Hey all, recently rooted my Hero to CM7 RC4 and I've noticed that it doesn't actually sleep, even when the screen is off. If I turn the screen off (to "sleep" it) for a minute, the up-time (in Status) also goes up by a minute. My battery life is also very poor and is likely a result of the phone never spooling down. Poking around the web, some people thought this was from the default SMS app, but this happened before I had ever sent a text (only received one.) I even installed handcent and used it for a bit, but the phone still doesn't sleep properly. Any ideas?
Have you gone into Spare Parts and checked Partial Wake?
stayclean said:
Have you gone into Spare Parts and checked Partial Wake?
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I did, but it said the only appreciable lock was 3m 25s for Android System (all time.) Dialer was 4s all time. There are no stats for 'time since last boot' or 'time since last unplugged'; I recently rebooted and have the phone currently plugged in.
Do you use wi-fi, or 3G? Bad or good phone service? Stuff auto-syncing on a regular basis? By the way, pretty sure up-time just displays how long the device has been on, nothing to do with sleep time or anything.
gaan kak said:
Hey all, recently rooted my Hero to CM7 RC4 and I've noticed that it doesn't actually sleep, even when the screen is off. If I turn the screen off (to "sleep" it) for a minute, the up-time (in Status) also goes up by a minute. My battery life is also very poor and is likely a result of the phone never spooling down. Poking around the web, some people thought this was from the default SMS app, but this happened before I had ever sent a text (only received one.) I even installed handcent and used it for a bit, but the phone still doesn't sleep properly. Any ideas?
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You do have the End button Behaviour to sleep right?
its in sparepatrss?
stayclean said:
Do you use wi-fi, or 3G? Bad or good phone service? Stuff auto-syncing on a regular basis? By the way, pretty sure up-time just displays how long the device has been on, nothing to do with sleep time or anything.
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Right now I have wi-fi off, with generally average phone service on 3G. Sometimes it dips down to 1 bar or reaches 4, but is usually 2-3.
I have the governor set to 'ondemand', with a min of ~176 and a max of ~714. The brightness is set to auto. I don't know if I have much stuff auto-syncing, is there a way to check if I do? I don't have very many apps installed - I just rooted this afternoon, and this is my first android phone so I'm trying to take it slow.
davidevan said:
You do have the End button Behaviour to sleep right?
its in sparepatrss?
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Pretty sure in Android, the end button defaults to sleep anyway, so I don't think that really accomplishes much. Maybe try turning off 3G when not using the phone actively? That will drain the battery a bit.
stayclean said:
Do you use wi-fi, or 3G? Bad or good phone service? Stuff auto-syncing on a regular basis? By the way, pretty sure up-time just displays how long the device has been on, nothing to do with sleep time or anything.
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Yeah, you're right...uptime has nothing to do with sleeping.
To the OP...reboot the phone then let the phone run for about 1.5 - 2 hours or so without using it. Then go to Menu - Settings - About phone - Battery use. Then tap the graph at the top where it shows your time and compare your Awake time bar to your screen on time bar. They should be similar, with a bit more in the awake time depending on wat is set to sync.
To be honest, there is no fix to be honest. I've had this problem on many occasions and it fixes itself automatically whenever it wants to.
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What radio are you using??? What kernel are you using??? Also try unckecking auto brightness. Also I think I read the ondemad governor has no sleep frequency,so if your clocked at 748 then your still at 748 when you hit the end button to sleep. Also there's no need to have the end button set to sleep in spare parts the rom should sleep on its on. lm not sure but I don't think the phone will sleep being on that governor. Try smartass or conservative and see if it sleeps then. Also make sure you have compatibility unchecked in spare parts. Also in settings under accounts&sync uncheck mobile data. That will need to be rechecked again to use your data services. Having it on all the time drains big time. Hope some of this helps. If not just post here or pm me and if I can help I will good luck
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laie1472 said:
What radio are you using??? What kernel are you using??? Also try unckecking auto brightness. Also I think I read the ondemad governor has no sleep frequency,so if your clocked at 748 then your still at 748 when you hit the end button to sleep. Also there's no need to have the end button set to sleep in spare parts the rom should sleep on its on. lm not sure but I don't think the phone will sleep being on that governor. Try smartass or conservative and see if it sleeps then. Also make sure you have compatibility unchecked in spare parts. Also in settings under accounts&sync uncheck mobile data. That will need to be rechecked again to use your data services. Having it on all the time drains big time. Hope some of this helps. If not just post here or pm me and if I can help I will good luck
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I am merely speaking from experience with no programming or dev experience, but I think ondemand actually does sleep. I use it at 176/729 and my awake and screen on is always similar. See the screenie below and look at the broken blue line below the battery up time. If it wasn't sleeping that line would be solid. Again, this is just my personal experience using ondemand.
