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So these seem to be my options for phones atm... can someone give me an honest no bs suggestion on which would be the best way to go with this....
its an upgrade on my phone, so contract re signing....
but coming off the desire z...
Cheers
If you can wait and afford it, get the Galaxy S 2 or Sensation
and whats going to make those so much better then the above listed phones
The are both dual core (SGSII is tegra, Sensation is Qualcomm), the sensation has a higher res screen (qHD) and they both have 4.3" screens, sensation has the newer version of sense
Question is, will Canada be getting the HTC
LG Optimus 2X or IS?
I assume the HDH is the HTC Desire HD?
If so, I own all three of these phones and have some feedback for you. The Atrix has the best hardware of the lot (by a mile), but is let down by weak software (Motoblur) and capped upload speeds. The screen on the Atrix is quite good, but I find it a bit washed out. As for the dual-core processor, it is screaming fast, but there is very little software optimized to make use of the processor.
As for the Incredible S and Desire HD, both are quite similar and the main differences are the 4.3" screen on the HD compared to 4" on the IS as well as a front facing camera on the IS. In the real world, the lack of a dual core processor is not apparent today as these two felt as fast as the Atrix. I prefer the HTC Sense to the Motoblur (plus the fact that neither of these capped upload speeds like the Atrix), so overall my preference would be either of the two phones. I found the form factor of the 4" IS was more to my liking as I could use it one handed and hence I'll be sticking to the IS for some time (at least till the HTC dual cores come out). I really wanted to like the Atrix, but I just couldn't live with it's deficiencies.
BTW, both the Atrix and IS have locked bootloaders, so if you want to play with custom ROM's, the Desire HD would be your only choice.
At first I will choose HTC, and then, in HTC, I think Sensation is really great, no matter duo-core or the resolution of screen, or the newest sense.
Can someone please suggest me If i shoud purchase HTC Incredible S or should i wait for HTC Sensation. I have heard of all the talk stating HTC Sensation being loaded with Sense 3.0 while Incredible S may get a limited update to Sense 3.0.
I would also like to know if Skype is available for download on HTC incredible S?
Thanks..would really appreciate the help
Numair
I have Skype on mine (though there is no video calling).
Personally I would wait for the Sensation now, if you're willing to pay the extra. Which isn't to say that the IS isn't a good phone, because it is, but you might as well get the latest and greatest if you have the choice. The Sensation will have more fancy animations and such.
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I would go with the Samsung Galaxy S II instead of the Sensation. HTC is locking the bootloader on the Sensation and who knows how long it'll take someone to crack it. I also like how the Galaxy S II has 16GB of internal storage already as well as more RAM.
Doctorsax,
There is no video calling? then y does it have a front cam? isnt that for video calling? jeez!..i thought it had video calling...but then i guess u r right..its betta to wait for Sensation...hopefully that wud be out soon..Thanks for ur reply
Doctorsax,
Hey can u plz explain me whats bootloader? and isnt Samsung Galaxy S2 too huge in size? i mean does it fit in ur pocket? ...and i read that the battery life of samsung galaxy s2 isnt good..but once again different ppl different opinions....
Well price is not that big of a difference, so sensation would be a nice choice if you really want HTC. As Someone else sais, Samsung galaxy s2 is deffinatly worth watching at too!
dont buy a sensation! im pretty sure the battery of sensation would be really bad. its a tradition of HTC from winmo -> android in last 10 years. the first piece of any hardware change got bad battery. a recent example would be inc S battery gets 2X using time than battery on DHD.
Wait to get a HTC Sensation 2, I bet you sensation2 would be a masterpiece.
Well sensation 2.0 would take sooo long to come..and by then we might have other phones lined up and i will end up waiting for them too ..hehehe
I guess samsung galaxy S2 is really good? but i hope it fits in the pocket..lollll..any idea bout battery life on that one?? n i guess the price wud be so much!
Also been considering 3 devices mentioned - SII, IS & Sensation....
