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is nook for the moment the best buy?

i live in sweden, so its a problem for me to get this tablet/e-reader. but I have so much positiv about it, that I think I want it. the problem is that i cant buy it in sweden, so hade to buy it throw e-bay, so the totalt cost for me with shupping is around 330-340 dollar. Now i have found one to pay 360 dollar, and I now its working, and already in swden.
Do you rekomend me to buy this? or do you think another tablet can be better for that price?

In my opinion, the Nook Color is the best buy simply because for the price VS. quality point. I have not seen an alternative with as nice of screen and 512 MB ram (along with fairly easy market access). If you are willing to have a lower quality screen and 256 MB ram, and having to sideload apps...Then there are many, many options in this price range. The Cruz tablet @ $149 comes to mind.
On the flip side, if having Bluetooth and a camera are important to you -- you may want to look elsewhere as well.

thanks fot the answer. No, no need of camera, and I read that maybe bluetooth will work soon.
I just want to have my tablet to surf and read, some games, and maybe some movies. But the important is that the surf is good and i think the screen is perfect for it? i just hope that HC och some other rom can fix so no page is lagging on the internet. And excuse me for my language
anyone else?

Great device, easily the best in its price range in the US (~$250), but if you have to spend >$300, it may be worth waiting for a newer device in that price range.

ok thanks. yeah, but I dont think I will wait anymoore, its easy to just wait and wait and wait and never buy

I doubt we will see a device of this quality at this price for awhile. All the new stuff will be up in the $400 + Range. Sure, there will be those KIRF s from China.... but a retail device? NC is the value champ.

Keep in mind we are all a little biased in here
There is a lot of value in this device, as long as you don't require camera/bluetooth/3g. Bluetooth may be coming, but don't buy it based on that as it may or may not happen. You can tether to a rooted smart phone to get a virtual 3g device, but if for some reason you want a 3g tablet without tethering then this is not for you either.
But other that that, this thing rocks!

claytorj said:
Keep in mind we are all a little biased in here
There is a lot of value in this device, as long as you don't require camera/bluetooth/3g. Bluetooth may be coming, but don't buy it based on that as it may or may not happen. You can tether to a rooted smart phone to get a virtual 3g device, but if for some reason you want a 3g tablet without tethering then this is not for you either.
But other that that, this thing rocks!
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The device also lacks a GPS receiver, but the Nook Color is still good value for the money.

Should I get a Nook Color or LG G-Slate?

The biggest push for me to get a tablet is because I use Citrix Reciever at work, and with any android (or ipad for that matter) can access work related things very fluidly, except my phone is abit too small for everything. I also stream internet radio via my cellphone, and have about 50 or so apps... The biggest thing is being able to do work on-the-go through Citrix receiver though.
I'm debating, since TMobile is about to release the G-Slate by LG, on getting a tablet this week. The G-Slate is gonna be ~$530 plus a monthly data subscription of probably $20-$35. It will have the latest tech such as 4G, wifi, gps, 3d cameras, Honeycomb... the works - only I'm not 100% positive on the cost justification, one because it would be a locked device (not rooted) and because Android tablets seem to be going through a phase of flux and change every 3 months.
Also on the table for consideration is rooting a new B&N Color Nook. We just bought my wife her Nook and she loves it - and I like the hardware for the most part. The battery life is good, the screen is nice, and its a decent price for a nice set of hardware. If I buy my own, it would be to root and use it as an Android 2.x / 3.x tablet.
Internet connection wouldnt be such an issue from the nook, as my TMobile HTC HD2 cell phone is 3.5G and gets good data speeds, plus the HD2 is now running Android and the tethering application works great.
So, which would you choose?

Price, screen size, processing power.
It all depends on what you want. I bought a nook color and its a great size for my son. Its not too big for him to hold. It didn't cost $500+ so I'm not as worried about it as I would be if I did.
I like the 7" form factor for what it is. I'd probably like the 9-10" form factor as well, but its a device which you have to hold differently, which is a different experience. I'm looking at the Asus Transformer for myself at some point.

Do you ever wish you had subscription data service on the nook?

I don't because I only use it at home. However, it's intended use is primarily a device for my 6 year old so I have it locked out of internet activities unless they are supervised by me or my wife.
When I find myself playing with it, it's mostly games that are not internet reliant. I occasionally browse the internet with it, because its so convenient and handy and I can use it from the couch, but I usually get frustrated with how inefficient tablets are for internet browsing and grab a laptop or a desktop to get the info I am looking for.