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make it sleep=
just give it some nice warm hot cocoa with a dab of whisky, works like a charm
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I am merely speaking from experience with no programming or dev experience, but I think ondemand actually does sleep. I use it at 176/729 and my awake and screen on is always similar. See the screenie below and look at the broken blue line below the battery up time. If it wasn't sleeping that line would be solid. Again, this is just my personal experience using ondemand.
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I mean you could be right, I'm no dev by far myself but
I'm using jm's kernel 806. Its based off of the same kernel as the aosp gb builds. If you check his kernel thread I asked this question and was given a different answer. Maybe I misunderstood him or didn't ask the question correctly. I'll send him a pm and see if he's in the mood to share some knowledge. I read that link you posted on aosp's thread, very helpful in understanding the kernels operations a bit better. But it didn't mention what those selected governors default to while sleeping. I mean how can I really know what frequency the kernel is currently at while its sleeping??? The min/max can be set with the default oc app. But not the off screen settings. Unless I'm missing something?? And that could be the case??
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Modified Hero
I too am noticing lots of awake time on my battery graph with CM7 RC4. I rebooted about an hour ago, and haven't touched my phone until taking these screenshots. (Sorry for hosting them offsite, the network here blocks the xda uploader.)
http://img828.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=sparepartspartialwakesil.png
One thing I found very interesting is that even though my phone shows nearly 50 minutes of 'awake' time, my battery still reads 100% even though it's been unplugged the entire time.
sleepy
laie1472 said:
I mean you could be right, I'm no dev by far myself but
I'm using jm's kernel 806. Its based off of the same kernel as the aosp gb builds. If you check his kernel thread I asked this question and was given a different answer. Maybe I misunderstood him or didn't ask the question correctly. I'll send him a pm and see if he's in the mood to share some knowledge. I read that link you posted on aosp's thread, very helpful in understanding the kernels operations a bit better. But it didn't mention what those selected governors default to while sleeping. I mean how can I really know what frequency the kernel is currently at while its sleeping??? The min/max can be set with the default oc app. But not the off screen settings. Unless I'm missing something?? And that could be the case??
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I haven't a clue...maybe JM can shed some light for us
the sleep would follow the governor design. Smartass caps at 352 and scales down to your min setting based on your input, interactive and ondemand scale differently... ondemand would scale down based on cpu load (app use) to your min, and interactive (input based) would scale down based on your input to your min. IMHO interactive and ondemand are the best. I use ondemand most of the time because I can set the min lower than interactive and still listen to music with the screen off, no choppiness. I do sometimes switch to 352 min interactive or 264 ondemand when I *think* my phone is being slow, lol.
il Duce said:
the sleep would follow the governor design. Smartass caps at 352 and scales down to your min setting based on your input, interactive and ondemand scale differently... ondemand would scale down based on cpu load (app use) to your min, and interactive (input based) would scale down based on your input to your min. IMHO interactive and ondemand are the best. I use ondemand most of the time because I can set the min lower than interactive and still listen to music with the screen off, no choppiness. I do sometimes switch to 352 min interactive or 264 ondemand when I *think* my phone is being slow, lol.
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I have always used 176/729 ondemand and had no issues with music and get great battery life (and my phone sleeps ).
il Duce said:
the sleep would follow the governor design. Smartass caps at 352 and scales down to your min setting based on your input, interactive and ondemand scale differently... ondemand would scale down based on cpu load (app use) to your min, and interactive (input based) would scale down based on your input to your min. IMHO interactive and ondemand are the best. I use ondemand most of the time because I can set the min lower than interactive and still listen to music with the screen off, no choppiness. I do sometimes switch to 352 min interactive or 264 ondemand when I *think* my phone is being slow, lol.
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But is there any way to accurately check or confirm the actual frequency??? Or follow the governor design???
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But is there any way to accurately check or confirm the actual frequency??? Or follow the governor design???
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I don't know that I understand you... The whole point is that they scale based on conditions, so the actual freq would be changing constantly (but only to your min setting). The smartass gov is the only one with screen off/on specific freq - it caps to 352 screen off, and min is 528 screen on... I suppose there's a way you could monitor it using adb, maybe ddms, but it would be changing based on your current load or input, so you wouldn't really get much from it. Does that help?
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I don't know that I understand you... The whole point is that they scale based on conditions, so the actual freq would be changing constantly (but only to your min setting). The smartass gov is the only one with screen off/on specific freq - it caps to 352 screen off, and min is 528 screen on... I suppose there's a way you could monitor it using adb, maybe ddms, but it would be changing based on your current load or input, so you wouldn't really get much from it. Does that help?
