the trackpad while in webtop mode, you can press the on screen buttons? I tried it in samurai 2 and dungeon defenders. Its hard to find the buttons but makes games much more playable.
Can someone tell me if this works with the laptop dock?
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I am afraid you are right about the x86 part....
I will try qemu then
http://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...nning-windows-under-the-qemu-emulator-320569/
If it doesn't work with win7 embedded then I will do it with xp embedded.
I want to be the first on youtube with windows running on a nvidia tegra 2 cpu based atrix.
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From my research qemu hasn't been ported to arm.
Also windows CE is the only arm windows availible. I don't think it will work on tegra.
I also don't see wine working on arm ubuntu for a long time. Because it will have to emulate x86 for windows stuff.
Windows 8 will support both arm and x86. However, why do that when you have a better os right now.
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Hello Everyone,
I have had my Droid 4 since launch and have been pretty much too busy for customization until now. I was able to get it rooted and everything thanks to the help of these forums, but there is one key feature I am hoping for that I have so far not been able to find a solution for anywhere here or at droidforums or with general Google searches.
I have a lapdock for my Droid, (stock Gingerbread but rooted) and I would love to be able to open a full resolution RDP session to my Windows 7 computer at home. I found that some people were able to install and run a Ubuntu image ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1509836&highlight=lapdock ) however they still needed to access the GUI with a VNC client. As long as the GUI is accessed with an Android VNC app, when you use the app full screen on the lapdock it just interpolates the image (as it is running at the Droid 4's resolution of 960x540)
I know there was success with the Atrix with webtop2sd and installing applications like rdesktop to the Webtop environment itself. Has anyone tried this with the Droid 4?
If there are any other tips or tricks to get a full resolution RDP session running in Webtop I would greatly appreciate them. It also looks like once we get a ICS rom with HDMI support that it would probably work fine too, as it looks like Webtop 3.0 just gives a full resolution tablety interface instead of the desktop one, which is fine since all I want is full resolution RDP and if Android itself is full reolution it should work fine with an Android RDP client.
Thanks in advance,
Legomaniac
Stupid question, but have you tried a remote desktop app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xtralogic.android.rdpclient
i use this and it works fine, but i'm not using an docks or cables. Oh and there are free apps, i've just been using this one forever
Legomaniac said:
...when you use the app full screen on the lapdock it just interpolates the image (as it is running at the Droid 4's resolution of 960x540)
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I am well aware of the fact that there are RDP clients for Android, I have one installed and use it when I am not docked with the Lapdock. The problem is that all Android apps that are run fullscreen with the lapdock get interpolated from 960x540 to 1366x768. This produces a very fuzzy RDP session that isn't conducive to getting work done.
As I mentioned above, the Atrix community seems to have had luck with getting an ARM version of rdesktop running in Webtop. I am just hoping there is someone in the Droid 4 community who has had luck in the same area.
Legomaniac said:
It also looks like once we get a ICS rom with HDMI support that it would probably work fine too, as it looks like Webtop 3.0 just gives a full resolution tablety interface instead of the desktop one, which is fine since all I want is full resolution RDP and if Android itself is full reolution it should work fine with an Android RDP client.
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I have not tried this with a docking station, but .215 ICS leak's webtop works in higher resolution than mirror mode on both my TV and projector.
If you can't wait for the ICS version, I recommend installing the leak. I did and now this phone is all I wanted it to be. I'm not even going to bother installing the final ICS version anymore, because it'd only be risky in case they decide to block some features (especially important for me, being a European user).
Wait, so the .215 ICS leak supports HDMI out and works with lapdocks?
If so this is probably exactly what I need.
Legomaniac said:
Wait, so the .215 ICS leak supports HDMI out and works with lapdocks?
If so this is probably exactly what I need.
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It supports HDMI with webtop 3 for sure, but don't have a lapdock myself for testing. Since lapdock is just HDMI + USB, I don't see any reason why it won't though!
Well, last night I installed the ICS .215 leak, and I must say, I really like Webtop 3.0! (plus ICS is just way sexier than Gingerbread)
Thanks for letting me know about HDMI working with the leak Sjaakbanaan. I had read somewhere in the forums that HDMI wasn't working, but i'm guessing that was quite an old post from when the very first ICS leak came out.