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Do you ever wish you had subscription data service on the nook?
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if i didn't have a phone to tether to, i probably would. But since i ALWAYS have my phone, data on my nook is never a worry. If you have somebody picky like AT&T, it might be a problem, but otherwise...

[Q] Today: Nook Color vs Galaxy Tab HELP!

I've read many many many threads and web articles about this topic but I can't seem to find one that is really close to today's date (September 3, 2011) I'm sure everyone has had enough of these threads already but I really could use the advice and help but I don't have any friends with the knowledge to call on.
Here is my problem... I bought a Nook Color about a week ago without doing nearly as much research as I should have (and normally do). I haven't rooted it yet but I'm still happy with my NC, which I've just been using to read and browse the web now and then. Today as I was looking at best buy's website and I came across the Samsung Galaxy Tab for only $30 more than what I paid for the NC... so that leaves me with the options of keeping my NC and rooting it or returning it and getting the Galaxy Tab.
I've never had a tablet before and this is the first real spend on myself in a really long time, so I want to make sure I make the right decision and don't regret it once it's too late. I'm looking for like an all around good e-reader/tablet but not looking to spend a whole lot of money on it, and at the time the NC looked like I wouldn't even have a doubt in my mind, until today. The cameras and gps and other random things the Galaxy Tab can do aren't really my main concerns but it sure factors into the whole picture. I'm thinking I'm ready to take that step into either starting the rooting today or getting the tab and just start playing around with it.
I guess what I'm looking for in an answer would be should I keep my NC and start going about the rooting process or should I just return it and get the tab and basically be good to go right out of the box?
That being said, I also saw that the next NC could be coming out really soon. But that doesn't really matter too much to me as I'm looking for of a more "right now" than a "near future" haha.
Thanks!!!
Edits - Really, any help/opinions/suggestions are greatly appreciated. And I guess another of my concerns and reasons for making this new thread was to maybe get insight about this topic in the "now" with the recent release of the 1.3 update and next nook color coming out "soon."

It all comes down to what you plan to do with it, knowing that the more you learn about it, and play with it, that could change.
We have 3 Nook Colors and love them. The price, the ease of use, the great screen, are all benefits of the NC. I am not happy with the speaker or the sound from the NC, so headphones are a must. We don't have any Galaxy Tabs so I can't really tell you about them.
We use the NCs primarily as eReaders, with a few apps/games for the kids. They are (or were until BN pushed the 1.3 update) rooted so that takes a little bit of set up and maintenance time. We don't need the the cameras or the gps so we really don't miss that. We love the original NC eReader app (not the market one) so for us, I think that puts the NC over the Galaxy Tab.
I am still in search of a good music/video player, and overall, while the NC does what we need, my wife still has iPad envy so we will probably be getting an iPad 2 in the near future.
Hope this helps.

I agree with madman.
I like my NC (just got it a few days ago) and love it so far.
Somehow, I doubt the Galaxy Tab would measure up now. It seems like it would be a bit bulkier, maybe heavier... and it doesn't seem like it bring much to the party... the hardware may be a little better though (ram/cpu). The NC doesn't have any outputs though to hook up to a TV or anything like that... For some reason I want to say that the Galaxy Tab does have some sort of hdmi out, I could be mistaken though.
But, it's a matter of opinion I guess.
@madman390:
Try MoboPlayer I use it for AVI files that I stream over the network for my daughter. It works great, and has a library poster layout feel to it. Though, it won't load your files unless you enable the "software decoding" for them. You can set it in the options though, to always use it.

Yoinx said:
I agree with madman.
I like my NC (just got it a few days ago) and love it so far.
Somehow, I doubt the Galaxy Tab would measure up now. It seems like it would be a bit bulkier, maybe heavier... and it doesn't seem like it bring much to the party... the hardware may be a little better though (ram/cpu). The NC doesn't have any outputs though to hook up to a TV or anything like that... For some reason I want to say that the Galaxy Tab does have some sort of hdmi out, I could be mistaken though.
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I just have to correct some misstatements here. I have a rooted CM7 Nook color and a stock Galaxy Tab. The NC is great, and very functional as a low cost, no frills, easily customized tablet with a nice screen.But where it lacks the Tab undeniably shines. The Tab is lighter, smaller, and has a wonderful Gorilla glass screen. The cameras and video capabilities are sharp and convenient. And with HDMI output, I'm able to share the contents of my Tab on a larger screen easily. And the speakers are much much so much better than those on the NC it is not even funny.
For only $30 more, the bang-for-the-buck in me outshouts the geek in me and says the Galaxy Tab wins out.

