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Zoom APP in the Market!!

For everyone that havent noticed yet, theres a new app on the market that allows ZOOM on the G1 Camera, now we are only missing a FLASH so we can get great quality pics on night.

What is the name of the app?

BSDADON said:
What is the name of the app?
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CamaraZoom
That's the easy way to find it via search on the market... and cost .99 euro?

You do know that this is digital zoom and not optical zoom, right? You're basically getting a cropped picture. You may as well just take the picture click the zoom button on your viewer...

What's the point of digital zoom that makes the crappy pictures indistinguishable?

MoridinBG said:
What's the point of digital zoom that makes the crappy pictures indistinguishable?
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Nothing.. they're just smaller crappy pictures.
Now, if you really want a zoom, get one of these babies. I got it on e-bay for $13 including shipping and it's the real deal. Plus, you look like a total ubercooldork when you pull it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508175

Ill be happier when they come out with the S60 ability to do "Night Mode" which gave me GREAT pictures in nighttime and so without the flash.

At max zoom you are getting the equivalent of a .5MP photo which means you have an image that is 2048x1526 pixels large and only have 500,000 pixels to fill it. Add to that the fact that the autofocus cant figure out what to do to obtain a decent image and you end up with pictures that are more grainy than the Sahara Desert. This is why I havent added it to snapPhoto. If you want crappy pictures then simply take the image and zoom it with some other app.
Now Flash. You do realise that flash is a hardware thing right? And you do realise that you cant code hardware into something that doesnt have it. I would have thought that was a basic concept but here we are 9 months after launch and people still cant figure that out.
As far as nightmode - on snapphoto it does work, but it cant make light where there is none so if you expect it to make a shot taken in very dark areas to suddenly be like a shot taken in full daylight - think again. All nightmode does is leave the shutter open longer in an attempt to get more light exposure. As a result of this any movement will lead to much blurrier pics.
If you want an example of what can be achieved by someone who takes a little time to play with the settings in my app check out .
http://thecrayonbox.org/files/nightbeach.jpg
Taken with snapphotopro.

Nice with snapphoto. I may try that for the G1. However the Nokia S60 phones have a great night mode. Ive taken alot of pictures with low light and it performed better then my optical digital camera. This was with a Nokia 3650 which isnt even a MP phone (My 2 MP camera was dark photos only)
This was taken at a amusement park on top of the "Eifel Tower" at the twilight night time.
http://www.darkmystics.com/kd/Image(42).jpg
I did a comparison that night between the 2 modes.
http://www.darkmystics.com/kd/Image(43).jpg
Yea it added a green tint, but for when I travel out now, I use my phone all the time. =) (Granted did upgraded to a higher caliber S60 MP camera phone lol)

nolageek said:
Nothing.. they're just smaller crappy pictures.
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i LOLed.

This is a seriously cool camera.
I know its digital zoom but really helps for composition and saves the hassle of cropping later on (say if I take 10 zoomed pictures).
I love Snap Photo too, but Camera ZOOM is the new camera for me - seems a lot of people like it - already top 25 app!
Customisable skins, animations, easy to use and fast ... would definitely recommend.

[Q] Camera not that good?

So compared to my old galaxy skyrocket which has the same camera as the galaxy s2/galaxy s3
the htc one seems like a big step down
htc one: http://i.imgur.com/OgOrVYN.jpg?1
galaxy skyrocket: http://i.imgur.com/DEChRVh.jpg?1
why is it so much worse?
I have tried messing with the exposure levels and it still looks bad
any ideas?

jigglywiggly said:
So compared to my old galaxy skyrocket which has the same camera as the galaxy s2/galaxy s3
the htc one seems like a big step down
htc one: http://i.imgur.com/OgOrVYN.jpg?1
galaxy skyrocket: http://i.imgur.com/DEChRVh.jpg?1
why is it so much worse?
I have tried messing with the exposure levels and it still looks bad
any ideas?
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It has to do with the metering. One is affected because your screen is on in one of the photos and not in the other, so the exposure is affected.
You can Google metering in photography, it can help. Because when you tap to focus...
Ok try this. Go outside and find a tree on a sunny day. Focus on the darkest part of the tree and snap one. Then focus on the sky and snap one. Compare both.
I do believe that's the difference.
Sent from my HTC One