- Samsung is pro with the battery, unlocked Bootloader...design is a bit plastic...but it depends
- IS is for the ones that want to use phone purely as is....with minimal customization environment provides
- Sensation Battery worries me, however in case it will be updated to latest 2.4 with Dual Core optimizations etc might stand a chance. When will this happed though ?
Sad thing is locked bootloader on both HTC, didn't know that is wide spreaded ...but in case you are within reasonable demands user - this is the optimal choice....
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Also been considering 3 devices mentioned - SII, IS & Sensation....
- Samsung is pro with the battery, unlocked Bootloader...design is a bit plastic...but it depends
- IS is for the ones that want to use phone purely as is....with minimal customization environment provides
- Sensation Battery worries me, however in case it will be updated to latest 2.4 with Dual Core optimizations etc might stand a chance. When will this happed though ?
Sad thing is locked bootloader on both HTC, didn't know that is wide spreaded ...but in case you are within reasonable demands user - this is the optimal choice....
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Thanks a lot for your detailed reply..really appreciate it..But can u plz explain me whats Bootloader? I have been a Nokia user all my life. So i have no idea what bootloader means...Currently im stuck up wid Nokia N900..the fone's a flop :-(
i would sell my IS if sensation comes out..but sadly..i dont like 4.3" screen...it is too big for me..
rooting? i own a xtc clip..so i pretty much don't care.
You think a 4.3" screen wud fit into our pockets? hehe
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i would sell my IS if sensation comes out..but sadly..i dont like 4.3" screen...it is too big for me..
rooting? i own a xtc clip..so i pretty much don't care.
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Bro, how much i need pay to u if want u root my IS with xtc clip?. Where is ur location shop?.
Actually I think Sensation is much better than Incredible S
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Can someone please suggest me If i shoud purchase HTC Incredible S or should i wait for HTC Sensation. I have heard of all the talk stating HTC Sensation being loaded with Sense 3.0 while Incredible S may get a limited update to Sense 3.0.
I would also like to know if Skype is available for download on HTC incredible S?
Thanks..would really appreciate the help
Numair
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Sense 3.0 ports for single core devices are looking promising!
but if you are going to be on stock for awhile and want some power, i suggest holding out for the sensation.. or by then, the IS price will fall and it can help you make your mind up
Do not buy a Incredible S, it sucks! Is just a scrap phone for a lot of money! It sucks in ALL!
hmmm really????
can someone plz explain me what does root by xtc clip mean?
First, HTC said they will not lock bootloader hereafter. However, they never said when they will unlock current phones. Fingers crossed.
For video call, you can always install Tango from market. Personally, I prefer Tango over Skype.
In turn, the mentioned reasons shouldn't affect choosing Inc S or Sensation, or other brand phones.
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My Incredible S sucks ! I also have an HD2 with Android inside which is a lot better, more powerful and more compatible with many applications. I'm a bit disappointed because for example I cannot use Skype and Sip applications. Trying to call via this phone with these kind of applications is impossible. Battery consumption is a lot faster than the HD2. And sound reception call quality is pretty bad. Sometimes, it seems I'm talking in a conduit or a tunnel. Many echos ...
Hey guys,
I'm currently choosing either the sensation or the inc. s as my next phone.
opinions?
- i heard sensation is a little laggy/buggy and that is has wifi issues. (i use wifi ALOT)
- also heard the sensation's screen is a bit more "washed out"
- sensation is more future proof, and has a better design overall. (imo)
- i prefer the 4" screen of the incredible, but not the back design. (maybe i'll get used to it though!)
- audio quality is important (through headphones)
thanks for the help
sensation and incredible s is both being offered at the same $0 on a 3 year so price difference is not an issue.
i'm also not interested in rooting/modding
I think the Incredible is enough, if you prefer the larger screen (4.3"), should be choice Sensation. Because the dual chip of sensation is less quality compare with Galaxy S2...
