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Does the SGS screen suffer from burn-in? And if so, is it permanent?
Yes and yes. Its most likely to happen to the status bar since it is almost always displayed. You can help prevent it by using a launcher that allows you to hide the status bar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_burn-in#Plasma_.26_LCD_.26_OLED
wow thnx for the heads up on this garbage! this peeves me, it betta come with warnings like plasma tvs
The problem really isn't that bad.
Tilting the device sideways sometimes to move the status bar around is plenty to prevent burn in of the status bar.
I've been using a Cowon S9 (AMOLED) everyday since Feb '09 that has static images displayed on it a lot when playing music, and it has absolutely no signs of burn-in.
I've always been under the impression that only CRT can suffer permanent burn-in. On LCD/LED you can get residual image sometimes but it will not be permanent.
I thought the answer to this question would get yes and no answers just like every other SGS issue gets a batch of yes and no's here.
So these dang screens suffer the same as plasma screens of yesterday?! Having to use the SGS differently than other types of devices sounds like another real letdown. The iPhone doesn't have much of a status bar and it's annoying compared to the pulldown status bar of the Evo/Android. In other words, am I the only one who thinks it's no good to have to hide the status bar or any other feature that would be fine on other devices? Not asking for perfection but the SGS does some things better than other devices. It would be nice if it also did all of the other basic things all the other superphones can do like have a status bar always on (without causing damage to the display) because....well......it's a status bar.
There really is no evidence that OLED has burn-in issues and with so many OLED devices out now I've not heard of one instance of it; even the wikipedia article posted here doesn't cite it's sources.
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There really is no evidence that OLED has burn-in issues; even the wikipedia article posted here doesn't cite it's sources.
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I first thought of this after watching a pocketnow.com video in which they said it has happened and that one could just hide the status bar to help prevent this from happening. I don't know why this bothers me, due to the fact that I seem to get knew phones often. Regardless! I would be none too happy if after just a few months I too end up seeing a shadow of the status bar showing up during the boot screens. I'll try to locate that pocket now video.......
The siaplay uses a pentile matrix to reduce the powwibility of burn in. Samsung has already considered this and found ways around it, you dint need to treat the phone any differently.
drizek said:
The siaplay uses a pentile matrix to reduce the powwibility of burn in. Samsung has already considered this and found ways around it, you dint need to treat the phone any differently.
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Well that sounds good to me, let's hope it works out that way.
There's no chance of getting screen burn on a modern mobile phone display, I really don't know why people start rumours like this?
Screen burn is only ever likely to occur on a crt, plasma display or really old lcds. A modern lcd / tft or oled will have no such problems. Even if there was, it would hardly be unique to the sgs...
tameracingdriver said:
There's no chance of getting screen burn on a modern mobile phone display, I really don't know why people start rumours like this?
Screen burn is only ever likely to occur on a crt, plasma display or really old lcds. A modern lcd / tft or oled will have no such problems. Even if there was, it would hardly be unique to the sgs...
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Again this is what they said about the Nexus One. They say they could see the status bar ghost/shadow on the boot screen. I've done a little research now and I do not see any clear answer to this as some say as you do and others say it does happen.
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Again this is what they said about the Nexus One. They say they could see the status bar ghost/shadow on the boot screen. I've done a little research now and I do not see any clear answer to this as some say as you do and others say it does happen.
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That would be contradictory to the way an AMOLED screen works. The term 'burn-in' is actually incorrect for AMOLED screens and is unrelated to the effect seen on plasmas. The problem with AMOLED is the organic nature of the dyes used to create the colours as they fade over time. The blue channel is the worst, but with the latest version they have a life-span of 10-20 years during which they degrade down to about 60-70% of their original intensity.
That's much longer than the typical lifespan of the phone.
Now with a Super AMOLED screen, if the pixel isnt coloured, it isnt lit and powered. So if it has faded and its not enabled, you cant see that its faded. If it is enabled but faded, you'd be very hard pressed to even notice it, because its still showing the right colour.
What you might see after several years of having the screen on all the time is some yellow-ing around the battery and 3G icons on a pure white screen. But thats several years with the screen on in excess of 12 hours a day, with the status bar showing. But I think it's pretty much common sense not to do that.
Oh course, we rely on the technology manufacturers to be honest about their lifespan claims, so only time will tell for sure.
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The pentile matrix fixes this issue, if I understand it correctly.
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The pentile matrix fixes this issue, if I understand it correctly.