I love how apps change into "Webtop mode" which is essentially just their tablet layout. Being able to use all of the Android apps at full resolution on the lapdock is just awesome. I have a Microsoft Bluetrak USB mouse with a micro adapter that I just leave plugged into one of the Lapdock's USB ports. It is amazing! I am going to be using this setup on campus all through this year for taking notes and viewing slides in class (plus maybe some Facebook chat, lol)
Now the only issue is finding an RDP client for Android that doesn't need me to hold down the mouse button to move the cursor on the remote session. (since most So far I have only tried Teamviewer, which isn't actual RDP in the first place, i'm guessing there is a client somewhere in the Play market that is optimized for mouse input however.
Does anybody know of one of the top of their heads?
Thanks again Sjaakbanaan!
You're welcome!
Legomaniac said:
Now the only issue is finding an RDP client for Android that doesn't need me to hold down the mouse button to move the cursor on the remote session. (since most So far I have only tried Teamviewer, which isn't actual RDP in the first place, i'm guessing there is a client somewhere in the Play market that is optimized for mouse input however.
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I usually use an app called 'Remote RDP' for real RDP connections (it has a free version), but don't remember if it has the exact input mode that you like. On my Prime I usually prefer Splashtop (built-in version) instead of actual RDP
I realize this is a dumb question but I haven't been able to find the answer. If I install Android on a Raspberry Pi attached to my TV, how do I control it? Is there a way to use a regular remote control?
There is always the wireless Keyboard and Mouse option.
I believe you can also use multi-touch touchpads such as Wacom Bamboo.
LiFE1688 said:
There is always the wireless Keyboard and Mouse option.
I believe you can also use multi-touch touchpads such as Wacom Bamboo.
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Thanks for the reply.I was hoping to use a media center remote or something similar, but I assume none of the drivers will work.
If you want to control your RPi using a remote I wouldn't install Android (The current builds aren't that stable and are buggy at best). I would recommend taking a look at Raspbmc, it's Xbmc for the RPi and should be compatible with a variety of media remote controls.
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You can Use a Normal Mouse (And Keyboard)
Xbmc isn't really what I'm looking for. If a keyboard and mouse work, maybe someone will figure out how to use a remote.
When android is more polished I think you will have options
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lithium630 said:
Xbmc isn't really what I'm looking for. If a keyboard and mouse work, maybe someone will figure out how to use a remote.
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What are you looking for then? Since you want to drive it using an IR remote (I'm guessing), that typically indicates some sort of media center.
METDeath said:
What are you looking for then? Since you want to drive it using an IR remote (I'm guessing), that typically indicates some sort of media center.
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I run Windows Media Center on all my tv's with the Ceton Companion app to control it. Currently the app does not support streaming live tv but it is supposed to be in the works. When it finally supports streaming to android, I could build a small raspberry pi box and use it as an extender when I'm out of town. If nothing else I would finally have an excuse to buy one.
lithium630 said:
I run Windows Media Center on all my tv's with the Ceton Companion app to control it. Currently the app does not support streaming live tv but it is supposed to be in the works. When it finally supports streaming to android, I could build a small raspberry pi box and use it as an extender when I'm out of town. If nothing else I would finally have an excuse to buy one.
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this is something like what I want, too. I would ultimately like to have an HTPC running android that supports video streaming, local media playback, live tv and streaming of everything above to all my connected devices.....like xbmc, but also with an option to use it as an android device when necessary. I don't want to have to use a mouse and keyboard for it either since my tv is too far away from the couch for that to be a reasonable option.....but mouse and kb support are still necessary for some things. IMHO, the best possible option would be a logitech remote that also has an on-screen pointer and motion controls like a wii remote has.
......come to think of it, an app supporting a wii remote to control android functions wouldn't exactly be a bad solution!!
you can use raspbmc instead of android if you are willing to use it as media center. it also has broader possibilities for choosing a remote.
http://www.raspbmc.com/wiki/user/configuring-remotes/
but i prefer this one most
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.xbmc.android.remote
enjoy !