If both cost the same and its a 3 year contract, go for sensation. Sent future proof with the dual core.
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personally go for Incredible S
commercially go for sensation .
its the choice you make .......
Is go for the sensation myself.
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Pick your pros and cons
Mine:
Sensation
pros: - Dual core (It'll last awhile but honestly.. i dont think any phone will last a while at the rate they're currently coming out!)
- Since you don't like to root.. you'd get sense 3.0 instead of what's currently on the incredible and I'd assume that you'd get more updates on the sensation
I wish I could help you more but I've honestly never had or even played with the sensation yet.. (I've only had the incredible S and would LOVE the sensation)
Incredible S
pros: - 4" Screen (I love 4" I don't like any bigger)
The cost (It's cheaper here in Canada (~250-300), as opposed to sensation (~$500)
- I like the back! Phone will also last a while!
Yeah.. I don't have too much reasons, I don't even have both the phones anymore (Just sold off my incredible S for the Motorola atrix and DAMN I REGRET IT motoblur is absolutely terrible.. I've rooted it but I still hate the UI and everything. I have to really focus the 5MP camera on the atrix to get a good solid picture, the incredible s takes pretty solid pictures without trying to focus!)
If I were you.. I'd go for the sensation
a) It's worth more
b) It's better in most ways
c) thats it sorry!
Well I have been in this Chaos for the last one month and thats the reason I didnt buy any ..lol..
HTC Incredible S compared to Sensation:
1) Compact perfect size
2) Very good battery life
3) Expensive for its specs. I mean only abt 100$ price difference from Sensation.
4) Laggy on some HD games like I played Avatar on it and it laggy.. not smooth
HTC Sensation:
1) official full sense 3.0
2) Dual core (future Proof)
3) Touch screen issues
4) Worst battery life. (poorer than DHD)
5) Massive size
The main reason I dont like Incredible S is because its not future proof and I had the HTC Desire and its not very fast comapred to that. Just slightly better
The Reason I dont like Sensation is coz it has worst battery life and not as fast as other Dual core phones.
why not GSII ?
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Lack of Sense, Lack of Good build..
Same agenda... Grunt...
I'd go sensation, or if you're able to wait a little longer, hang on till the next device is released whether that be the holiday, bliss or kingdom
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For the same price I would choose Sensation, without hesitation.
Incredible S : CM7
I almost went for a sensation but 2 things stopped me:
Screen problems - widely reported all over the net, check out the 106+ page thread in the Sensation forum IIRC, still no effective solution to solve it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129272
Price (UK) - Currently, for a limited time - Carphonewarehouse are selling the Inredible S for 270ish which is imo a great deal (hence i bought it).
If you can wait, wait otherwise imho - you can't go wrong with IS
thanks for the replies everyone
leaning towards the incredible s after hearing about several issues withthe sensation as well as the smaller 4" screen. i hope sense 3.0 (minus the 3d animations) come to inc s though
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thanks for the replies everyone
leaning towards the incredible s after hearing about several issues withthe sensation as well as the smaller 4" screen. i hope sense 3.0 (minus the 3d animations) come to inc s though
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check this out....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122805
Thinking ahead, there will be a sad day when my trusty Incredible S kicks the bucket. So I've started looking for comparable phones seeing as I love this one so much, and my basic requirements are 4" screen size and hopefully HTC unless I can be convinced otherwise (I love Sense).
I think the Desire X is looking pretty great and is at the top of my list so far. http://www.htc.com/au/smartphones/htc-desire-x/
Any other suggestions? Or what will you be getting?
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Nexus , sgs3, one x
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Probably the next nexus, next top of the line Sony, samsung, or HTC
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Superfasty said:
Thinking ahead, there will be a sad day when my trusty Incredible S kicks the bucket. So I've started looking for comparable phones seeing as I love this one so much, and my basic requirements are 4" screen size and hopefully HTC unless I can be convinced otherwise (I love Sense).
I think the Desire X is looking pretty great and is at the top of my list so far. http://www.htc.com/au/smartphones/htc-desire-x/
Any other suggestions? Or what will you be getting?
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I would advise against the Desire X as a replacement for the Inc S. It probably wouldn't me much of an upgrade, if at all. The Desire X does have an S4 processor, but it's the lowest end S4 available and is nowhere near the performance levels of the S4's you find in the One X/S, North American GS3 etc. It also uses a significantly older CPU architecture in the Cortex A5, whereas our phone has a Cortex A8 CPU and modern dual cores/quad cores are based on the Cortex A9. The latest S4 processors are loosely based off the Cortex A15 which hasn't been released to the masses yet.
TLDR; Go with a Nexus phone or a higher end HTC than the desire X
Personally, I won't buy another HTC phone until they release a phone with on-screen buttons and 2GB of RAM. I'm hoping they make a phone like that, I really want another HTC.
I like Xperia S.
SGS3 though I don't see my IncS dying anytime soon lol. Ganna have to wait till my contact ends in 2013 Aug. Even then I think I'd be happy with SGS3 though new and better phones would be out by that time lol
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Agree, don't buy HTC desire x
I honestly think it's not an upgrade.
I am actually thinking of xiaomi phone haha, can't wait for the review once it's out. Another option is HTC one x
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I like the Sony nxt series the xperia t or the v
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I like the Sony nxt series the xperia t or the v
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I like xperia v.
Retina display, more responsive touch, water resistance, dual core beast, and 13 mp camera
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My next phone is going to be an htc one X. Nice phone and I'll still have text reflow.
I wonder why text reflow is not implemented by default into Android.
Thanks for the info. Yeah I understand it wouldn't be much of an upgrade if I chose the Desire X, but I love the incredible s so much I wanted something similar. I really don't want anything larger than 4", I have my Nexus 7 for things that require a larger screen so that seems to limit my options to mid-range phones these days.
ZaySk.. that's crazy that it uses older CPU architecture than the IncS :s why on earth would they do that?
maybe an iphone5?
Nah
I know you will hate me but my next phone is Nokia Lumia 920 I really liked it and very interested in New WinPhone8 OS
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I don't hate you, those new Nokia windows phones look awesome
Just that with windows phone 7, they didn't update after 7.5 to 8.0
Its like us being updated from 2.3.3 to 2.3.5, but not receiving 4.0
At least we had custom ROMs
Until Microsoft can prove that they care about older devices, I won't be buying windows
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Well I have one more year of warranty, so guess if it dies it will be a replacement.
But if it die maybe an HTC One S.Don't like the size of the X.In fact I'd like something 4'..
This with HTC quality, replaceable battery + micro sd would be perfect
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Well I have one more year of warranty, so guess if it dies it will be a replacement.
But if it die maybe an HTC One S.Don't like the size of the X.In fact I'd like something 4'..
This with HTC quality, replaceable battery + micro sd would be perfect
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I have always liked the meizu mx, best looking phone on the market imo
If it had dev support I might have bought one
I look at all these new phones, but in reality I'm not getting one until like may next year
Venom and project x transformer will add life to our device
And if we get proper source built jb with the 3.x linux kernel, that will too
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Mmm the Windows phones do look slick but, like Markj said, Microsoft and Nokia's lack of support for their older products means I won't be getting one.
The next htc android flagship or the next nexus phone
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I'm currently thinking of buying a Galaxy Nexus. It's pretty cool and my IncS is about to get its USB-Port broken but I can still sell it to my brother when it's working. But I'm not sure. A One X would be the best thing that could happen to me but I really cannot afford that. I just hope my IncS doesn't let me down so soon...
For anyone who is on XDA a few years and previously owned a HD2 or Leo as it was also known I'm wondering if the One will become as legendary or even surpass the HD2?
The HD2 was a revelation as developers could do so much with it, the HD2 forums used to be a hive of activity and i remember the first time developers managed to flash android on what was a Windows 6.5 phone we thought it was amazing, given the one is looking like it's gonna be very very popular let's hope some of the developers come onboard and make this phone even better.
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Short answer? Yes.
The HD2 is still an awesome phone. Even stock it's still very competent at what it does 3+ years after its release.
What it can't achieve in stock mode you can accomplish whatever is left by booting into Droid.
Where can phone specs go after the HTC One?
11? The One already does 11.
HTC HD2 was one of the first if not the first phone that had all at once:
- capacitive (glass) screen
- big screen
- somewhat open architecture, so you can install other OS
- powerful CPU (although that is relative in time)
- good design
- ability to run Android (cool OS) while it originally run Windows (meh OS)
HTC One is not that special. Not even close. It can be remembered as one of the most pretty phones, but not more.
I lost my S3 and luckily there was an unused HD2 lying around the house. Wow, amazing phone. After all these years it's still awesome. I tryied out WP8 on it, works flawlessly; might try out android soon with dual boot.
The phone just looked good, even after all these years it's not outdated at all, the design is amazing and the components are top notch. Really great work. Let's hope the One can do the same
It was hampered with only 512mb ram - It was full in no time with android on it. I tried running it from sd card but it was stuttery.
The Tmobile 1gb might have been a different story - But for me it's a bit over hyped
I believe that at this time, owning any flagship except Xperia Z (it's great, but many mediocre parts lead to being unimpressive for some) will make almost anybody happy, whether S4, GPro, One or upcoming phones.
However, the bad production and marketing cannot make One fly. True story.
Ok about marketing, even HTC said they will put more effort, but still no where near the huge amount of endowment from Samsung, for sure.
But production is a bigger problem. Choosing aluminum is not wrong for the quality of product itself, but a bad idea for production.
No matter how good the One is or becomes, it will never top the HD2.
It was so far ahead of its time it was unreal, held down by Windows Phone, I am pretty sure it ran Android better than my Sensation ever did and of course it could run whatever it wanted.
The HD2 was unrivaled, but the One has the S4 and the Xperia ?something? with the same chipsets.
I love my One tho!
No.
When the HD2 came out, it was really different & powerful compared to what was available, but with the HTC One, there are many close competitors. The S4, LG, iPhone5, Xperia Z, HTC's own DNA/Butterfly.
The HTC One is a great phone, but it is NOT considerably better than the competition.
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It was hampered with only 512mb ram - It was full in no time with android on it. I tried running it from sd card but it was stuttery.The Tmobile 1gb might have been a different story - But for me it's a bit over hyped
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You do understand that HD2 was released 3 and a half years ago, right? How can be over hyped if it can run today WP7.8 really smooth and ICS/JB from NAND with some lag here and then, but completely usable and fine?
What other 3 and a half years phone can do that? What other 2013 phone can do that?
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What other 3 and a half years phone can do that? What other 2013 phone can do that?
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Indeed.
Looking three and a half years ahead:
Someone invents virtualization for the HTC One which allows you to run WM 6.5 / 7 / 8/ 8.5 /
Ubuntu / Symbian and a host of other operating systems and legacy apps in RAM / virtual RAM
Let's hope the HTC One has the endurance that the venerable HD2 has.
Surely, all phone I pick always is legendary, I still believe on my choice.
Wasn't the HD2 just an EVO 4G with a crappier camera and no kickstand?
Honestly, no it won't.
Of course it would be amazing if it ever happened but what are the chances of it happening?
The HD2 is the most developed phone ever and even though it's so old, it can still run the latest Android updates and WP updates aswell. I don't think any other phone ever will be as legendary (in terms of what it has achieved) as the HD2.
It was ahead of its time by a long way and that's what helped the success of it.
The HTC One isn't ahead of its time by such a difference, even though it's the best phone around.
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It was hampered with only 512mb ram - It was full in no time with android on it. I tried running it from sd card but it was stuttery.
