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I read the wiki but it only tells you "Why you should" root your phone. Obviously Google removed root from the latest firmware for a reason. If its for security reasons, how can you be "safe" with a rooted phone? Can you still download paid apps from the App store with a rooted phone? How well does the Apps on the SD card work? The main reason I would want to root my phone is for the SD card app feature. The G1 space sucks ass and its constantly telling me I am low on space.
When you root your phone, it automatically installs an app called "SuperUser" (assuming you're using one of JesusFreke's builds). SuperUser allows you to control which applications have root privileges.
Also, Google probably removed root because of stuff like the fact that it enables you to copy protected apps and the like... and even if they didn't know at the time, they probably knew that it would happen
Superuser protects your phone by allowing programs you give permission to that use root. I can still see paid apps in the Market (I haven't bought any yet, but I will). I didn't move my apps onto my SD card because Paragon Partition Manager froze during the partitioning and I had to reinstall Vista .
The only con is that you have to wait for JF's updates
I believe I also read here that rooting your phone voids your warrenty, so if you have a problem with it make sure you switch back to the official firmware before sending it in
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I read the wiki but it only tells you "Why you should" root your phone. Obviously Google removed root from the latest firmware for a reason. If its for security reasons, how can you be "safe" with a rooted phone? Can you still download paid apps from the App store with a rooted phone? How well does the Apps on the SD card work? The main reason I would want to root my phone is for the SD card app feature. The G1 space sucks ass and its constantly telling me I am low on space.
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I'll try to answer your questions the best I can:
-I don't work for Google so be advised this IS pure speculation on my part. With that said, I think they removed root access for the masses to avoid the possibility of folks having their Android handsets compromised by malicious apps.
Though, having root doesn't necessarily mean this WILL happen to you.
So long as you have common sense, and know better to install apps from questionable sources, you'll be fine. Additionally, the JesusFreke firmwares have a "SuperUser Whitelist" app that will ask for escalated privileges whenever a process requires root.
This is provided as another layer of security.
So to say it again, do not allow apps/processes to run unless you KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO. Follow that and you won't have any problems.
-Market apps can be installed and used without issue. I have dozens apps installed (and yes, a few paid apps as well) and have had ZERO issues with them. Matter of fact, if you look through the market, you'll see several cool apps that require root (Task Manager, WiFi Tether, etc).
-Far as installing and running apps from the sdcard, I'll defer to someone else because I haven't done it myself. I prefer to wait until an easier, or official method becomes available. Though, I have moved the various caches (Web, Maps, Market, etc) to the sdcard without issue.
That helps to conserve space with the internal memory.
Hopefully that helps you.
Thanks for all the replies. So is it safe to say that if I only install apps from the Android Market I should be safe? Can programs on the Android Market be malicious? Hopefully Google is monitoring the applications for malicious code.
So, what is the "best" guide to use for rooting a RC33 phone?
programs on the market could possibly be malicious, read reviews, i found a game that said it needed the internet, gps, and some other stuff in order to work, but yet the app never used any of those features in the actual gameplay, thus i removed it and reported it as malicious because i frankly don't feel that it should need access to things it isn't gonna use. a general rule is that if a single person said it was malicious then don't install it, and never be the first to install an app. let someone else break their phone first
The only con for rooting your phone is that people who don't know any better usually end up bricking it. "oooh root yay! i don't know what it duz bat it sounds cool! oh no! i brcked it halp plz"
And you can still unbrick your phone pretty easily.
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The only con for rooting your phone is that people who don't know any better usually end up bricking it. "oooh root yay! i don't know what it duz bat it sounds cool! oh no! i brcked it halp plz"
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lol, your quote can be used on a LOL Cat.
i wouldnt say that waiting for the updates is technically waiting, when you have a rooted phone...
at least for me, i must have been on the bottom of t-mobile's randomized IMEI list when it came to updates.. I used to see people all around me have updates for weeks before me. Coincidentally i was the first to have mine... but the updates are released right from the google site, plus the wait time for JF and others to work their magic.
cant complain with a rooted phone, if anyone is skeptical about it... you CAN reverse the process
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-Far as installing and running apps from the sdcard, I'll defer to someone else because I haven't done it myself. I prefer to wait until an easier, or official method becomes available. Though, I have moved the various caches (Web, Maps, Market, etc) to the sdcard without issue.