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Here's what I'm getting at. If the frequency constantly changes due to the users demand or cpu load and maxes out at the selected frequency but doesn't go below the selected frequency either. Then lets say its in the middle of scaling up or down and the user hits the end button, then what frequency would the cpu be at??? Being that it's no way of telling if it hit the min or the max user defined choice. So if the user has a min of 352 and a max of 768 and this were to happen. Couldn't the kernel then be put to sleep at a frequency of 768 ??? After all its still in line with the user defined settings. With apps like over clock widget and set/cpu you could select the off screen clock settings but being as those apps conflict with the native app how can the user be sure of what the off screen frequency is set to if this were the case???
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Hello, anyone know how to configure setcpu to save the battery while maintaining a smooth flow of the phone?
I saw that we could create "rules": those who did, can you post your configuration.
Thank you
Yes, i've good settings!
Profile: Auto-detect
Max 998400
Min 245000
CPU Governor On demand
Set on boot checked
Profiles on
Sleep/standby enabled
Max 245
Min 245
Battery profiles
Power <30%
768 Max
245 Min
These are same settings as teknologist have. This is the man who did the kernel for MCR ROMs. In my eyes he is a god in this things. So I belive him full!
see this and I think should be added here. http://www.pokedev.com/setcpu/
Formel-LMS said:
Yes, i've good settings!
Profile: Auto-detect
Max 998400
Min 245000
CPU Governor On demand
Set on boot checked
Profiles on
Sleep/standby enabled
Max 245
Min 245
Battery profiles
Power <30%
768 Max
245 Min
These are same settings as teknologist have. This is the man who did the kernel for MCR ROMs. In my eyes he is a god in this things. So I belive him full!
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With this configuration, you save the battery?
If yu wanna have the longest battery time, just use all 245/245 Mhz.
But this makes no sense.
I think you wanna have it between battery/speed, isn't it?
Formel-LMS said:
If yu wanna have the longest battery time, just use all 245/245 Mhz.
But this makes no sense.
I think you wanna have it between battery/speed, isn't it?
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obviously! I want my battery will hold at least two days! I will try your setup throughout the weekend and I'll make a return Monday.
thx
tcastel said:
obviously! I want my battery will hold at least two days! I will try your setup throughout the weekend and I'll make a return Monday.
thx
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Don't hold your breath. Im being serious here. It wont last unless it sits in standby most of the time and then you're still pushing it.
Spend the 25$ extra and get a second battery.
2 DAYS?! Let me know if you are able to accomplish that somehow! I've tried everything; ROMS, Kernels, Juice Defender, SetCPU, anything you can think of and about the best I can get is 15-16 hours with moderate to heavy usage. I think I am actually going to buy a spare battery today.
.. that's not hard to do, 2days... even more.
Just stop all apps to update, stop auto sync, stop background sync...
you will be surprised*
I knocked down my cpu to 500 or so in all conditions, phone still feels responsive.
If you want two days, turn off 3g, turn off sync, turn off brightness. You'll not only get great battery life but a $600 dumbphone to boot!
this is what you need to do...
sleep/standby 245min 245 max cpu governer: powersave
charging 245min 883 max cpu governer: on demand
'normal': 460min 998max cpu governer: conservative
if u find that with normal use the phone isnt as snappy as it used to be, and this bothers u, then change the cpu governer back to on demand for the normal profile.
i've had amazing battery life since i tried these settings.
Also....some apps prevent the phone from sleeping so keep an eye out if ur battery is just literally disappearing!
Setting the max too low on any profile is not a good idea. This can cause tasks to take too long to complete and queues and memory to fill. This can make your phone unstable and arguably increase battery usage due to increased management overheads.
Some overhead above minimum is always preferable. I would consider anything less than 245/576 quite extreme and normally undesirable.
djmcnz said:
Setting the max too low on any profile is not a good idea. This can cause tasks to take too long to complete and queues and memory to fill. This can make your phone unstable and arguably increase battery usage due to increased management overheads.
Some overhead above minimum is always preferable. I would consider anything less than 245/576 quite extreme and normally undesirable.
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yeah i heard about this but i have never encountered any problems. obviously its different for everyone but i would say try 245/245...if your getting too much drain with the phone on standby then use 245/576 with on demand governor.
Formel-LMS said:
Yes, i've good settings!
Profile: Auto-detect
Max 998400
Min 245000
CPU Governor On demand
Set on boot checked
Profiles on
Sleep/standby enabled
Max 245
Min 245
Battery profiles
Power <30%
768 Max
245 Min
These are same settings as teknologist have. This is the man who did the kernel for MCR ROMs. In my eyes he is a god in this things. So I belive him full!
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I do not see much difference!!
tcastel said:
I do not see much difference!!
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To be honest everyone "thinks" you can see a night and say difference just by tweaking the clock's and installing more efficient kernels. You can't and wont.
Those things may save you 5-10% over the course of a day but don't expect miracles. If you look at your battery history information you'll see that the system and any CPU related item can become relatively low doing all the efficiency modifications yet the battery still poops too soon.
