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Reboot problems = incompatibility between Froyo (2.2) and Tegra2 according to LG Aus

"LG Aus irons bugs out of Optimus 2X
World's first dual-core phone on sale downunder.
LG Australia has finally broken its silence over ongoing problems with the Optimus 2X, which Guiness World Records acknowledges as the world’s first dual-core smart phone.
Users overseas and locally who had bought the product through eBay and other online sources reported a number of issues with the phone including random power-offs.
The Korean company subsequently released a patch, however, many users continued to report malfunctions.
LG Australia marketing director Brad Read confirmed that the problems related to the incompatibility of the phone's software – developed with Google’s Android 2.2 Froyo – and the handset's dual core processor.
For several weeks LG Australia’s Facebook page has been peppered with customer complaints, however, LG only acknowledged the problem on the social networking site yesterday.
One reader said he was selling his Optimus 2X for $1 on eBay as a paperweight.
Read, however, said that all of the problems had now been ironed out.
An updated software fix had been installed in phones shipped to Australia with no customers buying locally expected to have any problems.
The Optimus 2X goes on sale this week at Harvey Norman and was expected to soon become available through other outlets including mobile carriers.
Its price tag in Australia would be around $650.
Notwithstanding the software compatibility issues, the Optimus 2X was expected to generate much kudos for LG in the highly competitive mobile phone market, and woo users with its promise of dramatically faster management of mobile apps and downloading of web content."
Source: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/257825,lg-aus-irons-bugs-out-of-optimus-2x.aspx
So it seems to be a driver/kernel/software problem?

But when are we getting it??

ULJ said:
An updated software fix had been installed in phones shipped to Australia with no customers buying locally expected to have any problems.
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Could anyone living in Australia confirm this?

The explanation seems kinda vague to me, not to mention the timing. They say the fix it just in time for the Australian launch? Sounds like a publicity thing to me. People who use custom roms with gingerbread still have the reboot problems, right?

cynop said:
The explanation seems kinda vague to me, not to mention the timing. They say the fix it just in time for the Australian launch? Sounds like a publicity thing to me. People who use custom roms with gingerbread still have the reboot problems, right?
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Yes is all 100% bull****

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Yes is all 100% bull****
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come on...custom rom with gingerbread its very diferrent than stock..dont forget that is CM7 nightly version and it has very different commits and drivers and blah blah..i also suffered by reboot issues in the very first start using nightly cm gingerbread but if you will try the last build you will see that random reboots it has been fixed..at least for me!i dont get any random reboots..!with stock rom also i didnt got even once a random reboot..!
cm7 it has nothing to do with stock froyo and even if when stock gingerbread will be released!

But why should we accept a flagship phone that have known fatal problems?
u know, the price of first batch is about 30% higher than now.
And we always face the sudden dead when charging.
LG should have solved this issue before selling.

kencheung2008 said:
But why should we accept a flagship phone that have known fatal problems?
u know, the price of first batch is about 30% higher than now.
And we always face the sudden dead when charging.
LG should have solved this issue before selling.
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amateurs will become proffesionals in the future..LG seems right now doing a step to proffesionality and a next step closer to future LOL
at least they released a fix..this is unbelievable
seems they will get more serious with the LG2X from now and on...

edangel said:
amateurs will become proffesionals in the future..LG seems right now doing a step to proffesionality and a next step closer to future LOL
at least they released a fix..this is unbelievable
seems they will get more serious with the LG2X from now and on...
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=)) do you really believe all the **** u saying ?