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It doesn't stop the dyes from degrading over time, but it might soften the edges of any fading making them less noticeable. Unless there's some other technology associated with the pentile matrix I'm not aware of. ( I design graphics chips, not displays, so I'm just guessing )
I thought I had a "burn in" problem with my 24" iMac but it turns out it's kind of normal, but reversable. It's something to do with exercising the screen elements, and burn-in is more likely to occur on a young screen with least exercised elements. As the screen ages the elements equalise (same amount of exercise on average) and burn-in is less likely, less noticable, and entirely reversable by powering the screen off for a length of time (my iMac's "burn-in" would disappear after being powered down overnight - before which I had not powered it off for weeks).
Anyway, I could be talking out of my proverbial, but that's how I understand it with modern screens.
miker71, your iMac's LCD screen is a very different technology from the OLED screens on the Galaxy S.
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It doesn't stop the dyes from degrading over time, but it might soften the edges of any fading making them less noticeable. Unless there's some other technology associated with the pentile matrix I'm not aware of. ( I design graphics chips, not displays, so I'm just guessing )
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It does, actually. The whole reason why they use pentile is so they can extend the life of the blue pixels. We have seen that t has some negative effect on readability, so obviously the main concern has to be lifetime.
So how about some red colored status bar icons? Is that too hard to do? Not only does it protect the blue pixels, it also reduces power consumption.
lol yea i remember reading that about the red. still these posts have assuaged my fears a bit.
I recently compared my 4 month old Galaxy S-AMOLED display with a recently bought one.. There is visible difference between the maximum brightness in both screens. The newer one looks brighter with better colors when compared to my older Galaxy S. Both are GT-i9000 international version, and I used similar images to compare the screens..
Does the Super AMOLED display deteriorate with time? Also please tell me if this will covered under warranty..
It does deteriorate quite quickly. Especially the blue pixels. Not keeping it on high brightness levels helps the screen deteriorate less quick. And I'm not sure but I had read somewhere that when it comes to "burn in" if the effected area is greater than 8 pixels then you can replace it under guarantee.
Does the Super AMOLED display deteriorate with time? Also please tell me if this will covered under warranty..
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Yes every lcd screen would die one day but Super AMOLED dies with burn in faster, but still would give you 3-5yrs of life.
On daily basis keep the brightness to low or lowest when you need to brighten up put finger on notification bar & slide it to right (bright) slide it to left (dark).
Hope this helps you to get more life from your lcd.
thanx a lot guys.. will go for warranty and let yawl know how it goes..
No this is not another one of those "I've got a screen issue" thread, For those who still have their Galaxy S1/S2 or even a Samsung Wave, how deep are the blacks on the Galaxy Note compared to them?
I ask this since I no longer have any other SAMOLED device aside from the G-Note and I noticed that the black levels are not very deep, infact they are like LCD's with backlit when you view an all black or watch a movie/picture with a good majority of blacks.
Can anyone be so kind as to test and compare in a dark room showing the phone stock test image found under *#0*# ( dialer ) I've been getting reports from other users that the black levels on the G-Note is not as deep as the S1 or S2, Trying to figure out if this is normal or some really bad gamma issue/hardware limits.
Since there has been a HUGE failure of people reading or understanding what this thread is, it is not a complaint thread its more of an inquiry thread on what you are getting with your screen. Those who dont have a previous SuperAMOLED device you guys cannot contribute anything on this thread since you wont have any basis of comparison so please stop trolling.
Darker than a black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night.
Anyone else with a meaningful post comparing the S1/S2 vs the Note in black levels?
Like any other OLED technology, there is no backlight, so the blacks should be as black as if the screen were off.
What you might be noticing is fringing, the light leaking out from the neighboring pixels.
It could also be an optical illusion (you are seeing a black object with lighter surroundings it might make the blacks "not seem as dark"), I tested it myself, I got an opaque piece of paper with a small hole in it and placed it against a black part of an image, and compared it with the screen off. It looked the same to me.
I can't compare it with the S1 or S2 since I don't have them, but with as with any other OLED screen, as long as the black parts of the image is truly digitally black, as in that part of the picture is 000000 on the RGB color model, it should be equally black as if that part of the screen were off.
No difference in the black levels when they are properly rendered on the note vs gs2. The software bug though sometimes makes blacks grey so viewing the same video on both screens dark areas look better on the gs2. This will be fixed with an update and as others have said true black=off with oled so black will be black on any oled screen.
