[Q] Phiremod v5.2 or CM7{MostRecentNightly} + HC Features? - Nook Color General

Simple question, just lookin' for a consensus: do people prefer Phiremod v5.2 or plain old CyanogenMod7 with the wonderful Honeycomb Features on top?
Any sort of opinion counts. Smoothness of GUI, usability, stability, raw burning power-- you name it, I want to hear it. I know every Nook has its own personality too, but whateva. I'm just looking for opinions.

Phiremod for me is the way to go. He knows GUI and does a good job at it. According to phiredrop, the Honeycomb features you're referencing are in the works. Patience my dear. Patience.

The Tablet Tweaks will, when done, and up as one of the CyanogenMod settings in the rom once the developer is done and its all tested and he is happy with it.
Until then, both the Tablet Tweaks and Phiremod will be slightly behind the "pure" CM7 nightlies thanks to having to wait for the nightlies to be able to add things to a custom version.
Of the two, the Tablet Tweaks are more compelling to ME than anything else, so as long as they don't fall too far behind nightlies I am sticking with that version.
Eventually the frenetic development pace the CyanogenMod Team is going at will slow down and someday we will actually see a stable version released:
Phiremod will, I expect, continue to exist and then have all of the CM stuff plus the additions.
The tablet tweaks will be in the base CM rom and cease as a stand-alone- its only there now for developing the changes, after all.

Need Help With Phiremod V5.2
Just flash this ROM a short time ago. Rebooted and I'm stuck on the green android page - the one that says "welcome to android". I keep touching the android to get started, but it doesn't work. Did I do something wrong during the install?

My first question- do you have a backup of the previous rom?
Second- which rom? Phiremod or CM7?
I haven't had that problem with either rom, but a few months back I had plenty of troubles.
Fortunately the NC is hard to actually brick.
There are a few ways to boot into recovery, but the first thing I would TRY is simply holding the power button in and see if it will reboot.
If not you will most likely need to find one of the ways to force reboot and truthfully I no longer remember them. All the info is here in this forum though.

ambogt said:
Phiremod for me is the way to go. He knows GUI and does a good job at it. According to phiredrop, the Honeycomb features you're referencing are in the works. Patience my dear. Patience.
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Iiiiiintawesting... well I've waited all this time for GB for my Droid X and it certainly paid off, so I can wait a bit longer.
I'll try Phiremod v5.2 in the meantime, just to get something running on device. Is it possible to dual-boot something off your eMMC and Phiremod v5.2 off the SD?

ambogt said:
Phiremod for me is the way to go. He knows GUI and does a good job at it. According to phiredrop, the Honeycomb features you're referencing are in the works. Patience my dear. Patience.
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Yes, Phiremod is the master of GUI in my eyes. His included apps are fantastic as well.
However, the ROM of the hour IMO is the CM7 video test build. That sucker plays full motion in hardware accel and like all of dalingrin's compilations, provides access to the market apps normal cm7 (as of today) doesn't. (Namely, certain live wallpapers like Silhouette which I love.)
When the video code is finalized, and the tablet code is finalized, and both are pushed into CM7, and the phiredrop mod's it.... zomg... digital spunkage.

chisleu said:
Yes, Phiremod is the master of GUI in my eyes. His included apps are fantastic as well.
However, the ROM of the hour IMO is the CM7 video test build. That sucker plays full motion in hardware accel and like all of dalingrin's compilations, provides access to the market apps normal cm7 (as of today) doesn't. (Namely, certain live wallpapers like Silhouette which I love.)
When the video code is finalized, and the tablet code is finalized, and both are pushed into CM7, and the phiredrop mod's it.... zomg... digital spunkage.
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Yeah... that does sound ridiculously amazing... seems I bought a Nook Color at the right time.

ieAnd said:
Yeah... that does sound ridiculously amazing... seems I bought a Nook Color at the right time.
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Yep!! Make sure you donate to CM7 and anyone else you find deserving. Even $1-$5 makes a difference, especially when 1000 people do it!!

rogerdugans said:
My first question- do you have a backup of the previous rom?
Second- which rom? Phiremod or CM7?
I haven't had that problem with either rom, but a few months back I had plenty of troubles.
Fortunately the NC is hard to actually brick.
There are a few ways to boot into recovery, but the first thing I would TRY is simply holding the power button in and see if it will reboot.
If not you will most likely need to find one of the ways to force reboot and truthfully I no longer remember them. All the info is here in this forum though.
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Thanks for responding, but I figured it out myself. I just redid the entire flash, but this time I did NOT load GApps. It worked perfectly, and I was able to get all of my old apps, including the market, from my Titanium Backup.

