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what will make the Kaiser better ?!

I know the Kaiser is not out yet, and I know for fact that I will be one of the first buyers, because the Kaiser simply rocks
But lets face it! what do you guys think is missing in the Kaiser (tytn II), and makes you wish to have in the upcoming successor (tytn III maybe)
for me, this is my wish list:
1- SiRFIII not A-GPS (SiRFIII seems more sensitive, A-GPS takes too much time for initial fix based on my experience with the Trinity)
2- A built-in flash for the camera for night shots (5 MP would be nice also)
3- VGA screen (this will soon become a standard in all devices i think)
4- Blending the screen edges or level with the device body in a manner similar to the HTC touch and enabling the Touch-Cube
5- FM Tuner
hmmmmmmm not so important also but would be nice to have a 3.5mm or 2.5mm jack for stereo headphones and not being restricted to the mini-usb.....

For me, I would like to see the following:
1. VGA output via USB (for connecting to a data projector)
2. Support mobile TV standard like DVB-H
3. A flash light like that in Hermes, so that I can use it as a torch at night.

well I already said im getting one to replace my ill fated 8125. But here is a short list I would have loved to see this phone have but sizewise no way it would of fit in.
Fm radio
Video out
VGA screen
sterio speakers
A flash
standard headphone jack
Built in HD of 4+ gb (apple has more then proven it can be done so do it)
GPU of the GeForce flavor
A cdma chip to match its GMS set up make it a true world phone
Higher res cam 3.0 is nice but still fairly weak
Toss those into the bad boy and well yea it would be just kick ass.

+4gb HD
+1GB Ram
VGA
TV tuner
FM tuner
+1ghz processor
multitouch screen
very bright xeon flash.
IR port. (for using as a remote for my TV)
+6mp camera (even tho it already has a good camera)
Louder, clearer, stereo speakers with bass.

I only want a VGA screen!!

Why have a 4G HD when you can have a 4G or more micro SD card. MicroSD consumes less power and easy to move around and replace. With a HD, you are stuck with what it is. No upgradability.

And for the camera, it is the marketing people who want us to believe more pixels equate better photos. What we really need is a good quality lens and CMOS sensor. That is what makes good photo. My Canon Powershot S30 (3 mega pixels) produces much better photos to the many 6 or more M pixels photos from other cameras.

vga screen and tv out. nothing else..

bchau said:
And for the camera, it is the marketing people who want us to believe more pixels equate better photos. What we really need is a good quality lens and CMOS sensor. That is what makes good photo. My Canon Powershot S30 (3 mega pixels) produces much better photos to the many 6 or more M pixels photos from other cameras.
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I agree ... big time agree
Phone manufacturers are fooling all of u with the pixel game... they dont talk much about sensor and lense because they know what the result will show.... not to mention the zoom .... one excuse in the past that cell phones have no optical zooms because it will make the phone bulky ... well this is maybe true in the past ... but one look at sony's new cybershots DSC-t100 for example will tell you that everthing now is changed

My wish list would be:-
FM Radio
3.5mm audio jack
VGA toughened touch Screen which is also flush to make it easy to clean
Camera flash which doubles as torch
Infrared (I know it's a bit obsolete but I currently use IR on Vario 2 (hermes) as my TV and Sky remote )
Don't want much do I

Oh yea Nicky flush screen is a good one.
The Hermes suffers from screen misalignment mainly because of the dusts getting into the sides!
But the Kaiser should have a 3.5mm audio jack via an adaptor cable like the Hermes.

my dream is a kaiser exactly like it is now.....
but with a weight of 120 max 130 grams

1. FM Tuner
2. 3.5mm "standard" audio-out port
3. VGA Screen
4. Few mms thinner and narrower!

my wish list for the Kaiser II
VGA screen
Multi touch screen ala Iphone
3.5mm head phone socket
USB host
IR which will operate TV etc accross a room
Battery life of a Nokia 6310
Wake from standby on receipt of SMS, MMS, Email, IM
Webcam functionality
Network share folder
Camera flash
Reliable alarm
Decent carrier supplied ROM.
Twin sim slots
Ability to multitask eg. TomTom, MediaPlayer, IM and phone call simultaneously.
Oh and I want it to weigh next to nothing, be droppable without scratching and to survive being dropped in water.