I use a regular remote from my tv when i use raspmbc since it supports cec. The xbmc remote most people use through their Android device is specific for xbmc, so it wouldnt do much good with anything else. Droidmote isnt the prettiest but its functions well. Theres a lot of apps for remotes, that even take advantage of voice and nfc. So when Android is running stable enough, you will be able to take your pic. If your not interested in embedded hardware or other similar usages for the pi, you could always get a g box midnight or minix neo g4 or 5. There all dual core and come rooted with firmware updates that will give you JB and xbmc. There is a quad core one that is out or coming out and will come with JB and full hardware acceleration.
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In raspbmc u can use u tv pilot to control xbmc.
Nizda1 said:
IDroidmote isnt the prettiest but its functions well.
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You can also use Tablet Remote
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tournesol.tabletremote
or LANmote
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=lanmote
Yatse is a damn good remote for xbmc, it syncs your library list to your device, so you can scroll on device, links to imdb for movies,you can change audio tracks,dl subtitles, and all sorts of cool stuff. And it's free
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You can already stream to your ras pi from windows or wherever, I like prefer my tablet or phone. Download the app bubbleupnp from the playstore and it will populate a library of videos, music whatever you have on the device by selecting it as the local renderer and it will see the raspi then press play. Also some android apps like youtube for ex.you can just share it to the app and it will play on your tv connected to the pi. If I want a remote I use the official xmbc remote or if im using a win box to get the media ill use unified remote app. Which then gets cool cause you can use voice and all kinds of stuff.
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I have just ordered my RaspberryPi, and I plan on using it for below.
1. Connect my powered 2TB external HDD to it and make a NAS
2. Use it as a torrent client
3. Play movies on the HDD using XBMC
4. Run lightppd to share my files on the internet.
Coming to my questions
1. Would it be possible to install the distro on a separate partition one the HDD? I plan to format the HDD using ext4.
2. Will the little machine be able to handle the load of all 4 tasks?
3. Should I use NFS over SMB? I plan to access the files of the share on Linux, Windows and Android.
Please let me know your thoughts on this.
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suku_patel_22 said:
I have just ordered my RaspberryPi, and I plan on using it for below.
1. Connect my powered 2TB external HDD to it and make a NAS
2. Use it as a torrent client
3. Play movies on the HDD using XBMC
4. Run lightppd to share my files on the internet.
Coming to my questions
1. Would it be possible to install the distro on a separate partition one the HDD? I plan to format the HDD using ext4.
2. Will the little machine be able to handle the load of all 4 tasks?
3. Should I use NFS over SMB? I plan to access the files of the share on Linux, Windows and Android.
Please let me know your thoughts on this.
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1: I would use a bootloader like BerryBoot to install the distro on the hard drive, I think its possible, Ive only installed on a flash drive and SD Card, but I dont see why it wouldnt work.
2. It might be able to handle it but cant say for sure. On mine I am using XBMC and streaming movies from my desktop and I am using nearly 400mb of RAM but I think the CPU load is okay.
3. Not sure on this one, I use SMB but my laptop is broken so I dont have linux running on any of my machines, but Windows and Android works just fine, and I actually use my Nexus 7 as a remote for XBMC.
ZachOlauson said:
1: I would use a bootloader like BerryBoot to install the distro on the hard drive, I think its possible, Ive only installed on a flash drive and SD Card, but I dont see why it wouldnt work.
2. It might be able to handle it but cant say for sure. On mine I am using XBMC and streaming movies from my desktop and I am using nearly 400mb of RAM but I think the CPU load is okay.
3. Not sure on this one, I use SMB but my laptop is broken so I dont have linux running on any of my machines, but Windows and Android works just fine, and I actually use my Nexus 7 as a remote for XBMC.
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SMB is compatible with linux and Windows natively, however if you intend to stream HD video at all NFS would be better. My NAS uses both, NFS to stream to my pi running xbmc, and samba for windows machines/android devices. I also running a upnp server for remote streaming to my phone.
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Samba has slow speeds on the pi typically 7-8Mbps compared to the usual 25-40 i get from my drive.
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Samba has slow speeds on the pi typically 7-8Mbps compared to the usual 25-40 i get from my drive.