cymoze said:
I just have to correct some misstatements here. I have a rooted CM7 Nook color and a stock Galaxy Tab. The NC is great, and very functional as a low cost, no frills, easily customized tablet with a nice screen.But where it lacks the Tab undeniably shines. The Tab is lighter, smaller, and has a wonderful Gorilla glass screen. The cameras and video capabilities are sharp and convenient. And with HDMI output, I'm able to share the contents of my Tab on a larger screen easily. And the speakers are much much so much better than those on the NC it is not even funny.
For only $30 more, the bang-for-the-buck in me outshouts the geek in me and says the Galaxy Tab wins out.
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Like I said... ionly have the nook color. I wasn't trying to spread misinformation... just giving my speculative opinion. Like I said.. the HDMI would be worth it. And the NC speaker suck without nook tools boosting sac.
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk

Im with Cymoze. I own em both and the Gorilla Glass and the "feel" of the Galaxy Tab make it my go to device. The added hardware and the drop in price make it even more appealing.
I will say this. Flashing the tab with better then stock firmware is a bit more troublesome although not impossible. The Nook Color cant be fubar`d and that appeals to alot of folks.
Not to mention making phonecalls on the tab just friggin ROCKS.
If your able to follow instructions buy the tab.

For those who have used them side-by-side, what do you think about the reading experience on the Samsung? Is it radically different or worse than the NC (I'm just talking screens here, really--I mostly read in Aldiko, sometimes Kindle)? I'm hoping and assuming the Samsung has better audio...am I right?
I have a line on a GSM Galaxy Tab 7" at a decent price, but I couldn't afford to keep both devices. Reading is a high priority, and I'm just a little concerned that if that experience suffers much, the Samsung won't feel like an upgrade.
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And the speakers are much much so much better than those on the NC it is not even funny.
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assuming it also applies to the 3G model.

I dont hqve a problem reading on the tab. But i cant say i do it for extended periods of time.
Id do spend a lot of time on it vs. The nook color. I just dont like the feel of the nook and that bezel drives me crazy.

I don't own a Galaxy Tab (however I do own a Samsung Captivate). Just based on Samsung slowness to put out firmware updates, I think B&N wins in the customer support category. However I do wish the NC had HDMI (or usb) video out. Also the NC struggles with HD video (I'm running CM7 nightly 160 and haven't had luck with any video player with HD...also struggles with youtube HD). I think if you have the patience you can tweak the NC to perform just as fast as the galaxy.
I think for $30 I might go Tab. However, check Ebay or Buy.com....NC refurbs can be had for $160-$169 (I got one I swear it looks brand new...I think B&N is just dumping them to get ready for the NC2).

I bought a NC back in March I believe and I love it. Yes, the speaker sucks, the screen, while works okay, is a little unresponsive, but other than that I prefer it over the tab 7 WIFI! I stress this because I got the Galaxy tab 7 WIFI version for FREE and after using it only twice I got rid of it. If you're going to get the tab, the WiFi version is a NO GO! It lacks in every way compared to it's counterpart. It's slower, less ram, no HDMI out possibilities, bluetooth is locked down, and there is virtually no community support (you cannot use the GSM or cmda roms). Touchwiz SUCKS on any device and even more so on the bigger screen of the Tab.
If you don't care about the GPS, camera, etc. then the NOOK should be your choice. You can do so much more with it and, to me, it feels like a budget tablet should feel. The galaxy tab, to me, just felt like a childs toy.
I read on my nook color ALL the time using Aldiko and I love it. I didn't like the way the Tab 7 felt in my hands, it did feel bigger and more bulky. It was thicker by a lot, although not quite as tall due to the n button area on the nook.
Call it a bad experience, but I'd still rather have a nook than a galaxy tab 7 any day. I love samsung as a brand, but their tablets have not impressed me at all (although I do like my rooted gummycharged Droid Charge).
Another general warning about Samsung android devices....they lock down their bluetooth so that you can't use a lot of the things that you could on other devices like the PS3/wii controller, HID devices, etc. Some say they did it on purpose, others say it is just the way it happened. I hear HID is unlocked with the gsm/cdma galaxy tab 7 but I cannot confirm this.