Now look at the display. Thats where it's all going and as far as I know there is nothing anyone can do about that on our side. I run with the display back lighting 100% OFF and it still shows at a HUGE portion of my energy use. ~50% and sometimes more.
The day we get more efficient screen technology is the day we will be able to possibly use these things for 2 days on one charge... Either that or more powerful battery technology.
You know guys, I only have 3 scales on the application. Userspace, ondemand, and performance. I also have no idea what Priority means and how high or low to put them for a good profile! What do I do?
ma1993 said:
You know guys, I only have 3 scales on the application. Userspace, ondemand, and performance. I also have no idea what Priority means and how high or low to put them for a good profile! What do I do?
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Set a default scaling type that suits you, typically On Demand or Uberspace and then set up your profiles. All of your profiles can use the same scaling (mine do).
The set your profile priorities in the order you want them to apply, 100 is the highest priority. For example, you might want the phone to run with less overclock when the battery is low and you want this condition to apply all of the time then you would give it a higher priority than other rules so it always executes. A better example might be a temperature profile. If the phone is hot you want to clock it down and want this to NEVER be overridden by another profile then you would set this to very high (say 99) so it could NOT be substituted by another rule.
[KERNEL] mOCk kernel v1.6.12 for MIUI
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originally made for the Triumph. Works on both CacingKalung's MIUI 2.2.3 and elol's Galnet MIUI mod for the Mi410 and supports 2 way call recording!
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This is a first on MIUI for me
Undervolts great too and has no performance issues till now. Been using it for the last week
how to use undervolt settings ? i hope that will improve the battery life
Edit .: cant get the file ..says its not accessble or removed ??
ok i got it installed !!
used this link
could you tell me how to set the undervolt settings.. getting no frills now
Edit:got incredicontrol set up voltages
Got no frills set up governors n I/o scheduler
Lets see how it goes
apart from 2 way call recording, what extra advantages of this KERNEL. specially in terms of gaming......
how about incoming call valume?
undervolting now working ...its not getting saved !! gives the same default values once rebooted
Zailer. I reckon you haven't used Incredicontrol before
Everything is working fine for me.
So far I haven't encountered the call volume bug but it is indeed lower in volume than that on rc3.
Gaming performance is inferior to rc3 but better than MIUI 1.1.x but the phone is very responsive at even lower clocks.
No other advantage though.
You get 2 way call recording in rc3 too (infact better in the latter since amr recording and in call controls are not working in MIUI).
I haven't been successful with 2wcr in MIUI prior to this. Ymmv.
Sent from my Spice MI-410 on MIUI 2.2.3
thanks for the response.
but whats the big deal in using incredicontrol ? just set the undervolting as the developer told in his thread rite(675,700..). i did it . but when i reboot and check them its shows the default value (900 ,900.. )
should i believe from what you have just told ...that these incredicontrol will show the normal values even when the actual undervolt is working ??
i have tried voltage controll also .. its says undervolting is not allowed in this kernel
may be you can help me by sharing the right way to do things
First check in Settings -> about phone whether the kernel update has been applied or not.
Incredicontrol should remember the voltage values if the set on reboot option is checked.
I am using even more aggressive undervolt settings than the ones suggested by the kernel dev.
Shall post some screenshots later.
Hope this helps
Sent from my Spice MI-410 on MIUI 2.2.3
Testing this kernel now, using CacingKalung's Rom build.
I'm more interested in battery life so I'll be playing around with that, previously on the pure CacingKalung build, I managed to reach 13 hours with undervolting involved, but on the smartassv2 governor. I have Sync all running, Trillian running, I use Navigation, Whatsapp, Wifi and 3g nearly 24/7.
Will be trying to break that even further this time around with InteractiveX. For those interested, my device seems to be able to take much lower voltages, here's what they are.
61440: 600
122880: 600
245760: 600
368640: 600
460800: 600
576000: 850
652800: 850
768000: 850
806400: 900
921600: 925
1024000: 975
1113000: 1000
1209600: 1075
1305600: 1125
1401600: 1150
Will try to reach lower volts with this ROM and report back in.
Btw, IncrediControl works for me fine, saves my voltages FYI.
Remember to reset your battery stats after you flash the kernel. I noticed some significant battery drain before that.
Nice uv :thumbup:
Btw, I have been doing 1.4 ghz @ 1100mv, 1.5 @ 1150 and 1.6 @ 1200
Sent from my Spice MI-410 on MIUI 2.2.3
Guys this is killing me ...
@freerad
Thanks, I appreciate u helping me in detail.. but I have surely tried using "set on boot" and its showed in the about rom page as mock
Ok now am back to ck's rom and mock kernel. I hope the link I downloaded from is the same kenel
Sent from my CSL-MI410
I tried lower before on SpeedDemon Kernel, I haven't tried to see if it's possible on this one, will do soon.