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HCv4 or CM7??

just currious what folks who have run both think? which one performs better?
At this moment Cm7 off course. If we get an official fully working Honeycomb then off course Honeycomb.
CM7, easily.
The HC ROM is cool, but isn't from source. CM7 is your best bet for everyday use.
CM7 is working great as long as you don't use the built in video/music player(codec problems, rock player is a fix).
Full market access isn't working either and some apps too(pandora).
Flash websites work great and the rom itself is very smooth.
HCv4
For everything other than video (which doesn't work stock in CM7 either) I use the Honeycomb emmc install.
HC is fast and stable for general web browsing.
This is just my .02
Dan
Like everyone says CM7 is much more stable, and because of the nightlies we are likely to see most of the major issues resolved within a week, however once HC goes AOSP its a totally different ball game, for now CM7 is your best bet.
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Like everyone says CM7 is much more stable, and because of the nightlies we are likely to see most of the major issues resolved within a week, however once HC goes AOSP its a totally different ball game, for now CM7 is your best bet.
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CM have had Gingerbread for long enough to know how to tweak it, I'd expect it to take a while for Honeycomb to get up to the same level.
Any word on if there will be a version of CM7 that we can boot off the SDCard? Would be great for those who just want to check it out before flashing.
Another vote for CM7 or some type of froyo. HC ran waaaaaay to slow for me. Even non-technically savvy people were like "man, isn't that really slow..?"
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Any word on if there will be a version of CM7 that we can boot off the SDCard? Would be great for those who just want to check it out before flashing.
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I seriously doubt it. CM, as far as I know, is strictly off the emmc.
There probably won't ever be a CM7 from the nightly builds that you could write to a bootable uSD but it certainly should be possible to create one. It is even mentioned in the FAQ from the [USER] CM7 General Discussion thread.
Q: IS THERE AN SD-ONLY "BOOTABLE" VERSION?
Not from the nighty builds. However-- should someone want to create such a bootable SD-- (warning: Slightly technical answer all it would take to create one is a new uRamdisk file with the partitions in init.encore.rc pointing to the correct partitions on the SD card.
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I'd try creating one myself but I have too many projects going on and trying CM7 isn't really high on my list.
For right now, CM7 is fine. Once someone from this great community ports over the "real" HC, then I will be 3.0!!! Everything else will be obsolete!!!
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just currious what folks who have run both think? which one performs better?
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well my HC setup is about 95% complete(i have just a few market apps not showing up but its no bother) and a side from no HQ youtube and flash(which i can wait the xoom wont have flash support on release as well) it runs smooth off the emmc and its really stable so i recommend honeycomb
I have been running HC4 since it came out and love it. Quad scores of 1700. Same probs as other ROMs with no Flash and no HQ YouTube, but very stable. I haven't tried CM7 and prob wont just because I am at a good place witty my NC on HC. Can't wait for AOSP version! I don't think u can go wrong with either one, tho.
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I have spent the past couple days trying out all the available rom's that are in the dev section. I have tried HCv4, Froyo, CM7 and Stock.
I really liked honeycomb the best but for some reason a few apps I need were force closing on me, namely IMDB and Aldiko(yes I still use my nook primarily as a reading device.) I didn't spend too much time trying to figure out why they were closing, if anyone has an answer to that it would be appreciated as I will reinstall honeycomb in a heartbeat. At this point hopefully it won't be long until we see a new version based on the SDK so might be prudent to wait for that. I didn't run v4 long enough to judge battery usage so can't comment.
Next up CM7, I liked this rom as well but found it had high battery drain which kind of irked me a little, I guess not a huge deal but was annoying. I believe it is something to do with not going fully asleep from what I learned but reading through the threads, I am sure this will be worked out soon and this will be a viable option.
Next was latest version of the customized Froyo. This is another nice rom which I am currently testing out on my NC. All apps I have tried seem to work fine so far. It was a little tricky getting market working on the newest version. I think the problem is the newest version uses EXT4 for system/data but still wants to use EXT3 for cache and this seems to cause some initial issues. I think it could be resolved just by changing the cache mount command at startup to mount as EXT4, maybe this will be sorted in the next release. Other than that so far so good. Also I haven't been running it long enough to gauge battery usage yet. Also does anyone know if you can remove the softkeys app? Uninstall is greyed out for that app for some reason. I remapped my hardware volume keys to menu/back so I don't really need softkeys any more.
Lastly the stock rooted 1.1. I ran this for about a week(I have only had my NC for a little over a week). I liked the stock but found I didn't use the B&N factory apps much if at all so figured I may as well try some of the other versions out and this is what lead me on the adventure above. Battery usage seemed great on the stock 1.1 root. It would easily last me a 2-3 days with normal usage for me which includes a couple hours of reading during my commute to work and a little web surfing and such in the evening and possibly throughout the day at work.
For now I am going to run Froyo for a few days to see how I like it. If an SDK based Honeycomb comes out I will definitely try that and once the bugs are worked out in CM7 I may try it again as well.
Kevin
I'm running CM7, I'd love it if I could get Youtube to work period. It would be nice if I could get apps to stop force closing on me all the time too. Once these issues can be fixed I'll love me some CM7.
Another vote here for CM7 on the SD card. I'm not yet completely comfortable with flashing my ROM on the Nook just yet and I like trying out different builds till I find the one I really want to stick with.
CM7 sounds pretty impressive though, I'll admit.
I can see that CM7 has a clear majority of votes...but HCv4 has work flawlessly for me. I run the 1.1 OC'd kernel, and it is very fast and very stable.
I suspect it depends on what apps you like to run, and while I have installed quite a few from the market, I spend most of my "nook time" using it as a reader. I use the B&N reader. Kindel and Aldiko, and all three work perfectly for me.
Having said that, I also understand that not everyone has had as satisfactory an experience as I have. While it was not all that hard to get up and running, it was also not a simple "press the button" install. I used the first version of the flashable eMMC package that samuelhalff put together a couple of weeks back, and "way back then" there were a number of small tweaks needed to get things like ADHOC wireless & Market running.
DeadlyDa said:
I can see that CM7 has a clear majority of votes...but HCv4 has work flawlessly for me. I run the 1.1 OC'd kernel, and it is very fast and very stable.
I suspect it depends on what apps you like to run, and while I have installed quite a few from the market, I spend most of my "nook time" using it as a reader. I use the B&N reader. Kindel and Aldiko, and all three work perfectly for me.
Having said that, I also understand that not everyone has had as satisfactory an experience as I have. While it was not all that hard to get up and running, it was also not a simple "press the button" install. I used the first version of the flashable eMMC package that samuelhalff put together a couple of weeks back, and "way back then" there were a number of small tweaks needed to get things like ADHOC wireless & Market running.
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Hmmm I tried out HCv4 last evening and had trouble with Aldiko force closing on me pretty much as soon as it started up. I got the Aldiko 2.0 logo and then it would FC. I tried both the Free and Paid versions. Did you have to do anything special to get it to work?? I also had the same trouble with the IMDB app. I would go back to HC in a heartbeat if I could get Aldiko working properly. I also use my NC primarily as a reader so Aldiko is very important.
Thanks.
Kevin

