Discussion - Fastest 2.1 ROM for Milestone - Motorola Droid and Milestone General

Hi guys,
I've flashed CM6.1 ROM (Froyo 2.2) to my Milestone a few weeks ago - and was enjoying it till one day I accidentaly hard reset and noticed that I have also removed the default launcher from ROM. So I had black screen and nothing appears after the phone was booted.
Well I could just have copied a launcher over from the PC, but I decided to restore my Nandroid backup.
To my surprise, the backup was the stock 2.1 Eclair ROM. So I was frustrated a bit to lose Froyo.
But after using Eclair 2.1 for a week or so, I have never enjoyed using the Milestone as much as this. It's fast and responsive, better than when I had Froyo.
I wanted to ask - is it true that Eclair 2.1 IS faster than Froyo, or did I flashed a slow Froyo ROM? In terms of memory management is great too. I can open more apps and keep them running than I can remember with my Froyo. With Froyo, I've encountered like foreground app close, and changing from one app to another will eventually killed the last app and had to load it back.
Or can someone recommend a very fast and good memory management of Froyo ROM for my milestone? Or it's really - Ok let's cut the crap and go straight to the point - Eclair that's leading in this race (and I've won?). Edit : The Eclair won!
I do miss the Flash 10 on Froyo... sigh, if only I can get it on Eclair still.
Thanks.
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Update: Well it's not a true-not-true anymore but it is TRUE that Eclair does run much faster than Froyo or Gingerbread. I'm using Telus 5.2 Eclair and I just can't believe the speed that I'm getting (it's like Milestone on steroid!). See my post on 2nd page. And no I'm not with Telus or related or what, but I highly recommend this ROM to Eclair users out there. This is definitely a keeper! I've also covered about the battery life and tempreture on the post on 2nd page. Have a read, and don't hesitate to flash Telus, you will never regret it. Now I am more hesitate to flash over to Froyo or Gingerbread even more after using it! Hey, I feel like I can outbeat a Tegra even
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Update: First of all I'm renaming this thread from "Milestone 2.1 Eclair faster than 2.2 Froyo" to "Discussion - Fastest 2.1 ROM for Milestone".
I saw some users asking about where this Telus 5.2 Eclair is.. so I'm providing the link here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717377.
No I am not associated with the dev who made that ROM or whatsoever, and I am not duplicating the thread. Merely suggesting the fastest 2.1 ROM available (currently), for those who are not the 'wait and obey' users of Milestone, but to the 'commander' users of this device. Continuous discussions about which is the fastest 2.1 ROMs are still welcomed here, and of course, any ROM comparison discussions with other various versions (eg. 1.6, 2.2, 2.3, 3.0??) should head over here >http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029887

I haven't used Eclair in a long time but I remember how clad i was when I flashed a custom ROM for a first time (some Cm7 nightly) and on my case my milestone felt blazing fast even with bad memory management and I "promised" I never go back to stock eclair and have kept that promise. I'm now running FroyoMod 2.6.1b and this is probably the most stable rom I've ever had and if u haven't tried it then u should because it just might me the rom that ur looking for when it comes to stability and capabilities.
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Hey MakeW00t , sounds interesting. But fast alone isn't enough for me. Good memory management plays a vital role as well. I just hate to see vital apps (eg. navigational software) got killed just because I had to read my SMS or check a few things on the calendar!
Anyway, thanks for your recommendation. Maybe I'll flash FroyoMod 2.6.1b when I feel Eclair is not enough.
I've been through that before "I never go back to stock eclair" But now that I had it back.. I can't see any reason NOT to..

neato4u said:
Hi guys,
But after using Eclair 2.1 for a week or so, I have never enjoyed using the Milestone as much as this. It's fast and responsive, better than when I had Froyo.
Thanks.
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Same here, it is nice to have a PHONE again, and Eclair makes it real... Sad but true... I tried and tested almost all mods available on this forum (including official stock froyo update and Froyo Mod 2.6, which unfortunately also appears to be frustrating and sluggish after only 2-3 days of intensive use, without too much apps installed at all!)... must admit that my personal favorite is MIUI by lalit79 (recommendations, great job done lalit!), but after some serious stability/speed issues in latest version (overheating during battery charge, ext2/4 not working whatever method I tried, FCs), Eclair is the ultimate choice of the moment (I need a stable and reliable device, for calls and long bussines emails, no crashes or FC-s or reboots)... at least, until a new MIUI version is ready... If you already didn't, try rooting and overclocking eclair with milestone OC (@900/56) - it gives a nice final touch of ultimate speed and joy of "Phone Without Compromise" (and official froyo is one BIG compromise, if you ask me)....
cheers!

Hi mcekic. Well as a matter of fact I did OC my Milestone using Milestone Overclock to 1000Mhz, 69vsel. Battery life is ok so I guess I'll stick with it for a while (If not I will use your 900/56, should give me more battery life - logically).
I believe I have the same needs as you, to have a real PHONE again!
Don't get me wrong, Froyo does have all the extra functionalities (I miss App2SD and Flash 10 the most - but I heard that this is possible on Eclair as well? Havn't done my homework yet in regards to this) but in the end, all that functionalities goes to waste when the performance is sacrificed.
I have also OC'ed the phone to 1Ghz when I was running Froyo. But I think the main culprit is the memory management. It just can't stop killing apps, and when it does, the phone felt slow. I used Autokiller, that helped a bit, but Eclair still wins.
Now, does anyone knows the best Eclair ROM ? I need a naked ROM if available. Whoa now that would be super fast!

Guys, I think this thread would fit in this one very well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029887
Roms: Continuous comparison of milestone roms and updates

well s0ulreaver, now that you mentioned it, I do think this discussion would very well belong there.
Can any mod possibly merge this?

