Hey guys, I installed the skinomi skin a couple minutes ago. I think the screen might not have been wet enough when I applied it. Will these go away on their own? Do I need to throw it away? Can I remove it and try again? See the full sized picture below.
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they do usually permeate through the glass and plastic protector itself, but it will take a few days to completely go away
I'm worried that only the small ones will go away. Will the larger ones disappear too?
only time will tell bro, Patience is a virtue. Give it a week or so.
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I'm worried that only the small ones will go away. Will the larger ones disappear too?
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how long has that protector been on there? and which protector is it?
those bubbles seem a tad large and i'm not feeling too confident about them going away. normal "raindbow reflecting shiny" bubbles are normal if you applied using a soap solution... but those seem too abundant to have resulted from that type of application. did you use a credit card to push them out?
if it hasnt been on that long, take it off and retry.
I've put on these crappy "invisible-shield" wet apply screen protectors before and never had that many bubbles. You should redo it and try to get it a bit better.
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... I think the screen might not have been wet enough when I applied it ...
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Actually you shouldn't "wet" the screen, just wet the skin (or dip the whole skin in the solution and let the excess water drips out before applying it)
However, if you're certain that the bubbles weren't caused by dust under the skin, then they should disappear within a week.
My wife got me a non glass screen protector. The guy who installed it gave it to her for free because there were about 50 bubbles on the screen. I powered off and powered on, and each bubble had a rainbow swirl which indicates that the bubbles have liquid underneath them.
I left it on the dash in the hot sun for an hour, and I hit it with a hair dryer for about a minute a few times. Didn't need to do that.
The bubbles are disappearing and I only have 2 left. As long as it's not air or dirt,water bubbles are fairly normal and if you leave the phone be for a day or 3, the bubbles will dry up and disappear on their own.
I think that many people who buy non glass screen protectors expect the screen protector to be 100 percent bubble free. If you have bubbles that look rainbow on a white background screen, leave them alone and they'll dry up.
I don't know why or how trapped moisture dries, but it does. Air bubbles must be popped and debris bubbkes are obvious.
My new screen protector looked a lot like the OP with smaller bubbles but now, AFTER HAVING LET IT SIT FOR ABOUT 5 OR 6 HOURS, I only have 2 bubbles that are shrinking. If you have a bunch of small bubbles, pull up Google. White background page. If all the bubbles have rainbow swirls, that's moisture AND THEY WILL GO AWAY ON THEIR OWN.
I'm only capping those parts because that seems to be the correct answer regarding bubbles. Rainbow means liquid. Liquid goes away on its own, especially if left in the sun on the dash for a bit.
Air pockets are clear. Very carefully pop them with a small needle or pin.
Debris is visible. That requires some removing and cleaning. Or a new protector altogether but you can buy 3 on amazon for 7 bucks.
Rainbow swirls- just let it dry by leaving it alone. It's a lot like window tint and vinyl car wraps. Small moisture bubbles are common and go away on their own.
Before people go tearing off screen covers and trying to reapply their bent out and fingerprinted soft screen protectors, try leaving the pen head sized and smaller bubbles alone and they'll go away AS LONG AS IT'S A MOISTURE BUBBLE.
I'll be perfectly honest- tempered glass screen protectors on the s7 edge are very finicky and unresponsive especially if you have a tight fitting case.
I much prefer a few moisture bubbles that will go away than I prefer an extra layer of glass that is very unresponsive and on any edge phone, tempered glass makes it hard to get feeds and pulling down the notification bar is as bad as setting up a fingerprint. Non responsive. Soft screen protectors might scuff and scratch, but they work and you don't lose response like you will with a tempered glass screen protector. But on these new phones that are wrapped in glass, I'd suggest a case to go with the protector. I've seen people drop their phones with no cases with screen protectors, and the screen is fine- the back of the phone is shattered.
I hope this helps anyone who may have had questions about screen protectors. Tempered glass is better on flat screen phones bit you lose response if you don't have a glove touch option for the screen.
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Not trying to be arrogant or pompous, these observations are based on what I've seen, what I've read, and what I avoided tinting windows. I figured I'd just cover all the bases.