KeePeeR26 said:
=)) do you really believe all the **** u saying ?
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absolutely not for LG..but for the cyanogenmod team i am very possitive..!!if i have to believe for LG's future then i must first see the stock gingerbread rom when they will release it..but i have a good feeling that it would be cool and optimised with our tegra2 better than froyo...!
but you must stop complaining...every device has its ****s..not only LG2X..!
tell me the ultimate device with 100% working condition without bugs and lags..!!
i think there is one..the NOKIA 3310

kencheung2008 said:
But why should we accept a flagship phone that have known fatal problems?
u know, the price of first batch is about 30% higher than now.
And we always face the sudden dead when charging.
LG should have solved this issue before selling.
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man, then u probably could have bought your o2x half a year later. it is obvious, if one looks a the stock software of the o2x, that LG was trying to throw it on the market fast, to be the first dual core phone - to generate max profit.

edangel said:
absolutely not for LG..but for the cyanogenmod team i am very possitive..!!if i have to believe for LG's future then i must first see the stock gingerbread rom when they will release it..but i have a good feeling that it would be cool and optimised with our tegra2 better than froyo...!
but you must stop complaining...every device has its ****s..not only LG2X..!
tell me the ultimate device with 100% working condition without bugs and lags..!!
i think there is one..the NOKIA 3310
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Damn I loved that phone

edangel said:
at least they released a fix..this is unbelievable
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Well, for now, they just *said* they have released a fix. And it's not the first time. So, until there's any proof of it, you're right, it is very hard to believe, even with a strong effort.

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Don't bother with Edangel, he rants about how great his O2x is in almost every topic. In his own little world.

theres a couple of guys who have bought the australian version over at the whirlpool forums http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1598794&p=22#r434, i have asked them to post what version they are running, if these issues are fixed with the new update then i would expect these phones to be running it, but i think that is unlikley, would like to know what LG australia has done to iliminate these problem in the aus version yet the rest of the world has to wait, llike others here i'm very warey of LG's 'it's fixed it's fixed' statements

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Don't bother with Edangel, he rants about how great his O2x is in almost every topic. In his own little world.
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No mate you are wrong..its not great!!you think that all the other phones is better than this one!you are wrong..believe i ve tried sooo many devices and all had bugs and problems and i heard many complains for every each device..its a normal phenomenal even here for lg2x..even lg have bugs but its better than the others..!u must admit that every device is not like a super hero that can do everything!only in dream you can find that..!even a ferrari car have mechanical bugs lol...but what if you compare it with a honda or a wolkswagen??really?at least you pay less for fixing volkswagen than ferrari... ;-) that at least is what lg doing..its still a lada car man in a working great condition! Hahaha
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edangel said:
complains for every each device..its a normal phenomenal even here for lg2x..even lg have bugs but its better than the others..!u must admit that every device is not like a super hero that can do everything!only in dream you can find that..!even a ferrari car have mechanical bugs lol...but what if you compare it with a honda or a wolkswagen??really?at least you pay less for fixing volkswagen than ferrari... ;-) that at least is what lg doing..its still a lada car man in a working great condition! Hahaha
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I got all the ones without oil and damaged engines and flat tires...
Or in other words an used car for the price of a new one ;-)
Is this normal phenomenal for this branch or only for this particular car.
Well after owned many, I dare to say that all engines where new and not broken...Sometimes a flat tire
I don't trust that the mechanic will fix this engine
Well this ends the metaphor and leaves us waiting for that magical O2X fix :-(
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one of the australain guys who purchased in aus has posted that his version V10b, isn't that the stock rom that launched with the phone ?, so how have LG australia manged to fix a phone with so many problems and still be using Version V10b, when a lot of us have applied what LG stated was a fix for the issues in version V10d

ozivillan said:
one of the australain guys who purchased in aus has posted that his version V10b, isn't that the stock rom that launched with the phone ?, so how have LG australia manged to fix a phone with so many problems and still be using Version V10b, when a lot of us have applied what LG stated was a fix for the issues in version V10d
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Said news if that's the case makes me worried about the update :-(
Maybe he got old stock or imported stuff ?
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ozivillan said:
one of the australain guys who purchased in aus has posted that his version V10b, isn't that the stock rom that launched with the phone ?, so how have LG australia manged to fix a phone with so many problems and still be using Version V10b, when a lot of us have applied what LG stated was a fix for the issues in version V10d
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Kernel version?