Often I find I have to set focus on a different area than I intended in order to achieve best results. I took a picture yesterday in the garden and it was blue skies and very sunny which meant I had to focus on the sky in order to darken the image, if I'd focused somewhere that was darker or actually where I'd wanted to focus, it would have being overexposed and just look washed out.
When you learn about the camera and how to take pictures with it you really can take some very good shots. Personally though I don't think the low light is all it's cracked up to be, looks as bad as it has on any phone tbh but then I rarely take pictures at night, only dirty ones of my wench and young girls through windows
This pic I think shows somewhat how good the camera can be, boring subject matter lol but I wanted to test the Macro mode ...

AllAboutTheCore said:
Often I find I have to set focus on a different area than I intended in order to achieve best results. I took a picture yesterday in the garden and it was blue skies and very sunny which meant I had to focus on the sky in order to darken the image, if I'd focused somewhere that was darker or actually where I'd wanted to focus, it would have being overexposed and just look washed out.
When you learn about the camera and how to take pictures with it you really can take some very good shots. Personally though I don't think the low light is all it's cracked up to be, looks as bad as it has on any phone tbh but then I rarely take pictures at night, only dirty ones of my wench and young girls through windows
This pic I think shows somewhat how good the camera can be, boring subject matter lol but I wanted to test the Macro mode ...
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Yea the camera is incredible, by far the best I've ever used on a phone. The thing is, if you havent noticed, this phones camera was kinda marketed to be a night life phone. The low light pics at a club or restaurant
But larger pixels means even better st capturing light in regular light, which u noticed makes a huge difference. Especially the added sharpness, exceptionnal. And the macro you took could even be better, you have to spend some time focussing it, I have a dslr, same thing.
Keep trying different types of shots, explore with the metering and white balance... You'll be surprised! You'll be a pro in no time!
Sent from my HTC One

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Moto G4 Plus come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Above average

is it that good?
I keep seeing reviews and comments talking about the great quality of this camera (above the average, at the level of high end...), however, my phone does not cope very well with some situations and I do not know why. Is it defective? is it low light? I am going to post some images but right now I am going to describe the behaviour.
For some reason the main camera struggles a lot when taking pictures of thing in movement. I does not expect a shutter speed of 1/1000 but I cannot make my son to be more steady either. The image seems focused except the moving part which is always blurry. This happens in low light but also in conditions which I consider good light (exteriors, rooms with 25W LED + side lamp...)
The front camera IMHO does not deserve any compliment, it struggles a lot to focus, more than half the pictures are blurry and/or out of focus, most of them have a lot of noise like in low light. It is a bit better after turning on the flash in screen but, again, is this normal?
I will thank any comment on this.
Picture 1_room_with_side_ window_light.jpg: Room with a side window where you do not need to turn the lights on for things like writing or sewing.
Pictures 2 and 3 has very good light in my opinion and the camera struggles.
4 and 5 are made with the front camera and both are below the standard IMHO.
1of3isgood shows how I needed 3 pictures to take one OK
sunlight shows how the camera struggel even with sunlight in the scene
whatIexpect are 2 very good photos this is what I expect
I have to say, the camera is at least VERY inconsistent on it results. It is capable of a lot but it only demonstrates some times
What do you think?

I honestly think that the camera on the Moto G could have been much better. I like the camera APP interface itself, but the photo quality is mediocre. Aside from picture quality, anyone notices their camera lens getting scratched up? Mine is.