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Just for info, there's two in the box. it covers ONLY the screen that has the LCD. DOesn't cover whole face.
Never had issues sticking on these static type protectors but this one gave me hell. ruined both. the protector is slightly tacky. And will attact dust(like any like this) so make sure you're in a clean room. But both of my protectors wouldn't stick on the edges of the protector. and every time I tried to peel it up and putting it back down, it still didn't hold. Then dust got under it. augh. Ruined both. I wonder if they would take them back since both wouldn't stick on teh edges? Aww... they will probably say I'm returning it because I got dust under it.
i know how you feel! i bought them when i got my hd2 and i got the top two-thirds of the protector on perfect but then the bottom third somehow got dust underneath, it really not that bad when the screen is on but its still annoying. cant wait to get my invisibleshield on it tho!
order this, the maximum protection from zagg....
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
I used invisishield on my ipod. Great stuff, but hard to get on perfect. 3 parts for a curved back and front only covers the LCD part? The front part sounds so unlike them. They normally have it going round buttons and everything.
But it's like putting tint on. You need to have a liquid to make slide just right.
i used invisible shield on my iphone, and it was fully protected. It did add grip to the device which i liked. Anyways, the maximum protection shield covered more than the normal full-body shield. It'll cover not only the LCD screen but all spaces around the hardware buttons and well as the speaker.
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Just for info, there's two in the box. it covers ONLY the screen that has the LCD. DOesn't cover whole face.
Never had issues sticking on these static type protectors but this one gave me hell. ruined both. the protector is slightly tacky. And will attact dust(like any like this) so make sure you're in a clean room. But both of my protectors wouldn't stick on the edges of the protector. and every time I tried to peel it up and putting it back down, it still didn't hold. Then dust got under it. augh. Ruined both. I wonder if they would take them back since both wouldn't stick on teh edges? Aww... they will probably say I'm returning it because I got dust under it.
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I also got these same screen protectors and was dissapointed when it did not cover the entire screen.
Trick to putting on screen protectors.
1.) Make sure the screen is completely clean of all smudges etc.
2.) Use a can of air duster to remove any small dust particles that might be stuck on the phone. If you don't have that then just take a piece of tape and remove any dust particles or dirt from the screen. This is the most important part!
3.) Line up the screen protector on the screen where you want to place it.
4.) Peel back the backing of the screen protector as you lay the screen on the device. Start from the top of the device and work your way down. If need be take out a credit card or another hard piece of plastic of some sort to push out any air bubbles that may occur as you lay down the screen protector.'
5.) Enjoy a job well done.
It's interesting to note that all the previous posts are (I assume) from US members.
You get a screen protector with the phone and we here in the UK don't.
I have heard mention that when some EU units have been returned for screen problems they have been repaired with what has appeared to be a plastic version of the screen.
My phone is now coming on three months old, never had a protector, never used a case and the screen is immaculate.
Can anyone say if theirs "feels" like plastic?
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It's interesting to note that all the previous posts are (I assume) from US members.
You get a screen protector with the phone and we here in the UK don't.
I have heard mention that when some EU units have been returned for screen problems they have been repaired with what has appeared to be a plastic version of the screen.
My phone is now coming on three months old, never had a protector, never used a case and the screen is immaculate.
Can anyone say if theirs "feels" like plastic?
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My TMOUS HDC HD2 is definitely glass.
I didn't bother to use a screen protector (didn't even know there was one supplied)...it isn't necessary on a glass screen.
Its very hard to scratch glass...you would need a very sharp object, made out of a very hard material (harder than glass), applied with a lot of pressure. I've had my iPhone for 3 years, and the glass is flawless on it. The aluminum housing is scratched, dented, and dinged up, and the LCD panel has a little bit of bruising on the top left corner BEHIND the glass...but the glass itself is immaculate.
Apple actually pulled the screen protectors off the shelves from the Apple store because they felt they were unnecessary..and frankly anyone who pays for one on the HD2 or iPhone wasted their money.
You'll actually see more imperfections on the screen by applying a screen protector...they have a tendency to attract dust, bubble up, and flat out get dirty. The only maintenance you need to do on a glass screen is polish out smudges and finger prints.