In gallery i get true blacks and images look the same on both screens apart from much bigger and sharper on the note. If i make this image a lock screen its sometimes grey with banding on the now instead of true black.
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Don't know about black, but the screen it's forkin bright, too bright for day time use even on the lowest setting
The Black arent 100% fully black. If you turn the lights lights of you can see some very very deep grey. It black enough tbh, I am not complaining!
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Like any other OLED technology, there is no backlight, so the blacks should be as black as if the screen were off.
What you might be noticing is fringing, the light leaking out from the neighboring pixels.
It could also be an optical illusion (you are seeing a black object with lighter surroundings it might make the blacks "not seem as dark"), I tested it myself, I got an opaque piece of paper with a small hole in it and placed it against a black part of an image, and compared it with the screen off. It looked the same to me.
I can't compare it with the S1 or S2 since I don't have them, but with as with any other OLED screen, as long as the black parts of the image is truly digitally black, as in that part of the picture is 000000 on the RGB color model, it should be equally black as if that part of the screen were off.
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lol wut?
If you have a phone with a SAMOLED screen go to a black room and bring up the LCD test menu, the black is at 000000 and you will see a faint glow, you can very easily tell if the screen is displaying a black color or if the screen is locked. Why websites say their testing machines report infinite contrast ratio is beyond me.
If you cant tell the difference of the screen displaying black and when the screen is locked ( off ) either you got the most absolute perfect screen or you need to actually check rather theory craft.
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No difference in the black levels when they are properly rendered on the note vs gs2.
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The main point of my question is not about "when rendered properly" just bring up the LCD test menu on your galaxy note and galaxy S2 and check if the note has a higher glow on its black levels. mine is extremely high from what I can remember on the Galaxy S2, infact I can label it an an LCD backlight instead of SAMOLED blacks. But if im in daylight the blacks are pretty good.
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The Black arent 100% fully black. If you turn the lights lights of you can see some very very deep grey. It black enough tbh, I am not complaining!
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Its not about complaining, I just wanted to ask for those who have the note and also have the S1/S2 to make a comparison if the black levels are similar.
Im at a loss as to why this feat is extremely hard for the people who replied on the thread so far, I guess I am asking to much.
No one has the S2 and S1 and the galaxy note. why would they? the note is amazing!
Galaxy Note black has more leak than previous Super AMOLED and Super AMOLED Plus screens.
I'll come up with measurements a bit later.
well, Kabayan i have both... i can confirm your finding that S2 does have deeper blacks... last night i viewed the Dota2 trailer video on S2 and Note side by side... @ the beginning of the clip where there are lots of black displayed, its noticeable in my eyes...
I decided to create a pure black wallpaper on photoshop, transfer it to S2 and Note, set both brightness @ max, go to the complete dark room and view the mentioned wallpaper on gallery; its positive that S2's dsplay shows deeper black than Note... Though i have the display tuning app by SUPERCURIO on my S2 which i think we'll also consider...
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Good to hear from you SUPERCURIO... its always a breath for us having you here... So, can we expect some fix? hehehehhe... More power...
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lol wut?
If you have a phone with a SAMOLED screen go to a black room and bring up the LCD test menu, the black is at 000000 and you will see a faint glow, you can very easily tell if the screen is displaying a black color or if the screen is locked. Why websites say their testing machines report infinite contrast ratio is beyond me.
If you cant tell the difference of the screen displaying black and when the screen is locked ( off ) either you got the most absolute perfect screen or you need to actually check rather theory craft.
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An OLED display works without a backlight. Thus, it can display deep black levels and can be thinner and lighter than liquid crystal displays (LCDs). In low ambient light conditions such as dark rooms an OLED screen can achieve a higher contrast ratio than an LCD, whether the LCD uses either cold cathode fluorescent lamps or the more recently developed LED backlight. Due to their low thermal conductivity, they typically emit less light per area than inorganic LEDs.
When the display is "showing" black, the "black pixels" are actually inactive. In other words, the black parts of the screen is off.
The black levels on my screen is also 100% black. If i go into a dark room with a 100% black wallpaper, i won't see the screen.
I have an S1, S2 and Note. Showed all 3 at Samsung service centre just to prove the Note's screen was crap. Should be getting it back to day with a new screen. The S1 screen still seems the best in terms of brightness and uniform white.
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Galaxy Note black has more leak than previous Super AMOLED and Super AMOLED Plus screens.