You're right.
foxaxel said:
I keep seeing reviews and comments talking about the great quality of this camera (above the average, at the level of high end...), however, my phone does not cope very well with some situations and I do not know why. Is it defective? is it low light? I am going to post some images but right now I am going to describe the behaviour.
For some reason the main camera struggles a lot when taking pictures of thing in movement. I does not expect a shutter speed of 1/1000 but I cannot make my son to be more steady either. The image seems focused except the moving part which is always blurry. This happens in low light but also in conditions which I consider good light (exteriors, rooms with 25W LED + side lamp...)
The front camera IMHO does not deserve any compliment, it struggles a lot to focus, more than half the pictures are blurry and/or out of focus, most of them have a lot of noise like in low light. It is a bit better after turning on the flash in screen but, again, is this normal?
I will thank any comment on this.
Picture 1_room_with_side_ window_light.jpg: Room with a side window where you do not need to turn the lights on for things like writing or sewing.
Pictures 2 and 3 has very good light in my opinion and the camera struggles.
4 and 5 are made with the front camera and both are below the standard IMHO.
1of3isgood shows how I needed 3 pictures to take one OK
sunlight shows how the camera struggel even with sunlight in the scene
whatIexpect are 2 very good photos this is what I expect
I have to say, the camera is at least VERY inconsistent on it results. It is capable of a lot but it only demonstrates some times
What do you think?
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Not good as described in media
The photo quality is not as described. Image stabilization seems just not there are or not working properly.
Photo quality is good only if still photos are taken during day time with more light in. That is all.
But for the cost of around $200 its a good phone but not a camera phone.

How do I access camera debug options?

As far as I'm concerned the camera quality is really above average. Your problem seems to find his cause elsewhere.
To keep it simple, your photos may be blurry because of the lack of light indoor. Smartphone are known to have small objective (while real camera have big one) that can't gather a lot of light by themselve. It means that you'll have to sacrifice quality if the environnement is not well lit. In this case, you're phone try to make up for the lack of light by gathering more light before taking the photo which cause a more blurry photo. You can also manually set it to take it faster but you'll have to use a higher iso (which mean more noise).
If you want a good photo you need :
- light (even for a galaxy S7)
- A good objective (also the bigger the better but we're on a smartphone so...)
- A clean objective (I can't stress how this matter ! Even more if we consider that it's really use to put à finger on the objective of the moto g4)
Here you go, hope it helped, if you want to test your camera to see if it has some problem you should do it outdoor with the sun at zenith and some cloud to avoid bad shadows and blinding effects.

kayet95 said:
As far as I'm concerned the camera quality is really above average. Your problem seems to find his cause elsewhere.
To keep it simple, your photos may be blurry because of the lack of light indoor. Smartphone are known to have small objective (while real camera have big one) that can't gather a lot of light by themselve. It means that you'll have to sacrifice quality if the environnement is not well lit. In this case, you're phone try to make up for the lack of light by gathering more light before taking the photo which cause a more blurry photo. You can also manually set it to take it faster but you'll have to use a higher iso (which mean more noise).
If you want a good photo you need :
- light (even for a galaxy S7)
- A good objective (also the bigger the better but we're on a smartphone so...)
- A clean objective (I can't stress how this matter ! Even more if we consider that it's really use to put à finger on the objective of the moto g4)
Here you go, hope it helped, if you want to test your camera to see if it has some problem you should do it outdoor with the sun at zenith and some cloud to avoid bad shadows and blinding effects.
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Thanks for your answer kayet95. The main point is that the camera is not reliable enough and you end up taking 5 pictures each time just to be sure one will be fine. Of course with the lighting you suggest the camera does well, it would be a complete rubbish if not, but take a look at my attachment sunlight. The window was fully open, there where sun coming into the scene and the camera struggled once.
I agree the camera is capable of taking great pictures, but it is nor reliable.

My experience is that the camera in G4Plus is above average for a phone. I think that who expects more is delusional, you need to buy a real camera to take good pictures - in low light or with any level of zoom.

One that I clicked this morning
just wanting to share a photo taken by my Moto G4 plus .
No special Arrangement , everything on Auto

I love this camera.... Sunny day and auto mode....
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Another one. Raining and almost running by night. Just shot under the rain.... lot of noise but the connditions were really bad!!

SoNic67 said:
My experience is that the camera in G4Plus is above average for a phone. I think that who expects more is delusional, you need to buy a real camera to take good pictures - in low light or with any level of zoom.
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I agree 100%. :good:
This camera is very good for a phone camera, especially one of this price. To expect high quality pix from it in every lighting or motion situation is simply ludicrous.

Two more photos:
One tree
Royal Palace, Madrid, Spain

the color quality is good, but sometimes i cant take a picture, might be my hand is wet, or the phone lagging

The camera is capable of good pictures, however mine seem inconsistent. Sometimes take the same shot a couple times to get good one, even in good lighting. I upgraded from last year's moto g, and consistently got excellent pictures with it.
Overall I feel the camera on the g4 plus isn't quite as good as last year's moto g. I was really expecting better.

hi , i use OpenCamera and it`s much better.