The biggest peril to glass touch screens is cracks from falls....and if your HD2 suffers a big enough impact, a screen protector or 'invisible shield' won't do squat to keep it from cracking
glass or plastic..either way.. i was soooooooooooo confident i wouldnt scratch mine, until about a minute ago when i was in the process of wiping the glass(plastic) screen before putting on a screen protector, i noticed a little scratch...great. Should've put on a protector sooner...
From now on, I willl be putting on a screen protector unless the screen are made out of crystal sapphire or something..
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It's interesting to note that all the previous posts are (I assume) from US members.
You get a screen protector with the phone and we here in the UK don't.
I have heard mention that when some EU units have been returned for screen problems they have been repaired with what has appeared to be a plastic version of the screen.
My phone is now coming on three months old, never had a protector, never used a case and the screen is immaculate.
Can anyone say if theirs "feels" like plastic?
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We actually do not get an included screen protector. Only the black gel case, which imo is quite crappy... loose and flimsy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6117793#post6117793 Check out oy instillation of the Invisible shield if you are considering buying one. I bought the Maximum Protection and it covers almost everything besides for around the buttons on the bottom, volume rocker, camera, Micro USB/ 3.5 Headphone jack, and the finger nail grove on battery cover. I also would like to note that my TMOUS HD2 did not include any screen protectors in the box.
Sorry imo I have to disagree with you about the included gel being loose mine fits quite snugly and until my zagg comes in I prefer to keep it in the gel...not as slick & keeps the screen(when face down) off the flat surface.
A tipp for all you guys getting dust under the screen:
I always apply a new screen protector in my bathroom after showering - the steam in the air (the more steam, the better) binds most of the dust particles and makes it A LOT easier to get a perfect result!
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A tipp for all you guys getting dust under the screen:
I always apply a new screen protector in my bathroom after showering - the steam in the air (the more steam, the better) binds most of the dust particles and makes it A LOT easier to get a perfect result!
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I agree, I used to do this back in the day before Zagg came around. It works great.
I have read with other products people use a drop or water/soap water before applying a screen protector. Has anyone used this method on this device? i am concerned that the water will somehow ruin the device. I know it's only a drop or 2 but wanted to get some feedback first before i tried it.
Hey everyone,
I recently purchases a custom zagg skin and the invsibleSHIELD ,
The zaggskin is easy to put on the back of your HD2 , its a little bit smaller, but that makes the process of putting it on easier (It took me like 2 min?),
Before the invsibleSHIELD I tried various screen-protectors , but I always had bubbles or dust underneath them.
With the invsibleSHIELD I just followed instructions , and volla , no airbubles, no dust , its makes the screen even brighter.
One negative point about it, its pricey , i ordered mine during Memorial Day (50 percent off),
Regards,
PS: Sorry for my bad english
How can a cover make the screen brighter? Are these skins polarized or something? I'm curious.
All this is rubbish, I understand the need for a big silicon or hard cover to protect your phone from drops but what is the point of the invisible shield when you cant scratch the phone anyway. There is no way it can make the screen brighter, or make you see better in the sun.
Some screen protector companies even claimed that only the person looking right at the device can see the screen, so therefore if someone was trying to peak over to see what you are doing they couldn't, well I ordered that and obviously it is not true not even slightly dimmed from the sides. so don't believe everything they say.
invisible shield
i wont take the chance of scratching my screen even if its impossible
invisible shield is not only on the front but on the back too.
its less sensitive for oily fingerprints - maybe that is why it looks a little bit brighter than without. before i had it, it was difficult to see in sunlight and now its better.
plus, the device wont slip of your hand, again do to the back cover.
so, i recommend invisible shield sincerely
cheers
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My zagg sheild pretty much rendered my HD2 useless. The screen was really desensitized way too much. I'm not surprised...the zagg shield is so thick and durable that if I didn't have to "touch use" my screen, it would have been perfect. I ended up tearing of the $20+ protector and discarding it...
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My zagg sheild pretty much rendered my HD2 useless. The screen was really desensitized way too much. I'm not surprised...the zagg shield is so thick and durable that if I didn't have to "touch use" my screen, it would have been perfect. I ended up tearing of the $20+ protector and discarding it...