I think Froyo is so heavy for MS. But in another view, it's not too bad.
Did you try stock ROM from Motorola?
Except DSI, I think it's acceptable. You can run at 550MHz without any problem.
With CM6, I have to OC at 750.
But now I use it for daily uses, because it's very convenience.

neato4u said:
It just can't stop killing apps, and when it does, the phone felt slow. I used Autokiller, that helped a bit, but Eclair still wins.
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yup, went back to eclair after several froyo/gb roms (cm6, froyomod, miui, cm7).
our milestone just don't have the ram for anything more memory demanding than eclair
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Now, does anyone knows the best Eclair ROM ? I need a naked ROM if available. Whoa now that would be super fast!
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i tried stock 2.1 from moto germany but then switched to telus lite 5.2 with a gb skin. it runs smooth and stable like a rock and can handle multiple apps in mem (facebook, maps, opera and minor stuff like talk, gmail, etc at the same time).
besides the skin it is pretty vanilla and wields all the nice stuff like overclocking and the cache hack.

Eclair is the best. i overclocked at 800Mhz with 58 Volts. Its smooth and no bugs/issues. It never restarts and works just fine.

nowforever said:
I think Froyo is so heavy for MS. But in another view, it's not too bad.
Did you try stock ROM from Motorola?
Except DSI, I think it's acceptable. You can run at 550MHz without any problem.
With CM6, I have to OC at 750.
But now I use it for daily uses, because it's very convenience.
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You mean stock Froyo ROM from Motorola? No I haven't tried it yet, but I saw this guy here posted Froyo stock running flash 10.2 on his Milestone overclocked to 1.2Ghz and it runs great
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaCspAW8RzA
i have never saw flash video that plays so smooth on the Milestone - and am happy to see one! I'm gonna try Froyo stock when i have the time, but of course, I need to do a Nandroid backup first
What's a DSI?

birdienofly said:
yup, went back to eclair after several froyo/gb roms (cm6, froyomod, miui, cm7).
our milestone just don't have the ram for anything more memory demanding than eclair
i tried stock 2.1 from moto germany but then switched to telus lite 5.2 with a gb skin. it runs smooth and stable like a rock and can handle multiple apps in mem (facebook, maps, opera and minor stuff like talk, gmail, etc at the same time).
besides the skin it is pretty vanilla and wields all the nice stuff like overclocking and the cache hack.
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Well, I believe you're an experienced custom froyo ROM user then. For me I didn't have the time to flash that many froyo ROMs to test. But hey, I guess you've saved my time by sharing your experience with it right
Cool, I should not be doing much this weekend so I think I'll make up some time to flash telus lite 5.2 - The most important thing for me is to have a reliable phone, and a responsive one as well. Based on your recommendation, I think telus lite 5.2 fits the bill. Will try it out and give my opinion on it later. Thanks!

hp13 said:
Eclair is the best. i overclocked at 800Mhz with 58 Volts. Its smooth and no bugs/issues. It never restarts and works just fine.
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Hey I was running on 1Ghz 69vsel, now trying 800Mhz 58vsel. Hopefully there is a noticeable difference in the battery life! Thanks hp13!

neato4u said:
Based on your recommendation, I think telus lite 5.2 fits the bill.
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btw: if you want a gingerbread-look on telus lite (as the default skin and fonts are ugly imho) try "better gingerbread theme for 2.1". just make sure you delete settings.apk and motocardock.apk in the skin update zip.

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btw: if you want a gingerbread-look on telus lite (as the default skin and fonts are ugly imho) try "better gingerbread theme for 2.1". just make sure you delete settings.apk and motocardock.apk in the skin update zip.
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Thanks, hey, as a matter of fact, let me try this on my stock 2.1 ROM.
A bit update on my 2.1 stock, when downloading big files over 100MB via browser and saving to SDCard, my phone will eventually be in the 'sleep of death' mode where it sleep and will never turn on again - unless I remove and reinsert the battery of course. Not sure what's causing this.
Update : It was my MicroSD card which been causing this. It's corrupted somehow or rather ...
Another issue is that when I record videos and battery is low, during the end of recording, the phone will hang. Tried this several times when the battery is low (about 15% charge left), and confirmed that is the issue - why? possible cause maybe not enough power to process / save these videos? Snapping pictures works ok. On some devices (especially Samsungs), camera and video function will be denied access when battery is low. I guess this could be the issue unless anyone else have not run into this problem before?

hmm now i really want to go back to eclair, cm7 is to big for the milestone

Indeed, Telus Lite 5.2 is the way to go. Very good stability and speed.

Darn... I've just flashed Telus 5.2 last Sunday and it's TRUE that this is the fastest ROM available for the Milestone!
I just can't believe the speed that I'm getting. I feel that I can outbeat a Tegra even! Hahahaha..
The phone (compared to stock 2.1) is also cooler when tethering. I used to get up around 46c - 57c, with the Telus I'm getting like 34c - 47c with wifi tether on.
In terms of battery life. After 13hrs 10minutes, my battery went down from 100% to 50%. Edge was turned on all the time. 15minutes of Wifi tether with HSDPA on. 30minutes of fb and websurfing. 15 minutes on Papago GPS. Some SMS and whatsapp plus yahoo messenger runnin all the time as services. Not bad.
Highly recommended for Eclair users!

AFAIK though, nobody has been able to get app2ext working in Telus Lite.
People have gotten app2ext work with stock eclair though. (1 of these days, I plan to go back to rooted, OC'd, GOT sbf eclair. I assume that app2ext will work as GOT is heavily based on the stock eclair sbf.)