(Disappointing!) US LG says 2X end up its life to 2.3.4

(Disappointing!) US LG says 2X end up its life to 2.3.4!(US facebook)
How can LG treat its flagship product like this? even HTC Incredible S, single core, certainly get 4.0 upgrade, recent announce by HTC. 2X is a DualCore smartphone, hah??? no 4.0 ?? fuzzy.
In other word, black is also go to the end of its life by official 2.3.4. I can only say, never buy LG anymore.

exe127 said:
(Disappointing!) US LG says 2X end up its life to 2.3.4!(US facebook)
How can LG treat its flagship product like this? even HTC Incredible S, single core, certainly get 4.0 upgrade, recent announce by HTC. 2X is a DualCore smartphone, hah??? no 4.0 ?? fuzzy.
In other word, black is also go to the end of its life by official 2.3.4. I can only say, never buy LG anymore.
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Where did you get that information? I can't find it on LG USA Facebook. Can you provide us a valid information?
If it's just another speculation, I believe that this topic will be taken down quickly by mods...

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Well that's really sucks...
Sales are down both on year-on-year basis and sequentially and the conglomerate has actually lost some money over the past three months.
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LG reports disappointing Q3 results, handset sales down, and we are disappointing with LG Update results, because they don't care about customers... just thinking about sales and being rich...

exe127 said:
(Disappointing!) US LG says 2X end up its life to 2.3.4!(US facebook)
How can LG treat its flagship product like this? even HTC Incredible S, single core, certainly get 4.0 upgrade, recent announce by HTC. 2X is a DualCore smartphone, hah??? no 4.0 ?? fuzzy.
In other word, black is also go to the end of its life by official 2.3.4. I can only say, never buy LG anymore.
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Really disappointed. Almost all the other brands(HTC, Samsung, Moto) have announced that most of their android 2.3 smartphones will be upgradable to ICS.
If LG really not provide ICS for optimus black/2x, certainly no one would buy its products again

Agreed. Very disappointing. I love my optimus black but I hate LG now. If optimus black won't have been such an amazing good phone I would have sweared not to buy another LG product for sure.

officialreloaded said:
Agreed. Very disappointing. I love my optimus black but I hate LG now. If optimus black won't have been such an amazing good phone I would have sweared not to buy another LG product for sure.
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I agree, no more LG products

LG Jordan - إل جي الأردن Dear Mohammad Abbadi i will check regarding the Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich and will get back to you shortly.
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LG Jordan - إل جي الأردن Hi Mohammad Abbadi ICS is the android version 2.4, it has been released very recently in the market and as of now its not clear if its going to be available for P970 and P920 ... there is only one model in the market that has ICS and its a Google product... as I informed you The Optimus Black will receive the gingerbread update and we will announce it on our page as soon as the update is ready for the end user... LG Jordan Team thank you for your continuous support to our products and hope you will always be a fan of our page.

I think they will giv 4.0 to ob/2x it will be late but we will hav it
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Well, I think it's still too early to say. ICS has just been released only anyway, i guess it takes time to determine if it comes. Some people say it might come, some say it might not. Only time will tell. Though one thing's right though, updates are awfully slow. I don't know if the LG team is incompetent or just not dedicated, but the other manufacturers are doing a much better job :/

Ya same things happen when gb realesed many peoples said that gb required atleast 1ghz processor but thats all gone fake and i bet ics will come to all high end devices
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what are you all dreaming???ICS on OB and/or 2x??? I am so sceptic about this!!
We have not yet gingerbread on OB, and you are looking forward to ICS??
HAHAHA!! LG treat customers as figures on income reports!!
If they (maybe) give us GB when ICS is out in the market, untill they will give us (or be ready to give us) ICS for OB, the phone will be replaced with another phone .....

I do not believe for a second that this OB will get ICS .. but I will have sold my first and most definately last LG phone before Gingerbread gets within a thousand miles of it. LG - you suck big time, please please go bust!
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rgabi88;18822311untill they will give us (or be ready to give us) ICS for OB said:
Wow,thank You LG.Thats really a shame for a GREAT old GoldStar!!!
You dont have good results in finantial sfare....trust me they will not be better with that kind of threatment.Thats becouse this is not a refrigerator.And when You do nice job of hardwere,You must support it by the softwere side too.
1 ecsited client willl bring You 2-3 another...but 1 disapointed will make go away 10 persons!!!And this is the truth.
I will be the secondone type
You will not going to have better finantial results,ofcourse not from my pocket dudes...
Even Wildfire S is the better choice
Gingerbread for the 1 week of 2015???
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Thats why I sold my OB this week... I'll never trust in LG again.
I moved to an HTC HD2. I know its a quite "old" device, but I'm sure that I will have all updates from community, so its fine for me.
Next time, I'll never think in LG again. Simply, I'm too dissapointed with it, its a shame...