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I've moved my apps and caches to the sdcard and now I never have to worry about running low on space.
I followed one of the tutorials about moving the apps, but when paid apps came out, I had some problems. The solution was to move not only the "app" directory but also the "app-private" directory to the sdcard. Once I did that, everything was fine. I am able to install both free and paid apps with no problems. I'm very glad I did it -- no regrets.
I have an 8gb sdcard and I partitioned 1gb to apps and caches (ext2 format) and 7gb to data (fat32 format).
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Superuser protects your phone by allowing programs you give permission to that use root. I can still see paid apps in the Market (I haven't bought any yet, but I will). I didn't move my apps onto my SD card because Paragon Partition Manager froze during the partitioning and I had to reinstall Vista .
The only con is that you have to wait for JF's updates
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Rooting may be safe to people like you all, but rooting is definitely the downside of android. Sd card blank and file recognition errors are the opposition to what android has made. I will not root my phone again because of the unexpected long term damage this has caused to my phone. I will tell my friends not to root their phone unless they want to turn their android to ruins. These kind of problems happen for absolutely no reason at all.
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Rooting may be safe to people like you all, but rooting is definitely the downside of android. Sd card blank and file recognition errors are the opposition to what android has made. I will not root my phone again because of the unexpected long term damage this has caused to my phone. I will tell my friends not to root their phone unless they want to turn their android to ruins. These kind of problems happen for absolutely no reason at all.
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I disagree with the statement "downside". Android is about open source and customization. The downside to root is that you need to spend a bit of extra time playing with your phone when it doesn't end up going the way you planned or there are bugs in a new Rom. Other than the extra time on the phone, I have not run into a downside. I have not looked back since I rooted.
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Rooting may be safe to people like you all, but rooting is definitely the downside of android. Sd card blank and file recognition errors are the opposition to what android has made. I will not root my phone again because of the unexpected long term damage this has caused to my phone. I will tell my friends not to root their phone unless they want to turn their android to ruins. These kind of problems happen for absolutely no reason at all.
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I 100% disagree with this statment. having a rooted phone in itself will not cause any errors. even the process of rooting won't brick a phone or cause problems (so long as you understand what you are doing). although there is the way out in right field chance of something going even if everything is done right (very hard to brick a phone if you truley know what you are doing and are sober at the time)
android has always been and (hopefully) always will be open source. the android code it self in pure aosp is in fact rooted. it is the carriers and cell phone makers and such that lock the bootloader and deny privalage. as any linux user knows it is easily possible to damage you phone/pc/etc if you don't know what you are doing, but having root privalage in itself causes no harm - only to the novice.
this stament of unexpected long term damaged caused by root is false, it was caused by someone not knowing what they were doing and shouldn't have root privalages in the first place.
*excuse my spelling errors as rooting a phone doesn't improve my gramar/spelling*
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I 100% disagree with this statment. having a rooted phone in itself will not cause any errors. even the process of rooting won't brick a phone or cause problems (so long as you understand what you are doing). although there is the way out in right field chance of something going even if everything is done right (very hard to brick a phone if you truley know what you are doing and are sober at the time)
android has always been and (hopefully) always will be open source. the android code it self in pure aosp is in fact rooted. it is the carriers and cell phone makers and such that lock the bootloader and deny privalage. as any linux user knows it is easily possible to damage you phone/pc/etc if you don't know what you are doing, but having root privalage in itself causes no harm - only to the novice.
this stament of unexpected long term damaged caused by root is false, it was caused by someone not knowing what they were doing and shouldn't have root privalages in the first place.
*excuse my spelling errors as rooting a phone doesn't improve my gramar/spelling*
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To prevent factory reset bricking I had to move to a different Rom. I knew what I was doing. I returned to stock Rom and factory reset, and every zip I downloaded from my computer could not be recognised properly by my phone.
I know that android is based on pure root, but who should I blame if something goes wrong with my phone? Every rooted phone becomes faulty, why should I pay extra just because I can't download anymore roms?
Think about the random percentage of people that have had their phones bricked just because of rooting problems. I am one of them.
Your statement "only to the novice" is something I disagree with.
I remember when I read a thread about someone's Samsung Vibrant getting hard bricked all of a sudden! Or when I read a Sony Ericsson touchscreen refusing to work after light debugging. These people will most likely be paying for their android phones.