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No problems here, and the screen protector isn't that thick, its just even thick like any other screen protector ,
Munto said:
All this is rubbish, I understand the need for a big silicon or hard cover to protect your phone from drops but what is the point of the invisible shield when you cant scratch the phone anyway. There is no way it can make the screen brighter, or make you see better in the sun.
Some screen protector companies even claimed that only the person looking right at the device can see the screen, so therefore if someone was trying to peak over to see what you are doing they couldn't, well I ordered that and obviously it is not true not even slightly dimmed from the sides. so don't believe everything they say.
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The HD2 screen can be scratched, there are examples of it on this forum, just search.
Spending $10-20 on a quality screen protector is probably the cheapest insurance you could get to protect your screen if/when you scratch the protector and the scratch becomes unbearable, spend $10-20 on a new one
Though Ive not seen one before for mobile phones, there are privacy screens for laptop/desktop monitors. These screens significantly blur the image unless you are directly in front of the screen, if you tilt the screen more than 10degrees or so the screen will blur. These are used a lot in medical/financial institutions, sensitive departments within companies like HR. Ive seen these appearing on ATMs now too
I will agree there is no protector that will make your screen "brighter" that's just about impossible, anything put over the screen is actually going to attenuate any light coming though it, though it may not be perceivable. Certain protectors may eliminate screen glare, making the screen easier to see in certain lighting conditions
ohhh yeah, believe me the screen CAN be scratched! got two very nice ones to prove it. lol
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The HD2 screen can be scratched, there are examples of it on this forum, just search. ....
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Well about the brighter , i have the the shield now for a week, the screen looks better because there are no fingerprints on the screen , further its scrolls smoother
Sorry but I'd stay clear from Zagg's Invisible Shiled as it is not really effective nor fully stand their claim "as advertised".
After 3-4 months of use (in tropical countries or desert areas), the sands/dirts snug into the linings, then started to peel off little by little.
Had this product on my Fuze and then my Topaz a while back, not very happy about it.
The only good things about the product is (1)fancy retail packaging, and (2)their screen protector. Sorry.
This cover is useless. I removed it after a couple of hours. What's the use of having a screen protector that doesn't cover the whole screen? Apart from the fact that it makes the screen look ugly.
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This cover is useless. I removed it after a couple of hours. What's the use of having a screen protector that doesn't cover the whole screen? Apart from the fact that it makes the screen look ugly.
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It needs to sit for at least 12 or more hours to let the solution and bubbles disappear. If you had it on for a couple of hours and not days, then you did not read the instructions If applied properly you should not see it. If it looks ugly, it was not done properly or you did not let it cure long enough before using the device.
I have noticed that not all of the plastic used with Zagg products seem to be the same. I have applied one on my Tilt2 (aka. Touch Pro 2) and it did not feel like the texture of an "orange peal" like I have seen written in some reviews. I no longer have the Invisa Shield on the screen as it started to come up on the edges by the chrome phone edging causing lint, dust, etc. to collect under. I also noticed it turn a slight yellow. The colour change was odd as I don't smoke or hang out with smokers. It could be from rubbing against the lining of my leather case I kept it in (although it has a black lining).
At my work we have a Zagg promo for Apple iPads and this is where I have come across the "orange peal" texture on a few of the installs. I don't think it is due to improper install as we always use the same solution and method of install for each one.
In short:
the pros: it protects well against scratches and minimizes the look of finger prints
the cons: could gain a yellow tinge after several months, not easy to remove dust/dirt if it gets under edges, and not easy to apply first time around for most.
My advice for capacitive screens is to not spend lots on a screen protector. The cheep vinyl protectors may not look as good but will work just as well. Remember: all capacitive screens are made of glass which will not scratch under normal use. If you keep your phone in your pocket, the chances for scratching will increase as sand or tiny bits of gravel can collect in the lining and rub against the screen. Even keys can scratch if enough pressure is applied. For those who saw the YouTube HD2 scratch test, did you see how much pressure was applied to the keys, knife, and scissors? Not enough to scratch it, add enough and it will...
Dangerously said:
It needs to sit for at least 12 or more hours to let the solution and bubbles disappear. If you had it on for a couple of hours and not days, then you did not read the instructions If applied properly you should not see it. If it looks ugly, it was not done properly or you did not let it cure long enough before using the device.
I have noticed that not all of the plastic used with Zagg products seem to be the same. I have applied one on my Tilt2 (aka. Touch Pro 2) and it did not feel like the texture of an "orange peal" like I have seen written in some reviews. I no longer have the Invisa Shield on the screen as it started to come up on the edges by the chrome phone edging causing lint, dust, etc. to collect under. I also noticed it turn a slight yellow. The colour change was odd as I don't smoke or hang out with smokers. It could be from rubbing against the lining of my leather case I kept it in (although it has a black lining).
At my work we have a Zagg promo for Apple iPads and this is where I have come across the "orange peal" texture on a few of the installs. I don't think it is due to improper install as we always use the same solution and method of install for each one.
In short:
the pros: it protects well against scratches and minimizes the look of finger prints
the cons: could gain a yellow tinge after several months, not easy to remove dust/dirt if it gets under edges, and not easy to apply first time around for most.
My advice for capacitive screens is to not spend lots on a screen protector. The cheep vinyl protectors may not look as good but will work just as well. Remember: all capacitive screens are made of glass which will not scratch under normal use. If you keep your phone in your pocket, the chances for scratching will increase as sand or tiny bits of gravel can collect in the lining and rub against the screen. Even keys can scratch if enough pressure is applied. For those who saw the YouTube HD2 scratch test, did you see how much pressure was applied to the keys, knife, and scissors? Not enough to scratch it, add enough and it will...
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How many times there have to be said that this capacitive screen is not made from GLASS, there are enough people one the web which HD2 got scratched, believe they will scratch
I have the full body zagg skin. Gotta say it's great. Simple to apply and really keeps the device from getting scratched. Even protects the corner. Don't get what the complaint above was about. It covers the screen so wtf are you talking about? Only thing I wish they'd fix is that you can't apply a skin or case over it. If you do it'll get stuck to it unless it's like a cloth case or something. Hope they fix that issue one day. Still not bad, plus I did like the OP and ordered on Memorial Day for like 12 dollars.
How does it cover the Back ?
in 3 parts does it ?
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ilordvader said:
How does it cover the Back ?
in 3 parts does it ?
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ya, but it does not cover 100 percent
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ya, but it does not cover 100 percent
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front & back to get a idea how it looks
Thanks
Glue softens
I have to say I was happy for around 5 months - until it started to get warmer. Then the glue started to soften and smear out from under the shield. It made the screen look a bit of a mess and ultimatly the corners started to flap about because all of the glue had gone. Contacted Zagg customer support and they admitted this can happen when warm and humid. They suggested I use their replacement service but why should I pay around 6€ for postage in both directions if as soon as it gets warm it will be a mess again. Not very impressed. I'll stick to the electrostatic screen shields in the future. Can anybody recommend one?
So I picked up a screen protector on Amazon by ArmorSuit... it seemed to have solid reviews and I heard reports of great customer service, so I spent the 20 bones to pick one up. I just now applied it, and it went on well without a hitch. Since it was a wet protector and majority of my screen protector experience was with dry ones, I watched the YouTube video and also thoroughly read the instructions. Last thing I wanted to do was install a wet protector incorrectly and mess up my device.
Once done I checked out the finish. Despite the fact it's been 20 minutes and not 12-24 hours like they say to let it sit, I noticed lots of tiny scratches on it, which definitely looked like it was from the applicator card. What baffles me more is I have a microfiber cloth that came with the kit that I was wiping the screen off with... I noticed even swirly scratches after I was done, yet this microfiber cloth has nothing in it whatsoever!
Er, uh. Has anybody ran into anything like this with screen protector application?
Despite this, I'm still relatively happy with the screen protector as it fits perfectly and was very quick and easy to install. That being said, I'm still a little disappointed in what I'm seeing here, but I'd still trade hairline scratches that aren't that visibleat all (and not visible whatsoever with the screen lit up) versus air bubbles and dust pockets which clearly are visible regardless... which is almost always the case with dry protectors... Don't get me wrong, it's not like it's a series of key-gouging lines here, but when video installation guide shows the tilted tablet glaring off of the ceiling light to show it is 100% smooth and flush with a perfect glass-like surface, that's where I can see these very fine marks.
Maybe, just maybe, this is some sort of epic self-healing screen protector that'll remove those blemishes over the next day as it sits. :laugh: Yes, just maybe.
EDIT, er... uh... under the bulleted list of features I found these two items that I may have overlooked when I first purchased it:
Self-healing technology , Military grade material engineered for your specific device
ArmorSuit Lifetime Replacement Warranty *Made in the USA*
lol????
My ArmorSuit came with a nice horizontal scratch in it and these visible shallow 'gouges'. I'm guessing from the installation card. I'm getting rid of it as it just doesn't look clean. Looks like a thin slab of rubber and not perfectly flat like the glass. YMMV though as I know I didn't install it Grade A, but still, I can't imagine that this screen protector can look or feel like glass.
Part of me like the feel of these wet protectors, but it does feel unnatural and sort of tiring to use. I opted for the 3-pack of CrazyOnDigital (clear) protectors. I figure I will mess up 1, get 1 right, and keep 1 for next year.
For installing via wet method (sounds dirty no? lol) you have to get almost everything but the device "wet". That includes your fingers and the screen protector (both sides) itself and also the squeegee or card or whatever you call it...
I have seen what is called 'burn' marks if not properly wet. Sucks I know! But The wet products in my experience are always great when finally dry. I have the XO skin and it's about totally dry. Looks great IMO.
"burn marks" sounds about right
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For installing via wet method (sounds dirty no? lol) you have to get almost everything but the device "wet". That includes your fingers and the screen protector (both sides) itself and also the squeegee or card or whatever you call it...
I have seen what is called 'burn' marks if not properly wet. Sucks I know! But The wet products in my experience are always great when finally dry. I have the XO skin and it's about totally dry. Looks great IMO.
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I'm not sure how much more wet you can get a screen protector when it's already dripping, which was the status of it when I placed it on the screen. Likewise, I did wash my hands just prior and also had my hands both completely saturated in the provided fluid.
Burn marks sounds like some food for thought, but I'm unsure how you can get a burn mark from a microfiber cloth when I'm wiping the screen off in a circular motion. I mean, I didn't attach it to a circular sander or anything...
So in the event this magical self healing thing doesn't live up, what other screen protector would you guys recommend? I definitely want to go with a wet application, as I'm already able to tell a world of difference, but I'm a little dissatisfied with how incredibly sensitive this protector is to scratches. It's great you can take a dremel to it and it still protects the actual tablet screen but when a microfiber cloth scratches it I can't say it impresses me.
EDIT - Just got an email response from them minutes ago. The bulk of the message is pasted below:
Regarding the marks on your screen protector:
Any filmy marks, air bubbles, swirl marks or haze underneath the screen protector is due to the solution, which can take up to 2 weeks to go away. It typically doesn't take this long, but it will eventually go away because the material is designed to be breathable. This will release any trapped solution.
Regarding the scratches on your screen, here is a quick and easy fix.
1. Please turn off your device.
2. With your screen protector still on your device, spray 1 pump on the screen protector and then spread the solution evenly with the included microfiber cloth.
3. The scratches should then disappear soon, within a few days at the very most because the material is self-healing.
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I guess I'll have to be a little more patient and see what happens.
Not sure why they don't just put this in the instructions, but here's a trick:
When you're pushing the bubbles out, put the piece of plastic that you peeled the protector off of over the screen. Don't ever use the squeegee directly on the screen.
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Not sure why they don't just put this in the instructions, but here's a trick:
When you're pushing the bubbles out, put the piece of plastic that you peeled the protector off of over the screen. Don't ever use the squeegee directly on the screen.
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I thought the same thing, but once I realized that the microfiber cloth was giving swirl marks, that whole premise behind that idea kind of crumbled. If a microfiber cloth will legitimently give this screen protector swirl scratches from wiping it clean, then that's pretty fail.
That being said, I'm remaining quite optimistic about this "self healing" thing. Maybe I will see them slowly disappear? Who knows. It is a little more comforting knowing they have a lifetime guarantee, but we'll tackle that conversation when/if it ever becomes necessary. At any rate, I keep reminding myself - at least the screen protector still looks 1000% better than any dry screen protector AND it's protecting the screen in the process. :good:
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My ArmorSuit came with a nice horizontal scratch in it and these visible shallow 'gouges'. I'm guessing from the installation card. I'm getting rid of it as it just doesn't look clean. Looks like a thin slab of rubber and not perfectly flat like the glass. YMMV though as I know I didn't install it Grade A, but still, I can't imagine that this screen protector can look or feel like glass.
Part of me like the feel of these wet protectors, but it does feel unnatural and sort of tiring to use. I opted for the 3-pack of CrazyOnDigital (clear) protectors. I figure I will mess up 1, get 1 right, and keep 1 for next year.
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I ordered the exact same 3-pack and I have to say they're great. Got it perfect on the first try and it looks crystal clear. It looks a lot better than those $10-$20 dollar protectors out there.
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So after going through many TGSPs and finding pretty much all of them terrible, I found a off-the-wall solution that seems to tic off all of the major check marks for me:
Smooth glass-like surface
Great touchscreen sensitivity
Great optical clarity
Won't peel off (obviously)
Turns out, it's not just one solution, but a combination of two different screen protectors used in conjunction. This might be a long post but stay with me here.
First thing I tried long ago was the wet-apply TPU stuff from IQ-Shield. It's actually a great product if you put it on properly and is fairly inexpensive. The application might be a pain for some (I didn't mind it so much). But I'd always hated the texture and tackiness of the surface. Also, it's aways a bit sharp at the edges that it bothered me to hold it. And strangely, these are easy to scratch. The scratches really show on them too. They're also smudge magnet and look terrible unless thoroughly clean.
Then I tried all of the major TGSPs on the market (GPEL, ZAGG, AmazingThing and a few cheaper stuff) and while many of them looked great, the glare and touchscreen sensitivity was always anywhere between inadequate to terrible.
Then I looked in this PET(I think?) plastic stuff from G-Color
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FTUB74S..._t1_B01FTUB74I
Turns out this stuff is pretty great. It honestly feels as smooth as glass. Looks like glass. Screen sensitivity was awesome. clarity was amazing. I can also atest to it durability as well. I'd been moving my futon around a bit and had the phone perched on the the backrest. The phone fell onto the metal frame of the futon, glassface first. the impact messed up the screen protector and it got warped at the impact site, but the phone glass was fine. Great start so I ordered another immediately.
But low and behold, after another two weeks or so of usage, the edge began to lift. Turns out the silicone adhesive, which works fine on flat glass, doesn't do so well with curved glass long term.
Disappointed, I thought about ways of giving it extra adhesion then I remembered that the TPU stuff is very tacky. So I washed and re-applied (wet) the IQ-Shield stuff. I let it set until all the air and water bubbles disappeared (about two days). Then I washed the G-Color piece (it had lint and dust stuck on it). I applied that one wet as well (yes you can apply PET protectors wet) right on top of the IQ-Shield. Gave it another few ways days to set and the bubbles disappeared. I was astonished by the results. I got all of the things I was look for above. I tried force peeling the edge off and I was very surprised how hard it was to do. I gave it three weeks and it had been flawless.
I went and bought another G-Color piece (this time in white). Of course taking the first (gold) one off you probably have to reapply the TPU one underneath. A second round of thorough washing and reapplying the IQ-Shield (I didn't have to buy a new one. As long as you wash it correctly with dish soap and are careful, you can reuse them). Once again, let it set over a couple of days.
Since it was the first time I applied the new G-Color piece, I applied it dry as instructed on package. You'd only need to apply the PET stuff wet if you're reapplying for second time after washing. The first time should be dry using the guide stickers. The results were similar (maybe a bit better since I was using a brand new G-Color piece). It's been a month and a half now. Flawless. Well almost: Since I applied the G-Color with white bezel over a black phone, its white part is not as bright-white as it could be. More like a white-grey, but unless you butt it up to another white phone, you won't notice. The gold one looks completely gold.
So now I have a phone protected by two layers. The two layers together are also a bit thinner than a single TGSP. It looks completely like glass and I've been amazed how scratched resistant it has been. They're also smudge and fingerprint resistent.
Another check mark that might matter to some, but not me: Case-friendliness. Those that have such cases, this might not work so well since this goes pretty close to the edge of the glass. It does leave about a .5mm around the edge. I personally would have liked it to go all the way to the edge but I don't know how that would effect the adhesion. None of my cases wrap around the edge of the glass so it never affected me at all.
Hope this helps someone.
Tip: When applying wet after washing with dish soap, try not to completly wash off the dish soap. A bit of dish soap remaining will help you with positioning the protector since it will allow you to slide it around a bit. Once you're in position, pressing down (especially around the home button, ear speaker and camera cut-outs) will hold it in place while you squeegy the remaining water out. I like to use my finger and roll it to push water out. Try not to slide you finger across the surface as it might catch and pull the protector out of position. Don't worry about air or water bubbles too much. They will slowly disappear over a few days.
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Thanks for those VERY complete tips, I shall follow your guidelines reapplying my TGSP!
Just curious how your solution is holding up. I just bought an S7 edge, so I'm in the market for a good screen protection solution. This sounds like a pain, but it also sounds like it may just be worth it!
TIA!
Wow, lots of folks posted about the soft screen which resulted in a screen protector being applied, however now the talk is about screen peeling. I hear the fix is Moto charges 50 bucks and adds another screen or screen protector. Not sure whats going on so about you folks........any screen peeling problems/solutions. This could be a major FAIL again on this flag ship!
No issues here.
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Wow, lots of folks posted about the soft screen which resulted in a screen protector being applied, however now the talk is about screen peeling. I hear the fix is Moto charges 50 bucks and adds another screen or screen protector. Not sure whats going on so about you folks........any screen peeling problems/solutions. This could be a major FAIL again on this flag ship!
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I don't have a problem with it and my screen has been abused already although if your having that issue then you may have done something to it on accident I don't believe it's the phone
yes the screen is VERY soft. small nick-nack scratches on mine. The glass protectors don't really fit, and because of the plastic cover motorola installed, its makes the touches very inaccurate when a tempered glass protector is installed.
next version, I hope they just go flat glass and leave the so called shatterproof technology alone
No issues at all. Screen protector fit perfectly from day one and it applied fast.
Removed Plastic coating
My screen was scratched pretty bad so I removed the plastic screen. I used a heat gun and digital thermometer and did the same steps as you would replacing the digitizer. You can heat the screen up to 180 to 200 degrees without damaging the board,screen, or and digitizer. It can go higher but don't push it this the only fragile part of the phone I found so far but it is. I used a razor blade after heating the screen up and at the corner carefully to start peeling the coating and once you get started a little at the corner start using the cards Don't pull on the plastic when the glue soften because you will be pulling the screen the rest of the plastic is still stuck to use playing cards to get between the lcd and the plastic coating which is basically a factory installed screen protector with a lot of sticky glue. Don't force the card push as far as you can with light pressure when it won't progress any further stop and heat the screen up again grab another playing card and continue to use cards to take that plastic coating off. And you want to leave the cards as you go. When done you are going to have to clean the residue off it will take a little time but when your done put on a high end protector like I used the Za??. My screen works perfectly to the touch and those scratches are not there except one and is was the san andreas fault of scratches before I took the coating off..
I removed mine also. Although I used a less technical method. I just pulled the top layer off and then spent some time scratching at the screen with my fingernail and using alcohol to help with the glue. Took a while for sure. I heard Goo Gone works great for me this.
I got my Z2 Force shortly after the launch date last year, and I have had zero issues with it. It's obvious that the shattershield screen is easily scratched, so I put a screen protector on it right away and it remains scratch free to this day. There's a lot of bad screen protectors out there these days that are warped and won't stay adhered to the screen, so it's important to look at those reviews to make sure you get a good one. I should also note that I constantly flip my phone around in my hand for some reason and I end up dropping it all the time, and I still have had no issues at all. There's not a sign of peeling anywhere.