Galaxy Note vs LG Nitro

Hi all - I've been planning to upgrade from my Infuse 4G to a Note for a while now, primarily because of the extra screen real estate (obviously), though I hear the battery on the Note is killer as well. The thing is though that the Note isn't available in the States, which means I'm looking at $700-$800 at least to get one. Typically I'd be okay with that, but these days more and more phones are actually making it over here, and I know there is a rumor that the Note will follow suit. I'd hate to spend $800 just to see it for $400 in a couple months. I'm thinking I'd rather get something like the LG Nitro for now, which I can get for $250, and then still get the Note when it hits the States for less anyway - and still probably spend less than getting a Note right now.
Anyway, I'm looking for some opinions... The fact that there isn't a thread for the LG Nitro here yet counts for something, but I'm sure there will be one soon enough. It looks like some of the Optimus drivers work for rooting, so I'm okay there. And I don't care about the stylus at all. So it really just comes down to screen - Super AMOLED 5.3", or super high pixel density 4.5"? And is the battery on the Note really that awesome?

If you want a Note, just use your upgrade to get something with high resell value (like an iphone), sell it, then buy the Note. Even if the Note comes to the US next year, you won't be able to get it for $400 if you use your upgrade now to get a Nitro for $250.

dscline said:
If you want a Note, just use your upgrade to get something with high resell value (like an iphone), sell it, then buy the Note. Even if the Note comes to the US next year, you won't be able to get it for $400 if you use your upgrade now to get a Nitro for $250.
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I actually have two lines (one that I used in a wifi access point) that are available for upgrade. In any case, I'd rather stick with my Infuse than get an iPhone! That's a downgrade!

I'm not suggesting you actually use the iphone, just buy it, sell it, then buy what you really want with the profit. It's just a way of taking advantage of the subsidy without being limited to the phones they officially subsidize.

dscline said:
I'm not suggesting you actually use the iphone, just buy it, sell it, then buy what you really want with the profit. It's just a way of taking advantage of the subsidy without being limited to the phones they officially subsidize.
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Oh. Well, I was looking for a replacement for my Infuse, for the next few months at least.
Anyway - I did pick the Nitro up at lunch. The screen is SUPER crisp, though it does suffer from the lack of contrast range of the Super AMOLED screen. So far I like it. We'll see how it goes over the next month.
It is also LTE, and I did some side-by-side comparisons, and it definitely loads up web pages faster (though that could also be the fast proc; I'm not sure).

if youre fine with gingerbread, i'd say grab the nitro. samsung already announced the note will be getting ICS. LG are normally slow to update their phones (look at the optimus 2x, only just got gingerbread quite recently).
on the bright side, the LG uses a 4.5inch IPS panel combined with a HD resolution. the combination leads to incredibly sharp pictures with quite vivid colours. i wouldnt mind giving one a go myself. the only major downsides with the LG are tiny built in storage and the poor battery life. but if you have a 32gb class 10 microSD card and charge your phone on a nightly basis anyway, that wont be an issue.

The Note's Amoled screen will definitely have burn-ins, maybe in months if you are a heavy user. The Nitro's screen won't have any of that problem since it's screen is LCD. One thing to consider.

The massive width of the Note is the only thing I don't like, and has me considering selling and switching to Optimus LTE (or Nitro HD if it can be unlocked). The Note's screen is beautiful, taking screenshots is super easy with the stylus or with palm swipe. If Note was 1280x720 it would not be quite as wide. I do love the S-Calendar and S-Memo apps, with or without the stylus, and Samsung's text message app is nice looking too.
9 Dec - Just saw Galaxy S II HD LTE specs. 1280 x 720, 4.7". This could be perfect. Would be much easier to handle one-handed. It is only 3 mm wider than S II, and actually 1 mm less than Skyrocket in width. If they would only add the S-Pen and its apps!

cushcalc said:
The massive width of the Note is the only thing I don't like, and has me considering selling and switching to Optimus LTE (or Nitro HD if it can be unlocked). The Note's screen is beautiful, taking screenshots is super easy with the stylus or with palm swipe. If Note was 1280x720 it would not be quite as wide. I do love the S-Calendar and S-Memo apps, with or without the stylus, and Samsung's text message app is nice looking too. Doesn't have Universal Inbox for Mail, which the Atrix 2 had - just found out that Optimus LTE does have Universal Inbox.
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Yeah; I did pick it up yesterday and I was actually quite impressed with the Mail app. The only thing it is missing is that you cannot auto-sync folders other than your Inbox in Exchange accounts. BUT, I only need that for RSS feeds anyway, and I can always install another mail app for just RSS.
I am bummed though because while I could root it, I was having some problems with some apps and I used BusyBox installer to try to update BusyBox, and it broke my root! Now, I have superuser installed but it cannot actually authorize anything, and SuperOneClick can't do anything because it keeps trying to use the old BusyBox (I think). So I believe I'm stuck until someone comes up with some ODIN images...