What's the best internal rom?

Ok, I'm a little overwhelmed by the number of nook roms out there, and I would like to know what everyone uses and why.
I've tried 2, and they all have benefits/negatives and I'm trying to figure out which to be my daily driver, while we wait for the next generation of roms to come about.
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Ok, I'm a little overwhelmed by the number of nook roms out there, and I would like to know what everyone uses and why.
I've tried 2, and they all have benefits/negatives and I'm trying to figure out which to be my daily driver, while we wait for the next generation of roms to come about.
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well which 2 have you already tried?
I personally use CyanogenMod 7, but that's because I use it on my Droid, and that's because it's the first ROM I found when I got my droid.
I haven't had it crash on me yet, but there was a Wi-Fi problem I had to fix through ADB. (Link) Otherwise, it's been more than good enough for a daily driver. I really haven't had experience with other ROMs. I just flashed the thing with CM7 while I was still in B&N. I would recommend a Honeycomb ROM, but that's not very "complete" yet.
Sorry I can't say much else (), but I gave my $.02.
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well which 2 have you already tried?
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I wasn't going to mention them so I could hear everyone's full opinion despite what I've tried and not hold back because I've tried it.
However, I don't want to be a **** so it's cm7 and HC v.4 now don't let that sway your opinions!
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I personally use CyanogenMod 7, but that's because I use it on my Droid, and that's because it's the first ROM I found when I got my droid.
I haven't had it crash on me yet, but there was a Wi-Fi problem I had to fix through ADB. (Link) Otherwise, it's been more than good enough for a daily driver. I really haven't had experience with other ROMs. I just flashed the thing with CM7 while I was still in B&N. I would recommend a Honeycomb ROM, but that's not very "complete" yet.
Sorry I can't say much else (), but I gave my $.02.
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I was having the wifi issues to (Atleast I assume it's the same, I would just lose connection and have to reconnect pretty consistently) the thing that actually bothered me most about it was the back and menu buttons up at the top right. To small, wanted a different more tablety layout.
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I was having the wifi issues to (Atleast I assume it's the same, I would just lose connection and have to reconnect pretty consistently) the thing that actually bothered me most about it was the back and menu buttons up at the top right. To small, wanted a different more tablety layout.
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Oh, no the Wi-Fi issue was much worse. I couldn't get the chip to activate! At least the fix worked, though.
If "too small" is the problem, increase the LCD Density.
If you want a more tablet-like layout, you will have to deal with Honeycomb in its current state.
If you don't like the CM7 buttons, use SoftKeys or Button Savior.
(I would post links, but I can't.)
I tried soft keys, but I haven't tried button savior. and didn't know about lcd density. If I go back (which isn't in my nature with roms) I may try it out.
I'm really liking honeycomb especially as far as layout, but I would like a bit more stability. But really I Can live with whatever, the nook is really my fourth internet device and currently just a toy.
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I tried soft keys, but I haven't tried button savior. and didn't know about lcd density. If I go back (which isn't in my nature with roms) I may try it out.
I'm really liking honeycomb especially as far as layout, but I would like a bit more stability. But really I Can live with whatever, the nook is really my fourth internet device and currently just a toy.
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The solution is patience, then.
Wait for the Google to give us the source, and all your problems will be solved.
(Don't forget that HC is a port of the SDK emulator image.)
well I knew that, that's why I wanted to know what everyone else is using so maybe I could try some other things out... during that wait it out time
Well... if you want to try a Galaxy Tab-like experience, try this:
Install Nookie Froyo
Set LCD Density to 250
Install ADW and set the app drawer to paged.
(Continue with other minor tweaks here)
i'm rolling nookie froyo 0.6.7, but i'm going to move up to 0.6.8 soon. i like it, but i'm sure honeycomb is much better. since the bugs in hc for the nook color are still being hammered out, though, i'm going to stick with the stable froyo rom for the time being.
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Well... if you want to try a Galaxy Tab-like experience, try this:
Install Nookie Froyo
Set LCD Density to 250
Install ADW and set the app drawer to paged.
(Continue with other minor tweaks here)
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Is this rom an actual port of the tab, or is it just made to look like the tab?
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i'm rolling nookie froyo 0.6.7, but i'm going to move up to 0.6.8 soon. i like it, but i'm sure honeycomb is much better. since the bugs in hc for the nook color are still being hammered out, though, i'm going to stick with the stable froyo rom for the time being.