I assume that app2ext will work as GOT is heavily based on the stock eclair sbf.
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GOT Eclair is Stock Eclair, it is a Leak of the official Firmaware. only change is the vulnerable recovery afaik.
rest of GOT specific modifications are applied through OR! was one of the best Eclair FW's i tried (for the first time my alarm and geolocation service were working ; )
Darn... I've just flashed Telus 5.2 last Sunday and it's TRUE that this is the fastest ROM available for the Milestone!
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yeah i tried Eclair too again, rly a difference in speed, but some features brought me back to CM6.
imo there are good reasons to go back and stay at eclair, but there are also good reasons to stay on froyo tbh.
+speed speed speed
+multitasking
+battery life
-no flash
-old google apps some can't be updated (gmail, youtube)
-no "2 finger Map Rotation Maps"

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ROM usage experiences

There are so many roms available, but which is the fastest and most stable rom, whether it is eclair or a froyo mod? Since battery has been an issue for most of the roms available, we have to know which rom has the best battery life.
For me, the fastest rom I've encountered was the froyo mod 2.1
However, battery wise, the rom that uses the least amt of power for me was the normal GOT rom with no other roms applied.
Anyone feels otherwise? Feel free to share your experiences with the available roms so to give others an idea of what to expect on other roms.
Base on my personal experience, I think FroyoMod rocks (beside that small lag after undocking that I experience). the battery life is a-okay, not stellar, but good enough.
Last time I tried GOT the rom was really unstable and I had a hard time reflash to Eclair. :/
Will wait for MIUI, i love the launcher.
I have been using Telus Lite for the last few months, with general O/C at 900mhz and i'm very pleased. Average battery life i can stretch is 2 days with about 5-6 hours of wifi use.
I dont have a data plan, so take that into consideration, and screen brightness is always minimum. dont use it as an mp3 player. About 1 hour of talk in 2 days, about 30 - 50 texts / day. And i'm always using my calendar and making notes on the device.
Very pleased.
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i tried most of the roms available here, maybe all .
i searched for the fastest mod, that could let my milestone look superior, and high end. no teering , no slow skipping trough screens, a drawer that wont jerk when scrolling trow apps.
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this is the results of my research:
Eclair
The fastest eclair mod is most likely Telus Lite rom, i have never seen a rom fast as this one.
only problem: it will get slower with k9mail + pure messenger widget
so i skipped to froyo roms, i thought maybe the ram and overall system managment would be improved. :/ not really. maybe a little bit.
Froyo
The fastest froyo mod was cronos 1.5 , i waited passionly for v1.6 but it was in my oppnion too buggy. maybe just on my phone :/
now i am using the newest cyanogenmod, but i am still not satisfied. maybe i am expecting too much of a milestone overclocked to 1.1 ghz
the best batterylife has cronos v1.5
this is how i solved the drawer issue ( jerking around no more, maybe just a little tiny little bit):
i did it with the adw launcher, maybe launcher pro will give the same result.
in portraint mode, 3 apps in arow, in landscape mode 4 apps in a row, and drawer background just a little bit trancparent, if too much it seems to get laggy again, maybe my imagination...
if there is someone out there, that could make a froyo rom, that is slim, and fast as telsus lite rom, it would make the number one rom on xda developers.
like i said i tested all roms with a cpu frequenzy of 1.1 ghz. but still no setisfying
result.
do anybody know who made the telus lite rom, and would he do a froyo lite rom ?
jlove I agree on the Telus, I had been using it as my first rom after testing every eclair/bastardized froyos. very fast, stable.
however now as froyo (beta) came out I switched to FroyoMODv1... for me it is still best Froyo build as it seems very clean. No fancy addons. I love vanilla roms.
btw I didn't try cronos - and I won't. It is month till official release of Froyo. I'm just waiting with MODv1...
btw I always use the launcher pro - it seems as the most fluent of those I've tried (google default, adw, MIUI).
jlove said:
do anybody know who made the telus lite rom, and would he do a froyo lite rom ?
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Too bad telus isn't vanilla, it has it's own font and theme black icons and everything - both are big minus for usability.
I'm craving for very fast very clean tweaked rom.
Personally I have all animations turned off just to gain some performance. Isn't there anyone here who wants just pure speed(+battery life ofc)? Any animation, any fancy feature that I don't REALLY need is an obstacle when I try to get the job done on my phone.
when is the official froyo coming out for the asia region, or perhaps it doesn't matter cos everybody can still download them of the motorola sbf files website?
What's sad is people have given up on making 2.1 ROMs good. A lot of them had bugs here and there. CM6 is probably one of the best managed ROMs out there, but I know many people aren't ready to commit to Froyo.
I myself have sacrificed battery life for Nadlabak's awesome support/updates. I do wish I could get a bit more juice out of daily use though.
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like everyday, since i brought my milestone, i was digging for gold in xda developers . i found some good constalation a couple of days ago.
i have now a system that is running fast and stable, and the drawer isnt laggy anymore.
the best results i get with latest roms out here:
CM6 + OH!NO update * 1,1 ghz + launcherproplus 8.1.1 + widgets² = very fast stable, and very smotth. ----> better then an iphone
launcherproplus : Search it and you will find it forsure _' )
i searched for long and this is the setting, that had setisfied me. its the best result you can get for now.!!!!!!!
good luck