SolusCado said:
Hi all - I've been planning to upgrade from my Infuse 4G to a Note for a while now, primarily because of the extra screen real estate (obviously), though I hear the battery on the Note is killer as well. The thing is though that the Note isn't available in the States, which means I'm looking at $700-$800 at least to get one. Typically I'd be okay with that, but these days more and more phones are actually making it over here, and I know there is a rumor that the Note will follow suit. I'd hate to spend $800 just to see it for $400 in a couple months. I'm thinking I'd rather get something like the LG Nitro for now, which I can get for $250, and then still get the Note when it hits the States for less anyway - and still probably spend less than getting a Note right now.
Anyway, I'm looking for some opinions... The fact that there isn't a thread for the LG Nitro here yet counts for something, but I'm sure there will be one soon enough. It looks like some of the Optimus drivers work for rooting, so I'm okay there. And I don't care about the stylus at all. So it really just comes down to screen - Super AMOLED 5.3", or super high pixel density 4.5"? And is the battery on the Note really that awesome?
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If you're not dieing for the Note (Like I was haha), just wait until the price drops to $600.
DO NOT buy the AT&T N7000B, the Note that's coming to the states
Heres Why:
-The USA Note will have the 1.5ghz Snapdragon processor SoC, similiar to the T-mobile Galaxy S2 and the LTE Galaxy S2, which is even worse than the 1.2ghz Exynos in the Galaxy S2. The LTE Galaxy S2 or dubbed the "****rocket" by AT&T and the T-mobile Galaxy S2's users have reported laggy transitions, bad performance when gaming, and general slowness.
-AT&T LTE is probably the biggest marketing trap ever created. The people who want LTE think that the NEW LTE phone will be better, but they are generally worse (hardware wise). LTE from AT&T gives you decent speeds IF you live in one of the 9 cities that has AT&T LTE coverage. BUT... if you use too much data too fast, which is almost impossible to stop on LTE, you get throttled.
Then your download speeds on LTE are 0.05kbps
-AT&T and USA carriers have been found to put software that tracks your EVERY move on the device and they can see EXACTLY what you're doing. Big Brother is watching...
-AT&T is famous for releasing butchered versions of smartphones after incorporating LTE, so much so that developers for our OG Note will not be able to port over ROMS/Kernels. Basicly you're gonna receive no developer support. The AT&T Skyrocket section is so depressing that there are 2 developers, and the users are beginning to start paying for ROMS.
-AT&T bloatware... will hinder your device and sometimes you may not even realize what bloatware they have on your USA Note.
Well if that doesn't stop you from buying the USA Note, I don't know what will. While others read this, I'm going to think of a clever name to make fun of the USA Note with.

xAnimal5 said:
If you're not dieing for the Note (Like I was haha), just wait until the price drops to $600.
DO NOT buy the AT&T N7000B, the Note that's coming to the states
Heres Why:
-The USA Note will have the 1.5ghz Snapdragon processor SoC, similiar to the T-mobile Galaxy S2 and the LTE Galaxy S2, which is even worse than the 1.2ghz Exynos in the Galaxy S2. The LTE Galaxy S2 or dubbed the "****rocket" by AT&T and the T-mobile Galaxy S2's users have reported laggy transitions, bad performance when gaming, and general slowness.
-AT&T LTE is probably the biggest marketing trap ever created. The people who want LTE think that the NEW LTE phone will be better, but they are generally worse (hardware wise). LTE from AT&T gives you decent speeds IF you live in one of the 9 cities that has AT&T LTE coverage. BUT... if you use too much data too fast, which is almost impossible to stop on LTE, you get throttled.
Then your download speeds on LTE are 0.05kbps
-AT&T and USA carriers have been found to put software that tracks your EVERY move on the device and they can see EXACTLY what you're doing. Big Brother is watching...
-AT&T is famous for releasing butchered versions of smartphones after incorporating LTE, so much so that developers for our OG Note will not be able to port over ROMS/Kernels. Basicly you're gonna receive no developer support. The AT&T Skyrocket section is so depressing that there are 2 developers, and the users are beginning to start paying for ROMS.
-AT&T bloatware... will hinder your device and sometimes you may not even realize what bloatware they have on your USA Note.
Well if that doesn't stop you from buying the USA Note, I don't know what will. While others read this, I'm going to think of a clever name to make fun of the USA Note with.
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I really don't care about the whole CarrierIQ stuff, and AT&T is actually getting a lot better about bloatware - you can uninstall all the crap they pre-loaded on the Nitro (though it's easy enough to freeze such apps anyway). Developer support would be a concern, and I happen to be one of those living (and working) in an area with LTE coverage - so the extra speed is ... well, something. But the processor change... why would they do that?