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Yeah this is kind of the info I was looking for, trying to see which roms had what features and still had the best stability.
HC is awesome, but not yet a daily driver (unless you're the adventurous type) I have a friend who is about to buy a nc for himself and he wants me to root it for him. I have no problems with a buggy rom for me, but for him I need stable yet best.
not sure where you are getting the idea that there are so many roms to choose from.
We have stock rooted, nookie froyo, honeycomb v3 and cyanogenmod (gingerbread).
there is one modified version of cyanogenmod -- firemod and one customized nookie froyo build. thats about it as far as i know... am i missing a bunch of roms somewhere?
you can try all of them out relatively quickly and form your own opinion but if you insist....
stock rooted is the most functional option at the moment. oc to 1100mhz for speed and other tweaks. nookie froyo is second with faster overall 'smoothness' but still has some bugs to work out. third is cyanogenmod which is quickly catching up to froyo and is my personal favorite. just needs video acceleration at this point. last is honeycomb but very fun to play with.
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not sure where you are getting the idea that there are so many roms to choose from.
We have stock rooted, nookie froyo, honeycomb v3 and cyanogenmod (gingerbread).
there is one modified version of cyanogenmod -- firemod and one customized nookie froyo build. thats about it as far as i know... am i missing a bunch of roms somewhere?
you can try all of them out relatively quickly and form your own opinion but if you insist....
stock rooted is the most functional option at the moment. oc to 1100mhz for speed and other tweaks. nookie froyo is second with faster overall 'smoothness' but still has some bugs to work out. third is cyanogenmod which is quickly catching up to froyo and is my personal favorite. just needs video acceleration at this point. last is honeycomb but very fun to play with.
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That might be all of them, it seems a bit more for anyone walking into this dev thread, with the internal and on sdcard roms.
But seeing them listed out like this is very helpful thank you!
Is there large differences between the customized roms and their noncustomized origins?
personally id recommend rooted stock rom. Ive tried nookie froyo and honeycomb v4. Froyo was really slow. It was really frustrating browsing with it. Honeycomb is much faster than froyo but a lot of apps dont install. Stock rom was stable and I wasnt able to install just a couple of apps that I tried from the android market
personally, i'm only adventurous to the point of rooting. after that, i want stability. i don't mind staying a release or 2 behind the most recent releases just so i know the issues are being dealt with.
with froyo, i'm able to use my own launcher and customize pretty much to my liking. i still don't see all the apps i want in the market, but there are enough forum posts here and on android central that link you to apk downloads so that you can install them through adb. i've seen some fixes for this, but it seems to be an issue on both froyo and hc. hope this helps!
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personally id recommend rooted stock rom. Ive tried nookie froyo and honeycomb v4. Froyo was really slow. It was really frustrating browsing with it. Honeycomb is much faster than froyo but a lot of apps dont install. Stock rom was stable and I wasnt able to install just a couple of apps that I tried from the android market
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I didn't like how much the stock rom seemed like, well a nook color which is great but in this instance I wanted to get a tablet!
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personally, i'm only adventurous to the point of rooting. after that, i want stability. i don't mind staying a release or 2 behind the most recent releases just so i know the issues are being dealt with.
with froyo, i'm able to use my own launcher and customize pretty much to my liking. i still don't see all the apps i want in the market, but there are enough forum posts here and on android central that link you to apk downloads so that you can install them through adb. i've seen some fixes for this, but it seems to be an issue on both froyo and hc. hope this helps!
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With my phone, I'm less adventurous, I have calmed down to where now I only put release candidate and stable cm roms.
However I got this nook for a really really great deal (100$ plus the cover) and I want to try out whatever I can (and if possible help, though I have little to none coding skills) I might have to try the froyo build out since it's technically the only one I Haven't tried based on the above list (minus the 2 custom roms)
I kinda wish there was a customized version of the stock rom.
I guess the oc kernel counts?
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I kinda wish there was a customized version of the stock rom.
I guess the oc kernel counts?
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I actually just bought setcpu to try overclocking the kernals a little bit on my NC.
What would You customize about stock?
after flashing back to froyo i must say it is far better then I remembered.
maybe it's the newer kernels but it is fast and smooth. hardware video works which i was missing on cm7.
so i change my (current) order to nookie froyo, then stock rooted, followed by cm7 and then honeycomb. i would try them all though and see for yourself.