I suggest everyone lets them know what they think on twitter @LGElectronics

hmm honneslty the biggest reason I've bought an OB for, is the nova screen. I was even thinking about selling it for the OW. But, since some times going back to sony ericsson is on my mind (one of my previous phones was a W810i)

Okay no wonder they lost millions from last year. LG is really sucks!!!! Good hardware bad development, very bad to maintain their costumers.
Xiaomi, come to papa! Or Any suggestion for $400 phone?
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Ilko said:
hmm honneslty the biggest reason I've bought an OB for, is the nova screen. I was even thinking about selling it for the OW. But, since some times going back to sony ericsson is on my mind (one of my previous phones was a W810i)
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IPS is very good and natural in color. But nova bright LEDs are just a gimmick. I compared nova and super amoled from nexus s with high brightness, okay p970 has the most brightness but.everthing washed out. Super amoled can keep black color in maximum brightness. But who uses max brightness???
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FatherD said:
I suggest everyone lets them know what they think on twitter @LGElectronics
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Does LG get a twitter? they just have facebook in hongkong

ICS waiting .....

No new kernels , rom`s , mod`s , nightles .... so bored ....
Every day open xda and I hope to see something new .... but ....
Other forums ( nexus s , hd2 , HD etc etc ) burn like fire of new posts ....

Same here, it looks like we did make big mistake when we bought LG!
srry 4 bad eng
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Not LG's fault, it's nVidia.

Rusty! said:
Not LG's fault, it's nVidia.
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Unfortunately yes :-(
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Rusty! said:
Not LG's fault, it's nVidia.
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And frankly I dont get why nvidia is doing this.
I dont think that any of us will ever buy an Nvidia chipset mobile device ever again.
Dont they see that?
How arrogant are they?
Kal-el seems to be amazing in terms of performance and efficiency.. but who cares...
I'd rather get a device which is not as good, knowing that for the next 1-2 years i'll have custom roms with updated OS.

This seems interesting!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19861004&postcount=57

Seriously??? I think both got fault but I think LG's fault is more serious because the latest Kernal has already been released by Nvidia but don't know why LG is not releasing it with the GB they release with 2x...

Seriously, you bought the first dual core phone in the world with a chipset made by a company who's never been in the phone business before (nvidia) made by a company who's never made high end android phones before (lg) and you expected everything to work flawlessly? Have some patience, lg has announced that they will release ics and nvidia has done a lot more already than I had expected (they are actually communicating with arcee about releasing stuff they don't have to release.

Well it looks like they're finally getting their act in gear, so all is not yet lost.

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Well it looks like they're finally getting their act in gear, so all is not yet lost.
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Agreed. I am slightly hopeful about this turning into a good phone . I just think that both nvidia and lg have fewer android-developers than what would have been optimal. This combined with the fact that they needed to release the device fast has lead to some frustration.

I love the phone.... it has enough power, a beautiful IPS screen and is just the right size for me. It now has Gingerbread and ICS is promised. What's not to like? My missus has the iphone 4s and it was twice the cost I paid for my LG. I wouldn't swap mine for an iphone or any other £500 mobile just yet as it does all that's required and looks to have a rosy future with ICS.
Pete.

ergoen said:
Seriously, you bought the first dual core phone in the world with a chipset made by a company who's never been in the phone business before (nvidia) made by a company who's never made high end android phones before (lg) and you expected everything to work flawlessly? Have some patience, lg has announced that they will release ics and nvidia has done a lot more already than I had expected (they are actually communicating with arcee about releasing stuff they don't have to release.
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Agreed
Take a look at SonyEricsson when they first relased Xperia.. First update from Donut to Eclair, it was even worse then LG. And dont forget how they locked Xperia bootloaders, damn people hated that company But now, a year later they actually help you to unlock bootloaders, are pretty quick with updates. And they even made dualtouch to X10, just because people demanded it.
So yes, companys can make 180° turns
So dont throw away your awesome piece of electronic, you are going to regret it.
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i saw a g2x forum, and in the ICS project thread Azuscee wrote that CM team has fully working ICS for g2x(which is 2x actually). So i think they have fully working test build for 2x also...so don't worry, we will have CM9 officially.

It's not fully working, the camera is a no-go.

OMG..
Just saw the news from nvidia...
The trouble they would go, not to release the source code, is amazing..
I wonder why

So much frustration and problems with all this .... when I had the N95 8GB, `problem` was only about Garmin and some other small non-essential apps ...
everything else is working well and I had no need to change anything .....
ps,,,, My wife will go crazy because I spend more time with phone
Zorica: Halid , can you please bring me a jacket ?
Halid: Ok Zorica , just to do nandroid restore and flash other kernel ... I fell in fck bootloop
Zorica: Arrrrgggrr .......

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It's not fully working, the camera is a no-go.
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Is anything on the O2X working??

I think that everything bar the camera is working.

Rusty! said:
I think that everything bar the camera is working.
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So everything is working, except camera, including all features? Even hardware acceleration?

I think so.

will got no support soon

Hello dears,
I write here for the first time in LG 4X forum and I don't want people those who already bought this device to misunderstand me please
the device is really equipped with the latest and fastest hardware at factories,
But..
LG as company is not new, it was (Gold Star) company and replaced the complete ID of the cheap company with Gold Star with LG as new brand.
and the new department decides to get the latest in the market and hit it with the newest electronic weapons as your 4X
I got a past trying with LG devices, with P990 and P999 (G2X) it was really perfect as hardware but as software, it is still with GB v2.3.5 as the final stock ROM from LG, start from v2.2
I don't why LG can't support her devices to the latest software at google android !!!
So the point that I want to reach here is:
Don't expect LG to support your device to the latest ROMs of android, it will stop at 4.1.1 or 4.2 and stop there then you will see the support from MIUI or CM team, but not LG and will face ton's of change log's and (what working) (what is not)
LG is good for short month's of usage but not for long time.
Hope LG support department read this thread and try to support the software teams in the future.
hope you got what I means
Regards

downloadzy said:
Hello dears,
I write here for the first time in LG 4X forum and I don't want people those who already bought this device to misunderstand me please
the device is really equipped with the latest and fastest hardware at factories,
But..
LG as company is not new, it was (Gold Star) company and replaced the complete ID of the cheap company with Gold Star with LG as new brand.
and the new department decides to get the latest in the market and hit it with the newest electronic weapons as your 4X
I got a past trying with LG devices, with P990 and P999 (G2X) it was really perfect as hardware but as software, it is still with GB v2.3.5 as the final stock ROM from LG, start from v2.2
I don't why LG can't support her devices to the latest software at google android !!!
So the point that I want to reach here is:
Don't expect LG to support your device to the latest ROMs of android, it will stop at 4.1.1 or 4.2 and stop there then you will see the support from MIUI or CM team, but not LG and will face ton's of change log's and (what working) (what is not)
LG is good for short month's of usage but not for long time.
Hope LG support department read this thread and try to support the software teams in the future.
hope you got what I means
Regards
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thank you capt. obvious

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thank you capt. obvious
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lol, well said!

You are very optimistic thinking that reached 4.1 1
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I disagree. It looks to me that LG won't even update our 4x to jelly bean.
Lg are bunch of noobs.
To lg - if you are planning to fight with the likes of Samsung/HTC - offer same type of service. Like Unlock tool for the bootloader. Or unlocked boot loader from factory. At least that way we can make our own way into future updates...
I hate myself for buying a lg! Wasn't even aware of locked boot loader. Next time I will sniff around1000 times before deciding to buy a lg.

How many updates to the firmware has there been since the phone was released? And where are the fix lists?

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How many updates to the firmware has there been since the phone was released? And where are the fix lists?
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there are 10a to 10f firmware and i think the update only to solve the problem and i think there will be no update because they think they do a good job...... if they reliaze it!!
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Fixes are fine by my book, ICS is already a very good platform to use. Sure, JB brings more improvements but it is game changing compared to GB to ICS.
Can you show me the fix list? I've searched a lot on google but no one seems to have it..

Perhaps we can hope that lg will upgrade the 4x hd directly to Key Lime, if the rumors about a sonn-to-come Optimus Nexus are true...

Belteral said:
Perhaps we can hope that lg will upgrade the 4x hd directly to Key Lime, if the rumors about a sonn-to-come Optimus Nexus are true...
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1. LG Optimus Nexus is not a rumor, but true
2. Yeah, maybe they're working about something (i'm f*ckin optimistic)

Although, LG's software support is crap, i'd still choose their Hardware over HTC's. And, just being chose by Google as the manufacturer for their new flagship device...LG will hopefully get more love by devs. The Optimus 4x HD is a true beast, it's a shame that LG won't unleash its true capabilities. I've been contemplating in whether to get an O4x HD (price is soooo cheap) or just wait for the LG Nexus G (which is most likely what im guna do). Either way, my next phone will be an LG. For some reason, i've becomed very bored with Samsungs, especially with my S3.

LG is going to make a conference on 24-25 oct, hope we'll get some infos about updates
http://lgepr.lge.com/CommonEmailPopup.laf?pageFlag=Notice&sendId=2698*

LG need to much time, they will update.

LG's L40(kitkat) vs P900(ICS).. Cheated by LG

I was reading in news about LG's new low end phone L40 which is going to be launched with kitkat version of android . Here is spec of L40 phone
the L40 has a 1.2 Ghz dual-core processor a smaller screen at 3.5-inches. It also has 4GB of internal storage, but RAM is lesser than the other two(L series phone) at 512 MB. The camera is only a 3-megapixel unit, while the battery size will vary according to markets. The two battery sizes are 1,700mAh and 1,540mAh.
And they are neglecting our P990 which has similar specifications. They should have upgraded our phone first to kitkat which was their flagship phone first.They can not say it doesn't have hardware to support it becoz they themselves are releasing kitkat on same hardware.
BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?

gagan97 said:
BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?
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Money Money Money :thumbup:
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gagan97 said:
I was reading in news about LG's new low end phone L40 which is going to be launched with kitkat version of android . Here is spec of L40 phone
the L40 has a 1.2 Ghz dual-core processor a smaller screen at 3.5-inches. It also has 4GB of internal storage, but RAM is lesser than the other two(L series phone) at 512 MB. The camera is only a 3-megapixel unit, while the battery size will vary according to markets. The two battery sizes are 1,700mAh and 1,540mAh.
And they are neglecting our P990 which has similar specifications. They should have upgraded our phone first to kitkat which was their flagship phone first.They can not say it doesn't have hardware to support it becoz they themselves are releasing kitkat on same hardware.
BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?
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Would you buy it? I mean, seriously dude, it's about selling. They are going to make a few millions on that L40 just because it's brand new, has kitkat and has a screen size like older iPhones. If they would update the "unupdateable" Tegra2 powered, 2-3 years old 2X, then everyone would go around buying second-hand, used 2Xs for 40$ on eBay, instead of going for their new phone.

I'd rather say Google cheated everyone, because Android updates life cycle is too short. There is a bunch of "old" phones with very capable hardware to run KitKat 4.4 and phone manufacturers won't ever update them because they just don't have any legal obligation to do so, we only have to hope their "goodwill" to release drive sources, which isn't the case for our 2x since nVidia and LG don't give a %#@!.
It's kinda sad me to see how a very capable phone gets obsolete by force due the lack of system updates, and I'm not talking only about our O2x.
This also raises other important topic, such as about electronic waste, people are wasting their 2 year phone because they are stuck in Gingerbread limbo.

F. Gacrux said:
I'd rather say Google cheated everyone, because Android updates life cycle is too short. There is a bunch of "old" phones with very capable hardware to run KitKat 4.4 and phone manufacturers won't ever update them because they just don't have any legal obligation to do so, we only have to hope their "goodwill" to release drive sources, which isn't the case for our 2x since nVidia and LG don't give a %#@!.
It's kinda sad me to see how a very capable phone gets obsolete by force due the lack of system updates, and I'm not talking only about our O2x.
This also raises other important topic, such as about electronic waste, people are wasting their 2 year phone because they are stuck in Gingerbread limbo.
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+1, i think the best manufacturer were we can go is sony?? :noidea:
as i can see today sony is the only manufacturer that providing at least the sources for old phones?

I think it's worse that they wont give out all the code needed to optimize and improve the Tegra2 cores for O2X than updating it themselves.
(since they obviously aren't very good at it)

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Would you buy it? I mean, seriously dude, it's about selling. They are going to make a few millions on that L40 just because it's brand new, has kitkat and has a screen size like older iPhones. If they would update the "unupdateable" Tegra2 powered, 2-3 years old 2X, then everyone would go around buying second-hand, used 2Xs for 40$ on eBay, instead of going for their new phone.
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Well they could at least give out a stable ics ota
The official ics update is crap as hell totally unusable, i would have sold this phone but thanks to the wonderful devs of this community I'm still using it ?
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gagan97 said:
I was reading in news about LG's new low end phone L40 which is going to be launched with kitkat version of android . Here is spec of L40 phone
the L40 has a 1.2 Ghz dual-core processor a smaller screen at 3.5-inches. It also has 4GB of internal storage, but RAM is lesser than the other two(L series phone) at 512 MB. The camera is only a 3-megapixel unit, while the battery size will vary according to markets. The two battery sizes are 1,700mAh and 1,540mAh.
And they are neglecting our P990 which has similar specifications. They should have upgraded our phone first to kitkat which was their flagship phone first.They can not say it doesn't have hardware to support it becoz they themselves are releasing kitkat on same hardware.
BTW wats the point of releasing L40 when they had already release same spec phone few years back ?
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That L40 is dumb but no doubt like the L3 it will be a great kids phone.
But our P990 will not get love from LG mine is 2 years old now and it was the last of them to be seen here in New Zealand, most people will break or loose the phone by now why develop for such a small audeince, dont forget our phone only have about 384mb of ram and they do not support NEON instuction either it was meant to be over at 4.2 but TonyP and pengus got us a bit further.
Even if you look at the specs i dont think the L90 would be a good replacement for the P990 mainly because of the price im guessing it will be more than the Nexus 5 which cost now the same amount as the P990 cost me two years ago.

The only thing I guess which create prob in devlopment of official kk is tegra 2.
I do have a 4x and lg has stated that 4x wont get any any further update cause it has tegra 3 and is stuck at jellybean forever!
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nvidia drivers are closed source and they do not update the drivers any more - and the tegra2 does not even support neon-instructions - thats why LG stopped developing
and because the phone now really is too old - i mean, a 3 year old smartphone is already a dinosaur, what other company still develops updates for such old phones?
my next phone will definitely have NO nvidia chip in it, and will be manufactured by sony because of their full open source approach.

akash.mahadeshwar said:
The only thing I guess which create prob in devlopment of official kk is tegra 2.
I do have a 4x and lg has stated that 4x wont get any any further update cause it has tegra 3 and is stuck at jellybean forever!
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i bought O2x to my girlfriend last summer,and that was BIG mistake, she need phone,fast,and...luckily we have our developers that make awesome stuff but still, and than i bought to my self O4x, another mistake...i think that that is last tegra device i EVER buy,this is just unforgivable, devices with a lot potential don't receive updates that they deserve ,i won't put so much blame on lg, because htc one x even won't receive kitkat, because of nvidia(nvidia shame on you,you better stay away from smartphone scene,just make people angry) ...except if K1 go open source,than maybe can be an option for buying,but after that i doubt....almost dead in my book,just sad

akash.mahadeshwar said:
The only thing I guess which create prob in devlopment of official kk is tegra 2.
I do have a 4x and lg has stated that 4x wont get any any further update cause it has tegra 3 and is stuck at jellybean forever!
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In a nutshell, LG + nVIDIA = terrible mistake, total disaster for android.
This is probably the worst combination in android world. LG for its extremely slow system updates schedules and nVIDIA for dropping the support for past SoCs too soon and won't even bother releasing proper documentation or blobs for futher development.