The one thing i find though is that at the speed that I type, the powersaving governors don't work for me, they don't seem to be very able to keep up with my typing speed, so for now I'm back to SmartassV2.
Will try to try for lower volts, for now the results of this kernel will take a while, I usually do daily use testing.
hamsteyr said:
Testing this kernel now, using CacingKalung's Rom build.
I'm more interested in battery life so I'll be playing around with that, previously on the pure CacingKalung build, I managed to reach 13 hours with undervolting involved, but on the smartassv2 governor. I have Sync all running, Trillian running, I use Navigation, Whatsapp, Wifi and 3g nearly 24/7.
Will be trying to break that even further this time around with InteractiveX. For those interested, my device seems to be able to take much lower voltages, here's what they are.
61440: 600
122880: 600
245760: 600
368640: 600
460800: 600
576000: 850
652800: 850
768000: 850
806400: 900
921600: 925
1024000: 975
1113000: 1000
1209600: 1075
1305600: 1125
1401600: 1150
Will try to reach lower volts with this ROM and report back in.
Btw, IncrediControl works for me fine, saves my voltages FYI.
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OMG ! it is so aggressive settings. installed the kernel and applied these voltage settings. working fine, no considerable lag or whatsoever. but I am still afraid of checking 'set on boot'
mi410 said:
OMG ! it is so aggressive settings. installed the kernel and applied these voltage settings. working fine, no considerable lag or whatsoever. but I am still afraid of checking 'set on boot'
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no, when I opened Incredicontrl after sometimes, I found some default values, not that lower values that I set. though my phone did not reboot.
need to check with checking 'set on boot'
edit: no matter what I do, voltage settings get back to some default setting,
mi410 said:
no, when I opened Incredicontrl after sometimes, I found some default values, not that lower values that I set. though my phone did not reboot.
need to check with checking 'set on boot'
edit: no matter what I do, voltage settings get back to some default setting,
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Yep + incredicontrol does not save the custom settings
That's odd then, my IncrediControl works just fine.
You should note that you should allow your IncrediControl to completely load before launching it. By this, I mean WAIT for the sign that says "Incredicontrol has been granted superuser permissions"
For me it seems that it takes a while but it happens, just not instantly. If you load IncrediControl too early, you'll see the default stock voltages.
Anyway, managed to pull 14 hours.
Reverted back to SmartAss v2, running on 1300 Mhz. My system doesn't seem to like lower volts, so these are the same volts as before. I seem to be able to work fine with even just 1200 so I may just clock it back down and try that instead.
hamsteyr said:
That's odd then, my IncrediControl works just fine.
You should note that you should allow your IncrediControl to completely load before launching it. By this, I mean WAIT for the sign that says "Incredicontrol has been granted superuser permissions"
For me it seems that it takes a while but it happens, just not instantly. If you load IncrediControl too early, you'll see the default stock voltages.
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Exactly
I too believe this is what you guys were doing wrong.
I am using my phone successfully with slightly different clocks but in some ways more aggressive and am getting 30-40% better battery life!
i.e. I still have around 30% charge left when I return home from work.
Include 2 hours of very heavy usage during my commute
Prior to this, I could barely get home with 10% charge and often my battery would discharge completely.
I have set up Tasker to overclock and undervolt along with some handy shortcuts.
I abstained from using apps like SetCPU since I have Tasker running all the time and didn't want to add another background service.
I use the context to undervolt as soon as the display is off and to overclock as soon as the display is turned on. Seems to do the trick
My undervolt / Sleep settings : 61440-1024000 Hz on Interactive governor
My overclock / Wake / Boot settings: 1024000-1612800 Hz on smartass2 governor
My voltage chart:
61440: 600
122880: 700
245760: 750
368640: 800
460800: 850
576000: 850
652800: 850
768000: 850
806400: 900
921600: 950
1024000: 975
1113000: 1000
1209600: 1050
1305600: 1075
1401600: 1100
1516800: 1150
1612800: 1200
Most of the time with these settings, my phone is on 64MHz, 1024MHz and 1.6 Ghz and is quite responsive.
Shall do an overnight cpu-spy test
For games like Blood and Glory, I jack up to 1.6 GHz at performance mode using a Tasker shortcut.
Hope this helps
mi410 said:
OMG ! it is so aggressive settings. installed the kernel and applied these voltage settings. working fine, no considerable lag or whatsoever. but I am still afraid of checking 'set on boot'
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If your phone doesn't not boot or messes up, just press down the menu button repeatedly while booting and you'll get into safe mode. Then you may clear data in application settings for IncrediControl
ok this time incredicontrol worked. but exactly how , I don't know. I just restarted the phone, charged to 100 % and then then applied these voltage settings but this time I didn't change all at a time. rather I did change one or three at the most at a time and press 'apply' each time until all settings were done. applied 'set on boot' also. need to check the battery backup now.