The Honeycomb Conundrum

Let me preface this by saying that I have nothing but the utmost respect for the dev community (NC and otherwise) and I really don't mean to step on any toes with this. I'm fairly new at all this and I've got some questions.
Alright, so as we've all heard by now, Google (whether their reasons are benevolent or not) are withholding the AOSP release of Honeycomb and that kind of rains on everyone's nook color parade. We've got a mostly working port of HC that kind of sags in the performance area. Its almost been enough to make me flash Gingerbread but there are a few things - namely the browser, email app, soft keys and notification system - that I'd miss. The new + screen is nice, but I've been using launcher pro as it runs seemingly faster than the stock launcher, so I'm already missing out on that.
Now, from what I understand, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, deeperblue's HC port uses parts of Gingerbread to make everything all hunky dory.
My question is this; would a viable solution to slow HC performance be to make a new rom and pump MORE Gingerbread in? i.e. Take HC's notification system replace GB's phone-style notification pane. Make it mostly gingerbread with some tablet friendly nip/tucks here and there.
I realize there are things like softkeys and the bottom taskbar mod, but HC's handling of the android buttons and the new notification system is just so appealing. Its making the choice of which rom to run unduly difficult. And while I can't cook a rom, I'm hoping someone who can sees this and runs with it, if it is feasible, that is.
Truthfully... It's up in the air like everything else, unless a DEV directly comes out of the shadows and saids, hey i'm going to do it... Then we just won't know. Honestly, I'm sad that we won't see HC right around the corner, but CM7 is pretty awesome. And the Xoom is scheduled to drop down to $599 (Wifi only) today, making it a lot more competitive than the 3g.
That's not to say that I personally have $599 to drop and go buy a new tablet, but it does mean that you'll probably see them on craigslist or ebay in a few months for a bit cheaper. =\
The honey comb preview is awsome but to many apps don't work.
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My question is this; would a viable solution to slow HC performance be to make a new rom and pump MORE Gingerbread in?
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That was kinda the plan. CM7 development was going in a way that all the improvements (Bluetooth, partially working DSP, an accelerated interface) were going to be directly ported to Honeycomb once the source released. But without the source, that can't happen.
Basically Google has completely screwed any Nook Color fans wanting Honeycomb.
The only improvement that can be made is that a ROM could be made from the final SDK. That would be just as laggy, and will lack new features (Bluetooth, DSP, etc.), but it would be able to use Android tablet apps.
From the conversation about Google's move on the net, many are saying there won't be a Honeycomb source at all, and the next source dump will come with Ice Cream months from now.
So Honeycomb fans have a choice- either try out the CM7 modification that you talked about to make CM7 more Honeycomb-like, or start saving up for that Xoom...
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The honey comb preview is awsome but to many apps don't work.
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what apps dont work? most of the major ones have worked for me so far...
im finding that the hc rom is very usable for a daily driver...although bluetooth and dsp support would be very nice...
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what apps dont work? most of the major ones have worked for me so far...
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Any Tablet app that requires the final SDK version (aka all those Xoom apps) won't work on our preview build.
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Any Tablet app that requires the final SDK version (aka all those Xoom apps) won't work on our preview build.
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Thank you for your informative reply.
It seems now that my best bet is going to be t see what the cm7 guys cook up. Hopefully this aosp business will spark some of the innovation that the android community is known for. I'd love to help, but its not exactly my forte
With regards to what apps aren't working, my marketplace only seems to intall apps when the stars are right. I often have to attempt an install upwards of five times to have it succeed, if it even does. Otherwise i get insufficient storage errors or indeterminate error 18
sorry if i am hijacking this a bit, but i had thought that android was 'open source'. why the change in the plans to not release hc? is this to protect the hw manufacturers like mot who have hc on the xoom, and freeze out users who want it ported non supported platforms? Otherwise, I can't understand the logic.
I got the nc cause i had thought it had the best $/performance of any android based tablet. For half the price of others, it had great screen, and forgetting bt, etc., nice hw specs. With hc, it would be fantastic!
How else to counter ipads if not to get hc on as many tablets as possible?
I wonder if the fact that the playbook is running our apps has anything to do with it. If so, I don't mind anything that makes it rough for RIM.
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sorry if i am hijacking this a bit, but i had thought that android was 'open source'. why the change in the plans to not release hc? is this to protect the hw manufacturers like mot who have hc on the xoom, and freeze out users who want it ported non supported platforms? Otherwise, I can't understand the logic.
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It is open source and it WILL be released however at this time they don't think it's ready for final release (I've heard of various tweaks they need to make in the xoom) and are working those out prior to releasing it to devs

Is Nook Color in Limbo, or are we at the cusp?