wizzzard said:
my wish list for the Kaiser II
VGA screen
Multi touch screen ala Iphone
3.5mm head phone socket
USB host
IR which will operate TV etc accross a room
Battery life of a Nokia 6310
Wake from standby on receipt of SMS, MMS, Email, IM
Webcam functionality
Network share folder
Camera flash
Reliable alarm
Decent carrier supplied ROM.
Twin sim slots
Ability to multitask eg. TomTom, MediaPlayer, IM and phone call simultaneously.
Oh and I want it to weigh next to nothing, be droppable without scratching and to survive being dropped in water.
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lol The water one is a good one, I have lost two phones now by accidentally dropping them in water .. whoops
Sounds like you might be a little unlucky with your current phone though because my Vario 2 (Hermes) already has a reliable alarm (albeit with 3rd party software) and has no problem waking for SMS, IM etc... it isn't too bad on the multi-tasking front either .. ie. media player and Tomtom running simultaneously and streaming all via A2DP to my headset .. didn't think that was too bad going although an incoming call can throw a spanner in the works sometimes

bchau said:
And for the camera, it is the marketing people who want us to believe more pixels equate better photos. What we really need is a good quality lens and CMOS sensor. That is what makes good photo. My Canon Powershot S30 (3 mega pixels) produces much better photos to the many 6 or more M pixels photos from other cameras.
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well let me rephrase what i ment.
6mo Cmos Camera. the same quality as the kaiser but higher resolution.
and for the HD, yes i thought about that, but ROM is much faster than a storage card usually. so actually i'd like 1-4gb of Rom.

I only want
* decent quality finish (it should not peel off in two weeks)
* for christ's shake, ANTI REFLECTIVE SCREEN
the rest is okay.

Many have asked for 3.5mm audio plug for Kaiser for use with headphones. I think I have read somewhere that audio coming out from the USB port would be much cleaner than the 3.5 mm analog audio port. Reason is the USB port is digital so there is no need for the digital to analog conversion. Hence the USB headphones are in general preferred over the analog headphone if audio quality if a prime consideration.

rupps said:
* for christ's shake, ANTI REFLECTIVE SCREEN
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I didn't think an anti-reflective coating was possible for a transflective screen??

bchau said:
Many have asked for 3.5mm audio plug for Kaiser for use with headphones. I think I have read somewhere that audio coming out from the USB port would be much cleaner than the 3.5 mm analog audio port. Reason is the USB port is digital so there is no need for the digital to analog conversion. Hence the USB headphones are in general preferred over the analog headphone if audio quality if a prime consideration.
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yes, it is. i had heard an dread the same. which is why i want the usb audio port. i remember the 2.5 and 3.5mm slots would break or get stuck, but usb would not do that. plus it would be much faster, no need to wait for it to switch profiles and lag your phone.

Video playback on S730

Hi!
I've been reading alot on this forum and im very intersted in the S730, and by reading your posts here the majority seems to think the s730 is a great phone, but noone has said anything considering the video-driver issue in tytnII, whether its a problem in the s730 too?, So how is the video playbak in s730, is it possible to watch a 320x240 movie or TV-series, because i always downsize my shows to 320x240 will i not have any problems?, i currently have an Dell axim x30 which i often use to listen to music or watch movies and it has a 624Mhz processor which gives me smooth video playback, and would hate myself if i bought the s730 and the video playback would be lagging in 320x240...
And also, how is the call quality? is it clear and is the sim-card automatically set up?
thanks in advance...
/Johan

Watching 320x240 is no problem. CorePlayer (TCPMP) handles it well, all is smooth, the cpu power is enough up to 30 - 33 FPS (MPEG-4 ASP, 300 - 400 kbit/s).

What program are you using to downsize the videos?
They way I am currently doing it is too slow
However video playback is perfect. Even with the full resolution video's it only studders on the video and my audio is solid. (core player as well)

Thanks for the answers, and im pleased to hear that watching videos on th S730 is smooth. I'll probably go for this phone, and hope that you guys continue finding good ways of maximizing the performance in the phone!
An btw when I downsize my series or movies i often use pocketdivxencoder found here http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/ . But most of the videos i downsize are Family guy and American Dad so im not really sure on how the result of a real movie would be, but i guess if you maximize both the video and audio quality , you would still end up with a reasonable small file with nice quality!
But to my other question, is the call quality good? in other words does it perform well as a phone?, and i read about the memory leak which i hope will get fixed, but will it cause any trouble if i listen to music via the bluetooth A2DP profile when not using any other programs?