Trying to use that on mine, clocking 1.2 Ghz max on SmartAssV2, and 64 -> 768 Mhz Interactive X on screen off.
I'm getting some aftermarket 1600 Batteries as well, I'll see what I can get with them after this test.
Edit: It seems that the max that I'm able to reach is just 14 hours on a 1400 mAH battery, not too bad I suppose. Will post more when I get my 1600.
Hi
can anyone help me with this problem.
Every time i unlock the tab(when it wakes up from sleep) it freezes, the screen doesnt respond for about 10 seconds, after that it works normally. Interesting fact is that this problem is not there when tab is on charging.
I am running MIUI XJ 2.3.10
But the problem is consistent with all the roms: stock, ics, boca.. all.
Are you using something to overclock or underclock, or undervolt your tablet CPU?
For example, there are some people who use profiles with SetCPU. They define that whenever their screen goes off, the CPU goes to a minimum 100 MHz. Which slows it down and then the tab takes its sweet time to get back on, since it's on slow speed.
Dont know much about MIUI but maybe they have CPU settings built in or something. If you dont use any overclocking, install setcpu, select minimum 100 maximum 1000 and select ondemand governor. Share results here. Dont select or enable any profile setting etc.
tried what u said with set cpu. still didnt help..
finally after lot of searching got an app called soft lock.
now my tab wakes up instantly without any freeze..
but have to check how much battery drains becaus this app probably disables deep sleep
thank u for ur reply
obahmood said:
Are you using something to overclock or underclock, or undervolt your tablet CPU?
For example, there are some people who use profiles with SetCPU. They define that whenever their screen goes off, the CPU goes to a minimum 100 MHz. Which slows it down and then the tab takes its sweet time to get back on, since it's on slow speed.
Dont know much about MIUI but maybe they have CPU settings built in or something. If you dont use any overclocking, install setcpu, select minimum 100 maximum 1000 and select ondemand governor. Share results here. Dont select or enable any profile setting etc.
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tried what u said with set cpu. still didnt help..
finally after lot of searching got an app called soft lock.
now my tab wakes up instantly without any freeze..
but have to check how much battery drains becaus this app probably disables deep sleep
thank u for ur reply
Because both the ViperDHD and Team Venom beta forums are being used by people like us to discuss battery life, kernel tweaking and smoothness, I decided to change this into a universal Viper/Sense discussion thread. ANyone from the family of devices which include DHD, Desire Z, Desire S, IncS, dinc2, mt4g etc are welcome here. ACtually, everyone is.
The discussion was sort of started here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37246862#post37246862
Feel free to post settings and everything. We are trying to get the most of our old devices!
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CyanVivo X, default kernel.
Screen off: 245 min/max
Screen on: 245min, 1228 max.
2 hours of screen on time, 3 hours when I'm lucky, 3G is killing my battery...
Frequencies: 61-1200 MHz redux kernel.
With ondemandx governor and deadline scheduler
Undervolted consolidatedly by -25
I manage to get a battery life of 14-16 hours.
Main usage: voice calls- 1-1.5 hrs
The only problem is... Battery never reaches 100%.
Any suggestions?
Sent from my oc'd viper vivo
Using tricksterMOD, you can see that governors like interactive and ondemand have their own settings. I have been playing around with these settings, and I am still not finished with what I like yet. However you can use this post as a guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36743252&postcount=3113
With Interactive, you can set your go_highspeed_load to 806 or 768MHz. I have set my min to be 245MHz, max 1200MHz but highspeed load is 806MHz. This results in a kind of even split between the times that 245, 806 and 1200MHz are used. With ondemand or another governor, it generally spikes up to 1200MHz (your max freq) a lot, rather than scaling between the lower freqs. This results in more battery usage because you are staying at a higher freq for longer than needed. Performance is generally the same with interactive and ondemand if configured right.
What do these mean? Basically, with my device now when I touch the screen, it will ramp up to 806MHz. If the process is more than just moving something on the screen and more processing power is needed, it will automatically go to 1200MHz, and when its done and I am still touching the screen, it will go back down to 806MHz. When all I am doing is browsing xda or something, when I scroll it ramps up to 806MHz and when I leave it to read something, it will go down to 245MHz. Then obviously when its sleeping it goes into deep sleep (hopefully)
My battery life suckss.