Is Nook Color in Limbo, or are we at the cusp of something new?
I hope development for the Nook Color has not stagnated. Are we waiting for the new kernel or is there just nothing new on the horizon?
I am just wondering because I have been watching and waiting and it appears development has slowed up for the time being. Not implying anything, just looking to see if something new and wonderful is on the horizon???
I was so looking forward to Honeycomb and it seems Google has pulled the rug out from under us in some back room deal.
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What are you talking about? In limbo? Bluetooth, recent video fixes, new overclocked kernels, work on the next coming edition of kernel to prevent SOD. Man, you must be out of the loop or really impatient.
The Release Candidate of CM7 came out recently. That means a final release is eminent. That final release should include all these awesome tablet tweaks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002000
I don't know why you say development is slowing down. I have been flashing a new ROM everyday thanks to mad-murdock!
Im sorry, but what ARE you talking about? In the last month, both hardware accelleration for video and bluetooth were turned on. CM7 has reached release candidate stage, and our devs have said that work is progressing on both a newer kernel version, as well as fixes to the few remaining bugs. Maybe you should actually read some of those nifty development threads around here...
If i am coming off as rude... perhaps that is the intent. There are so many needless threads like this, where some reading and critcal thinking could answer alot of questions. I mean.. developent stopped? As it is, things are ramping up, and a quick read of the forum would show that. Add in the constant misleading talk about what the nook can and can't do, and it is rather frustrating. So yeah, I am venting, but i think it is well deserved.
On the contrary, I think that things are happening real fast. CM7 is heading for a stable release, Mad Murdock's tablet tweaks are a real innovation, as are brianf21's froyo status bar improvements, and real progress is being made in the kernel area - blue tooth, hardware acceleration, etc.
What more can we ask for?
only HC is at a minor hump, the rest are busy, and b&n update is dropping soon. you crazy!
had to chime in to see what the op is smoking...
cm7: hardware video acceleration, tablet tweaks, bluetooth, kernel mods.
froyo: status bar tweaks, 'nookie-comb' looks nice, new official rom coming soon
honeycomb: who cares. google screwed that one up so we wait for IC.
Honestly, right now I'm in limbo about WHICH custom, daily updated, feature rich build to use !
Rooted Stock is good enough for what I do, but then a few games didn't work... so i went to froyo... then tried CM7... then a custom froyo, then another CM7... (and a few hardlocks and flash to stocks in between)..
At this point i just want a "1.0" release of CM7, or for HC to become available... although i'm sure the weeks following HC will be daily build after daily build.
p.s. kinda jealous about the $300 Tegra2 tablet floating around.
Divine_Madcat said:
Im sorry, but what ARE you talking about? In the last month, both hardware accelleration for video and bluetooth were turned on. CM7 has reached release candidate stage, and our devs have said that work is progressing on both a newer kernel version, as well as fixes to the few remaining bugs. Maybe you should actually read some of those nifty development threads around here...
If i am coming off as rude... perhaps that is the intent. There are so many needless threads like this, where some reading and critcal thinking could answer alot of questions. I mean.. developent stopped? As it is, things are ramping up, and a quick read of the forum would show that. Add in the constant misleading talk about what the nook can and can't do, and it is rather frustrating. So yeah, I am venting, but i think it is well deserved.
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What madcat said
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You want limbo?
My new Droid 2 Global has just one rom which works with global sim capability- flashed it shortly after I got it and no updates since.
Another crew did get D2 roms working on the D2G but no sim card use.
Nothing for months now...
My original DROID has more development work going on than THAT!
The NC has been fairly exciting as far as dev work since Christmas and the last month has been incredible...
I even saw a post fairly recently that leads me to think some folks are working on USB host.... Crossing my fingers on that one.
The last two weeks we have even had a guy working on tweaks for tablets that pretty much makes Honeycomb's issues irrelevant as far as I am concerned.
I'd say that is pretty good.
Sorry, not the intended result.
I guess I am waiting for BN to come out with Android 2.2, I wasn't denegrating all the hard work that has gone on here. A couple of developments have kinda skewed my perceptions, one of which is Honeycomb source being yanked, and the other is of course the expected update from BN not materializing yet... I guess I am getting a little impatient. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I am using Nookie Froyo at the moment and it is working, however I really liked Stock 1.1.0. but with the NC using Android 2.1 I can't do some things I'd like to do. It just seems to me that BN is dragging their feet. Hence my concerns.