Info about upgrading captivate to Froyo

Ok, so from my reading, I've gathered that there are different kernels which are configured differently for different purposes. I've also read that there are different ROMs.
From what I've read, Android build (eg Eclair or Froyo) is changed by installing ROMs, not kernels.
So, I want to upgrade to Froyo because its iptables are updated for Wifi Tethering. However, I actually like most of the Samsung setup as is, and would like to keep the home screen as is with the four softbuttons (Phone, Email, Browser, Applications) along the bottom and the same basic home layout. I can't seem to find a ROM that has that though. Most have Launcher Pro on them. Why so? Is there a real big advantage to this?
I know, this is a lot of reading lol, so thanks for bearing with me.
In short:
-Samsung's UI or Launcher UI
-What's closest to stock but with Froyo instead of Eclair
Those are my primary concerns lol
Thanks
Regards
Smith
Well, there is advantages to using alternative launchers. More customizable, cleaner, less intrusive. Closest froyo to stock is obviously JI6, which is the leak that started it all for us.
As for the default launcher, there is a customizable version of the TW launcher compliments of gtg465x, check it out here.
geokhentix said:
Well, there is advantages to using alternative launchers. More customizable, cleaner, less intrusive. Closest froyo to stock is obviously JI6, which is the leak that started it all for us.
As for the default launcher, there is a customizable version of the TW launcher compliments of gtg465x, check it out here.
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Awesome, that link and quick response basically answered my entire, long paragraph haha thank you!
Regards, and happy new year!
Smith
Why dont you download Launcher Pro now and check it out, you can put whatever 4 buttons on the bottom as you wish, it works much better than touchwiz.
When you change to froyo it wont be the same as far as the factory homescreen so just try out launcher pro now and see if u could deal with the change
One last concern. I've seen a lot of issues with custom ROMs like the bottom lights for the buttons not working, GPS being messed up, etc. Are those a real concern?
Is there anyway to upgrade to froyo without flashing a custom ROM?
Negative. Froyo IS a form of rom. The method that worked best for me was to install the froyo leak through odin...and then pull the kernel out of DG'S cognition 2.3b8 and swap it into my phone using neldars sgs kernel flasher. the reason for the kernel swap was to incorporate the voodoo lagfix which is by far the most stable and effective program of its kind. Eliminates most system lag. Theres still a minor lag when going to home screen sometimes....(2 seconds) for all the apps to pop up....but it makes navigating the phone and launching apps a LOT faster. It also improves your quadrant (if you care) to 1500's...and your linpack (again if you care) to 14 mflops
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Negative. Froyo IS a form of rom. The method that worked best for me was to install the froyo leak through odin...and then pull the kernel out of DG'S cognition 2.3b8 and swap it into my phone using neldars sgs kernel flasher. the reason for the kernel swap was to incorporate the voodoo lagfix which is by far the most stable and effective program of its kind. Eliminates most system lag. Theres still a minor lag when going to home screen sometimes....(2 seconds) for all the apps to pop up....but it makes navigating the phone and launching apps a LOT faster. It also improves your quadrant (if you care) to 1500's...and your linpack (again if you care) to 14 mflops
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I don't know what quadrant or linpack means lol could you explain briefly?
Ok, I'll try a different kernel for speed, the one I have now is... meh at best lol.
Regards
Smith
quadrant and linpack are benchmark tests obtained from the market that guage device speed/efficiency. Stock speeds on eclair are 800 ish quadrant and 8ish mflops.....froyo is a big boost....but beware....installing froyo has one known issue....bluetooth is comprimised.....although i havent tried it after the kernel swap
topiratiko said:
quadrant and linpack are benchmark tests obtained from the market that guage device speed/efficiency. Stock speeds on eclair are 800 ish quadrant and 8ish mflops.....froyo is a big boost....but beware....installing froyo has one known issue....bluetooth is comprimised.....although i havent tried it after the kernel swap
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Great thanks, that's good info!
Alright, that's fine. I don't use bluetooth a whole lot. I'm still messin around with ROMs right now, I don't even have one I'm in love with yet lol. But hell, coming from WinMo, I love ALL of these comparatively haha
I've been using froyo ROMs on my phone (cognition and axura) for the past few months have had zero problems with Bluetooth.
Transferring files works as does streaming audio and headset functionality and headset controls.
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cognition and axura are custom builds with modifications....bluetooth is "fixed" on those.....I was talking about the leaked rom itself that came out in early october. Bluetooth on that is a disaster

[Q] If Enom 2.14.4 is it, what's next for you?

Guys,
I'm a stability freak, kind of the opposite end of the planet from the CM7 nightly guys I suppose... I love the extra features that are in some ROMs, but Enom's ROM has lots of nice features and is rock solid stable.
But as we all know, he has taken personal leave of Android since December and maybe he'll come back, maybe he won't...
So for you all who want a stable ROM similar to Enom, what are you considering, or what have you already tried? I'm hoping CM7 gets stable and released in the next bit and I'll perhaps move to it, but I really don't want to leave Enom. However I've heard Gingerbread is a bit faster, better storage efficiency, plus fixes, etc..
I'd create a poll, but there's too many ROMs to really put in there I suppose and I'd inevitably leave one or two out, so I won't.
Really never had a problem with CM7. It never reboots and I always get my calls/messages. What do you need more stability from.
You could always try the stock rooted rom plus whatever extras you need.
I am currently using Geo's stock GB ROM. It is running pretty good. DT A2SD seems to screw with the phone volume. (Not sure how or why, but I tested this extensively over the last 2 hours and it definitely does something to it.) Battery life is a little bit lacking. Perhaps a better kernel will help that out. The only thing that is really needed is trackball wake/unlock. I hope someone can fix the code for GB soon. I never really cared for FM radio, so no loss there for me. Aside from the lack of Enom's spare parts, I am happy with it.
lets hope enom comes back to us (greedily ).. i think were all in agreeance when i say he has his priorities straight... all the best to enom..
aside from that, i enjoyed leos roms shortly after froyo was released. i think he was on personal leave as well just recently.. his spare parts reminded me of enoms as far as options. even though he doesnt have the 'hardware skills' necessary, id love to see more from leo..
DT A2SD seems to screw with the phone volume. (Not sure how or why said:
try using the stable release if youre on the beta.
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Very happy with the speed & stability of Geo's GB rom!
CM7 RC1 running VERY well for me. No wonks, great battery.. stable and fast
Yes I am missing enomthers latest touch for the gingerbread ota. But family comes first. Right now I am using dsixda gingerbread rom with root, deodexe, dt's apps2sd, busybox. So far it is running good. Was on geo114m's gingerbread for a little while.
What I miss about enomthers rom is the ability to uninstall programs that you are not going to use. Now I have to semi cook a rom taking out the stuff I don't want. Only thing all of these ota gbs are missing is the trackball wake and alert. Might go back to the latest enomther until that happens.
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After testing different roms, I'm now very happy with SuperAosp rom.
DirkGently1 said:
CM7 RC1 running VERY well for me. No wonks, great battery.. stable and fast
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+1 for me.
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try using the stable release if youre on the beta.
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Where can I find the latest stable release? In the DT thread, I only see the last beta (4).
Know-Fear said:
Where can I find the latest stable release? In the DT thread, I only see the last beta (4).
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ftp://dtuser:[email protected]//
direct link:
http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2sd/dtapps2sd-2.7.5.2-1-signed.zip
I'm coming from Enom's ROM. I took the plunge and installed a couple of nightlies, and then CM7RC1.
I deeply regret it.
Even Dewonkifier didn't help me. Today my mic went silent and I had to reboot to regain it. I can't count the calls I've missed in the last week.
I don't like having to recompile it to build battery percentage.
Gingerbread completely sucks when it comes to launchers (or should I say it the other way around - all the launchers completely suck under Gingerbread). No launcher has been optimized to work with more than 5 screens - and that includes Go-EX / ADW / LP. They suck so badly I can't stand it. Nexus S has it the same way for almost 2 months - and it hasn't been fixed yet. I don't have high hopes of somebody fixing it too soon, until more devices with GB appear.
The only reason I'm keeping CM7 at this point is because I want to correct its RTL language support - it annoys me (specifically when mixing RTL and LTR languages, and more specifically - in punctuation). Plus, I hope to make it distinguish between LTR and RTL strings using a bit better algorithm than the "any RTL symbols in the string? => RTL string" current one. And make it adjustable under CM menus.
This week/weekend I hope to find enough time for it, test it, hopefully submit it (if I get a better solution than the current one), and I'm seriously considering going back to Enom's ROM, at least until one of the launchers gets GB-compatible and CM7 will be merged with GRI40 source and gets rid of the wonks. Never had this SMS bug for a year, don't think it'll bother me in another couple of months. And I don't use Copy-Paste nearly enough to justify GB sweetness. I'll really miss the screen animation...
Thank you very much kind sir.
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ftp://dtuser:[email protected]//
direct link:
http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2sd/dtapps2sd-2.7.5.2-1-signed.zip
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Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
This may actually be my first post here on XDA after countless hours of reading, installing, testing, tweaking and starting all over with my N1.
Your post title says it all. When Enomther called it quits, I figured my N1 had reached it's zenith and would live out it's days rocking The Official 2.14.4. This ROM does it all: Fast, many kernels available to play with, feature-rich, STABLE, did I mention fast?
Out of curiosity regarding the sheer number of threads, I just had to try an MIUI ROM. Tried the stock set-up from miui-dev.com. While I thought the graphics and integrated feature set was great, it was very buggy. Lots of little things just did not work as they should have.
I was not interested in CM7 as bloat seems to have sapped away speed over the last several months.
However, I have run the Gingerbread custom set-up put together by Geo411m and it rocks! Very stable so far, good battery life with the stock kernel, everything works like it should and the performance is excellent. Menus are snappy, web pages scroll smoothly...there are very few issues and I am thrilled that the N1s have a new lease on life.
Only two gripes about Gingerbread so far:
1) No Trackball unlock
2) No power widget integrated into the pull down - I LOVED this feature for toggling system states.
Other than those minor issues that I am sure will be addressed in future ROMs, I am thrilled with GB. Now if only Enomther would weave his magic once again...
Thanks to the great community that makes these phones so fun and powerful!
axial_pro
I'm with the TS when he says that he needs stability. CM7 up until RC1 was just not cutting it, too many wonks and quarks. I put CM7 RC1 on my N1 and it works, but I ended up back on Kang - o - rama's version of cm6.1. Now that I've seen Kangorama release a version with CM7, I may give that a shot.
One of my biggest concerns is memory. If I don't need the stock launcher or ADW, then I don't want to waste the memory there. Kang o rama really works that out with its advanced installer.
For now though, I'm more than happy with Kang o rama. My N1, my gf's N1, and my roommates N1 all are running it and are VERY pleased.
So not surprisingly overwhelming CM7 responses.. So maybe I'll try that as well, but I'm still going to wait until CM7 is released and the "wonky" stuff is fixed.
It's funny how some of us are having polar opposite experiences with CM7 RC1. Really good for some and totally lousy for others
I guess it depends on the usage, and on the level of stability required from the ROM...
I think if I was used to rebooting my phone once in a couple of days - I wouldn't notice some of the problems. If I wasn't used to having 7 screens filled with widgets and icons - I wouldn't complain about the launchers and GB. If I had a lot of calls - possibly I wouldn't have the phone idle for enough time to wonk out. Some uses make the problems more visible.
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Yes I am missing enomthers latest touch for the gingerbread ota. But family comes first. Right now I am using dsixda gingerbread rom with root, deodexe, dt's apps2sd, busybox. So far it is running good. Was on geo114m's gingerbread for a little while.
What I miss about enomthers rom is the ability to uninstall programs that you are not going to use. Now I have to semi cook a rom taking out the stuff I don't want. Only thing all of these ota gbs are missing is the trackball wake and alert. Might go back to the latest enomther until that happens.
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I'm running this one as well.
I've found it to be extremely stable and even better battery life than Enom's. I've also seen an improvement in bluetooth connectivity.
I miss most the status bar power control widget, better trackball notification and the flexibility of his spareparts mod.
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Only two gripes about Gingerbread so far:
1) No Trackball unlock
2) No power widget integrated into the pull down - I LOVED this feature for toggling system states.
axial_pro
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these are the exact two features I'm missing from the GB roms out there. I tried Geos GB rom and after a few hours I couldn't deal without having these features.

Best ROM for HTC Dream ?

I installed Cyanogen Mod 6.1 Magpie on my HTC G1 Dream.
Almost all applications are installed on the SD Ext partition.
It's deadly slow. I can't bare it.
Do you have a better, faster, more stable ROM to suggest?
I need SD Ext partition support.
I crawled the forum, but I am new to Android and feel lost.
I am now good with adb, rom partitionning and rom flashing though.
I always wipe everything before flashing (including system).
Give me your best advise please.
I really think that froyobylaszlo is the best. Stable and very fast ROM =)
Latest version of EzGingerbread is excellent and stable as a rock (I have been using it for a couple of weeks now). Also pretty fast and great battery life. On 2G I am almost getting 2 days out of it.
It has the latest Gingerbread version and Ezterry is still around to support the rom.
froyobylaszlo looks promissing, fast and stable.
I will give it a try and tell you what I think of it.
After reading the EzGingerbread thread, I think I prefer to try the froyobylaszlo first.
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froyobylaszlo looks promissing, fast and stable.
I will give it a try and tell you what I think of it.
After reading the EzGingerbread thread, I think I prefer to try the froyobylaszlo first.
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Depends also much on your requirements. FbL will run smooth without the "RAM-hack", i.e. installing the 0013d/2708 combo. Running EzGingerbread without it will be a pain, but if you install that combo, it runs very very well. I think it compares well to the original 1.6, but having much more features
froyobylazslo and ezginbread are by far my two most favorite roms, but you will have some lags with either one here and there. so if this bothers you you'll have to go back to eclair or donut to get the absolute best speed on a g1. just remember you will be missing out on a ton if you do this! so i say try them both and hope the lags wont be to much to bare.
Thats a coincidence, because I have been playing with my Dreams and flashing a bunch of oldies but goodies. Last week I flashed CM 6 Magpie - same as yours. I flash ohsaka super wipe before flashing magpie. but the first thing I do after it boots is 1. enable nonmarket apps and 2. go to cyanogenmod settings and allow for application moving automatically and then 3. install root explorer, go to system/app and wipe out all the junk all wallpapers, youtube gmail email everything just keep the bare minimum and at the end I have like 6 apps to play with then it is a very workable ROM, and also install cache for root and enable to clear every hour - and it has been running nice and simple ever since. Granted its not my daily driver, but anyway Fierat really made a big difference with magpie...
Froyo is weird on the G1. Gingerbread is much more natural you just have to get creative with which apps you install. EZGingerbread is nice... its more of a novelty.
But my absolute most favorite ROM ever for the G1 is SuperBad by htcClay and 2nd is SuperE by Buchacher. Those are the best roms when you are actually using it as a daily driver.
Although I did manage with The Dudes Cupcake for almost 6 months as my work phone, and its all a matter of how committed you are to seeing it through.
FroyobyLaszlo is the most capable Froyo Rom for the G1 for me. But I really never liked Froyo, it was only a short period of time in between CM5 and CM7 which blew away CM6.
I recommend my froyo rom. Its quite fast (better than cm6, I've never tried fbl so I can't compare..)
It (unlike fbl, cm6, and other roms froyo or lower) is still getting updates. And ive recently started caring about security do expect changes soonish
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Its quite fast (better than cm6, I've never tried fbl so I can't compare..)
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That's not very difficult, CM6 was one of the slowest I ever installed on my G1.
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AndDiSa said:
That's not very difficult, CM6 was one of the slowest I ever installed on my G1.
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true that! I have found that EzGingerbread 1.0 to be probably the fastest/most stable rom I have tried (If you set it up the way it says in the thread and install the older versions of facebook and maps as suggested). SuperE was not bad but not my favorite. I would avoid Froyo roms. I have never has one run well, including the official T-Moble for MT3G OTA update.
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EZGingerbread is nice... its more of a novelty.
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?... novelty..? I might have agreed if you were talking about Ice Cream Sandwich because that is probably too slow, but EzGingerbread is not a novelty for sure.
I have used it for the last 3 releases and especially 1.0 is ready for every day use. Everything works very smooth. Almost all roms I have used the last few years had some issues (I bought my 1st G1 in 2008), I have to find the first issue with EzGingerbread in combination with the recommended Radio-2.22.28.25 and SPL 1.33.0013d
No forced closes, fast, etc.
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?... novelty..? I might have agreed if you were talking about Ice Cream Sandwich because that is probably too slow, but EzGingerbread is not a novelty for sure.
I have used it for the last 3 releases and especially 1.0 is ready for every day use. Everything works very smooth. Almost all roms I have used the last few years had some issues (I bought my 1st G1 in 2008), I have to find the first issue with EzGingerbread in combination with the recommended Radio-2.22.28.25 and SPL 1.33.0013d
No forced closes, fast, etc.
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I used it from one of the early alphas (the first one with autokerkel) and I've had a similar experience. There were bugs in early builds (if you didnt expect that, you must be crazy), bit I've had no problems with it. Was my daily for most of the time I used my mytouch
DREAMTeam Froyo is a best ROM.
DREAMTeam Froyo by TVall is best. I have been using with Titanium backup and ext2 and with custom mtd
Froyobylaszlo and GingerYoshi are the best
According to my experience Froyobylaszlo is the best for performance but I ended up using GingerYoshi because it has all languages supported (Arabic in my case). So if you only need English go ahead with Froyobylaszlo but if you want another language you might want to check if it's included first. EzGingerBread does not include all languages either. GingerYoshi's performance is not bad at all if you use LauncherPro and it includes all language packs.
Laszlo's release is pretty buggy from my experience. I would stick to one of the many gingerbread releases, dream team froyo, or my ROM after I can get out the next alpha.
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Forgetting about the classic biffmod2.1 rom that thing is grate. Its a dead rom nut it died stable and grate
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I'm running ezGingerbread right now and am going to test out the newest version... but I think I already decided I want a more minimized version. I literally delete every app that can be deleted and using my phone as a daily driver mostly for messaging (SMS) and listening to music. I don't even have an internet flat. And I remember my 1.6 original ROM was way faster than this now. And I don't use/ need almost all of the new features, since my G1 runs so slow and my battery is old and drains so fast.
So, my question are, are the 1.6 roms the fastes out there?
And which roms still are being maintained other than ezGingerbread?
Thanks so much guys!
FroyobyLazlo 5.2 hands down is the Best CM6 Rom.
CM7 Magpie is the best CM7 Rom.
I don't use AOSP Roms, but they'll always have the best speed. Also most free Ram.
Personally FBL, with a Gingerbread Theme. Ext4. All apps to SD, and Use the lastest Froyo Kernel. But FBL has crazy speed with it's kernel, but it's reboots every couple of hours.
Mt debloated Cm7.1 Rom GingerbreadbyNomy (RC1) With the latest GB kernel is worth trying. I'm not saying it's the fastest, but it has like 75% free Ram.
Unrelashade said:
I'm running ezGingerbread right now and am going to test out the newest version... but I think I already decided I want a more minimized version. I literally delete every app that can be deleted and using my phone as a daily driver mostly for messaging (SMS) and listening to music. I don't even have an internet flat. And I remember my 1.6 original ROM was way faster than this now. And I don't use/ need almost all of the new features, since my G1 runs so slow and my battery is old and drains so fast.
So, my question are, are the 1.6 roms the fastes out there?
And which roms still are being maintained other than ezGingerbread?
Thanks so much guys!
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Of course 1.6 will always be fast.. the G1 isn't meant to run anything over that
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In my opinion donut ROMS (Superd 1.11 with Elegance (BETA) 1.1.1 theme) are the best for daily ROM, you can have "heavy" apps running on background without missing sms, fc's, random reboots, lags, incoming call instantly, etc. but if you want the newest features ezGingerbread it's the best for me and your G1 will have around 30mb of free ram every time

Which ROM to install?

Hello,
I have my A853 Milestone for about a year and a half.
Currently I have the HO!NO! Cyanogen mod installed on it.
The problem is that the device is very slow, it always crash and games are super laggy (like Angry Birds) or it crashes (like Draw Something).
Which ROM should I install?
I want it to be stable, quick and run games like it should run them.
Thanks
ArielElia95 said:
Hello,
I have my A853 Milestone for about a year and a half.
Currently I have the HO!NO! Cyanogen mod installed on it.
The problem is that the device is very slow, it always crash and games are super laggy (like Angry Birds) or it crashes (like Draw Something).
Which ROM should I install?
I want it to be stable, quick and run games like it should run them.
Thanks
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I've had my OG droid for over two years, and I think I've tried every possible ROM there is. The Gingerbread ROM are nice, but they lag really badly on the device. It doesn't have the CPU or memory to handle it well enough. You could do it, but things like the camera and games will almost always end up bogging the device to unresponsive.
I've had the best luck with Liquid Frozen Yogurt 1.95. It s a 2.2.1 ROM (Froyo) and it is really smooth. The camera actually works which is a problem for most of the GB ROMs. Bugless Beast is also a good ROM.
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I've had my OG droid for over two years, and I think I've tried every possible ROM there is. The Gingerbread ROM are nice, but they lag really badly on the device. It doesn't have the CPU or memory to handle it well enough. You could do it, but things like the camera and games will almost always end up bogging the device to unresponsive.
I've had the best luck with Liquid Frozen Yogurt 1.95. It s a 2.2.1 ROM (Froyo) and it is really smooth. The camera actually works which is a problem for most of the GB ROMs. Bugless Beast is also a good ROM.
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How about games?
Does games on Frozen Yogurt 1.95 run smoothly? no lags?
Is it stable? (no crashes)
ArielElia95 said:
How about games?
Does games on Frozen Yogurt 1.95 run smoothly? no lags?
Is it stable? (no crashes)
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that rom is for the droid not our milestone unfortunately
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that rom is for the droid not our milestone unfortunately
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oh..
well I'm trying to install The Froyo Mod now, I remember it was good + this is 2.2, which the milestone should support much better than the Gingerbread - 2.3.
Lol, sorry
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Nothing I did could get the gb roms to run smoothly. The OG droids just don't have the ram.
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I installed TheFroyoMod 2.9.3 and now the device is much better.
It runs smoothly, Draw Something actually works (pretty smooth), it's stable and I recommand you to install it too.
It makes sense because the device officially support 2.2 and not 2.3, it has resources for 2.2 but not enough for 2.3
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I play zenonia in froyo mod with minimal lags. I think it is the best rom for gaming.
I liked cm6 for battery but cm9 was running really good on mine
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What's wrong with CM 7.2.0 RC1 by kabaldan? I'm planing to install it on my 2.2 stock ROM but retain the 600mhz frequency for battery life reason. Would I suffer worse performance than my current stock?
thanks
I'm in the same boat as the OP.
I am setting up my friend's OG Droid and I'm curious the best ROM.
I have to say I'm pretty happy with CM 7.1 stable release so far. It works great so far and I haven't noticed any problems. The camera seems fine.
Is GB really that bad?
I did try CM 7.2 experimental build (from CM download page) and it was working great until I noticed that the flashlight app, torch wouldn't work. I really wanted it to work in the Power Widget. After screwing around with it for quite a while, I ended reflashing back to CM7.1 stable.
Assuming games won't be games played on the device, I think that CM7 is the way to go unless there are more RAM-hogging apps running. I'm a newb to the OG Droid though.
*EDIT*
P.S. Do you guys have a favorite recovery? I am using CWM 2.5.0.1. The weird thing is it doesn't display Dalvik as wiped when I wipe Dalvik Cache. I dunno if it is a problem or not. I actually searched around a fair bit. What is the best recovery for the OG Droid? Stability, nandroids, and functionality are key. I don't care about touch interface.
Thanks. Feel free to flame me if I am overlooking this info.
recovery i use minimod, hava any scripts (supercharge), unistall system apps, backup apps and have a script to wipe a ext partition.
I used all roms for milestone and cm6 (or shadowmod discontinued a long time ago ) is the best, the only one it works fine, another roms always have a problem with performance (i don't play in my phone).
I have been runnning a rooted overclocked (800mhz) stock rom for ages, but still had issues with it freezing when surfing and quitting apps.