In a way, I do not completely disagree with you. In a way I believe that Android should start believing in its roots.
For the moment, I do not know who to blame for the mess my phone is in. I didn't do things wrong on purpose. So maybe it is better not to root. Maybe it is more advisable to complain to the creator of your phone if there is not "enough", or if there is too much bloatware. Maybe Android should be fixing my HTC! I need to stop all this unnecessary refusal from happening on my android. This is why I find the essence of rooting initially bad. When there is no limits, something can go wrong.
Please may I let you know that my touchscreen is mostly unresponsive. I will be surprised if I have got all of my spelling correct! If I still had the advantage of the warranty, I would be sending my phone straight to HTC to get repaired.
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ri123 said:
To prevent factory reset bricking I had to move to a different Rom. I knew what I was doing. I returned to stock Rom and factory reset, and every zip I downloaded from my computer could not be recognised properly by my phone.
I know that android is based on pure root, but who should I blame if something goes wrong with my phone? Every rooted phone becomes faulty, why should I pay extra just because I can't download anymore roms?
Think about the random percentage of people that have had their phones bricked just because of rooting problems. I am one of them.
I remember when I read a thread about someone's Samsung Vibrant getting hard bricked all of a sudden! Or when I read a Sony Ericsson touchscreen refusing to work after light debugging.
In a way, I do not completely disagree with you. In a way I believe that Android should start believing in its roots.
For the moment, I do not know who to blame for the mess my phone is in. I didn't do things wrong on purpose. So maybe it is better not to root. Maybe it is more advisable to complain to the creator of your phone if there is not "enough", or if there is too much bloatware. Maybe Android should be fixing my HTC! I need to stop all this unnecessary refusal from happening on my android. This is why I find the essence of rooting initially bad. When there is no limits, something can go wrong.
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I'm not trying to sound rude here but the only blame is to ones self if YOU screw up your phone.
yes you can blame a phone company when the hardware fails from normal use, or your cell phone carrier for adding useless apps. or well blame android for creating an operating system that at its heart allows one to have full access to every part of it.
android doesn't write the radio, android doesn't write the bootloader, they are not firmware or hardware only os. they also are not responsible for a bad rom.
I will say again the act of rooting your phone in itself causes no damage, only when you do something wrong during this process is it possible to brick your phone, and as for the percentage of people who did brick there phone 99.99% of them messed up, that means their own fault.
.01% had a major power surge while phone was updating via fastboot and their computer only coppied a portion of the firmware to the phone and then the dog kicked over the phone knooking the battery out leaving no bootoader... or whatever, it is hard to do this wrong
and again having a rooted phone will intself not brake hardware, not damage firmware, will not cause a single issue
the missue of having root, or the improper method of obtaining root is the only problem, and people who don't know what they are doing (fully understand) well just shouldn't root, or should learn to except blame at the very least...
done with my ranting, good day...
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I'm not trying to sound rude here but the only blame is to ones self if YOU screw up your phone.
yes you can blame a phone company when the hardware fails from normal use, or your cell phone carrier for adding useless apps. or well blame android for creating an operating system that at its heart allows one to have full access to every part of it.
android doesn't write the radio, android doesn't write the bootloader, they are not firmware or hardware only os. they also are not responsible for a bad rom.
I will say again the act of rooting your phone in itself causes no damage, only when you do something wrong during this process is it possible to brick your phone, and as for the percentage of people who did brick there phone 99.99% of them messed up, that means their own fault.
.01% had a major power surge while phone was updating via fastboot and their computer only coppied a portion of the firmware to the phone and then the dog kicked over the phone knooking the battery out leaving no bootoader... or whatever, it is hard to do this wrong
and again having a rooted phone will intself not brake hardware, not damage firmware, will not cause a single issue
the missue of having root, or the improper method of obtaining root is the only problem, and people who don't know what they are doing (fully understand) well just shouldn't root, or should learn to except blame at the very least...
done with my ranting, good day...
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As I have said,one of the problems with rooting is that people have to move off their Rom in case of factory reset bricking.
0.1% have got the limited service error or the bad zip file error with their phone practically in a trap.
Much more than 0.1% have the sdcard blank error
I understand root enough to install roms and unroot my phone.