Cool, filesize isnt a problem with my 6gb sd card. I'll play with it. My way works but too much hassle.
My old phone was not very good, so I cant speak too much about call quality. I find its very good overall, I had one occation where my connection was bad (kinda remote location with 1 bar signal) and the person on the other end said I was full of static, did clear up though.
Thats the only issue I have had. The earpiece speaker volume could go up a little higher but I have never had problems not being able to understand people.

i used TCPMP with mine, and the 400mhz makes a huge difference
i barely have to convert any video now when i'm watching my shows (usually in 700x200 or something like that)
with steady framerate and quality
if it starts to stutter or slowdown, i just turn the quality a bit lower in the player and it plays back just fine

yeap
Ic watched normal divx's on the phone, so yeah its very good

[Q] HTC One camera sound play back too noise :(

First I send greetings to all the members of the forum xda. The situation is that after a period of use, the HTC one I recently discovered the faulty machine while recording video. I would like to describe as follows:
+ When shooting video, everything is ok but audio playback being shy and very very noise (just like sound waves or when at the music bar, noisy places) and the huge timid though filming is very quiet. This situation is now being bought.
+ When viewing on a laptop it doesnt change. So I think it is the fault of my phone.
+ Using Sound Recoder the normal recording, the sound is not being honest and not noise. Sounds heard are called normal.
+ I have tried to install other video software (FX Camera, Paper Camera, 360 camera ...), restore settings in the camera settings, hard reset in booloader, 4.2.2 rom, stock rom back ... everything from general software but did not fix it.
+ This is my trouble:
youtube.co m/watch?v=h6mdSMLw_pY&feature=youtu.be -<<< please watch it on youtube by remove space between youtube. c om
+ Its ok (sound good)when using google edition 4.3 rom. I just updated newest radio but nothing have changed (4.2.2).
We hope that you have experience and would like to comment: D
Thank you and wish you a good day: D
My english is so poor, please regard to me.

[Q] Sense camera vs. Google Play camera: audio/video concerns

Hello! One of the One's biggest selling points for me was the quality of audio/video it has been shown to capture, even at very loud concerts. I go to concerts whenever I have the time, and only lately decided to try recording some video with the phone. What I got (link below) was just a mess.
However, I'm running the Google Play edition ROM, which nukes the stock Sense camera software in favor of the stock Android 4.3 camera app. I was wondering if anyone could offer some insight. Could I expect the same poor level of audio and video quality with the stock Sense camera? There's no seemingly-soundboard quality audio depth, just tons of clipping (i.e. 4:00 - 4:15). There's no bass, either (bass drum starting at 4:23). Also, the auto-focus is on the fritz the entire time due to low lighting, with no way to lock it in the GPe ROM.
Please ignore the first two minutes or so (just skip to 4:00.) I must've been grazing/covering one of the mics. One thing I will give this phone credit for is its OIS -- I was being bopped around by the crowd for a majority of this video, and it is amazingly still for the most part.
Here's the video link WARNING: POTENTIALLY LOUD SOUND AND LOTS OF STATIC! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrpbCZ8Kirk
Thanks in advance!

ericiidx said:
Hello! One of the One's biggest selling points for me was the quality of audio/video it has been shown to capture, even at very loud concerts. I go to concerts whenever I have the time, and only lately decided to try recording some video with the phone. What I got (link below) was just a mess.
However, I'm running the Google Play edition ROM, which nukes the stock Sense camera software in favor of the stock Android 4.3 camera app. I was wondering if anyone could offer some insight. Could I expect the same poor level of audio and video quality with the stock Sense camera? There's no seemingly-soundboard quality audio depth, just tons of clipping (i.e. 4:00 - 4:15). There's no bass, either (bass drum starting at 4:23). Also, the auto-focus is on the fritz the entire time due to low lighting, with no way to lock it in the GPe ROM.
Please ignore the first two minutes or so (just skip to 4:00.) I must've been grazing/covering one of the mics. One thing I will give this phone credit for is its OIS -- I was being bopped around by the crowd for a majority of this video, and it is amazingly still for the most part.
Here's the video link WARNING: POTENTIALLY LOUD SOUND AND LOTS OF STATIC! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrpbCZ8Kirk
Thanks in advance!
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How's the GPE ROM working out for you? I'm on the stock ROM and no distortion, but looking to switch to the GPE ROM

Problems recording in loud places

Does anybody have this issue when recording a video in say a concert, night club or even your car with loud music on.. the video will playback fine.. however the audio will be really distorted and you can literally hear nothing but fuzz and base.
The Huawei p9 plus has been my first android phone from Apple in the last 4 years, and really like everything about it.. would be a shame if this was an issue that could not be resolved, i had read somewhere online it's due to the huawei having 2 microphones ...
Any help is appreciated

I'm sorry to disappoint you. While my Note 4 made pretty decent video recordings (sound wise) my P9+ is horrible and absolutely useless for recording live music. I haven't found a solution yet other than moving away from the music...about half a mile

My P9plus VIE L09 records audio WONDERFULLY ! It's almost on par with Nokia 808 Pureview, which is fantastic. Audio is recorded undistorted even if you put the smartphone against high levels of sound (close to a loudspeaker for example). I tested and it is really great.