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I found samba had lag on HD vids. I still use samba on my windows and android devices, buti never stream HD to them
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The Pi's 'ROM/BIOS' boot code attempts to bootstrap from the SD. If there is nothing where it expects it to be it won't start.
You would need some code to transfer startup to the external hard disk.
AFAIK, the raspberry pi can boot partitions from an external USB drive, what it actually boots is the GPU executable which loads a kernel, then it can bootstrap an USB HDD.
For the SMB or NFS matter, NFS usually provides higher throughput than SMB, and Windows can mount NFS based hosts, I'd go for that if you plan to see some performance.
As said, NFS have smaller overhead than SMB. So use that if you can.
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i have a Samba server and i can Stream Full HD whit no problems (maybe a littel slow in the Begining nothing more) 1TB 2.0USB HDD NTFS
So overall NFS is better than Samba?
Yes, but samba is easier to setup across platforms
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I have just a 256 MB model, and I'll use it for torrent+file share+XBMC. Which client for torrenting will you use otherwise? (transmission-daemon or rTorrent?)
Not sure, whichever gives me ability to push torrents from my pc.
My pi arrives next week.
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You should give transmission-daemon and transmission gui (transgui) a try. You can push files via the Internet if you have your port forwarding set up correctly.
I have a slightly different setup that has Apache providing ssl for transmission-daemon
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You can also set it up with transdroid on Android. I believe transdroid also works with r Torrent.
NFS is faster than SMB. If you are reasonably Linux-savvy, you should have no issues setting it up. I serve NFS to my Win 7 torrent box from OpenIndiana. Setting up Win7 as an NFS client is a bit more complicated.
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Endoroid said:
I found samba had lag on HD vids. I still use samba on my windows and android devices, buti never stream HD to them
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I hope you're talking about megabits per second. You can get 7~8 Megabytes per second with SAMBA and you can get the full 12 megabytes (100megabits) per second with NFS, but never more than that.
In most cases, samba is enough, but I've seen two or three videos with imense video and sound quality that SAMBA simply can't keep up. NFS saves the day. The 100 megabit ethernet can be a real bottleneck though.
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NFS is faster than SMB. If you are reasonably Linux-savvy, you should have no issues setting it up. I serve NFS to my Win 7 torrent box from OpenIndiana. Setting up Win7 as an NFS client is a bit more complicated.
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Setting up the NFS is really quite a bit of trouble for a first-timer. Windows doesn't play well you don't have the no_root_squash option on the server. After that though, all l you need is a bat script with "mount <NFS_SERVER_IP>://<SHARE>/<FOLDER> <DRIVE>:". Don't forget to enable NFS client first.
Either that or use nekodrive and dokan.
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i have a Samba server and i can Stream Full HD whit no problems (maybe a littel slow in the Begining nothing more) 1TB 2.0USB HDD NTFS
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yeah same here samba runs very smooth for my 3D/1080p movie streams.
I recommend changing up the settings(disable firewall etc) increase buffer size and overclock.
i prefer nfs for hd movies, there is also a windows nfs client :laugh:
As I read I must give a try for NFS.
There were bechmarktests done by a user in the OpenELEC forum.
As you can see the difference isn't that great:
FTP was faster than SMB by 1.57%
NFS was faster than FTP by 5.65%
And finally NFS was faster than SMB by 7.22%
Hello i'm kind of new to this so please don't be to harsh .
To run Android TV, android 5.0 would need to be ported first thus me titling this "Is it Possible to Android 5.0 / Android TV on Raspberry Pi 2?" However my main subject / me making this post is to see if Android TV on Pi 2 is feasible.
I was thinking would be possible to run Android TV on the new Raspberry Pi? I ask this because the specs of the new Pi 2 are quite impressive and I can totally see this becoming popular as I can imagine a lot of people would go out and buy a Pi just to run android tv on it (me being one of them) . This would be great as not only would it provide a large install base for Android TV (which in turn up the developer support) it would make it so almost anyone can have a cheap chrome cast type of device with a functional GUI. I don't know if this is possible but doing some research I can't see any reason why it would't work and it would make for such a cool and inexpensive android tv box! :good:
Possible short comings would be:
Lag due to low clock speed
Lack of a remote (possible use of a bluetooth controller or a smart phone app to control the box using wifi)
Poor Gaming capabilities?