Yesterday I finally got round to changing to CM 7.2.0 RC1. Performance is so much better, more options, smoother scrolling, but the battery life is worse. I had to charge it twice today which is usually a rare occurance. So I have knocked it back down to 800mhz again from 1ghz, setup the 2g toggle, and made a few other tweeks. Will see how that does for now, but if not then will look into battery calibration.
I rarely use my phone for gaming, so couldn't comment on the performance, but if its anything like what I experienced elsewhere you should be happy. Slightly earlier builds have been mentioned to have a better battery life too.
Hope that helps
Best ROM on the Milestone right now? MIUI 2.4.20 hands down.
Damn... new users can't post outside link but Google it.
And btw, it seems that the ROM was designed for Chinese Milestone so the physical keyboard layout is kinda messed up if you use Europe or HK milestone. And since I don't use the physical keyboard at all so it's not a huge problem. But seriously, this is the best damn thing you can put on a Milestone, try it out
Cheers
BoyBawang2 said:
What's wrong with CM 7.2.0 RC1 by kabaldan? I'm planing to install it on my 2.2 stock ROM but retain the 600mhz frequency for battery life reason. Would I suffer worse performance than my current stock?
thanks
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While it will probably work better than a stock ROM, I'd suggest you try a Froyo based ROM. The biggest issue with GB on a Milestone is the RAM. I tried out every single workaround I came across for over a year, only to end up going back to CM6 (vikasbn's version).
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While it will probably work better than a stock ROM, I'd suggest you try a Froyo based ROM. The biggest issue with GB on a Milestone is the RAM. I tried out every single workaround I came across for over a year, only to end up going back to CM6 (vikasbn's version).
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Thanks for the tip bro. Do you recommend this Froyo thread or something else?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606796
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Thanks for the tip bro. Do you recommend this Froyo thread or something else?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606796
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That's the one I'm currently using and so far it's worked like charm. It's also the only one that seems to be updated.
Hello everyone,
I have an A853 (Milestone). I am looking for advice on what SBF and ROM to install, and how to optimize the performance.
I hope it is ok for me to join this thread (instead of opening a new one). Below are my concerns; I am looking forward to advice from experienced forum members (reading from your posts, you definitively are experienced):
1. underlying firmware (OS)
If I understand correctly, due to the locked bootloader I can only change which kernel I will be running by flashing a different SBF file:
- SHOLS_U2_02.31.0 (I believe this is stock Eclair?)
- SHOLS_U2_05.26.3 (and this should be stock Froyo?)
Which SBF should I flash my phone with, so that the ROM I will later choose will work best? Of course, I'll apply a vulnerable SBF afterwards.
2. ROM
I am most keen on MIUI (the latest and final build for this device is 2.4.20?), since I was using it before and I really like its user interface. However, I experienced some problems with it (unresponsive/laggy, not receiving SMS messages after some time, etc.).
Is the MIUI-derivate NIMIUI any better? Moreover, I saw there is another ''chef'' quynhnt that is further developing NIMIUI but I see user responses that it is kind of buggy?
I've tried FroyoMOD which seemed the fastest to me (although I would be really missing MIUI features), however it did not let me connect to my home WiFi (WPA2+AES+Radius) so I let it go.
ICS seems kind of no-go to me because Milestone only has 256MB of RAM (which is very little); I've tried the unofficial alpha CM9 and although everything worked, it was just too laggy. I believe the unofficial MIUI v4 would be the same.
Any suggestions? I am leaning towards official MIUI but with thorough testing of incoming SMS (I can't afford not to receive them) and additional optimizations that are decribed below. Or am I missing something?
3. optimizations
SuperCharger
Definitively I would like to use the SuperCharger V6 (or is it V8 - any differences?). Which settings profile should I select based on the following demands:
- I don't play games on my phone
- I want a responsive phone with no lag
- The most demanding app I use is Exchange sync (6 accounts), nothing more
Build.prop modifications?
Should I take care of anything here? Maybe change the Dalvik heap size (to what?)
ext3 on sdcard
Can this somehow help me? I have prepared a functioning ext3 partition on my sd, I just don't know if it is possible to somehow manage a swapfile on it and if this should help my phone being less laggy? Can MIUI handle this out-of-the-box?
I kindly thank to anyone who would be willing to help me with advice.
Best regards, d11
I got an OG Droid i use for multimedia... The screen is crystal clear with LIquid Smooth... the launcher sometimes gets buggy but everything works including torch etc... It basically made an old system useful again. I'll try out other system and post my results... Froyo versions first and so on...

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