Motion blur in pictures

Hi,
As a fairly new father I am taking a lot of pictures of my daughter.
In still shots the phone is fine but when she is moving, which can be quite a lot I am getting lot's of pictures of blurry arms and feet.
My wife says my new phone is rubbish and I should return it because of this, compared to her iphone 6 which takes perfect pictures of moving arms and legs with zero blur.
To be honest I never had a phone cause so much blur with the standard automatic mode...before this my P9 took pictures in the same circumstances with zero blurry limbs and my Lumia 950xl was perfect taking pictures of my dog.
Does anyone else have blur with moving people or animals?
Any tips on how I can avoid this problem?
I have turned off HDR and flash to try and reduce the time needed for each photo but I need to take photo's fast some times and don't have time to mess around in the settings.

Its not really a fault of the camera or the phone, it is attempting to get a correctly exposed shot with the light available and if there is a lot of movement in poor light the bits that are moving get blurred due to a slow shutter speed.
You might want to try using the colour sensor only although it is well known the camera app is a bit crap, you could try another like Camera Zoom FX etc.

Cheers for the reply,
I have opencamera installed but didn't really use it much so I'll give that a test over the next few days.

shaunydub said:
Hi,
As a fairly new father I am taking a lot of pictures of my daughter.
In still shots the phone is fine but when she is moving, which can be quite a lot I am getting lot's of pictures of blurry arms and feet.
My wife says my new phone is rubbish and I should return it because of this, compared to her iphone 6 which takes perfect pictures of moving arms and legs with zero blur.
To be honest I never had a phone cause so much blur with the standard automatic mode...before this my P9 took pictures in the same circumstances with zero blurry limbs and my Lumia 950xl was perfect taking pictures of my dog.
Does anyone else have blur with moving people or animals?
Any tips on how I can avoid this problem?
I have turned off HDR and flash to try and reduce the time needed for each photo but I need to take photo's fast some times and don't have time to mess around in the settings.
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Change your wife and problem solved?

ben_linux said:
Change your wife and problem solved?
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LMAO!

Haha,
Sadly I will still have the challenge with pictures of moving things.

shaunydub said:
Cheers for the reply,
I have opencamera installed but didn't really use it much so I'll give that a test over the next few days.
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Trouble is comparing it with an iPhone isn't going to help either, i think the camera in the Nokia 8 gets a bad rap but clearly it cant compete with an iPhone which are known for having great cameras.

MrBelter said:
Trouble is comparing it with an iPhone isn't going to help either, i think the camera in the Nokia 8 gets a bad rap but clearly it cant compete with an iPhone which are known for having great cameras.
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For sure, but I had a lot of phones with camera's over the years and didn't get blur as bad as this guy.
iphone 6 is 3 years old so I would expect it to produce better photo's than that (ignoring the blur factor), when I had my Lumia 950XL my wife was amazed at how good the photo's looked compared to her iphone.
If I can just find a better camera app than the default one it can be ok.

But did you try Google Camera on the dev section ? the BSG, Cstark or Arnova one ? There is zero shutter lag like Pixels, and it's very good.
You can't compete with Lumia 950XL though. Still a king after these years and incredible in low light

shaunydub said:
For sure, but I had a lot of phones with camera's over the years and didn't get blur as bad as this guy.
iphone 6 is 3 years old so I would expect it to produce better photo's than that (ignoring the blur factor), when I had my Lumia 950XL my wife was amazed at how good the photo's looked compared to her iphone.
If I can just find a better camera app than the default one it can be ok.
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Age has nothing to do with it though, a good camera is a good camera, my (now little used) Canon 20D is 14 years old and still takes a cracking photo.
The f2 aperture is the weak point on the Nokia 8, even my Moto G5 Plus has an f1.7 aperture and sadly Nokia cant do anything to change that other than force the camera to shoot with a higher ISO and therefore a faster shutter in low light.

Use the google camera app. Turn on "HDR+ Enhanced" and you should not get blurry photo in decent/good light. A bit of delay per shot but you'll get great image.
The phone still gives up in low light, however.