Probably a few more.
Thomas_Bam said:
Hello i'm kind of new to this so please don't be to harsh .
To run Android TV, android 5.0 would need to be ported first thus me titling this "Is it Possible to Android 5.0 / Android TV on Raspberry Pi 2?" However my main subject / me making this post is to see if Android TV on Pi 2 is feasible.
I was thinking would be possible to run Android TV on the new Raspberry Pi? I ask this because the specs of the new Pi 2 are quite impressive and I can totally see this becoming popular as I can imagine a lot of people would go out and buy a Pi just to run android tv on it (me being one of them) . This would be great as not only would it provide a large install base for Android TV (which in turn up the developer support) it would make it so almost anyone can have a cheap chrome cast type of device with a functional GUI. I don't know if this is possible but doing some research I can't see any reason why it would't work and it would make for such a cool and inexpensive android tv box! :good:
Possible short comings would be:
Lag due to low clock speed
Lack of a remote (possible use of a bluetooth controller or a smart phone app to control the box using wifi)
Poor Gaming capabilities?
Probably a few more.
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My research indicates this would be difficult, however, if a Chromecast type Media Center is what you're looking fo, I have good news. There are 2 OS downloads that are essentially XBMC ports for Pi 2.
http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
I bought a Pi 2 today and am waiting for them to provide a delivery date. I intend to use it with one of these XBMC OS'S.
Thomas_Bam said:
Hello i'm kind of new to this so please don't be to harsh .
To run Android TV, android 5.0 would need to be ported first thus me titling this "Is it Possible to Android 5.0 / Android TV on Raspberry Pi 2?" However my main subject / me making this post is to see if Android TV on Pi 2 is feasible.
I was thinking would be possible to run Android TV on the new Raspberry Pi? I ask this because the specs of the new Pi 2 are quite impressive and I can totally see this becoming popular as I can imagine a lot of people would go out and buy a Pi just to run android tv on it (me being one of them) . This would be great as not only would it provide a large install base for Android TV (which in turn up the developer support) it would make it so almost anyone can have a cheap chrome cast type of device with a functional GUI. I don't know if this is possible but doing some research I can't see any reason why it would't work and it would make for such a cool and inexpensive android tv box! :good:
Possible short comings would be:
Lag due to low clock speed
Lack of a remote (possible use of a bluetooth controller or a smart phone app to control the box using wifi)
Poor Gaming capabilities?
Probably a few more.
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Probably the same conclusion as this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/raspberry-pi/rd-android-4-4-4-t2816952
XBMC for RPi already supports CEC through the HDMI... So most of your remote problems are solved there. A wireless Bluetooth keyboard/touchpad also solves the problem.
Yes, I can confirm that, I'm using osmc(aka raspbmc) for more that one and a half years and the performance is a quite good, even if I have allot of other things running on my pi...
CEC is supported, but be careful if you own a LG webos tv you should not us this, cause will slow down your tv and make it unresponsive, as far as I know only webos TVs are afected(2014 models).
But anyhow if raspbmc has a good performance on the old rpi B, I think should perform way faster on the new pi2.
I'm planning also to upgrade my pi..
From what is being reported on the Kodi forums, the Pi2 does very well with it. There is already a branch of OpenElec for it, and I think also one for RaspBMC/OSMC with a lot of the add-ons under recompilation during this week to give full support. But it's certainly getting full support from the dev community there, which is great.
But as noted even the Pi1 does very well anyway with Kodi, my overclocked B+ with OpenElec 5.0.1 works fine with it and no issues at all that I encounter day to day. Nice and smooth, and fully supports CEC from my (dumb) LG HDTV. And if you prefer, there's decent remote control for Android/iOS (Yatse) and web-based remote built into Kodi itself.
I'd certainly recommend it as an excellent alternative to AndroidTV.
The Android porting issue is the lack of graphics chip support
I'm wanting to see this as well, namely because Android TV also offers direct support for Netflix, Hulu, Plex, and others. While you can potentially get these with an xbmc based build, it will not work well with remotes.