I did not do this on purpose, I just installed stock Rom and factory reset and my phone did not work as it intended to.
This is why I shall, in the future, ACCEPT things and rant about my rooting experience to those people who would unconsciously root. More ranting is needed.
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ri123 said:
As I have said,one of the problems with rooting is that people have to move off their Rom in case of factory reset bricking.
0.1% have got the limited service error or the bad zip file error with their phone practically in a trap.
Much more than 0.1% have the sdcard blank error
I understand root enough to install roms and unroot my phone.
I did not do this on purpose, I just installed stock Rom and factory reset and my phone did not work as it intended to.
This is why I shall, in the future, ACCEPT things and rant about my rooting experience to those people who would unconsciously root. More ranting is needed.
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whenever you flash something to your phone expecially firmware you should check the md5sum, its a given and those 0.1% would not have a brick due to a curropt download if they did this so again not the fault of root
having root access WILL NOT cause your sd card slot to quit working, this just has no merrit, having root has just doesn't break hardware in itself, it just doesn't
depending on the phone and how you rooted and if you have an unlocked boot loader and loads of other question need to be figured out before you flash a stock rom, especially from bootloader (if the rom is packaged with a radio, hboot, recovery etc)
once you have true soff you can flash almost anything, including things that shouldn't be flashed. have a security flag is good for this exact purpose, to keep people from flashing what they shouldn't - yes this is how most people brick their phone, they don't fully understand.
and I'm not saying you stupid by I do agree it doesn't take a genius to flash a rom, but knowing the steps that someone has written down is diffrent then undertanding why it works
listen I know you said more ranting is neccessary, but it isn't, the fact is you figured out how to have fun with your phone by following some steps you read in a forum somewhere or watched a youtube video, that's great fun, I know I love it to.
but you didn't bother to figure out why it works or what to do/not to do, because you didn't you made a mistake, it happens, no one thinks less of you.
now you should learn from your mistake and learn to accept blame for making this make, no one told you to do what you did, and you didn't take the time to find out the repercutions of what you were about to do before you damaged your phone.
again root privalages in itself CAN'T harm your phone it just enables you to make a mistake as you have lost some security against it, just as owning a gun won't make you shoot someone but gives you the ability to do so (exuse my analogy as I know it is not apples to apples)
**** happens, get on with your life, no need to rant, no one thinks less of you, learn from mistakes, accept blame when you should... and as always exuse my speeling/grammar errors as root in it self won't make me smarter either
good night
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whenever you flash something to your phone expecially firmware you should check the md5sum, its a given and those 0.1% would not have a brick due to a curropt download if they did this so again not the fault of root
having root access WILL NOT cause your sd card slot to quit working, this just has no merrit, having root has just doesn't break hardware in itself, it just doesn't
depending on the phone and how you rooted and if you have an unlocked boot loader and loads of other question need to be figured out before you flash a stock rom, especially from bootloader (if the rom is packaged with a radio, hboot, recovery etc)
once you have true soff you can flash almost anything, including things that shouldn't be flashed. have a security flag is good for this exact purpose, to keep people from flashing what they shouldn't - yes this is how most people brick their phone, they don't fully understand.
and I'm not saying you stupid by I do agree it doesn't take a genius to flash a rom, but knowing the steps that someone has written down is diffrent then undertanding why it works
listen I know you said more ranting is neccessary, but it isn't, the fact is you figured out how to have fun with your phone by following some steps you read in a forum somewhere or watched a youtube video, that's great fun, I know I love it to.
but you didn't bother to figure out why it works or what to do/not to do, because you didn't you made a mistake, it happens, no one thinks less of you.
now you should learn from your mistake and learn to accept blame for making this make, no one told you to do what you did, and you didn't take the time to find out the repercutions of what you were about to do before you damaged your phone.
again root privalages in itself CAN'T harm your phone it just enables you to make a mistake as you have lost some security against it, just as owning a gun won't make you shoot someone but gives you the ability to do so (exuse my analogy as I know it is not apples to apples)
**** happens, get on with your life, no need to rant, no one thinks less of you, learn from mistakes, accept blame when you should... and as always exuse my speeling/grammar errors as root in it self won't make me smarter either
good night
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Thanks for the reply.