Strange, very strange. I stopped using my P9+ in loud places because of the terrible audio quality. I had my device send in to a Huawei service center. They returned it saying nothing was wrong.
I added a file to demonstrate the distortion in a loud place. It's a zipped mp4 file.

P9plus recording @ over 100 dB
I put the phone at 10 cm in front of one loud (over 100 dB) loudspeaker(Studio monitor JBL LSR 4326) with top microphone to the tweeter and bottom to the woofer, centered in the middle on axis. I could easily go higher in level but already hurt my ears next to the speaker, it was very loud. There is absolutely no distortion. Recorded with stock Huawei's recorder (.mp4 16 bit 48KHz). Sound recorded on camera videos are the same (very clear, detailed and no, no distortion).
Phone stock firmware, VIE L09.

raduverdes said:
I put the phone at 10 cm in front of one loud (over 100 dB) loudspeaker(Studio monitor JBL LSR 4326) with top microphone to the tweeter and bottom to the woofer, centered in the middle on axis. I could easily go higher in level but already hurt my ears next to the speaker, it was very loud. There is absolutely no distortion. Recorded with stock Huawei's recorder (.mp4 16 bit 48KHz). Sound recorded on camera videos are the same (very clear, detailed and no, no distortion).
Phone stock firmware, VIE L09.
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it is like a studio recording )
i will try live record thursday in studio (with my band) and upload here.

Yes, very good mics in P9plus. That song was a compressed mp3 and speakers yelling loud but recording is good and not distorted. You can use your smartphone for interviews for example with very good results. Outdoor it picks up wind but as a trick you can wrap the smartphone in one microfiber cloth and, voila, wind removal (only for audio, not video)

@raduverdes, sound distortion in concerts is very often related to bass levels. Your track contains almost no low-mid and bass, it's mid's an high's and that's probably the reason why it sounds good. In the EW&F track is a lot of bass and combined with the high volume the recordings on my p9+ sound very bad.

@Ce Your (very very short) sample recording is very saturated and distorted. I compared Huawei p9 plus mics with Nokia 808 Pureview (with it's Nokia rich recording technology, supporting sound pressure up to 140 dB according to Nokia) and Huawei keeps up very well against my 808 Pureview, almost as good. Nokia 808 is probably(i'd say, surely) the best audio recorder in the smartphone world so I'm very happy with output quality of Huawei P9 plus. Huawei supports very high levels of pressure without breaking a sweat, similarly to Nokia 808. Recordings are very clean and clear for a mobile phone.
I highly recommend you don't stay in very very very loud places if you want to keep your hearing. Don't listen to music (speakers /headphones) over 80-85 dB for long periods of time. I earn my living with my ears and probably the last thing I want is to go deaf.
You probably don't get better sound recording from a smartphone at the moment, it's way better than iPhone 6s, Samsung S7, LG G5, Xiaomi or whatever flagship smartphone, I listen to lots of audio samples on YouTube before purchasing my P9plus.

Sample recording P9plus @ Grado SR80e & Samsung Tab S 10.5
Here is a sample recording using Grado headphones feed by Samsung tablet (no amp but at max volume) ; stock recorder app, mp4, 128kbps, 48KHz. A little too much mids and highs, I know but you get the image. I think it's very good for a smartphone.
At 1:40 I received a message on my tablet

I made a video test recording at INSANE level (I think over 120 dB) very close to the speaker and yes, it's awful, distorted. I don't want to be in such loud place for sure. At 1-1,5 meters away (~105-110 dB sound level) recording is good, undistorted . So, I'd say Huawei P9plus is wonderful /good in normal to LOUD places and bad/unusable in INSANE, STUPID LOUD places. It's smart enough not recording stupid things.

Hi!
I'm very interested in this thread. I'm just trying to find a successor for my HTC M8, years ago the only android phone that could handle loud sound recordings.
I found this video of Huawei p9 (one of my favorites), and I really impressed about the quality (powerful bass by FunktionOne speakers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hAiQplKXls
BUT, reading your comments I'm not sure if this video is true, especially after watching this video of one of you. It's horrible!!!!!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69942999&postcount=4
Maybe some software update??? If someone can confirm that the quality of the first video it's true, tomorrow I'll buy the P9 :laugh:
Thanks!!!