SolusCado said:
I really don't care about the whole CarrierIQ stuff, and AT&T is actually getting a lot better about bloatware - you can uninstall all the crap they pre-loaded on the Nitro (though it's easy enough to freeze such apps anyway). Developer support would be a concern, and I happen to be one of those living (and working) in an area with LTE coverage - so the extra speed is ... well, something. But the processor change... why would they do that?
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Well, right now it's half speculation/half leaked reports. The general consensus that people have reached is that it's the Snapdragon.
As for why... I have come to believe that AT&T likes using Snapdragons primarily because they are cheaper to manufacture/or they receive a discount for the parts.
Ah, another detail I forgot to mention (you may already know this) but... LTE radios require extra space and that adds extra thickness to the phone, as well as changes the dimensions--not too much, but enough to make our OG cases unusable for the USA note.

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Well, right now it's half speculation/half leaked reports. The general consensus that people have reached is that it's the Snapdragon.
As for why... I have come to believe that AT&T likes using Snapdragons primarily because they are cheaper to manufacture/or they receive a discount for the parts.
Ah, another detail I forgot to mention (you may already know this) but... LTE radios require extra space and that adds extra thickness to the phone, as well as changes the dimensions--not too much, but enough to make our OG cases unusable for the USA note.
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AT&T isn't the manufacturer, so I can't imagine parts cost is a factor. It's probably more likely a power consumption/radio interference issue.
Good point on the LTE thickness! I'll probably just enjoy my Note for now, and then when it does hit the States take that opportunity to check out the screen and form factor in person - make sure I really prefer it to the Nitro - and then order one from overseas...

I myself used the "if it comes to AT&T with LTE it's probably going to end up with a slower processor" argument as a reason to get an international unit now. But...
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-AT&T LTE is probably the biggest marketing trap ever created. The people who want LTE think that the NEW LTE phone will be better, but they are generally worse (hardware wise). LTE from AT&T gives you decent speeds IF you live in one of the 9 cities that has AT&T LTE coverage. BUT... if you use too much data too fast, which is almost impossible to stop on LTE, you get throttled.
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I don't understand this. Assuming your data usage doesn't change (you still go to the same sites, download the same data, etc.), you shouldn't use any more data than you would on 3G. Now, if your saying that because you CAN download data faster an LTE, you COULD use more data and therefore get into trouble faster, that's hardly a downside of LTE. That's like saying you want a slower car because you get tickets in a faster car. That doesn't mean a faster car is worse, that just means you can't control yourself. Personally, I would MUCH rather have the ability to download faster, and get the same amount of data in less time. Here in Atlanta anyway, 3G is really bogged down, and when I'm at a crowded event I may not be able to get any service. I would love to have the ability to use the much less crowded spectrum. But if I have to get a slower CPU and less battery life, then it becomes less appealing.
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Well, right now it's half speculation/half leaked reports. The general consensus that people have reached is that it's the Snapdragon.
As for why... I have come to believe that AT&T likes using Snapdragons primarily because they are cheaper to manufacture/or they receive a discount for the parts.
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I don't think that has anything to do with AT&T. Even the Korean LTE Note supposedly uses the Snapdragon. Why would Samsung use someone else's CPU in their LTE enabled phones if their own CPU could do it? I don't understand why, but apparently the current version of Exynos just can't do LTE.