Rakeesh_j said:
I'm wanting to see this as well, namely because Android TV also offers direct support for Netflix, Hulu, Plex, and others. While you can potentially get these with an xbmc based build, it will not work well with remotes.
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The Pi supports CEC, so if you've got a suitable TV and the two are connected by HDMI then you're fine to go. I run my OpenElec set-up on my Pi1 using the remote of my LG dumb TV, and it's a doddle. It does have a wireless keyboard and mouse connected to it for it's other life as a Raspbian programming box for the kids (Scratch/Minecraft/Python) but I don't recall the last time I took up either when it was running in its OpenElec identity...
There is certainly an implementation of Plex for OpenElec. Not sure about the others, as I don't use any of them.
DarrenHill said:
The Pi supports CEC, so if you've got a suitable TV and the two are connected by HDMI then you're fine to go. I run my OpenElec set-up on my Pi1 using the remote of my LG dumb TV, and it's a doddle. It does have a wireless keyboard and mouse connected to it for it's other life as a Raspbian programming box for the kids (Scratch/Minecraft/Python) but I don't recall the last time I took up either when it was running in its OpenElec identity...
There is certainly an implementation of Plex for OpenElec. Not sure about the others, as I don't use any of them.
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That isn't the problem. The remote itself works ok, and the device can see the events. The problem is the individual applications require different key bindings. I've done all of that crap where you configure different profiles and whatnot to bind different remote presses depending on the app, but it breaks all the time and maintaining it sucks balls.
Not doing that again. It's better just to have one cohesive interface that each app responds to identically. Android TV provides exactly that.
Two years ago, tried a hand at Android 2.3 on the Raspberry Pi after seeing an article on Cnet.
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Utterly terrible failure. They have then proceeded to pulled the article down.
YES, it's possible, GUI at 10-15fps with SW rendering. Slow but useable.
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I don't understand. Broadcom has released the sourcecode for the gpu including register-level documentation.
http://blog.broadcom.com/chip-desig...ves-developers-keys-to-the-videocore-kingdom/
The downloads are at the bottom of the http://www.broadcom.com/support/ page.
ddfault said:
I don't understand. Broadcom has released the sourcecode for the gpu including register-level documentation.
http://blog.broadcom.com/chip-desig...ves-developers-keys-to-the-videocore-kingdom/
The downloads are at the bottom of the http://www.broadcom.com/support/ page.
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Actually, the problem is not that(the stack was adapted to GNU/Linux, see github.com/simonjhall/challenge but with memcpys), it is just that it depends on a Linux 3.0 kernel driver for full functionnality(HW layers). That driver is still not ported to modern kernels(the official RPi kernel is 3.19!)
It is fully doable. On IRC with the primary developer of Replicant, he said that porting Mesa/VC4 with adding Android support would take a few time with mostly buildsystem changes .(he ported llvmpipe)
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I would like to use Android version 4.2.2 Jellybean! on my RP2+, Please understand i don't really quite understand everything you guys are saying, I just would like a straight answer, can it be done? My pi is version 2+ 512MB ram not the four core version.
THANKS!
Clancey A
tyrian869 said:
I would like to use Android version 4.2.2 Jellybean! on my RP2+, Please understand i don't really quite understand everything you guys are saying, I just would like a straight answer, can it be done? My pi is version 2+ 512MB ram not the four core version.
THANKS!
Clancey A
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No. Check back in 6 months, maybe someone will have Lollipop running on it by then!
Android TV on Raspberry Pi 2... That's a dream...
Well, I have a question...
Got the Raspberry Pi 2 with 512MB of ram, and I've tested the beta Android found here, and it's usable (just usable, it has lag, and many things can be done to it to became perfect). Why doesn't anyone try to port that Android on Raspberry Pi 2? Now we have a 900Mhz Quad Core CPU and double the ram...
Could you please provide mode details?
What' the issue with the Wi-Fi?
How is the general performance of the Lollipop?
Do you have Play Store installed?
khrystyan27 said:
Could you please provide mode details?
What' the issue with the Wi-Fi?
How is the general performance of the Lollipop?
Do you have Play Store installed?
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"not worth much without hardware acceleration", i would say its totally useless.