Sent from one of the few remaining Incredible S'
markj338 said:
Using tricksterMOD, you can see that governors like interactive and ondemand have their own settings. I have been playing around with these settings, and I am still not finished with what I like yet. However you can use this post as a guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36743252&postcount=3113
With Interactive, you can set your go_highspeed_load to 806 or 768MHz. I have set my min to be 245MHz, max 1200MHz but highspeed load is 806MHz. This results in a kind of even split between the times that 245, 806 and 1200MHz are used. With ondemand or another governor, it generally spikes up to 1200MHz (your max freq) a lot, rather than scaling between the lower freqs. This results in more battery usage because you are staying at a higher freq for longer than needed. Performance is generally the same with interactive and ondemand if configured right.
What do these mean? Basically, with my device now when I touch the screen, it will ramp up to 806MHz. If the process is more than just moving something on the screen and more processing power is needed, it will automatically go to 1200MHz, and when its done and I am still touching the screen, it will go back down to 806MHz. When all I am doing is browsing xda or something, when I scroll it ramps up to 806MHz and when I leave it to read something, it will go down to 245MHz. Then obviously when its sleeping it goes into deep sleep (hopefully)
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I am gonna try nodding the governors now!
Sent from my Incredible S using xda app-developers app
Mark r these settings good?.... Btw what nr i should put to boost?
janarp said:
Mark r these settings good?.... Btw what nr i should put to boost?
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Looking good to me
Smooth or not? Maybe post a screenie of cpuspy or something to see what you're running at
See here for more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19846297&postcount=2
Are you finding any slowdown and major battery drainage where android os keeps the device awake?
markj338 said:
Looking good to me
Smooth or not? Maybe post a screenie of cpuspy or something to see what you're running at
See here for more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19846297&postcount=2
Are you finding any slowdown and major battery drainage where android os keeps the device awake?
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It feels really smooth right now.. i cant tell for battery because i flashed patcha kernel right now... Lets see how good my battery is after few days of using... Thanks for link i read it later... Dont have that time right now... And here is pic ... If u mean this offcourse..
or u can suggest me better kernel tuning app...
janarp said:
It feels really smooth right now.. i cant tell for battery because i flashed patcha kernel right now... Lets see how good my battery is after few days of using... Thanks for link i read it later... Dont have that time right now... And here is pic ... If u mean this offcourse..
or u can suggest me better kernel tuning app...
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Not that one
The screen that shows how long you've been at what freq
probably i flash new Beast Mode MOD kernel if it release today... it looks more interesting..=)
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Not that one
The screen that shows how long you've been at what freq
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with this kernel tuner app i cant see that i guess..=)
hey all i m using advenced-sense-kernel-r1
i would like to set governors like markj338 posted.
"Using tricksterMOD, you can see that governors like interactive and ondemand have their own settings. I have been playing around with these settings, and I am still not finished with what I like yet. However you can use this post as a guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=3113
With Interactive, you can set your go_highspeed_load to 806 or 768MHz. I have set my min to be 245MHz, max 1200MHz but highspeed load is 806MHz. This results in a kind of even split between the times that 245, 806 and 1200MHz are used. With ondemand or another governor, it generally spikes up to 1200MHz (your max freq) a lot, rather than scaling between the lower freqs. This results in more battery usage because you are staying at a higher freq for longer than needed. Performance is generally the same with interactive and ondemand if configured right.
What do these mean? Basically, with my device now when I touch the screen, it will ramp up to 806MHz. If the process is more than just moving something on the screen and more processing power is needed, it will automatically go to 1200MHz, and when its done and I am still touching the screen, it will go back down to 806MHz. When all I am doing is browsing xda or something, when I scroll it ramps up to 806MHz and when I leave it to read something, it will go down to 245MHz. Then obviously when its sleeping it goes into deep sleep (hopefully)"
is there an easy way
right now i have these cpu stats and these oc settings
do i have to remove oc deamon and cpu stats to use tricksterMOD
mkdsa said:
hey all i m using advenced-sense-kernel-r1
i would like to set governors like markj338 posted.
"Using tricksterMOD, you can see that governors like interactive and ondemand have their own settings. I have been playing around with these settings, and I am still not finished with what I like yet. However you can use this post as a guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=3113
With Interactive, you can set your go_highspeed_load to 806 or 768MHz. I have set my min to be 245MHz, max 1200MHz but highspeed load is 806MHz. This results in a kind of even split between the times that 245, 806 and 1200MHz are used. With ondemand or another governor, it generally spikes up to 1200MHz (your max freq) a lot, rather than scaling between the lower freqs. This results in more battery usage because you are staying at a higher freq for longer than needed. Performance is generally the same with interactive and ondemand if configured right.
What do these mean? Basically, with my device now when I touch the screen, it will ramp up to 806MHz. If the process is more than just moving something on the screen and more processing power is needed, it will automatically go to 1200MHz, and when its done and I am still touching the screen, it will go back down to 806MHz. When all I am doing is browsing xda or something, when I scroll it ramps up to 806MHz and when I leave it to read something, it will go down to 245MHz. Then obviously when its sleeping it goes into deep sleep (hopefully)"
is there an easy way
right now i have these cpu stats and these oc settings
do i have to remove oc deamon and cpu stats to use tricksterMOD
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You can't edit the governor settings with the daemon controller app. That's why we use the trickster mod app to edit things
By governor settings I don't mean switching governors, I mean the actual settings of it.