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I myself used the "if it comes to AT&T with LTE it's probably going to end up with a slower processor" argument as a reason to get an international unit now. But...
I don't understand this. Assuming your data usage doesn't change (you still go to the same sites, download the same data, etc.), you shouldn't use any more data than you would on 3G. Now, if your saying that because you CAN download data faster an LTE, you COULD use more data and therefore get into trouble faster, that's hardly a downside of LTE. That's like saying you want a slower car because you get tickets in a faster car. That doesn't mean a faster car is worse, that just means you can't control yourself. Personally, I would MUCH rather have the ability to download faster, and get the same amount of data in less time. Here in Atlanta anyway, 3G is really bogged down, and when I'm at a crowded event I may not be able to get any service. I would love to have the ability to use the much less crowded spectrum. But if I have to get a slower CPU and less battery life, then it becomes less appealing.
I don't think that has anything to do with AT&T. Even the Korean LTE Note supposedly uses the Snapdragon. Why would Samsung use someone else's CPU in their LTE enabled phones if their own CPU could do it? I don't understand why, but apparently the current version of Exynos just can't do LTE.
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Well, from the reports I've been hearing from my friend with an HTC Vivid, he said that some of the bloat that ships with LTE phones auto-updates even if you have it turned off. If unnoticed over a long period of time, it stacks up.
Just for me at least, if I get LTE... I will probably hit 30gbs per month haha, so I might as well stick with Faux G.
I also researched the processor predicament as well. It seems the only chipset + processor that works with Quad-band phones with LTE are the Snapdragons. It's a shame though because Snapdragons are unreliable and give a studdery performance. I played with the ****rocket at my corporate AT&T store in NYC and it was extremely laggy compared to the model for the OG SGSII.
Exynos Chipsets just aren't compatible with LTE radios yet I guess. Oh well, if I get LTE, I'll get throttled after a couple of hours, so I'll stick with my OG Note.
There may also be the question of ICS for the USA Note. Depending on when it's released, it may not ship with ICS. If that's the case, USA Note purchasers will be held hostage waiting for AT&T to give them an update for it.

One big reason to get International version.
PHYSICAL HOME BUTTON.
The size of the Note makes it very hard to solely rely on the smallish recessed upper right power button. Especially one handed.
Exynos is also a good reason. And if it gets any thicker it would fee "too big" IMHO.

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. . . I am bummed though because while I could root it, I was having some problems with some apps and I used BusyBox installer to try to update BusyBox, and it broke my root! Now, I have superuser installed but it cannot actually authorize anything, and SuperOneClick can't do anything because it keeps trying to use the old BusyBox (I think). So I believe I'm stuck until someone comes up with some ODIN images...
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I would start over, root with Chainfire setup.
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cushcalc said:
I would start over, root with Chainfire setup.
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Wouldn't I need a device-specific kernel for ODIN to do that?

Restore to stock before re-attempt root.
SolusCado said:
Wouldn't I need a device-specific kernel for ODIN to do that?
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I don't know about doing it with Odin.
I would follow dr.ketan's guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18978158&postcount=1):
"Now How I can revert back to Stock ROM/Unroot (In case of replacemet may i need)
I you have Just rooted only but not added CWM - Just Download this Extract - Execute - Rum Me unroot.bat
If You have Root + CWM - then first find out original stock kernel (zImage file)
Now place this file in zImage folder, n repeat procedure(Initial CFRoot Flasher), which you have done at time of pushing CWM by selecting I am rooted already
Now unroot with above said unrooting tool."

I would never get the Nitro myself.
-Development by the community will most likely suck for it
-The battery life is awful
-Average build quality
-Sub par camera for 8mp
-Not an amoled screen

Streak 7 worth it at this point?

I bought one a while ago when there was a sale on them, but ultimately returned it because I didn't really have a use for it at the time and was kinda strapped on cash. Anyway, considering getting another one, primarily since it's the only decent 7" tablet I know of with a full-size SD slot (which would make transferring videos a breeze - my primary use for it).
Is it still worth it, though, considering the low screen resolution? There's the Huawei Mediapad / T-Mobile Springboard, which in comparison runs for about $100-$150 more, and has a 1280x800 screen, in addition to HDMI-out without a dock (and possibly phone call support with ICS, although I can't confirm that on the Springboard at least). Of course, that $100-$150 extra may not be worth it, or could be put toward something else.
I mean, the two primary uses of the device would be watching videos and reading books...would a higher resolution really be that beneficial? Most of the videos I'd plan to load onto the device would be like 620x350 or something like that - all below 800x480; being able to load 720p files and have them hardware-accelerated would be nice, though.