I'll come up with measurements a bit later.
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Yay supercurio. It's good to see you.
It does have more light leak on pure blacks, but coming from an Atrix (LCD) and an S2 (WVGA), I still love this display the most. The resolution is insane.
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I have an S1, S2 and Note. Showed all 3 at Samsung service centre just to prove the Note's screen was crap. Should be getting it back to day with a new screen. The S1 screen still seems the best in terms of brightness and uniform white.
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Did you happen to get a photo of it?
I compared both with a clear black test screen from walvisions.com min and max brightness blacks where the same to me. I must have a perfect screen or you have a very bad one.
But like i said in my previous post the blacks when actualy in use watching a dark video are much better in the gs2 for what i think is a software issue as they arent rendered properly and dark areas tend to look more like backlit lcd on the note when viewing videos.
Whites are much brighter on the note with min brightness settings then on the gs1.
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An OLED display works without a backlight. Thus, it can display deep black levels and can be thinner and lighter than liquid crystal displays (LCDs). In low ambient light conditions such as dark rooms an OLED screen can achieve a higher contrast ratio than an LCD, whether the LCD uses either cold cathode fluorescent lamps or the more recently developed LED backlight. Due to their low thermal conductivity, they typically emit less light per area than inorganic LEDs.
When the display is "showing" black, the "black pixels" are actually inactive. In other words, the black parts of the screen is off.
The black levels on my screen is also 100% black. If i go into a dark room with a 100% black wallpaper, i won't see the screen.
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It is not true, you really should try it before just quoting wikipedia or whichever website that quote came from. Even with a perfectly black image you can easily tell there is backlight.
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Galaxy Note black has more leak than previous Super AMOLED and Super AMOLED Plus screens.
I'll come up with measurements a bit later.
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The first meaningful post which also aims to be objective rather than quoting specs.
jaytana said:
well, Kabayan i have both... i can confirm your finding that S2 does have deeper blacks... last night i viewed the Dota2 trailer video on S2 and Note side by side... @ the beginning of the clip where there are lots of black displayed, its noticeable in my eyes...
I decided to create a pure black wallpaper on photoshop, transfer it to S2 and Note, set both brightness @ max, go to the complete dark room and view the mentioned wallpaper on gallery; its positive that S2's dsplay shows deeper black than Note... Though i have the display tuning app by SUPERCURIO on my S2 which i think we'll also consider...
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Thank you for confirming, at least someone managed to read through my post and actually perform something.
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An OLED display works without a backlight. Thus, it can display deep black levels and can be thinner and lighter than liquid crystal displays (LCDs). In low ambient light conditions such as dark rooms an OLED screen can achieve a higher contrast ratio than an LCD, whether the LCD uses either cold cathode fluorescent lamps or the more recently developed LED backlight. Due to their low thermal conductivity, they typically emit less light per area than inorganic LEDs.
When the display is "showing" black, the "black pixels" are actually inactive. In other words, the black parts of the screen is off.
The black levels on my screen is also 100% black. If i go into a dark room with a 100% black wallpaper, i won't see the screen.
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This shows me what you know and how much visual acuity you have when it comes to things like this, I mean no disrespect or in anyway be offensive to you but I dont believe that its 100% black on your end. But I respect your opinion. Thank you.
afadzil21 said:
I have an S1, S2 and Note. Showed all 3 at Samsung service centre just to prove the Note's screen was crap. Should be getting it back to day with a new screen. The S1 screen still seems the best in terms of brightness and uniform white.
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Very true, the S1 screen was really great.. it really brought the expectation level at an all time high.
There's a lot of variation on the screens we are getting, my Galaxy Note screen has no color variation, banding, dead pixels, and the blacks are real black. In a dark room, displaying a black image, I can't see the limit between screen and plastic bezel. Exactly as with the screen off.
The same with video playback. I recommend to use BBC One Human Planet trailer in HD. It has a lot of colors and transitions to black screens. I see the screen completly back, no difference to the black plastic bezel.
This is a black Galaxy Note, on a black background displaying a mostly black image. Brightness set to maximum.
Now you tell me you can see the limit between SAMOLED screen and plastic bezel
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There's a lot of variation on the screens we are getting, my Galaxy Note screen has no color variation, banding, dead pixels, and the blacks are real black. In a dark room, displaying a black image, I can't see the limit between screen and plastic bezel. Exactly as with the screen off.