Made a simple script that changes vnc desktop server resolution to the resolution of the Tab S8 Ultra, since you cant specify the resolution from Android.
Now you can do work on your PC from your Tab S8 Ultra in full screen not zoomed in or cropped.
How to use:
1.Create a custom resolution of 2960x1848 on your PC.
2.Place the exe on your taskbar.
3.Login to your PC from your Tab S8 Ultra and run the exe.
When you disconnect from the vnc the resolution should return to default on your PC.
Troubleshooting:
1. If you get a blackscreen make sure to set Use default color settings In Graphics control panel.
2.Also try setting Gsync to Full screen mode.
Tested on Windows 11 running TinyVNC Server with VNC Viewer - Remote Desktop app by RealVNC Limited.
If you run Windows you can use Windows built in remote desktop function and then use Microsoft remote app to connect to the pc/server. It will give full resolution
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If you run Windows you can use Windows built in remote desktop function and then use Microsoft remote app to connect to the pc/server. It will give full resolution
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Windows remote desktop has high latency and not as clear as running a vnc. Also it's slower, doesnt enable D3D drivers. doesn't scale properly.
That's why i prefer vnc.
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Windows remote desktop has high latency and not as clear as running a vnc. Also it's slower, doesnt enable D3D drivers. doesn't scale properly.
That's why i prefer vnc.
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Disagree used it and i got hardly any latency on mine.
It's always good to have options. I wish Google would finally allow setting up Chrome Remote Desktop as a host on Android, but oh well.
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Windows remote desktop has high latency and not as clear as running a vnc. Also it's slower, doesnt enable D3D drivers. doesn't scale properly.
That's why i prefer vnc.
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Microsoft RDP is factually faster with lower latency because it doesn't need to send across an entire video image. It is able to update only the parts of the screen that are being changed.
Also VNC compression algorithms are outdated and slow compared to newer tech like Parsec and nVidia gamestream through Moonlight. 30ms latency over internet on Moonlight beats the pants off VNC and RDP and it also has full game support as well as full S-Pen support. Parsec is a somewhat close second.
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Microsoft RDP is factually faster with lower latency because it doesn't need to send across an entire video image. It is able to update only the parts of the screen that are being changed.
Also VNC compression algorithms are outdated and slow compared to newer tech like Parsec and nVidia gamestream through Moonlight. 30ms latency over internet on Moonlight beats the pants off VNC and RDP and it also has full game support as well as full S-Pen support. Parsec is a somewhat close second.
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Tested all of the solutions you mentioned none of them work properly with the Tab S8 Ultra Keyboard Book Cover.
While gamestream and parsec are fast they are not meant for remote desktop and work in general.
With Moonlight you can't even control the mouse.
I just went back to Microsoft RDP since it has the least issues but not perfect.
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Tested all of the solutions you mentioned none of them work properly with the Tab S8 Ultra Keyboard Book Cover.
While gamestream and parsec are fast they are not meant for remote desktop and work in general.
With Moonlight you can't even control the mouse.
I just went back to Microsoft RDP since it has the least issues but not perfect.
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Hmm maybe keyboard cover is limited as I have used both a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and a third party keyboard cover. Go into moonlight settings and select the cursor mode you wish to use. Parsec is definitely meant for remote desktop and working.
But either way I am glad you left VNC, because out of all the solutions I meantioned it is the worst. Moonlight being the best, but I guess the keyboard cover is buggy with it
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Hmm maybe keyboard cover is limited as I have used both a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and a third party keyboard cover. Go into moonlight settings and select the cursor mode you wish to use. Parsec is definitely meant for remote desktop and working.
But either way I am glad you left VNC, because out of all the solutions I meantioned it is the worst. Moonlight being the best, but I guess the keyboard cover is buggy with it
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The reason why the touch pad on the keyboard book cover doesn't work properly is due to Samsung using weird binding keys which remains unrecognized by Moonlight and Parsec.
Also It would be nice if there was a way to disable alt tab natively so that when you press it, it registers only in the remote desktop app so you get the full experience.
But yeah right now RDP is the only working option If using the Keyboard Book Cover although it's slower than Moonlight.