Bit late here, but I have the same issue. I think the camera is ****. Even my old phones (and cheaper phones are significantly better at capturing moving targets). Really disappointed. Got new kitten, 1 in 10 photos is keepable. Even in bright light. It just takes way too long to focus, often missing the moment altogether.

shaunydub said:
Hi,
As a fairly new father I am taking a lot of pictures of my daughter.
In still shots the phone is fine but when she is moving, which can be quite a lot I am getting lot's of pictures of blurry arms and feet.
My wife says my new phone is rubbish and I should return it because of this, compared to her iphone 6 which takes perfect pictures of moving arms and legs with zero blur.
To be honest I never had a phone cause so much blur with the standard automatic mode...before this my P9 took pictures in the same circumstances with zero blurry limbs and my Lumia 950xl was perfect taking pictures of my dog.
Does anyone else have blur with moving people or animals?
Any tips on how I can avoid this problem?
I have turned off HDR and flash to try and reduce the time needed for each photo but I need to take photo's fast some times and don't have time to mess around in the settings.
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Slow/blurry focus is already a common problem on Nokia 8. You can install the Google Camera to resolve the problem. It also comes with some new features (such as motion picture) which is currently and exclusively on Google Pixel 2 camera as well.??
Let's check out the following posts for details:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-8/themes/modded-google-camera-hdr-nokia-8-t3713411
Google Camera port download page:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/

Camera Settings and Taking Photos

Ive seen some of the photos that other people have taken with the P20 Pro and they look amazing.
I'm no professional photographer and don't pretend to be one. I just want to take photos of my children when on holidays, days out, events and birthdays etc.
Every photo I take seems like a good shot, until you zoom in on the photo, then the image becomes pixelated. Another thing that seems to happen a lot is colour fading, every shot looks washed out or like it's lacking vibrant colours.
I've got the Huawei P20 Pro mainly because the camera was classed as the current best in mobile phones. I feel like I either don't understand the camera or that doing something wrong.
Could anyone offer any advice.

Depends on shooting mode and how much light you have. If I try to shoot in Aperture Mode in low light, I get pixelated photos as well. From my 1 month experience with the phone, I can tell you the camera is far inferior to that of other current flagships (especially when shooting pictures of people), mostly because of software overprocessing. It will usually oversharpen the crap out of everything (especially when using the 3x zoom lens) and will destroy skin texture (regardless of beauty mode selection). I get wildly inconsistent quality across. While some pictures end up fine, most will look a lot better on-screen than on a computer. Also, the pictures will almost always be brightened after processing, which means that what you're seeing on screen when taking a picture is not how the final photo will look. I'm coming from a Samsung S7 and its camera provided very predictable (and sometimes maybe even better than Huawei's) results, where what I saw on screen is what I got. I'm quite disappointed by this phone. They really need to fix their software, but I doubt they'll ever do that.

I tend to just use the standard AI and have got (IMHO) some lovely pics without filters or tinkering. I've started an Instagram of some of my favourite P20 Pro pics - not sure if we are allowed to link to them on here these days ?

That's what I've been doing recently and they seem better than before.
I think we can link pictures as it's not advertising.

bu44er said:
That's what I've been doing recently and they seem better than before.
I think we can link pictures as it's not advertising.
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https://www.instagram.com/stuartsphotomix/
I've just started adding a few of (what I consider to be) my best shots.

I will admit, those are some nice photos.
I think I'm going to take some outside shots tomorrow and see what they turn out like.
I'll gladly share them with you, for comparison purposes.

I have the P20 Pro since few months and i compare it with S9, S9+, Pixel 2 and IPhone X, i assure you that this device have one of the best phone's camera in 2018, you can also look in the DXOMark that is the TOP-1, i came from Galaxy S7, and S7 have a good camera very similar with S8 and S9, but the versatiliy of the P20 Pro is far from them, also if you take pictures in sunny days with the 40mpx sensor, you will see that looks like a professional camera, its true that sometimes the IA is overworking the scene, but you can disable on the screen easy

If you want camera samples, you can just check this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...hotos-huawei-p20-pro-share-fantastic-t3774488

don't using 4000w