As I understood your original post you are waiting for the official 2.2, not a developer build.
The last rumor that I heard (from these forums) was that it was to go out this month. (but that was a rumor)
Not really sure why people are flaming the OP so hard. Besides CM7 nook color development has practically stopped dead in its tracks. HC is stuck, froyo has been dead for a while.
So i can see how it seems that way unless you watch CM7 development it does look very dead. CM7 is usable enough that froyo is not really relevant and with googles decision to not open source HC means its pretty much dead in the water.
Actually with Tablet Tweaks, CM7 is still seeing updates almost every day. And there's I believe an Experimental Kernel hiding in the CM7 User Thread which seems to have cleaned up the Battery Life on CM7.
As far as the official 2.2 update... Who needs it when you've got CM7? I mean, even if it does come out and we nooter it, it's still not going to do everything that CM7's custom rom can.
HoneyComb, yeah it sucks that it's not coming out right away. And I was pretty upset myself, but with tablets coming out (with similar prices to the nook) that have HC already... I can wait.
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Not really sure why people are flaming the OP so hard. Besides CM7 nook color development has practically stopped dead in its tracks. HC is stuck, froyo has been dead for a while.
So i can see how it seems that way unless you watch CM7 development it does look very dead. CM7 is usable enough that froyo is not really relevant and with googles decision to not open source HC means its pretty much dead in the water.
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Why waste any more time (right now) on anything BUT CM7? I mean, yes, Froyo and Eclair are dead in the water, but that is good; it just means all the devs are working on the best system we have. When HC source drops, i expect most work on CM7 to dry up, and again move to the better OS.
So yes, dev is on one OS right now, but my oh my, what sweet dev it is. If you call that stagnation, you are crazy..
I'm eager for the bn update just because I like to actually us my nook as an ereader rather than just a tablet. I'm a big fan of the mags and the kid books. Besides, I get my cm7 fix on my dinc.
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Actually with Tablet Tweaks, CM7 is still seeing updates almost every day. And there's I believe an Experimental Kernel hiding in the CM7 User Thread which seems to have cleaned up the Battery Life on CM7.
As far as the official 2.2 update... Who needs it when you've got CM7? I mean, even if it does come out and we nooter it, it's still not going to do everything that CM7's custom rom can.
HoneyComb, yeah it sucks that it's not coming out right away. And I was pretty upset myself, but with tablets coming out (with similar prices to the nook) that have HC already... I can wait.
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if you know of such a kernel can you link to it?
Also if stock goes to 2.2 and gives us all ability to play flash and the extr speed improvements of a JIT compiler ad can then be nootered and overclocked, why would one need CM7? This way you also get the ui from B&N which includes built in back and menu buttons. It also includes the full B&N experience for reading magazines subscriptions books......You los that on custom Roms.
So while I laud the Devs work, getting nook color to froyo might make much of their work unnecessary, unless it gives them a better platform to make the NC even better.
Unless the stock update brings bluetooth, CM7 will always be better. Sure, i guess there are some people that want the ereader functionality, but there are those the enjoy better hardware functionality.
Not to mention, i guess i am one of few, but i really hated B&N's framework modifications, and really enjoy a stock Android UI..
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Unless the stock update brings bluetooth, CM7 will always be better. Sure, i guess there are some people that want the ereader functionality, but there are those the enjoy better hardware functionality.
Not to mention, i guess i am one of few, but i really hated B&N's framework modifications, and really enjoy a stock Android UI..
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I really hope someone manages to port over the slick reader app from stock to CM7.
I like reading on my nook but not at the cost of such horrible performance in everything else.
Divine_Madcat said:
Unless the stock update brings bluetooth, CM7 will always be better. Sure, i guess there are some people that want the ereader functionality, but there are those the enjoy better hardware functionality.
Not to mention, i guess i am one of few, but i really hated B&N's framework modifications, and really enjoy a stock Android UI..
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Bluetooth works awful at best.
Regular headset doesn't work and range is a foot.
So far most people have keyboard trouble. Seems ext. bluettoh gps seems to be the best bet. So for me a stock rom with all the current missing goodies fixed with nooter and o/c?
I'd be happy.
Outside of bluetooth, if you had fully supported 2.2 on your device so hardware accel video and flash worked perfectly and yet you still had the B&N experience when you wanted it for free instore reading and subscriptions .....what else would you really want?