The same with video playback. I recommend to use BBC One Human Planet trailer in HD. It has a lot of colors and transitions to black screens. I see the screen completly back, no difference to the black plastic bezel.
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No color variation is plausible, banding is SW issue so nobody is excepted from it unless you can prove it, dead pixels are pretty rare that its a non issue, black levels are lit let yours eyes adjust to the darkness for 3~5mins and you can clearly see a lit black its always been like that since the SGS1 days, your phone is no exception.
Your screen is perfect for you, I respect that and Im very happy for you, wish I had that screen. Cheers!
Response to your added image:
Your image proves nothing since the discussion is about black levels in total darkness while displaying the black image from the LCD test, your picture shows an image displayed making an illusion that the blacks are very deep, I also get the same black levels when im displaying even just a few pixels of white and you have ambient light since I can clearly see the bezel.
Basically we are comparing 2 different things but thank you for trying.
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black levels are lit let yours eyes adjust to the darkness for 3~5mins and you can clearly see a lit black its always been like that since the SGS1 days, your phone is no exception.
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Seriously who uses a phone like that and whats the point of that test. OLED does show a little light in the dark when you do that but my GS2 and note are pretty much the same, during this test I notice some darker blotches on my gs2 screen. Does that mean its faulty? not to me as Ive never noticed it in real use and thats what the device is for not to sit in the dark for 3 minutes to find some obscure issue to complain about.
There are real screen defects that will occur to some people not matter what device you get, then get it replaced. There are confirmed software issues and these will hopefully be addressed soon enough.
Many more people have no physical issues with their screens then the ones that do but its funny how some people just wont accept that and have to believe every screen is faulty.
Seeing a little light through a screen in total darkness is not a hardware fault, maybe you should turn off your phone as it will save your battery and at the same time the screen will be perfectly dark, I prefer to have my screen on and use it but we all use our devices differently
My Moto X screen looks too yellowish compared to other LCD display phones like Nexus, iPhone's etc. Is it the issue with Moto X's Amoled display or something is wrong with my device?
What you're noticing is just the inherent difference in color reproduction between AMOLED and IPS displays. Most IPS displays have cooler color temperatures and do a better job at producing a true white although with less color saturation.
That being said, I have gone though 2 Moto Xs and the first one came with a very poorly calibrated display and a gross greenish tint. My second one was much better, but I returned it for other reasons, future burn in being one of them. Burn in is different from the problem you're seeing and can best be described as bad tan lines. Some areas of the screen will have different brightness (mostly the nav and notification areas) and it will be obvious when you switch to landscape mode that something isn't right.
If you think something is wrong with your screen and still have a valid warranty, give Motorola a call and let them know about it. They seem to be pretty good about making things right.
No screen burn for me... Had the phone since January and mostly a heavy user too. Maybe no burn because I keep the brightness level down most of the time?
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No screen burn for me... Had the phone since January and mostly a heavy user too. Maybe no burn because I keep the brightness level down most of the time?
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Frankly, it's just a case of not taking care of the fact that we're using OLED tech which is sensitive to static images much like Plasma tech. If you're on Kitkat and use transparent bars like most of us: I can't imagine how anyone could suffer from burn-in that won't go away with time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-dim-screen-moto-white-glove-t2753559
But I did not keep it long enough to notice burn.
No burn in here, but I use fullscreen so I don't have a notification or navigation bar.
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What you're noticing is just the inherent difference in color reproduction between AMOLED and IPS displays. Most IPS displays have cooler color temperatures and do a better job at producing a true white although with less color saturation.
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This is absolutely wrong, no offence. IPS displays do not have any cooler colour temperature! They are less saturated than AMOLED displays mostly, and thus the colours look less vibrant, or more accurate if you will. At the same time they will look extremely dull / pale. If possible just look at the S5's display, it has the best white I have seen in a while, neither yellowish or bluish, near perfect.
And yes, I agree with OP, there is a slight Yellowish tint on mine. This reminds me of the the Galaxy S2's display panel. There is nothing you can do other than getting adjusted with it, but you can try increasing the Blue bias of the screen, to something like +3 or +4. There is an app called Screen Adjuster on Google Play to do that. I am using that now, never thought I would have to use it again since S2 days. By increasing the Blue bias the screen will look little "cooler", the Yellowish white will become Bluish white.
This has nothing to do with burn in by the way.