I feel more people should know the repercussions and 'cons' of rooting so I thought of involving my situation as it could affect someone's choice of rooting.
What is a security flag? My phone is s on and yet it does not work.
Also, what is 'true soff'?
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I'm getting a used nook color tomorrow. What sort of things should I test/play with and look out for?
The seller had 1.1 on it with 0.6.8 nookie froyo on the emmc and will flash it to stock b&n when he sells it to me. it also comes with 2 matte screen protectors (one on it) and a case.
TIA
Scratches on the screen and physical damage to the unit are the only things I would be concerned about.
I would have it running a full ROM from the internal memory so it really doesn't matter what was flashed on it before. It sounds like the owner will be giving it back to you flashed stock so you won't have any issues even if you intend to keep it that way.
thnx for your quick reply
i guess if i want to put froyo on a sd card later on i should ask if he un-rooted it? or what he rooted it with?
he could have left it with 0.6.8 nookie froyo on but i wanted to learn this process by doing it myself. also a big part of why i chose this device anyways.
You won't need anything from him. Every file you need is in the development section here. The nook is incredibly hard to brick (maybe impossible?). I even corrupted the boot doing something stupid with an ext 4 build and was able to use adb to push the original Color Nook files and factory.zip back and it booted right back up like a champ.
I'm using the latest CM7 nightly with Phiremod's customizations, it is pretty stable and I look forward to future builds of HC (HC4 was a little unstable for me to use as a daily).
Turn it on and look to see if you find any dead or hot pixels...those would be a deal breaker for me...
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Scratches on the screen and physical damage to the unit are the only things I would be concerned about.
I would have it running a full ROM from the internal memory so it really doesn't matter what was flashed on it before. It sounds like the owner will be giving it back to you flashed stock so you won't have any issues even if you intend to keep it that way.
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Also check out http://nookdevs.com/Portal:NookColor They have alot of information on the Nook Color and various guides for Rooting, Making a Nookie Froyo SD, ect... You get the idea. They were the ones to hack the Nook Original and are now keeping an updated page for all things Nook Color.
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Bring a Micro-SD card with you to make sure that the slot works. My first Nook wouldn't retail the card. It wouldn't stay "clicked" in the inserted position. The eject springs kept kicking it out.
Might as well check the headphone jack too.
Check rhe screen very carefully, both on dark and light background in order to check whether there are dead piscels.
Also, check hardware buttons, all other things should be perfectly fine since this device can't be older than 4 months...
personally i would check for physical damage(IE drops,scratches,ect), i would check to see if all buttons are working, dead/burnt pixels(unless its like one dead pixel in the very corner and it doesnt bother you) and i would check if head phone jack and sd card slot are working(he had nookie froyo installed on it so i am assuming the sd card slot is working but its always good to double check)
all of the above would be deal breakers for me personally but everyone is different so what bothers me might not bother you
I've been reading some issues with used NC that have been registered. The new owner couldn't register the used NC without the original owner removing the NC out of their BN.com account.
So, be sure you have contact info for the seller. Also look up the device info tabs and verify the seller/owner is who is registered.
Dear members of XDA Forums:
So, a few days ago I decided to purchase an e-reader, because there are a lot of books in their original language that are almost impossible to get here in Argentina in physical format. I looked in a few stores, and the Kindle Fire HD 7 seemed fine. It had android, wifi, and some cool random stuff. Well, I purchased it, and was really glad after realizing that what I had in my hands could be turned into a fully functional (and pretty powerful) tablet, not just a reader. So I rooted it, installed a custom launcher, that kind of stuff, and everything went well.
I've been trying to investigate even further, but there are a few particular points to which I found no answer on the forums:
- Currently I'm using the latest version of the firmware (I think it was 7.4.1), and it seems pretty obvious after a quick look at the forums that no wallpaper can be set in that version because Amazon disabled them with a switch in the framework or something like that, and it can only be accesed by decompiling or using the custom script created by mr. stunts513; both of which seem too dangerous for me at this moment (I have absolutely no way of getting a factory cable if something goes wrong, and this thing was worth 2/5 of my monthly salary...)
Was there any update regarding this, or it remains in the same situation?