That stuff should disable itself but its best to remove them to avoid conflicts
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
My results on ViperIncS with z13boot.img, redux_0.8 kernel, daemon controller, 3G always On, 7 hours of sleepmode (0.8%/hour), sync ON, loged on on every account on my phone but with disabled updates for accounts.. only IM+pro is working all the time inpush mode.
hey markj338 i m new to this,so if i understand i should remove oc deamon and cpu stats but can u walk me trough setup trickstermode
removed oc deamon and cpu stats and installed trickster i have these screenshots
mkdsa said:
hey markj338 i m new to this,so if i understand i should remove oc deamon and cpu stats but can u walk me trough setup trikstermode
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Delete them
Download an app from play store called trickster MOD kernel settings or something
Download busybox installer by stericsson
Install busybox using the app
open trickster, then you can set whatever you like.
screnshoots
ok removed oc deamon and cpu stats
installed busybox and Trikster got these settings..what should go_highspeed_load be now is 99...noticed when i restart dhd governor goes back to ondemand
tnx man
Hello, I'm using Titan Stock ROM and it was working quite OK, but I noticed that with high CPU usage during longer periods of time (Like when you are calling on Skype with both webcams on) after like 5 minutes (depending on ambient temperature) the CPU throtling kicks in and you can barely end the call because the whole GUI of Android gets completely unresponsive.
Quick questions:
- What is the maximum "safe temperature" for the CPU to not break? 60ºC is way too less.. as it gets easily to that temperatures.
Now in hope of getting this a bit fixed I recently installed the "Stellar Kernel". I set the CPU settings as recomended on its kernel page (Undervolted to Min Freq. 98MHz and Max Freq. to 1190MHz). Now its just a nightmare. It overheats even quicker.. and when it throttles you can just pray to do anything.. (I changed finally to Min Freq to 385MHz but that doesn't helps much).
And on the other hand thanks to the underclocking the phone doesn't wants to wake up during minutes.. which is quite unpractical when somebody is calling you.. you can hear the phone ringing but you cannot accept the call because the phone doesn't want's to wake up. But that got somehow fixed putting it back to the Min Freq. +300Mhz.
Just want to know if somebody knows about some magic setting which allows the phone to function properly during longer time.. as far as I'm aware 1190MHz is the original maximum Freq. of this phone so no overclicking is done here. So it looks that the only way to have it working somehow decently is to underclock the maximum frequency and leave the minimum frequency high enough to work properly. I don't really care about battery anymore, as I just need the phone to be functional, and as it is now it's just not. Any advices? Thanks for any reply.
You probably have a hardware problem
rhp07 said:
Hello, I'm using Titan Stock ROM and it was working quite OK, but I noticed that with high CPU usage during longer periods of time (Like when you are calling on Skype with both webcams on) after like 5 minutes (depending on ambient temperature) the CPU throtling kicks in and you can barely end the call because the whole GUI of Android gets completely unresponsive.
Quick questions:
- What is the maximum "safe temperature" for the CPU to not break? 60ºC is way too less.. as it gets easily to that temperatures.
Now in hope of getting this a bit fixed I recently installed the "Stellar Kernel". I set the CPU settings as recomended on its kernel page (Undervolted to Min Freq. 98MHz and Max Freq. to 1190MHz). Now its just a nightmare. It overheats even quicker.. and when it throttles you can just pray to do anything.. (I changed finally to Min Freq to 385MHz but that doesn't helps much).
And on the other hand thanks to the underclocking the phone doesn't wants to wake up during minutes.. which is quite unpractical when somebody is calling you.. you can hear the phone ringing but you cannot accept the call because the phone doesn't want's to wake up. But that got somehow fixed putting it back to the Min Freq. +300Mhz.
Just want to know if somebody knows about some magic setting which allows the phone to function properly during longer time.. as far as I'm aware 1190MHz is the original maximum Freq. of this phone so no overclicking is done here. So it looks that the only way to have it working somehow decently is to underclock the maximum frequency and leave the minimum frequency high enough to work properly. I don't really care about battery anymore, as I just need the phone to be functional, and as it is now it's just not. Any advices? Thanks for any reply.
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acquire kernels and other que rooms have different governors Study on them and the Best That was enough pro you and your needs .
I think this will help you , give will take this need to manually change the clock all, the governor will operate according to its governor preferably .
Read
http://androidforums.com/threads/android-cpu-governors-explained.513426/
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Thanks if helped :highfive: