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Isn' t this a Dev section in a Dev forum ?

Well yea nugh said .

Yup. It would appear that there are either a) no dev's in this section of the forum, or b) everyone is lazy and just wants to wait for someone else to do everything for them. lmao.

hey there glad to see one sharing my opinion , at least there should be a mod moving all the really useless stuff from here to the other section .. oh wait a minute thatbe 99% of the threads in here

with u buddy gunna request a Dev so much work is to be done.milestone/droid is an awesome peice of hardware infact it beats most of the new phones arm chip cmon where the Devs @ ?

To be fair, it is quite silly that Milestone & Droid have a joint General section. A lot of questions have answers specific to one or the other. So all my Milestone specific qs go here since it is the only Milestone-only subforum.

Christ almighty, what's the point of 'requesting' devs to do anything with this device when we already know it's not possible to do anything with it? What, you think just because they created a sub-forum for the Milestone on XDA suddenly everything would come up roses?

Unimaginative said:
Christ almighty, what's the point of 'requesting' devs to do anything with this device when we already know it's not possible to do anything with it? What, you think just because they created a sub-forum for the Milestone on XDA suddenly everything would come up roses?
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well if no one tries how will we make progress?there must be a way to bypass bootloader we must try.if devs never tried then none of us would ever have root so stop with the dumb remarks

Unimaginative said:
Christ almighty, what's the point of 'requesting' devs to do anything with this device when we already know it's not possible to do anything with it? What, you think just because they created a sub-forum for the Milestone on XDA suddenly everything would come up roses?
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the point of this thread is not to request dev to do soemthing , witch obviously they are busy doing/trying otherwise this section wouldnt exist ...
the point of this thread was merely an attempt at keeping this section clean of 'froyo is coming in july ' or how do I rooot on 2.1 type of questions you get the drift ...

DAGr8 said:
the point of this thread is not to request dev to do soemthing , witch obviously they are busy doing/trying otherwise this section wouldnt exist ...
the point of this thread was merely an attempt at keeping this section clean of 'froyo is coming in july ' or how do I rooot on 2.1 type of questions you get the drift ...
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In which case there needs to be a distinct Motorola Milestone General forum. I don't want to ask that question in "Droid and Milestone General" and get responses from Droid users. Until then, this is the go-to place for Milestone-only questions.

cmstlist said:
In which case there needs to be a distinct Motorola Milestone General forum. I don't want to ask that question in "Droid and Milestone General" and get responses from Droid users. Until then, this is the go-to place for Milestone-only questions.
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Well yea exactly my point , not to start the argument with you about it , obviously this will become something else then a Dev section and it will 'soon-become' the not go-to for the Dev because it will be a mess .
I know for my part they are forums I go daily for news , and eventho this was one of them this current setion will soon become one to avoid.

Will Galaxy S ROM's work on the other phones in the S line?

Aka vibrant, captive, vz, and sprint ones?
Other than the Radio drivers for (GSM, CDMA, whatever) i would think it would be akin to the G1 and the mytouch.
Similar hardware, multi phone ROM's.
Anyone have an idea?

why are you posting the same question again?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728742&highlight=rom+work
just bump up the old one, if you feel you have not gotten the right answer

AllGamer said:
why are you posting the same question again?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728742&highlight=rom+work
just bump up the old one, if you feel you have not gotten the right answer
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Because I have not gotten an answer in that section.
Because there is no Q & A section like there is an the G1 section.
Because after a little thought, this is indeed a question related to development.
Because searching has gotten me no where.
This section of the forum is active.

[Q] Who would like to see a CDMA ONLY htc one forum?

I am curious who would like to see a US ONLY CDMA ONLY htc one forum or perhaps sub-forum? I believe it would help organize and separate the US device from the International ones for clarity and ease of forum use.

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I am curious who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum or perhaps sub-forum? I believe it would help organize and separate the US device from the International ones for clarity and ease of forum use.
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+1 I have to agree.
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I am curious who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum or perhaps sub-forum? I believe it would help organize and separate the US device from the International ones for clarity and ease of forum use.
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Yes definitely. There will be bootloader issues on American devices
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I am curious who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum or perhaps sub-forum? I believe it would help organize and separate the US device from the International ones for clarity and ease of forum use.
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I agree 100 % , separation is needed.
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Re: [Q] Who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum?
+10000000000
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Yes. I'm a Limey and I'm tired of all you Yanks ... Yanking up the joint

[Q] Who would like to see a US ONLY htc one forum?
I would also agree if the differences are that much of a problem. Ill be getting one from AT&T as a upgrade and if there is significant differences between unlocking and other types of things I don't want to be confused and asking if something works on US version of phone or not.
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Yes. I'm a Limey and I'm tired of all you Yanks ... Yanking up the joint
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Thanks for your feedback. It's going to get really cluttered in this forum if they don't seperate stuff as the US launch is imminent.

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They wouldn't separate the international and us one x+ even tho the ROMs were incompatible so I doubt this one will be separated
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There are loads of other phones that don't have separate forums to distinguish different regions and frequencies....don't recall it being a problem before. ROM developers sorted things out just fine. If this is just because people don't want to have to sort through the different international release dates then that is a bit short sited thinking no?

Rumball said:
There are loads of other phones that don't have separate forums to distinguish different regions and frequencies....don't recall it being a problem before. ROM developers sorted things out just fine. If this is just because people don't want to have to sort through the different international release dates then that is a bit short sited thinking no?
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We had issues in the past in the evo 3d forums where the cdma roms/themes/mods did not work on the gsm version and vice versa. I think it would at least be good to have seperate subforums for US/Carriers so that people dont flash gsm radios by mistake on their cdma versions and brick their phones. If the international version is the same as US T-Mobile and ATT then that can be one subforum with the other being for Verizon (if verizon gets its) and Sprint. So maybe a GSM vs CDMA subforums could work.

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We had issues in the past in the evo 3d forums where the cdma roms/themes/mods did not work on the gsm version and vice versa. I think it would at least be good to have seperate subforums for US/Carriers so that people dont flash gsm radios by mistake on their cdma versions and brick their phones. If the international version is the same as US T-Mobile and ATT then that can be one subforum with the other being for Verizon (if verizon gets its) and Sprint. So maybe a GSM vs CDMA subforums could work.
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Excellent point.

Where do you have the information from that there will be a CDMA version of this phone? Can you link one, please?

Sprint is cdma only, so is Verizon of they get one.
http://www.sprint.com/landings/htco...3:HTC:Tablet&adSelectData=1:Module_HTC_022213
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I don't know when its coming out. I've read next week or may something... link to an article http://goo.gl/2lToZ
I'd suggest waiting till more information about the phone is available. If it is a redesign like the butterfly and DNA then a separate form. Else, i'd vote for a sub forum. Whatever makes most people happy.

I don't care how you do it but it needs to be done, I'm tired of wading through the international topics/discussion just to find the few US relevant info.

Yeah, should definitely happen.
If necessary, you can bring up the forums that have been split to the site managers, like the 2 s3 forums for the different carriers as well as the international s3 being separated from the carrier specific one
You could tell them that its to prevent bricks from flashing roms, which depending on how its set up will most likely be an issue anyway
Basically i agree, +1 on this

I'm all for a subforum! Maybe not necessarily a separate forum, since I think the majority of "discussion" will be pretty unified, as the device itself is similar when not focusing on radios in specific.
Something like this will probably happen in the future. I've seen it for the majority of other devices, at least.

jotha said:
Where do you have the information from that there will be a CDMA version of this phone? Can you link one, please?
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Right on Sprint's website.
Sprint is a US carrier that ONLY operates on CDMA. Like the EVO 3D, it was EXTREMELY nice to have GSM & CDMA forums separate as flashing stuff on the wrong hardware could brick it in a second.

While having a separate CDMA section might be ok (depending on if the roms are in fact incompatible), I think the AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus & international variants should share the same section.

HTC One ROMs without GAPPS

I'm just thinking of getting such a HTC One, but I'm used to run CM-based ROMs without GAPPS on my older phones. Looking through this forum I see a lot of ROMs, but they all seem to be based on Stock or Google Play Edition ROMs which already include GAPPS?
Anyone here running his HTC One without GAPPS?
Any recommended ROMs with GAPPS as optional package?

while this is not a development thread you are looking on the wrong section you need to look here for what you want

JEANRIVERA said:
while this is not a development thread you are looking on the wrong section you need to look here for what you want
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Damned, that's what I feared, I had posted this in One Android Development, but a moderator has moved it here.
This is clearly a development related question, so I doubt I will get any useful answers here in One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting.

Master One said:
Damned, that's what I feared, I had posted this in One Android Development, but a moderator has moved it here.
This is clearly a development related question, so I doubt I will get any useful answers here in One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting.
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you should have checked the link @JEANRIVERA posted for you instead of complaining about being moved your answer is in the link you were given already

clsA said:
you should have checked the link @JEANRIVERA posted for you instead of complaining about being moved your answer is in the link you were given already
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Of course you are right, my apologies, I indeed completely overlooked that One Original Android Development is the section I was looking for, must have been confused by the word "Original", making me think it was about ROMs based on Stock.
Looks like CM 10.2 is the way to go, great stuff going on for that phone.

Master One said:
Of course you are right, my apologies, I indeed completely overlooked that One Original Android Development is the section I was looking for, must have been confused by the word "Original", making me think it was about ROMs based on Stock.
Looks like CM 10.2 is the way to go, great stuff going on for that phone.
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The One is a Fantastic device with a ton of development going on .. feel free to jump aboard
At this point I would steer clear of a CDMA version though

clsA said:
The One is a Fantastic device with a ton of development going on .. feel free to jump aboard
At this point I would steer clear of a CDMA version though
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That shouldn't be a problem as I am in Europe here. Isn't CDMA a U.S. only thing?
I'm after one to three phones for me any my family, it's either the LG Optimum 4X HD or HTC One, which we get for free from our mobile phone provider depending on the plan we choose. Going with the LG would mean 1/3 the monthly price but the HTC One is just too tempting, after all it should last the next two years.

L720T sub forum petition

I am requesting an official Sub-Forum for the Sprint Galaxy S4 Tri-Band.
While most roms work from the original variant, None of them support the radio correctly. As an example, using any kernel on stock TW will kill the radio, and users have to search and wade through the SPH-L720 forums to find info/files for our device.
A sub forum with the requirement of supporting the Tri-band version would be helpful to the Sprint S4 community, as it would stop much of the confusion of using the same forum, when it is not the same device. I also believe it would help gather more attention for what is now the standard sprint S4.
P.S. I have posted this in the appropriate thread, I just want to see how much of you want the same thing.

in on this

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I am requesting an official Sub-Forum for the Sprint Galaxy S4 Tri-Band.
While most roms work from the original variant, None of them support the radio correctly. As an example, using any kernel on stock TW will kill the radio, and users have to search and wade through the SPH-L720 forums to find info/files for our device.
A sub forum with the requirement of supporting the Tri-band version would be helpful to the Sprint S4 community, as it would stop much of the confusion of using the same forum, when it is not the same device. I also believe it would help gather more attention for what is now the standard sprint S4.
P.S. I have posted this in the appropriate thread, I just want to see how much of you want the same thing.
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Absolutely!
We have needed this for quite some time now... Just having a thread or a few is not enough, come on XDA Administration, don't you think it has been long overdue?

I would like a sub forum for it.

Agreed, I realize it is a pain to setup for a small(?) Amount of users, but it would be much more convenient to locate information on my phone.

Sorry guys. This will not happen. What needs to be done is ROM developers need to properly label in their titles or OPs whether the tri-band is properly supported. As stated the same ROMs flash and do not cause bricks so there is no danger therefore no needed extra forum.

It's not just ROMS, it's also T specific tweaks.
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It's not just ROMS, it's also T specific tweaks.
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Which can be made into a flashable zip....point is, there is no danger to either version. This is a development site and people should understand what they are flashing on their phone. As mentioned...ask that developers properly label their OP or thread title whether or not tri-band is supported.

KennyG123 said:
Which can be made into a flashable zip....point is, there is no danger to either version. This is a development site and people should understand what they are flashing on their phone. As mentioned...ask that developers properly label their OP or thread title whether or not tri-band is supported.
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No disrespect to you, but I think you are missing the point as to why have a sub forum with-in this forum. There are so many questions throughout this forum now that are mixed in with other threads and digging through to find the information is a challenge for anyone new. A lot of the questions for the T version become un-answered. If there were a place where all the threads could be in one place that would be great! Besides it would not be hard for it to be added. The only reason I could think of is if no one wanted to mod the section to keep people in check.

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No disrespect to you, but I think you are missing the point as to why have a sub forum with-in this forum. There are so many questions throughout this forum now that are mixed in with other threads and digging through to find the information is a challenge for anyone new. A lot of the questions for the T version become un-answered. If there were a place where all the threads could be in one place that would be great! Besides it would not be hard for it to be added. The only reason I could think of is if no one wanted to mod the section to keep people in check.
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Moderation is not an issue at all. It would just be included in the US Samsung team of 48 existing devices. I think the point is being missed that there is not enough differences in hardware to warrant it as 99% of the work is compatible and the only issues will be not taking full advantage of the tri-band spectrum. Look at the Galaxy Nexus forum. There is an international device and a Sprint CDMA device sharing the same forum just fine. The only difference is that the international ROMs WILL brick the Sprint device so another development subforum was added. In this case all you would need to do is flash a compatible ROM. Add to that this is not the place to ask for more device forums. It is here. But as I said, I can guarantee it will be denied based on the reasons I already stated.
The only T specific questions that I would expect to see are issues with tri-band connectivity (welcome to Sprint) and what ROMs are T-friendly. If the ROM threads are properly titled then there would be no need for the last question.

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Moderation is not an issue at all. It would just be included in the US Samsung team of 48 existing devices. I think the point is being missed that there is not enough differences in hardware to warrant it as 99% of the work is compatible and the only issues will be not taking full advantage of the tri-band spectrum. Look at the Galaxy Nexus forum. There is an international device and a Sprint CDMA device sharing the same forum just fine. The only difference is that the international ROMs WILL brick the Sprint device so another development subforum was added. In this case all you would need to do is flash a compatible ROM. Add to that this is not the place to ask for more device forums. It is here. But as I said, I can guarantee it will be denied based on the reasons I already stated.
The only T specific questions that I would expect to see are issues with tri-band connectivity (welcome to Sprint) and what ROMs are T-friendly. If the ROM threads are properly titled then there would be no need for the last question.
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The only problem with that theory is that MOST GS4 owners have the earlier version. So they can't add Tri Band support to their rom.
This sub forum would be a place where you KNOW everything has Tri Band.
It would actually push developers to support Tri Band because currently nobody does.
My main point being is that it wouldn't hurt anyone. It would only help those of us that have the upgraded model.
Also TW Kernels break the radio on stock. JS

zeruth said:
The only problem with that theory is that MOST GS4 owners have the earlier version. So they can't add Tri Band support to their rom.
This sub forum would be a place where you KNOW everything has Tri Band.
It would actually push developers to support Tri Band because currently nobody does.
My main point being is that it wouldn't hurt anyone. It would only help those of us that have the upgraded model.
Also TW Kernels break the radio on stock. JS
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I gave you the link to where you can post your request. My point is that devices with similar hardware do not get their own forum. It does not get done unless there is potential for damage to the other device...there isn't. You can flash any ROM on either device. If you realize you are one of the few with a tri-band phone and your LTE isn't working you would simply flash a ROM that does support it. Unless you can show that there is a potential for damage then you will have to read the OP of the ROMs you are choosing to flash on your $700 device..sounds like something everyone should be doing.

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I gave you the link to where you can post your request. My point is that devices with similar hardware do not get their own forum. It does not get done unless there is potential for damage to the other device...there isn't. You can flash any ROM on either device. If you realize you are one of the few with a tri-band phone and your LTE isn't working you would simply flash a ROM that does support it. Unless you can show that there is a potential for damage then you will have to read the OP of the ROMs you are choosing to flash on your $700 device..sounds like something everyone should be doing.
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Already posted in the thread for forum requests. Before I made this thread actually.
This is to spread awareness that it should be done, and by the poll i think most people agree.
It's like Cyanogenmod. you don't have an official build until EVERY hardware feature is supported.
I really don't get why anyone would have anything against this change. it doesn't hurt the website, it doesn't hurt the regular L720 forum.
It benefits the community. which i'm pretty sure is what this website is about.

zeruth said:
Already posted in the thread for forum requests. Before I made this thread actually.
This is to spread awareness that it should be done, and by the poll i think most people agree.
It's like Cyanogenmod. you don't have an official build until EVERY hardware feature is supported.
I really don't get why anyone would have anything against this change. it doesn't hurt the website, it doesn't hurt the regular L720 forum.
It benefits the community. which i'm pretty sure is what this website is about.
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Actually this is a development site created by developers for developers. It is not a support site. As for your poll of 13 votes, it is kind of biased as only people with that device are voting...not much difference in asking a teenager "Do you want your own room." I hardly think 13 people are going to sway admin to start a new precedent. You don't seem to understand that there are MANY devices with more than one release of a hardware variant. As it is now members go to the wrong S4 forum. Look at the big picture for once..imagine a site with another 1000 forums due to slight hardware vbariances...only requiring one thing..for the member to read. If you go to the Sprint HTC M8 forums there is 2 devices there...the original M8 release and the Harman-Kardon device. If you flash ROMs without the H-K files or firmware you will lose the Harman-Kardon features...that does not justify making their own forum...and guarantee you will get 13 votes if you had a similar poll there. This is not about fighting you on one small community of devices, this is about a site precedent and not spoon feeding members for every little thing. It is expected that members do the research before flashing anything...if they do not know to check for the proper support in a ROM then they should not be flashing ROMs. They should stay on stock and get the full support the manufacturer has provided.
The best thing that someone can do for development and the community is to make a thread in General of all the ROMs that support the T device. Keep it maintained with any updates and new work. THAT is how you help the community. I see one has been created...excellent! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660866
I appreciate your passion for this request but you really are not seeing beyond your own needs here. You have to look at the big picture and how this site is set up and run....not that we are failing to grant you this "small" request. And did you not think that this would mean developers would have to support 2 threads in 2 forums rather than one thread in one forum and have a flashable zip to make it T compatible. Developers time is valuable as they do this for free, as a hobby and with great cost to their personal and family time. Most do not want to create and support an additional thread and ROM for such a minor variance. If there is ever a firmware upgrade that causes bricks between these variants I am sure Admin will look at this request more closely.

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Actually this is a development site created by developers for developers. It is not a support site. As for your poll of 13 votes, it is kind of biased as only people with that device are voting...not much difference in asking a teenager "Do you want your own room." I hardly think 13 people are going to sway admin to start a new precedent. You don't seem to understand that there are MANY devices with more than one release of a hardware variant. As it is now members go to the wrong S4 forum. Look at the big picture for once..imagine a site with another 1000 forums due to slight hardware vbariances...only requiring one thing..for the member to read. If you go to the Sprint HTC M8 forums there is 2 devices there...the original M8 release and the Harman-Kardon device. If you flash ROMs without the H-K files or firmware you will lose the Harman-Kardon features...that does not justify making their own forum...and guarantee you will get 13 votes if you had a similar poll there. This is not about fighting you on one small community of devices, this is about a site precedent and not spoon feeding members for every little thing. It is expected that members do the research before flashing anything...if they do not know to check for the proper support in a ROM then they should not be flashing ROMs. They should stay on stock and get the full support the manufacturer has provided.
The best thing that someone can do for development and the community is to make a thread in General of all the ROMs that support the T device. Keep it maintained with any updates and new work. THAT is how you help the community. I see one has been created...excellent! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660866
I appreciate your passion for this request but you really are not seeing beyond your own needs here. You have to look at the big picture and how this site is set up and run....not that we are failing to grant you this "small" request. And did you not think that this would mean developers would have to support 2 threads in 2 forums rather than one thread in one forum and have a flashable zip to make it T compatible. Developers time is valuable as they do this for free, as a hobby and with great cost to their personal and family time. Most do not want to create and support an additional thread and ROM for such a minor variance. If there is ever a firmware upgrade that causes bricks between these variants I am sure Admin will look at this request more closely.
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I get it, I really do, but a sub-forum really wouldn't get in the way of anything. i'm not really asking for a whole new forum. That thread just says what works, none of them support the radio itself. But is a sub forum where we can take care of each other easier really spoon feeding?
Like under the theme and apps forum have our 720T specific forum.

zeruth said:
I get it, I really do, but a sub-forum really wouldn't get in the way of anything. i'm not really asking for a whole new forum. That thread just says what works, none of them support the radio itself. But is a sub forum where we can take care of each other easier really spoon feeding?
Like under the theme and apps forum have our 720T specific forum.
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I really don't think you do. If you did, then you would realize that making a seperate subforum for people who cannot be bothered to read an OP IS spoon-feeding. If there is no damage to the phone then simply properly labeling the thread title resolves this. Also as mentioned, a proper flashable zip with radio and support files will also make all ROMs compatible.

After lurking for years, I will make my first post in support of this idea.

I am in favor of this I have an 720 and a 720t would make it a little easier.
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I really get what Kenny is saying .... but it isn't just the roms. Many of the xposed modules do not work for example. And I am not sure whether its being 4.4.2 or 720T. I can't get tethering to work without paying for an app (which I did). There is a 66 page thread about 720T related stuff because its just different enough to be a pia. At the very least we should all maybe try to label every 720t post with [720T] so that its easily searchable. Still means we have to do a search every time, but would be a little better in the meantime. Also, I had no idea there was such a thing as a 720T until I got this one as an insurance replacement. Perhaps this thread will at least let others in the forums know that such a thing exists and encourage everyone to specify 720 vs 720T when they are making posts so as to avoid confusion.

Yes, absolutely. I was thinking the same exact thing. This is a unique device that needs a sub forum.
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