- At some point before rooting, I'm sure I updated my Kindle. But I've only had it for a few days, so a data wipe doesn't scare me yet. What will happen if I do a total factory restore? I mean, without using any app, just hitting the button in the settings menu. I guess it will unroot and all my apps and personal stuff will be erased, but what about the firmware? Will it remain in the latest I had before restoring (7.4.1) or will it go back to the one it had when I took it from the box?
- I've read several ways to block OTA updates, but there seem to be mixed sollutions for the K7 and the K8'9 in the same threads. Regarding my 7, I only changed the name of the .zip file that controls it (can't remember it's name now, it was in system/etc/security, I think). Will that be enough for a 7?
Thanks in advance, and best regards!
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Mr. stunts513, please do not take my commentary as a way to despise your work; quite the contrary, I'm grateful and would try it without a doubt if I was sure I could unbrick my Kindle if something goes wrong. But there is no way to be 100% sure, so for now I'd rather wait with a black desktop.
Ah No problem I completely understand, if you feel safe trying to install 2nd boot loader and twrp you won't need a fastboot cable if it bricks, but that has some risks of its own. Factory reset I think pretty much just wipes the data folder, maybe some of the system folder, so it doesn't restore the is to a previous version, least as far as I have ever heard. I can't really speak for everyone but I think renaming the ota certs zip file does the trick but I have heard mixed reviews on whether it does as of late or not, I'd wait for someone else to confirm that.
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Holler y'all, I'm hoping you might be able to lend me a hand with these here droid troubles, you see I was fiddling with my Streak and I seem to have broken something kinda important. My droid now tells me my internal storage has a total space of 0.00B on which 2.15GB of applications are installed, contradiction I know. What's kinda weirdypants is that I seem to be able to install new apps fine, but when I try to use the camera I get the "Please insert an SD card before using the camera" nonsense. I should probably note that I also have an external SD plopped into the slot. So there's actually two SD cards, why the camera doesn't see either I ain't got a scoob.
So how did I get here? Well... I had been using that CM10.1 rom, which was quite shexy and all, but the lack of camera and the constant crashing that required a reset made it too unreliable for my use. I decided to downgrade back to Honeycomb and everything seemed to point towards StreakDroid-HD7-R8, but things went a little sideways and I ended up in a boot loop. Perhaps I shouldn't be fiddling with things when I'm so shleepy. Anyways I got my paws on a stock rom and managed to install it with fastboot and recovery. Everything looked fine and I went ahead with setting it up and installing apps, until I got errors about the SD not having enough space to install some apps when it really should've had plenty. I rooted it, tried clearing caches, formatted it, but there was no change except for me having to install all my apps again. Oh yeah, I couldn't backup in Titanium either. So here I am.
Perhaps the SD is dying, perhaps I corrupted it with my fiddling, maybe it's something to do with the partitioning, maybe it's something else? If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, please share.
Also, if the SD is to be retired, is there anyway of redirecting apps which would normally use the internal SD use the external instead, for example the camera app?
Thanks in advance.
That is becuase CM10.1 changes the partition tables.
Does not anyone read around here? There is like 10 people who have posted the exact same thing.
You need to restore to Android 2.2 and then upgrade from there.
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That is becuase CM10.1 changes the partition tables.
Does not anyone read around here? There is like 10 people who have posted the exact same thing.
You need to restore to Android 2.2 and then upgrade from there.
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Offt, that was a tad fiesty. My apologies hombre, I do read and I've ready plenty on this forum, but I guess I haven't read the right threads, perhaps I didn't know the right combination of words to search for. Slap me with a wet fish and shower me in stale coco pops - I am a daftie! You're a mighty fellow, so I shant be cheeky, you've spent a great deal of time making the streak more awesome for all of us, which I do appreciate greatly. Thank you.
Now when you say restore to Android 2.2, are we talking stock ROM here? And do I have to do anything special beforehand or is it just a case of plopping the ROM on my SD and restoring? Thanks kindly for your help captain.
You need to grab the NVFlash pack to restore to Android 2.2, which will also restore the Dell crappy partition tables.
Look at TheManii's DevHost page, he should have it.
Partition tables had to be changed as Dell did not correctly do Android, resulting in the sdcard daemon being broken, so they created something called like "oem_sdcard". If they had just done it right the first time, we would be in this predicament.
Oh and anytime you need to be slapped by fishes, I'm more than glad to. If you had merely scanned the General section, before you posted, you would have seen at least, three threads, where people were having the same problem, and where each time I already stated the exact same thing that you needed to do.