I should have been more clear about that. It's the backlight source that affects color temp the most. Since most IPS displays use white LEDs for backlighting they appear cooler than many (not all) AMOLED panels and older TN displays using CCFLs. Since the individual pixels are their own backlight with AMOLED there is more variability in color reproduction depending on use and calibration.
And it does have something to do with burn-in. If you have a mostly blue background then those subpixels will see more use than the red and green subpixels. Once the blue subpixels fade enough you're left with a yellow tinted screen. It's not burn-in in the traditional CRT sense, but it's still uneven wear. IMO: The small perks of Active Display are not worth having a screen that can be damaged by normal use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2404256
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I called up Motorola customer care and they asked me to visit nearest service center. They will have a look and decide if anything is wrong in the device. So, this yellowish tint is bit common in Moto X due to AMOLED screen.
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I called up Motorola customer care and they asked me to visit nearest service center. They will have a look and decide if anything is wrong in the device. So, this yellowish tint is bit common in Moto X due to AMOLED screen.
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It can be. There's a member around who got like 4 replacements or something....all with different degrees of it.
I find you don't notice it after a bit.... Unless you put 2 phones side by side.
Personally it doesn't bother me....it would if it was too yellow. I find the dimmer the screen, the more you notice it also.
My first moto x I had since October got burn in around January. I got a new one in June and I have burn in again. It isn't enough to warrant another replacement (yet).
Can someone explain to me how this phone suffers burn in? Burn in is a thing from old CRT televisions, not really the new LED screens (at least, to my knowledge)
i've always used gravitybox to give the statusbar a grayish color instead of black (and here lately the tinted statusbar xposed module) and keep it in expanded desktop with pie controls, so there's no nav bar, and not seeing any burn issues yet, had it since Dec. the horrifically bad burn in on my note 2 is what made me want to be extra careful with the x.
No burn in here after 7 months on mine nor my sister's Moto X.
fargles said:
Can someone explain to me how this phone suffers burn in? Burn in is a thing from old CRT televisions, not really the new LED screens (at least, to my knowledge)
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Burn in is common in amoled type displays, specifically on phones such that rely on a nav bar instead of capacitive buttons. The longer the screen is on, or the higher the brightness, the bigger the possibility for screen burn in . Out of the three amoled phones I have owned, the two that have burnt in both had on screen nav bars. I hope this (non technical) summary helps
Hi,
I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
Svid said:
Hi,
I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
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Both are true.. But I don't have any issues on my device..
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Both are true.. But I don't have any issues on my device..
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I saw some videos on youtube and they said inverting colors from time to time for a certin amount of time helps. This is true?
Svid said:
I saw some videos on youtube and they said inverting colors from time to time for a certin amount of time helps. This is true?
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Also true..
Svid said:
Hi,
I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
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The at&t variant I personally own never gave me these issues. I have read the pink tint issues were associated with the adaptive /automatic brightness enabled?! Yet, on mine I saw no pink with it enabled or disabled.
And there are videos on YT showing burn in. It is basically the soft keys at the bottom. Triangle, circle, and the square are the culprits. But again no issues for me.
Now the very 1st day my phone did a random reboot on me - twice! But, as soon as I unlocked bootloader, rooted it, and used a custom recovery the reboots never surfaced again! Go figure?! And the nexus 6 is definately the fastest performing phone I owned yet
Svid said:
Hi,
I'm planning to get the 64GB Blue Nexus 6 and i have a few questions before i buy:
I heard that the AMOLED Screen have some issues like burns on the screen. Is that true?
Also i heard about "pink" issues with brightness. This is true also?
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AMOLED's can all have that issue, but I personally have never seen it happen (I have had a gnex for almost 2 years which used AMOLED and doesn't have burn-in). The pink "issue" isn't really an issue, google allowed the screen brightness to go extremely dark on the N6. This causes the screen to take on a pink tint simply due to the way amoled's function at that low a brightness. The screen does have a warmer hue to it as well because it is AMOLED, but you can use a custom kernel to tweak RGB values and give the screen a cooler tint. Hope that helps
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AMOLED's can all have that issue, but I personally have never seen it happen (I have had a gnex for almost 2 years which used AMOLED and doesn't have burn-in). The pink "issue" isn't really an issue, google allowed the screen brightness to go extremely dark on the N6. This causes the screen to take on a pink tint simply due to the way amoled's function at that low a brightness. The screen does have a warmer hue to it as well because it is AMOLED, but you can use a custom kernel to tweak RGB values and give the screen a cooler tint. Hope that helps
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Thank you for that useful information mate.
