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I know this is a stupid question, but I see "kang" pop up in a lot of things related to Cyanogen and I guess lifting things without credit? I'm not sure.
What's the history behind it?
i think this might get you going in the right direction:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/home/android-soap-opera-ultimate-droid
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/home/the-good-guys-win
I've also know what it was all about, and everything that happened. But I still don't know what kang means. Those posts don't help. I've always just assumed it was a word someone made up and it means 'stolen' or something.
Only official definition I can find is:
a masonry or earthen platform at one end of a room, heated in winter by fires underneath and spread with mats for sleeping.
Pretty sure that's not it.
bfspider said:
i think this might get you going in the right direction:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/home/android-soap-opera-ultimate-droid
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/home/the-good-guys-win
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Oh! I remember that! I guess I didn't read closely enough into the first post. Thanks
Kang means to take somebody else's work and put it to good use. Credit is expected but occasionally not given.
"Ganked" is the more common Internet term, meaning the same thing.
From Urban Dictionary:
Kanged
The act of having your meeting hijacked, in favor of a convoluted and meandering presentation of impractical concepts that can never be implemented. Also a term for a discussion that impacts you, but does not include you.
"I got Kanged at the new business presentation yesterday"
lnjryan said:
From Urban Dictionary:
Kanged
The act of having your meeting hijacked, in favor of a convoluted and meandering presentation of impractical concepts that can never be implemented. Also a term for a discussion that impacts you, but does not include you.
"I got Kanged at the new business presentation yesterday"
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Perhaps, but that's not what it means here...
didn't it have something to do with KingKlick92?
i might have missed it. but i remember they started saying kanged after some dispute with him.
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not that again!
I like the term "Gaffled", but that may be just an "urban thang"...
it means to steal.
oh and check this out:
http://wootroot.com/cyandroid/
agentkalaw said:
it means to steal.
oh and check this out:
http://wootroot.com/cyandroid/
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No man, it is to take and make better. CM Kangs HTC APIs and Source to produce a better API or Source. CM intentionally avoids using anything closed source as that IS stealing.
its the same thing as a "snarfblack".
Obviously its an acronym that stands for 'killin all nexus gangtas', and when something gets kanged, it gets owned.
werd.
http://www.absolutelyandroid.com/new-cyanogen-nightlies-feature-additional-pr0tip/
I wasn't going to respond to this since it was so old, but it seems there are many different ideas on what KANGs actually are. They are just unofficial builds. Ones that use the CM codebase and are then compiled. They can have additional patches included, but generally are closely linked to CyanogenMod. One of the more popular KANG builds was Fitsnugly's Gigglebread. He would take the codebase and add a few patches that looked interesting/promising and compile it for others to test out.
CM releases their code opensource under the Apache license. While this does mean that anyone can take that code and do whatever they want with it (including removing any and all signs on where it came from), it is generally an accepted practice to acknowledge where the work originally came from. KANGs are perfectly acceptable (and encouraged), but the CM dev team would just like to have credit for their hardwork.
Amrosorma said:
I know this is a stupid question, but I see "kang" pop up in a lot of things related to Cyanogen and I guess lifting things without credit? I'm not sure.
What's the history behind it?
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Yep... from back in the G1/HTC Dream days.... that guy would steal code and claim it as his own. I think that "Kang" is a different pronunciation of "King", from that username. Wow, nostalgia...
djmcnz said:
Kang means to take somebody else's work and put it to good use. Credit is expected but occasionally not given.
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Yea, way to use my picture, too -_- fail
Hey all,
I found this floating round the cyber space....
http://www.petitiononline.com/honey30/
lets all sign it and see what happens!
The reasoning behind keeping the Honeycomb source closed right now is pretty sound, imo. They know that the Android community will hack it until it will run on phones. It was not developed for phones. So, what they are doing is cleaning up the HC code so that when it hits AOSP it won't be a pile of hacks and will work well on phones as well as tablets. None of the devices HC is coming out on from corporate partners are putting HC on devices smaller than 7 inches. Google will post it when it's ready for AOSP and the Android community.
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The reasoning behind keeping the Honeycomb source closed right now is pretty sound, imo. They know that the Android community will hack it until it will run on phones. It was not developed for phones. So, what they are doing is cleaning up the HC code so that when it hits AOSP it won't be a pile of hacks and will work well on phones as well as tablets. None of the devices HC is coming out on from corporate partners are putting HC on devices smaller than 7 inches. Google will post it when it's ready for AOSP and the Android community.
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I agree, at first i was a lil mad but google has done good work so far, and they have professionals that know what theyre doing. Good things come to those that wait.
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The reasoning behind keeping the Honeycomb source closed right now is pretty sound, imo. They know that the Android community will hack it until it will run on phones. It was not developed for phones. So, what they are doing is cleaning up the HC code so that when it hits AOSP it won't be a pile of hacks and will work well on phones as well as tablets. None of the devices HC is coming out on from corporate partners are putting HC on devices smaller than 7 inches. Google will post it when it's ready for AOSP and the Android community.
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Agreed completely.
i can haz honeycombs?!
I too agree with the previous posters. Honeycomb will be released in due time
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I too agree with the previous posters. Honeycomb will be released in due time
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or ice cream, more likely (if it turns out to be the merging of phone and tablet versions of android).
Have we all turned into "Google Fanboys" - like google can do no wrong?
It should not be up to Google what the android community does with HC. Who cares if they put it on a phone and it doesn't work? Then....uh....people won't put HC on their phones.
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Have we all turned into "Google Fanboys" - like google can do no wrong?
It should not be up to Google what the android community does with HC. Who cares if they put it on a phone and it doesn't work? Then....uh....people won't put HC on their phones.
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I really don't think that's it at all.
I mean, have you used a Xoom? That isn't exactly what I'd call a flawless operating system.
Also, this sense of entitlement people are displaying - as if Google owes them the Honeycomb source because a single tablet has been released running it - has been really hard for me to wrap my head around.
Regardless, all of this probably belongs in the HCGenDis thread, so I won't be surprised if this is closed/deleted.
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It should not be up to Google what the android community does with HC.
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It's not up to the android community what Google does with HC. We don't own Google. Google doesn't owe us anything. As much as I'd like to have HC source code now, we just have to wait. This me, me, me, now, now now entitlement mentality doesn't help.
HC was released too early, they want to polish it.
MOD:
Please merge this thread into the existing:
[USER] Android 3.0 Honeycomp Discussion thread
Thanks!
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It's not up to the android community what Google does with HC. We don't own Google. Google doesn't owe us anything. As much as I'd like to have HC source code now, we just have to wait. This me, me, me, now, now now entitlement mentality doesn't help.
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Most interpretations of "free software" (open source's older, wiser, quarreling brother) would say that the handset makers and/or Google do owe Xoom owners the source code.
Which is why, I guess, they use "open source" licenses that don't technically require they do that.
It still grates against the "spirit" of the licenses to some of us.
I was VERY pissed about the lack of AOSP Honeycomb, then I tried a Xoom.
SD cards don't work, it is VERY laggy (even with a dual core overclocked), and many apps force close.
I have come to the conclusion that the REAL reason Google held back Honeycomb is because if people looked under the hood they would find maybe the worst hack-job of an OS in modern times. This would blemish the Android tablet market before it really starts, piss off Xoom owners that paid a premium to be beta testers, and give the Apple Zealots in the world a new drum to beat.
So to avoid that, Honeycomb is closed until its a real OS. I just wish Google was more upfront about their reasons.
Internet petitions, doing exactly nothing since 1989.
You want Googles attention attach a couple million bucks to each signature and they might care.
xdabr said:
Most interpretations of "free software" (open source's older, wiser, quarreling brother) would say that the handset makers and/or Google do owe Xoom owners the source code.
Which is why, I guess, they use "open source" licenses that don't technically require they do that.
It still grates against the "spirit" of the licenses to some of us.
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What in the world are you talking about?
The ONLY right interpretation of it is that they are required to give the kernel source code. Anything THEY coded is entirely up to them.
notinterested said:
What in the world are you talking about?
The ONLY right interpretation of it is that they are required to give the kernel source code. Anything THEY coded is entirely up to them.
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Not sure if you're just trolling, but I didn't say anything contrary to what you did?
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Not sure if you're just trolling, but I didn't say anything contrary to what you did?
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Kernel != Whole OS
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Kernel != Whole OS
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Right, and I already said they weren't required to provide source code because of the licenses (Apache and GPL2) they chose. Is this a joke or something?
It is very obvious and I know that I am late to discuss this, but here is the actual patent application: US 2009/0249247, if you search the applicants - they appear on other applications assigned to Google. Just my 2 cents...
http://www.google.com/patents?id=r9...urce=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
Honestly, in the end, I don't think it will matter. If it's a really good feature that people want, a company will put it in their product, regardless of competitors or patents.
It will, however, be interesting to see if lawsuits are thrown out there over this and other copied features.
Apple would and currently does sue anyone who tried to use anything remotely like one of their patents. I think other companies should do the same to them.
Honestly, the idea is so simple that it should not be patentable, and therein lies alot of our countries issues with stupid lawsuits, but since it is patented it should be used against apple.
...they also copied WP7 with the dedicated camera button, and BB with the messenging...and now they have a cloud....
The entire new iOS is just adopting features that other platforms already had. They should all just sue...
Just to clear, the patent application that appears to be filled by Google is just that an application and not a patent yet. However, it will be interesting to see what happens once they get it.
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This will be interesting to see how some users respond to this. I think RIM might need some work on their gear to catch up. Android kills all, and iPhone, as mentioned above is playing catch up.
As much as I hate how Apple's new features were "inspired" by other OS its essential that these companies build on each other cause in the end its benefiting us the users.
The difference is that iOs5 is lacking a clear all button
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The difference is that iOs5 is lacking a clear all button
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Shocking omission.
hy,
im not sure if im doing something wrong but the google appstore is very incoherent, i dont even want to mention the other stores.
i was trying for example, to find resident evil 4 on the samsung store but found streetfighter 4 instead witch i cannot find on the google store nor anywhere.
streetfighter 4 was, by all sources on google first only exclusive for LG devices and then was expanded to some devices in japan, so i shouldnt even see it.
but alright thats the samsung store i dont expect much of that anyway .. but the google store is the same crap basically.
i go on my samsung s4 in the appstore app i press the menu button and select my apps and i got two tabs one says installed the other all.
on the installed tab i should see all apps installed on my device regardless if i got them from the samsung store or any other source i could have also downloaded an apk and installed it manually.
the i open my browser and go to the google app store .. what do i got there? i have on the left a link to my apps now i am supposed to get all my apps listed there ... and also one has that little gear icon witch is there for settings on it there is an option saying MY ORDERS that lists everything i ever purchased from the google appstore.
now the issue is that in the list of my apps on the browser i dont have the same items as on the list that the mobile app store gives me i am missing believe it or not even GOOGLE VOICE SEARCH witch appears on my mobile.
now the most retarded thing about this hole thing is that i got on my device in the all tap listed 2 samsung apps witch are the SAMSUNG HUB and PHOTO EDITOR when i go into details on both i get a message saying this app is not compatible with your device.
i cannot find neither of these apps on the google app store when i use the search embeded in the store app.
if this is really the android system then i take a crap on it. IS IT SO HARD TO MAKE THING COHERENT... I CANNOT IMAGINE ANYTHING SIMPLER IN THE HOLE PROCESS OF DEVELOPMENT OF AN ANDROID SYSTEM. i dont want to get thrown to by all this trash produced by a bunch of different standards different appstores but as you can see also within each store itselt.
I SO REGREAD BUYING THE S4 ILL NEVER CHANGE FROM APPLE AGAIN.
is it really so that in the process of developing a system like android google or samsung or whoever just says ok ... we developed all the core stuff we dont care about the UI just get the thing ready for sale
I've never had problems with it. Try re-installing it.
Edit: Judging by your lack of spelling and such, I'm assuming you're from a different country. That also affects what's available in the Play Store.
Complain about Samsung's App Store to Samsung and complain about Amazon's App Store to Amazon.
Writing an essay *****ing about everything isn't going to fix everything.
electro` said:
I've never had problems with it. Try re-installing it.
Edit: Judging by your lack of spelling and such, I'm assuming you're from a different country. That also affects what's available in the Play Store.
Complain about Samsung's App Store to Samsung and complain about Amazon's App Store to Amazon.
Writing an essay *****ing about everything isn't going to fix everything.
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im not *****ing you are just blind or occupied with your playstation or something these are real issues and *****ing is the only thing one has left when GOOGLE AND SAMSUNG ... giant companies, are to stupid to make things as they should but i rather believe that they dont mind about costumers.
if you say that you have no issues, than maybe you havent checked all the stuff i mentioned above i allready took into account the fact that not all aps are available in all countries on the google appstore not sure if its the same on samsungs store.
i checked all spelling before posting really dont know where you found misspelled words
another thing is that i cannot find google magazines but i can find google books witch is just ridiculous... i want to throw out.
google is in everything they make incoherent and lackish.
i have no idea what is so hard about it but apple seems to be the only electronics company out there that can be trusted trully.
Unfortunately that's not how Google Play works. It's only going to show you what you installed via Google Play because those are they only ones it can determine you legally own. Same goes for the Amazon App store.
Google Play Web has always had issues displaying my apps. I think that's more of a limitation of the Web Developer and/or what they're using.
The issue you're having with the apps not being compatible with your device isn't Google Play's fault but the app developer's fault as they flag what the app is and isn't compatible with.
Funny how you mention Apple does it better but you have to remember there's only one maker of the iPhone so there's no worries about compatibility while there are many makers of Android Phones so compatibility's going to be an issue.
Kyuta Syuko said:
Unfortunately that's not how Google Play works. It's only going to show you what you installed via Google Play because those are they only ones it can determine you legally own. Same goes for the Amazon App store.
Google Play Web has always had issues displaying my apps. I think that's more of a limitation of the Web Developer and/or what they're using.
The issue you're having with the apps not being compatible with your device isn't Google Play's fault but the app developer's fault as they flag what the app is and isn't compatible with.
Funny how you mention Apple does it better but you have to remember there's only one maker of the iPhone so there's no worries about compatibility while there are many makers of Android Phones so compatibility's going to be an issue.
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Thats exactly right my friend these dudes dont even care to make a unique standard for everyone to follow like if thats a problem they cant handle ... just that we are stupid and buy their crap. I made that mistake the last time I cant believe I got myself convinced that android could be even close to apple even the sound quality is superb on iphone earpieses CAN ANYONE JUST BELIEVE THIS CRAP I CANT FOR SUR... and the thing why I cant believe it is because it is like the easyest thing to do.
Last videogame I played on pc, I couldnt setup the freacking controls for my gamepad right LIKE IF THATS A BIG DEAL ... ****ING MONKEYS
adrovic.ad said:
im not *****ing you are just blind or occupied with your playstation or something these are real issues and *****ing is the only thing one has left when GOOGLE AND SAMSUNG ... giant companies, are to stupid to make things as they should but i rather believe that they dont mind about costumers.
if you say that you have no issues, than maybe you havent checked all the stuff i mentioned above i allready took into account the fact that not all aps are available in all countries on the google appstore not sure if its the same on samsungs store.
i checked all spelling before posting really dont know where you found misspelled words
another thing is that i cannot find google magazines but i can find google books witch is just ridiculous... i want to throw out.
google is in everything they make incoherent and lackish.
i have no idea what is so hard about it but apple seems to be the only electronics company out there that can be trusted trully.
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Why are you taking this as an attack? For your information, I don't even own a gaming console. Obviously you're not checking your spelling well enough. Anyway, All those app stores don't tie into each other because they don't share records. I really don't see what the point of this thread was to be honest.
If you're really that dissatisfied quit complaining and go to an iPhone and deal with the issues they have.
adrovic.ad said:
i checked all spelling before posting really dont know where you found misspelled words
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well yeah, if you knew which were misspelled you probably would've fixed 'em when initially typing.
Here's some help though:
adrovic.ad said:
hy,
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should be "Hi" with an I.
adrovic.ad said:
streetfighter 4 instead witch i cannot
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Technically that's spelled correctly, but the word you want is "which" not witch.
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witch appears on my mobile.
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Again... which.
adrovic.ad said:
the most retarded thing about this hole thing
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Again, correct, yet wrong. "whole" not "hole".
adrovic.ad said:
on the google app store when i use the search embeded in the store app.
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Embedded.
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HOLE PROCESS OF DEVELOPMENT
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WHOLE.
adrovic.ad said:
you can see also within each store itselt.
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itself. With an F.
adrovic.ad said:
I SO REGREAD BUYING THE S4
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REGRET
All those app stores don't tie into each other because they don't share records.
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This is the reason I think he's mad. Like only having repos to discover there are other things out there. Wonder how he'd flip on windows lol
adrovic.ad said:
these dudes dont even care to make a unique standard for everyone to follow
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Android is about Open Source. Unlike macs proprietary world, android wants you to have the freedom of choice. Unfortunately this means everyone wants to be a choice. There's no reason to try out a million markets. You can usually find what you need in 1. If not, use a search engine, not other markets. Just easier that way.
adrovic.ad said:
CAN ANYONE JUST BELIEVE THIS CRAP I CANT FOR SUR... and the thing why I cant believe it is because it is like the easyest thing to do.
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like spell "sure" and "easiest"?
Lol, sorry, couldn't help myself.
The reason (again) why you might get better sound quality on apple products is because that's 1 company. Android has a ton of different people all trying to be better than the last guy. So they change the way streams sent or how hardware renders or they make a cheap product to make a quick buck. That's a free world, where people are allowed to be cheated, but also where they are allowed to go elsewhere.
Remember, if you own apple...
Apple owns YOU!
adrovic.ad said:
Last videogame I played on pc, I couldnt setup the freacking controls for my gamepad right LIKE IF THATS A BIG DEAL ... ****ING MONKEYS
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This is about windows now?
The best thing to do if you're having trouble is ask. No need to rant or attack companies that aren't reading this.
Just say "hey guys, having trouble finding this for my device which is s4 for this provider. Btw I'm in <country name>, thanks"
This'll help you find what you need.
Also, if you're confused about why markets don't seem synced, ask "how come phone play store shows x apps and web store on pc shows y?"
We're glad to help, but you gotta make the problem clear and not sound like we're telemarketers who called you at dinnertime
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Thats exactly right my friend these dudes dont even care to make a unique standard for everyone to follow like if thats a problem they cant handle ... just that we are stupid and buy their crap. I made that mistake the last time I cant believe I got myself convinced that android could be even close to apple even the sound quality is superb on iphone earpieses CAN ANYONE JUST BELIEVE THIS CRAP I CANT FOR SUR... and the thing why I cant believe it is because it is like the easyest thing to do.
Last videogame I played on pc, I couldnt setup the freacking controls for my gamepad right LIKE IF THATS A BIG DEAL ... ****ING MONKEYS
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It's not that they don't it's that they can't. They released Android as an open source project for anyone to use as they see fit. Besides if they attempted to dictate to companies how they had to build their phones and that they all had to be clones of all the others then no one would make them. It is because they're allowed to make their phones they way they want that Android based phones hold more market share than the iPhone.
Murasaki no Kaze said:
well yeah, if you knew which were misspelled you probably would've fixed 'em when initially typing.
Here's some help though:
should be "Hi" with an I.
Technically that's spelled correctly, but the word you want is "which" not witch.
Again... which.
Again, correct, yet wrong. "whole" not "hole".
Embedded.
WHOLE.
itself. With an F.
REGRET
This is the reason I think he's mad. Like only having repos to discover there are other things out there. Wonder how he'd flip on windows lol
Android is about Open Source. Unlike macs proprietary world, android wants you to have the freedom of choice. Unfortunately this means everyone wants to be a choice. There's no reason to try out a million markets. You can usually find what you need in 1. If not, use a search engine, not other markets. Just easier that way.
like spell "sure" and "easiest"?
Lol, sorry, couldn't help myself.
The reason (again) why you might get better sound quality on apple products is because that's 1 company. Android has a ton of different people all trying to be better than the last guy. So they change the way streams sent or how hardware renders or they make a cheap product to make a quick buck. That's a free world, where people are allowed to be cheated, but also where they are allowed to go elsewhere.
Remember, if you own apple...
Apple owns YOU!
This is about windows now?
The best thing to do if you're having trouble is ask. No need to rant or attack companies that aren't reading this.
Just say "hey guys, having trouble finding this for my device which is s4 for this provider. Btw I'm in <country name>, thanks"
This'll help you find what you need.
Also, if you're confused about why markets don't seem synced, ask "how come phone play store shows x apps and web store on pc shows y?"
We're glad to help, but you gotta make the problem clear and not sound like we're telemarketers who called you at dinnertime
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youve got to be a WIERDO noticeing all this small errors wich noone even cares.
the next time i draw pictures for you so everything is clear for you, youve got to read between the lines my friend to get to the real problem.
i believe thats why you bought an android in the first please because youre so surfacing all the time and dont get to the point.
what is that fraze supposed to mean i really wounder APPLE OWNS YOU, maybe they restrict me somehow? i dont know but i know that google restricts me with their crap inconsistent system and if they cant even make their own software nice than its not a problem with cross platforming.
if they compete with each other then they should make thinks better not worse I MEAN WHERE DID YOU PEOPLE LIVE... ON THE MOON?
AGAIN THE ONLY COMPANY OUT THERE THAT IS COMMERCIAL ... AVAILABLE TO ANYONE IS APPLE
if you think youre free because you can edit the system files on your phone then are you blind as a rat .. thats exactly why you are more constrained.
you have the choice to design stuff for example the UI. like anyone is capable to design thinks as they like, at the end they design crap for sure.
look on the other hand at ios 7 BEAUTIFUL i dont want to change a thing on that one ITS SECURE ITS BEAUTIFUL ITS MOST IMPORTANT ITS COHERENT.
APPLE RULES.
THEY PUT A QUALLCOM PROCESSOR IN THE S4 BUT AS THE DID WITH THE OTHER SOFTWARE THEY HAVE I BET THE CORE SOFTWARE ON THE ANDROID IS JUST AS FULL OF UNBELIEVABLE BULL**** MISTAKES AS EVERYWHERE ELSE AND I BET THESE EAT BATTERY LIFE AS WELL.
for example i wouldn't be surprised with this idiots considering their WORK so far, that android does not communicate with all wifi routes the same way it maybe BRAND DEPENDENT PFFFF.
unbelievable idiots but again what a contrast to apple like apple is the only serious company out there
adrovic.ad said:
youve got to be a WIERDO noticeing all this small errors wich noone even cares.
the next time i draw pictures for you so everything is clear for you, youve got to read between the lines my friend to get to the real problem.
i believe thats why you bought an android in the first please because youre so surfacing all the time and dont get to the point.
what is that fraze supposed to mean i really wounder APPLE OWNS YOU, maybe they restrict me somehow? i dont know but i know that google restricts me with their crap inconsistent system and if they cant even make their own software nice than its not a problem with cross platforming.
if they compete with each other then they should make thinks better not worse I MEAN WHERE DID YOU PEOPLE LIVE... ON THE MOON?
AGAIN THE ONLY COMPANY OUT THERE THAT IS COMMERCIAL ... AVAILABLE TO ANYONE IS APPLE
if you think youre free because you can edit the system files on your phone then are you blind as a rat .. thats exactly why you are more constrained.
you have the choice to design stuff for example the UI. like anyone is capable to design thinks as they like, at the end they design crap for sure.
look on the other hand at ios 7 BEAUTIFUL i dont want to change a thing on that one ITS SECURE ITS BEAUTIFUL ITS MOST IMPORTANT ITS COHERENT.
APPLE RULES.
THEY PUT A QUALLCOM PROCESSOR IN THE S4 BUT AS THE DID WITH THE OTHER SOFTWARE THEY HAVE I BET THE CORE SOFTWARE ON THE ANDROID IS JUST AS FULL OF UNBELIEVABLE BULL**** MISTAKES AS EVERYWHERE ELSE AND I BET THESE EAT BATTERY LIFE AS WELL.
for example i wouldn't be surprised with this idiots considering their WORK so far, that android does not communicate with all wifi routes the same way it maybe BRAND DEPENDENT PFFFF.
unbelievable idiots but again what a contrast to apple like apple is the only serious company out there
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So you don't want help? Just to complain and promote apple?
Few things:
1. Yes, I am weird, I am OCD, I see things that as you said "no one cares about". I understand how little things can be important. Like how people will value your opinion based on the coherency of your delivery. If me no comprende, then me no nintendo.
2. My understanding of how important the little things are is what prompted me to purchase an android. You think you can't edit system files in apple products? Of course you can. It's not about being able to change the look of my phone. It's about being able to choose to do as I see fit, whether that's change the look, functionality or whatever else occurs to me.
3. By the phrase "apple owns you" what I mean to say is that in purchasing an apple product, you must purchase other apple products which will only be compatible with other apple products. In purchasing their equipment you've lost the freedom of choice. It's all apple. Headphones? Apple. Laptop? Apple. Mp3 player? Apple. Repair shop? Apple. Music player? Apple. Software? Apple.
Android can be used with whatever you prefer. Samsung, sony, htc, etc. The list goes on. This is why I prefer open source. It's about not being stuck in a loop and not being a walking advertisement for products that have been pushed on me rather then those I've selected because I like.
4. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That means that different people find different things beautiful. Look at some of the theme forums. Some are incredible, others are meh. To me. Not to the people that are downloading them and loving it.
This is why you think android is worse? Because it doesn't force itself on you? Have you tried windows? They're also commercial and available to everyone. You want something better, check out aosp. That's Android Open Source Project. There you will find much innovation and improvement. It's not android fighting against itself. It's companies trying to make android their own thing for their own reasons. Customer loyalty to what's familiar, a similar experience with their own brand name products.
You ask if we live on the moon for not getting away from that...
Have you even looked at this forum?
Most of what you will find here is about getting away from what all these companies are pushing on their customers. Why do you think people root? Replace roms? Kernels? All these things so we can get the experience that WE want from our devices. Not what the companies have deemed we should have.
You praise apple as the only serious company out there? Either you are gravely misinformed, blissfully ignorant or you're simply trolling.
Have you seen some of the battery performances on this forum? They're ridiculously awesome!
It's not android adding the bloatware, it's the devices manufacturers. Samsung adds Its app and launcher and whatever it wants to its devices, as does every other company out there. They made it, they can sell it how they want.
Apple's done an incredible job, it's come a long way, but it monopolizes itself. That is the only thing I don't like about apple, and is reason enough for me to never purchase their products.
I wouldn't allow such ideology in any other aspect of my life, why would I in this?
If apple makes you happy, great, grab yourself a variant of iphone and live the happy comfortable life of the conformist. Like a consumer slave, nothing to worry about when the masters choose for you
Murasaki no Kaze said:
So you don't want help? Just to complain and promote apple?
Few things:
1. Yes, I am weird, I am OCD, I see things that as you said "no one cares about". I understand how little things can be important. Like how people will value your opinion based on the coherency of your delivery. If me no comprende, then me no nintendo.
2. My understanding of how important the little things are is what prompted me to purchase an android. You think you can't edit system files in apple products? Of course you can. It's not about being able to change the look of my phone. It's about being able to choose to do as I see fit, whether that's change the look, functionality or whatever else occurs to me.
3. By the phrase "apple owns you" what I mean to say is that in purchasing an apple product, you must purchase other apple products which will only be compatible with other apple products. In purchasing their equipment you've lost the freedom of choice. It's all apple. Headphones? Apple. Laptop? Apple. Mp3 player? Apple. Repair shop? Apple. Music player? Apple. Software? Apple.
Android can be used with whatever you prefer. Samsung, sony, htc, etc. The list goes on. This is why I prefer open source. It's about not being stuck in a loop and not being a walking advertisement for products that have been pushed on me rather then those I've selected because I like.
4. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That means that different people find different things beautiful. Look at some of the theme forums. Some are incredible, others are meh. To me. Not to the people that are downloading them and loving it.
This is why you think android is worse? Because it doesn't force itself on you? Have you tried windows? They're also commercial and available to everyone. You want something better, check out aosp. That's Android Open Source Project. There you will find much innovation and improvement. It's not android fighting against itself. It's companies trying to make android their own thing for their own reasons. Customer loyalty to what's familiar, a similar experience with their own brand name products.
You ask if we live on the moon for not getting away from that...
Have you even looked at this forum?
Most of what you will find here is about getting away from what all these companies are pushing on their customers. Why do you think people root? Replace roms? Kernels? All these things so we can get the experience that WE want from our devices. Not what the companies have deemed we should have.
You praise apple as the only serious company out there? Either you are gravely misinformed, blissfully ignorant or you're simply trolling.
Have you seen some of the battery performances on this forum? They're ridiculously awesome!
It's not android adding the bloatware, it's the devices manufacturers. Samsung adds Its app and launcher and whatever it wants to its devices, as does every other company out there. They made it, they can sell it how they want.
Apple's done an incredible job, it's come a long way, but it monopolizes itself. That is the only thing I don't like about apple, and is reason enough for me to never purchase their products.
I wouldn't allow such ideology in any other aspect of my life, why would I in this?
If apple makes you happy, great, grab yourself a variant of iphone and live the happy comfortable life of the conformist. Like a consumer slave, nothing to worry about when the masters choose for you
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you got some good points there but.. apple ipad i the best apple earpods are the best apple laptops are the best so why would i want to choose something else.
i gurantee you that aple knows that the policy about their products is takeing them a bit portion of the market BUT they dont see any other way to guarantee you quality.
and the reason people change so much firmware is .. bad android on ios i wouldnt even want to change anything nor do i care to do things other than intended.
best way to save yourself from bad products is not to even get them and not buy them and then try to change them...
adrovic.ad said:
apple ipad i the best
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I disagree.
adrovic.ad said:
apple earpods are the best
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I disagree.
adrovic.ad said:
apple laptops are the best
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adrovic.ad said:
so why would i want to choose something else.
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That's really the question here, I feel; why did you get something besides an apple product in the first place if you are so sold on the apple systems? Clearly there was something about apple you didn't like enough that you ended up getting an android phone instead. You can't argue that apple is the only good choice since after all - you yourself admitted it wasn't by choosing something else in this instance.
adrovic.ad said:
best way to save yourself from bad products is not to even get them
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That's absolute correct. Feel free to only buy great products in the future, even though you for some strange reason decided to buy something you considered "not great" in this case, and then came to a forum dedicated to changing it to complain about your mistake.
We're very sorry you don't appreciate the phone you bought. The simple solution is to sell it to someone who does and get an iphone instead. iPhones are great products, no doubt, and apparently they are perfect for what you need!
Good luck!
adrovic.ad said:
youve got to be a WIERDO noticeing all this small errors wich noone even cares.
unbelievable idiots but again what a contrast to apple like apple is the only serious company out there
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first u challenged people to find yr spelling mistakes...then u called people a weirdo when corrected. guess I am a weirdo too.
then u called people idiots...wonder who is the idiot here...sigh
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i gurantee you that aple knows...
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now u even stand guarantee for aple
This guy's either a complete moron or a troll and this thread should be locked either way. He obviously isn't here looking for help but to just bash on Android with an "I'm holier then thou" kind of attitude. If you love Apple so much how bout you just stfu and go find someone with an iPhone 5 that wants a S4 and trade with them if you can't exchange it where you bought it for one.
Posted on the GS4 forum too...and got flamed. Just a troll, IMHO!!
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I like how the name ends in ".ad" almost as if he's flaunting his sheephood
DoctorProctor said:
Posted on the GS4 forum too...and got flamed. Just a troll, IMHO!!
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Actually, I don't think the OP is a troll - he is a frustrated user venting in the wrong place to the wrong people. The OP is mad because he is used to the "it just works" feeling that Apple provides. I can relate to his feelings.
I carried an iPhone for awhile. A 4S. And although I prefer my Android by far, there are a few things that Apple simply does better than anyone. One of them is quality control. As an example, "drive mode" on my current i537. On my S2 I used this all the time. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. No rhyme or reason except buggy Samsung software. When I got my i537, I figured they *must* have fixed drive mode by now... I was wrong. Two years and two versions later it *still* only works only when it feels like it. Apple *usually* would never ship such shoddy software (yes, I know about the maps fiasco, but that is an exception, not the rule with them). There are many other stupid little Samsung bugs on our phone. It is frustrating to have a device that would be just about perfect if they spent a little more time on quality control. I mean, I found some of these bugs less than an hour after booting up my phone for the first time. Makes me wonder how much testing Samsung actually did with this phone before they started shipping...
That's what I thought at first, but instead of explaining his situation clearly (what he's looking for, what he's seeing) and actually asking for help he increases the animosity in his posts and adopts an "apple rulez you droolz!!!" attitude. That's when I decided he was a troll.
If he'd be clearer than "this sucks! Me no understand! I hate you bye!" Maybe he'd get a little more help. He's obviously never seen beyond what's in front of his nose and instead of trying to understand, he becomes angry. I can understand frustration, but there's no need to attack members, companies or anyone for that matter. If you don't understand something, you research, analyze, try a different angle and see what you learn. Not cry about it to whoever happens to stroll by.
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Actually, I don't think the OP is a troll - he is a frustrated user venting in the wrong place to the wrong people. The OP is mad because he is used to the "it just works" feeling that Apple provides. I can relate to his feelings.
I carried an iPhone for awhile. A 4S. And although I prefer my Android by far, there are a few things that Apple simply does better than anyone. One of them is quality control. As an example, "drive mode" on my current i537. On my S2 I used this all the time. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. No rhyme or reason except buggy Samsung software. When I got my i537, I figured they *must* have fixed drive mode by now... I was wrong. Two years and two versions later it *still* only works only when it feels like it. Apple *usually* would never ship such shoddy software (yes, I know about the maps fiasco, but that is an exception, not the rule with them). There are many other stupid little Samsung bugs on our phone. It is frustrating to have a device that would be just about perfect if they spent a little more time on quality control. I mean, I found some of these bugs less than an hour after booting up my phone for the first time. Makes me wonder how much testing Samsung actually did with this phone before they started shipping...
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exactly right friend but just think that if you can see already so many flaws on the surface just by booting up just think how many flaws there must be on the core programs, making youre device maybe vulnerable for attacks most of them noone probably notices because all google cares about is making things stable not necessarily right.
i just cant believe that even today only one company can be taken for serious and thats apple, i dont think that there has ever been a situation on any market in the world ever in history of mankind ... in economy that nobody cares to deliver a quality product besides one company but that everybody makes profit.
android is just a big prank that keeps itself on the surface by making false promises talking about functionality where there is basicly not so much functionality as they promise.
but what goes completely out of bounds and i cant understand at all is that this is absolutely no problem to fix.
software economy has obviously taken its own dynamic, going on a thin rope of false statements and cheap production i guess.
i have been in egypt this year for holiday and i would never go there again, but still i meet there people that came there for the 5th time i just couldn't believe my mind anymore ... unbelievable.
same counts for android some people just see the obvious and some just like crappy stuff maybe they like to suffer.. makes them feel better.
Like I said, I know how you feel. I'm a perfectionist myself and don't understand either why Samsung doesn't go just a bit further with their testing to work out some of the obvious bugs and flaws in their software. But what you or I might want is unfortunately irrelevant. Samsung hasn't asked for my opinion thus far, and I'd doubt they will anytime soon. So... We get to chose between Apple's relentless pursuit of perfection inside their strictly controlled "walled garden", or the "Wild West" of the Samsung/Android world. I'll take the later, bugs and all. If you chose to do the same, there are people here who will go far out of their way to help you with any issues that come up and only ask for coherency and politeness in return. Give it a try...
For those that are not yet informed, this is an important article as to how Google will proceed with the Android One program.
Android One 2nd Gen may be the last of it's kind in terms of a unified, inexpensive Android platform with top to bottom hardware and software standards.
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Cyntil8ing said:
For those that are not yet informed, this is an important article as to how Google will proceed with the Android One program.
Android One 2nd Gen may be the last of it's kind in terms of a unified, inexpensive Android platform with top to bottom hardware and software standards.
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the original and very essence of the android one program will be marginalized and eventually die a natural death. long live the android one. apple has the last laugh. lol...
WSJ article, which is the source of the arstechnica oped, is paywalled. So I don't know for sure whether this is just a special exception made by Google for one particular market.
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WSJ article, which is the source of the arstechnica oped, is paywalled. So I don't know for sure whether this is just a special exception made by Google for one particular market.
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Yeah, I sure hope that's true but, ARS Technica is usually dependable on their reporting and the chances of them omitting that detail's unlikely. Emerging and small economy OEMs are notorious for for pushing crap stock firmware and even worse security/update policies if any.
I hope google keeps pushing all OEMs to comply to a standard when it comes to security and updating instead of opting in. They've started implementing stricter policies regarding MM in that regard and I hope they keep following through in that direction. It's not like OEMs really have a choice if Google decided to implement higher standards.