I'll take the slap. I think I spent most of my time in the Dev section, yet I post here in General, you see, that is why I am daftie! My internal compass is corrupted.
Many thanks for the help and info, perhaps someone should slap Dell with a fish? Anyways I best go correct my wrongs now.
I have read many threads and I have the same problem. However, I already used nvflash to repartition my Dell and revert back to 2.2.2. I then updated back to Honeycomb 3.2 and I still have this issue. I ran it a couple times... repartition and restore back to 2.2.2 but still no luck. Any thoughts? Sorry to respond to such an old thread, just fishing for any ideas.
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xcover2 Same issue
I am facing same issue with my xcover2 , any solutions ?
Hello all, I appreciate any help you could give me.
I just recently bought a Kindle Fire (2015) with the intention of rooting it out, and throwing CyanogenMod on there, but I'm having trouble finding solid, step-by-step instructions. I'm not entirely unfamiliar with the process in general, I currently own a Nook Color that I did the same thing with. Originally my Nook was running off an SD card that had CM on it as part of a bootable SD card, but after a while I had decided to just skip the extra step, free up a little bit of space on the card, and throw it natively onto the Nook.
However, time has not been kind to my poor Color and with the 5th Gen Kindle being almost comically cheap, (I got it during a recent sale for less than 40 bucks after shipping) and way more powerful than my poor Nook it looked like it was time to retire my beloved tablet.
I've got a passing familiarity with how ADB works, and I've used some of the tools for college work. I've rummaged through CM's wiki on the unofficial release for the system, but honestly the thread on here for the process is not very concise. It gives leaps of steps, rather than an Idiot Proof methodology and I'd really rather not brick out the tablet no matter how cheap it cost.
Alternatively! I really only used my Nook for book reading, I just didn't like the limited functionality that it offered originally, is there any suggestions on other possible ROMs that would offer a bit more functionality without the somewhat unnecessary power that CM offers?
I appreciate, greatly, any guidance that you all could offer me. :highfive:
First step, turn off the wifi, then go into settings, Device Options, System Updates and see what Fire OS it says you are running.
If as I suspect it's 5.1.1 then you can't root or install any roms atm.
Pond-life said:
First step, turn off the wifi, then go into settings, Device Options, System Updates and see what Fire OS it says you are running.
If as I suspect it's 5.1.1 then you can't root or install any roms atm.
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Most likely it is, but just out of curiosity, I don't currently have anything on it, so if I were to set it back to factory defaults would it still keep the 5.1.1, or since when I got it it updated (Which is why I think it does have the 5.1.1 as you said) would it bounce back to the previous version?
If it does bounce back, any suggestions on where to go to try and proceed with the rooting?
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so if I were to set it back to factory defaults would it still keep the 5.1.1
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Yep, once the fire updates itself, you're stuck with it. And don't try to manually side load 5.0.1, results in a brick.
No root is available for 5.1.1. No custom ROMs. Only thing you can currently do on 5.1.1 is install google play store.
Vez'Roth said:
Most likely it is, but just out of curiosity, I don't currently have anything on it, so if I were to set it back to factory defaults would it still keep the 5.1.1, or since when I got it it updated (Which is why I think it does have the 5.1.1 as you said) would it bounce back to the previous version?
If it does bounce back, any suggestions on where to go to try and proceed with the rooting?
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Nope factory defaults doesn't affect the system only personal files, it would be on a clean 5.1.1 which it already is.
And trying to revert from 5.1.1 to the old 5.0.1 bricks the tablet.
So if it is on that, your quest to apply a different rom of any kind is thwarted for now.
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Nope factory defaults doesn't affect the system only personal files, it would be on a clean 5.1.1 which it already is.
And trying to revert from 5.1.1 to the old 5.0.1 bricks the tablet.
So if it is on that, your quest to apply a different rom of any kind is thwarted for now.
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Thank you for responding at least. I will remain thwarted, but I am sure that this will not stop you all, or me, for long. It'll be broken open again. I don't know why these companies are so against it.
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Thank you for responding at least. I will remain thwarted, but I am sure that this will not stop you all, or me, for long. It'll be broken open again. I don't know why these companies are so against it.
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Because they're EVILLLLL!
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