magus57 said:
I bought one a while ago when there was a sale on them, but ultimately returned it because I didn't really have a use for it at the time and was kinda strapped on cash. Anyway, considering getting another one, primarily since it's the only decent 7" tablet I know of with a full-size SD slot (which would make transferring videos a breeze - my primary use for it).
Is it still worth it, though, considering the low screen resolution? There's the Huawei Mediapad / T-Mobile Springboard, which in comparison runs for about $100-$150 more, and has a 1280x800 screen, in addition to HDMI-out without a dock (and possibly phone call support with ICS, although I can't confirm that on the Springboard at least). Of course, that $100-$150 extra may not be worth it, or could be put toward something else.
I mean, the two primary uses of the device would be watching videos and reading books...would a higher resolution really be that beneficial? Most of the videos I'd plan to load onto the device would be like 620x350 or something like that - all below 800x480; being able to load 720p files and have them hardware-accelerated would be nice, though.
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I don't think it is worth the $300 price any longer, but if you can find it for $100-$150, then I say it would be worth it.

At this point I wouldn't buy one that didn't come with a warranty. Parts are too difficult/impossible to find.
good luck,

otnos said:
I don't think it is worth the $300 price any longer, but if you can find it for $100-$150, then I say it would be worth it.
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DCoop said:
At this point I wouldn't buy one that didn't come with a warranty. Parts are too difficult/impossible to find.
good luck,
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In that case, any idea where I could buy one with a warranty for around $200? Or a 4G T-Mobile version with a warranty for around $300?
EDIT: Anybody know if this site is legit, at least with the 1-year warranty?:
https://www.blinq.com/#computers-ne...d-2-2-froyo-16gb-tablet/51763?source=googleps

magus57 said:
In that case, any idea where I could buy one with a warranty for around $200? Or a 4G T-Mobile version with a warranty for around $300?
EDIT: Anybody know if this site is legit, at least with the 1-year warranty?:
https://www.blinq.com/#computers-ne...d-2-2-froyo-16gb-tablet/51763?source=googleps
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Seeing as they are discontinues it's a pretty long shot as to finding one with a warranty for that money. The fact it has a warranty and that new is gonna drive the price up to 250 or 300

blinq.com got really good reviews over at Amazon, so they are legitimate. The Dell 7's they have are used but they do come with a 1 year warranty. Having said that, and having had a Streak7 for 4 months, I'd recommend looking for something else. I just checked my local Craigslist and saw a brand new HP Touchpad 32Gig for $250. I'm sure it could be bought for less if you had cash.
I really grew to like my S-7, I had an ipad2 for several months and it doesn't compare of course, but for what it costs (I got my Streak 7 for $150 used) it does a great job. Yes the screen isn't great but you adjust to it, but it certainly wasn't worth the $300-400 it originally cost. If Dell would upgrade the screen and processor it would be a winner. I love the 7" screen and that's what I'm going to buy in the future, something with a really nice 7" screen and a new processor. I use mine most of the time in a car or airplane and the 7" is so much better in size for those applications.
I dropped my Streak onto a tile floor from my desk and it cracked the glass that covers the screen. The screen itself is perfect, just the glass covering is cracked. It's hard to find another glass that covers the screen, there aren't any in the US, the Chinese want $90 to deliver a new screen with glass, and mine only cost $150 to begin with. So the difference as far as my monetary loss between not buying or buying the screen is $60. So I could write off the $60 and put the $90 screen cost towards an HP or other tablet.
Good luck with what you decide,

Find something else. There isn't much development for the streak 7. Only one ROM out there if you like to play around with stuff like that. the battery is pretty weak. 4 hours our less and then you're scrambling for a charger if you're doing anything important. I have had my 4g version for about a year and the headphone jack is acting up. I tried to clean it andit still usually only likes to play out of the right ear. I have to jiggle it around and then not move it. I like to use my Bluetooth headphones most of the time, but that runs the Barry down even faster. I am going to try and find something else soon. But I do like the 7 inch form factor. Not to big, not to small.

Battery life isn't bad after a custom rom and a few tweeks.
Get ICS B4 or HoneyStreak R8, get SetCPU and set up some profiles to slow down the processor when screen is off.
I usually get about 48 hours of standby time, and 5-8 hours of video watching.

giveen said:
Battery life isn't bad after a custom rom and a few tweeks.
Get ICS B4 or HoneyStreak R8, get SetCPU and set up some profiles to slow down the processor when screen is off.
I usually get about 48 hours of standby time, and 5-8 hours of video watching.
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Does it not already have deep sleep at kernel level?
Looking into buying since rez isn't an issue and many other tablets that are of same price range have no development know not much here but least a few ROMs and Kernel.
It'd just be used when mobile as carry a 19" workstation anyway.
Main device would still be SGSII.
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