So, all AMOLED's, regardless if it's the N6 or not, suffer from this issue?
Svid said:
Thank you for that useful information mate.
So, all AMOLED's, regardless if it's the N6 or not, suffer from this issue?
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That is correct, all AMOLED's are susceptible to this because of the O in AMOLED, which stands for Organic. The organic compounds that are used in these screens are susceptible to burn in due to the fact that the organic compounds degrade with a lot of use. Of the RGB subpixels, Blue subpixels degrade quickest. However, the N6 uses a Pentile pixel arrangement. This has upsides and downsides, but it is actually an upside as far as this issue is concerned, because the Pentile layout contains less blue subpixels, so there is less susceptibility to burn in.
If you want to combat this issue further, you can use blacked out google apps, and use ROM's with blacked out system options, use a mostly black wallpaper, etc. This is because on an AMOLED screen when the screen is black, the pixels are not displaying any light and thus are not degrading at all. This should reduce your chances of running into the issue. It will also save battery life since the screen is not using as much energy. That is one of the upsides to AMOLED screens, along with the very dark blacks you get in movies and games for the same reason (pixels are not lighting at all). Like I said, I've used other AMOLED screens and not run into this problem as of yet, to my understanding it should take years before you start to see burn in even with normal use. Some people say they have issues right away but that has not been my experience.
All screens of any technology are correctly color calibrated at a given brightness and are very far off at extremes. With an LCD, it will generally be too blue at high brightness and not blue enough at low brightness. That is because the backlights are never a 6500K source. They are basically always bluer than standard.
The Note 4, to pick an AMOLED example, does not get red at very low brightness, but that is because it (according to others) has a higher minimum brightness. My screen takes on a red tint when in a dark room with adaptive brightness enabled if I have the brightness slider set below about 30%. I consider this a handy feature since I don't like the feeling of staring into a light bulb.
Above about 30%, or in a room with a light on, the screen stays normal for me.
I have not seen thecpink issue on my N6 at all.
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That is correct, all AMOLED's are susceptible to this because of the O in AMOLED, which stands for Organic. The organic compounds that are used in these screens are susceptible to burn in due to the fact that the organic compounds degrade with a lot of use. Of the RGB subpixels, Blue subpixels degrade quickest. However, the N6 uses a Pentile pixel arrangement. This has upsides and downsides, but it is actually an upside as far as this issue is concerned, because the Pentile layout contains less blue subpixels, so there is less susceptibility to burn in.
If you want to combat this issue further, you can use blacked out google apps, and use ROM's with blacked out system options, use a mostly black wallpaper, etc. This is because on an AMOLED screen when the screen is black, the pixels are not displaying any light and thus are not degrading at all. This should reduce your chances of running into the issue. It will also save battery life since the screen is not using as much energy. That is one of the upsides to AMOLED screens, along with the very dark blacks you get in movies and games for the same reason (pixels are not lighting at all). Like I said, I've used other AMOLED screens and not run into this problem as of yet, to my understanding it should take years before you start to see burn in even with normal use. Some people say they have issues right away but that has not been my experience.
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Not sure about the bottom paragraph, surely you mean inverted colours? Also If you use a mostly black wallpaper you're more likely go get burn in because the pixels around navigation buttons aren't on at all and are thus not degrading whilst the navigation buttons are fully on and are degrading.
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letom said:
Not sure about the bottom paragraph, surely you mean inverted colours? Also If you use a mostly black wallpaper you're more likely go get burn in because the pixels around navigation buttons aren't on at all and are thus not degrading whilst the navigation buttons are fully on and are degrading.
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Inverted, blacked out, I don't think there's a difference. The button icons themselves will eventually burn in because they are almost always on unless you opt for pie like controls, but like I said that should be over a span of years. A black background will keep everything else from wearing faster though and should give you better battery performance.
I have had the phone for a week now and have not seen either of these issues. I do keep my screen fairly dim, like minimum brightness PLUS a screen dimmer for the nights and early mornings. I do not see any pink what so ever with adaptive brightness off and the minimum setting for brightness. I only turn the screen up when outdoors. I don't know I just find the screen really bright while indoors and I would assume burn in would be more susceptible with higher brightness
So i can safely buy the device right?
Anyway i have to order the phone overseas (No 64GB avalible in my country and the price tag too high anyway).