F. Gacrux said:
In a nutshell, LG + nVIDIA = terrible mistake, total disaster for android.
This is probably the worst combination in android world. LG for its extremely slow system updates schedules and nVIDIA for dropping the support for past SoCs too soon and won't even bother releasing proper documentation or blobs for futher development.
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well the annoying thing is that they both are the best companies. LG and nVidia did the gratest things, LG invented the first dual-core phone (our O2X) and the first 4K TV, nvidia invented first 3D Vision on PC's and so on..... They are grate companies but when it comes to who gives less f***ks LG and nVidia are the first :laugh: and they are terrible at software developing. :crying:

Agreed, I have owned my last nvvidia phone.
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The only direct responsible for this situation is nVidia. Those who were in active in this forum the last couple of years know perfectly well how it all went down and, even though it was LG the one who should push updates for the o2x, its always been nVidia that obstructed development efforts due to its notorious closed-source policy. In the end of the day, its perfectly understandable for a company to stop supporting a 3-year old device, considering the silly pace in which mobile tech evolves. Keep in mind that the o2x hasnt been the worst of examples in this area. Even though it still holds the record for longest update holdout (16 months to go from Android 2.2 to 2.3 - even mentioned in Wikipedia) it has seen 2 major OS updates: 2.2 to 2.3 to 4.0. Direct competition doesn't differ too much in this sense (SGS 2.3 to 4.0.4 to 4.1, HTC Thunderbolt 2.2 to 2.3 to 4.0) with some 'flagships' that year seeing much less (see Droid Bionic). We should really be grateful that some amazing devs happened to join this forum and dedicated lots of time and knowledge to maintain this phone and get it where it is right now. It's been some time that i dont use my o2x (passed it on to my gf - still runs great) and moved to an iP4s due to Google's frustrating incapability to write a decent low latency audio API (Apple is the undisputed king there). So even though im not planning to move back to Android before this embarrassing situation is resolved, Im absolutely convinced that ill never, ever buy an nVidia powered phone again, no matter what they come up with. So yes, once more: nVidia, F**k You!

oh no
Not only lg even htc ndivia powered device such htc one x didnt get kitkat update, they have twice power engine than o2x. I think owner of htc one x cry louder than us thanx to nvidia :crying:

This isn't the first time that LG cheats his users.
Just remember the Optimus 3D updates...

Listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g
Linus Torvals complained about Nvidia because of the lack of their support for Linux and Android. I think it was a good opinion that he said what he thinks about that company. For computers, AMD and ATI have a great support for Linux, which is really nice. Too bad I noticed too late what a fault it was to buy an Nvidia pc, too.

BS86 said:
my next phone will definitely have NO nvidia chip in it, and will be manufactured by sony because of their full open source approach.
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Does that mean that you'll get a lot of more or less bug free custom ROMs for them? I'm looking forward to buy a phone which will have better custom ROM support in the future without all those nasty bugs which are related to closed source drivers and hidden hardware information like with this phine (camera bug in 4.4, bluetooth call bugs, gps fix problems caused by software). I am really tired because of all that. I never found any very smooth ROM without all those problems.

cRaZy-bisCuiT said:
Does that mean that you'll get a lot of more or less bug free custom ROMs for them? I'm looking forward to buy a phone which will have better custom ROM support in the future without all those nasty bugs which are related to closed source drivers and hidden hardware information like with this phine (camera bug in 4.4, bluetooth call bugs, gps fix problems caused by software). I am really tired because of all that. I never found any very smooth ROM without all those problems.
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every manufacturer unfortunately has some closed source parts, some more, some less, but some can't be avoided - but yes, sony has the best open source approach and therefore the best custom rom base