[Q] Honeycomb SDK Port - The Return

I have been using the Honeycomb Hybrid - RC1 ROM from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062626 for a couple of weeks now. I really like it; except for the SD card being a bit of a pain to load. I am just wondering if this ROM is dead or still in development!? I guess I could move on to another ROM; just really like this one... Or if anyone is using another Honeycomb one that they really like that they could recommend... I am pretty much a noob when it comes to this stuff; only had my Nook Color for about a month.
Unfortunately, since there is no source code available for Honeycomb (HC), there is limited development work ... just patching of the SDK image to try to get features to work.
I originally used the Honeycomb (HC) ROM by Deeper Blue because it was the sanctioned "tablet" UI (eventually I tried the HC Hybrid you're running) ... But once I used CM7, I haven't been disappointed.
I prefer some of the Honeycomb features such as the landscape lockscreen and split screen interface of apps like GMail and Settings.
Unfortunately the full potential of the device can't utilized since there is no source code.
Great work by Deeper-Blue, Divine_Madcat, and others on the Honeycomb "port"!
CM7, on the other hand, makes the nookColor a fully functional tablet!
Even fully exploits the hardware: bluetooth, flash, great video, and now USB Host support (connect USB devices via the USB port at the bottom)!
I'd suggest you give CM7 a try. My $.02
hmmm I had been wondering about CM7... Yea I am really curious to see how this puppy is as a fully functional tablet.... it has quite a few kinks in the HC Hybrid I am using...and seems to freeze quite a bit. I really like how my Gmail looks with the split sceen...
I will give CM7 a try off the SD card to see how it is....
Thanks Kem....your reply was very helpful...
There are a couple of different threads talking about Honeycomb, (i.e. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093521 ) but for the most part, its just a patch work of different things to kind of getting it working. It does run, and it is beautiful, but there are a lot of little things to overlook, kinks and bugs and other things that just agrivate me and ruin the experience. I went back to CM7 and am using the nightlies with Dalingrin's latest OC kernel and tools. Stable with out any issue. When it comes down to it.... it just works. If you want to give it a shot, by all means, flash Honey Comb, but do give CM7 a try, is the way to go for now.
I'm find have to agree. I was stoked to try Honeycomb when I got my nook, but CM7 is just more functional. Can't wait forty ICS tho.
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