The Tmobile 1gb might have been a different story - But for me it's a bit over hyped
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T-mobile 1gb? I remember the international version got only 448mb ram & 512mb of ROM and the T-mobile version got 512mb ram and 1gb ROM. Just saying, as others might think 'T-mobile 1gb' in a different way.
And in those days, I felt jealous as the T-mobile people got a great device with much higher storage and 1gb internal storage and 512mb ram were awesome. And it became great as Android is not popular and there's no galaxy series and no competition. Apart from all these things, the HD2 got great developers like COTULLA and Darkstone. I remember his team releasing MAGLDR bootloader for HD2 as a new year 2011 gift for the world, I can still remember that moment after I saw that post along with the stock version of Android with Sense. And one word to say about Darkstone, he made a build which has used Ram as Nand, instead of Phone storage. But the device was never perfect in hands, It can only be used as a secondary. All this happened, as the device was completely unlocked and after all it got great developers, who made it legendary.
@OP I don't think it's ever possible again with any device. Now a days it's taking at least a year time to achieve S-Off and some like One X(International) may take even 2 years, after that it's old and a newer one arrives, and everyone including the developers think of that new one. Same routine!
It might happen, if the bootloader is completely unlocked and if the device is capable of dual boot etc, which I see has a 0% chance. So, it's waste of time to compare any device with HD2.
I was thinking this myself, the HD2 is probably the most "loved" phone ever on these forums and for good reason, even though I jumped ship to Samsung I used to still pop into the HD2 forums for a look and was amazed that development was still thriving and still is albeit on a much smaller scale these days.
Can't wait to get the HTC One but will always have a soft spot for the HD2
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@shree.cse: I totally agree with you. Cotulla is a "genius", but Darkstone1337 in the beginning played an important role.
A very important factor was that HD2, Desire/Nexus and HD7 shared the same hardware, which made easier to port different OS. Also, HD2 was the top phone, there was no competition, you could not get a similar top Android phone. So, many of us bought the HD2 because of that, but after using Android, WM felt old. There was a "need", an "urge" to port Android into it, which also happened with WP after HTC announced that HD2 would not get WP7 because it hadn't 3 button layout (once again f**ed by HTC).
Things are different today, Android is much bigger than WP and the choice is made between top Android phones, not top different OS phones. Top phones keep coming out, incrementally - but not substantially - better, so it's hard to a phone to become such a legend, with such hacking involved. It is simply not needed.
I am always jealous and always blown away by how amazing the hd2 is, and how it still has unbelievable development 3yrs in. I remember in April 2010 trying to decide between hd2 and Evo 4g. It was too hard for me to leave sprint, so I went with Evo (which also still has a pretty amazing level of development),
No phone will be as legendary as hd2. I am really interested in getting a One, but the amazing devs for my device (Evo LTE) already have ported the one/sense 5 to our device, so that will hold me over for a bit
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@shree.cse: I totally agree with you. Cotulla is a "genius", but Darkstone1337 in the beginning played an important role.
A very important factor was that HD2, Desire/Nexus and HD7 shared the same hardware, which made easier to port different OS. Also, HD2 was the top phone, there was no competition, you could not get a similar top Android phone. So, many of us bought the HD2 because of that, but after using Android, WM felt old. There was a "need", an "urge" to port Android into it, which also happened with WP after HTC announced that HD2 would not get WP7 because it hadn't 3 button layout (once again f**ed by HTC).
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Well said mate, but Afaik, it's Microsoft decision of not upgrading HD2 due to button layout. And they did the same with HD7 as well, saying some other b******t reason.
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@shree.cse: I totally agree with you. Cotulla is a "genius", but Darkstone1337 in the beginning played an important role.
A very important factor was that HD2, Desire/Nexus and HD7 shared the same hardware, which made easier to port different OS. Also, HD2 was the top phone, there was no competition, you could not get a similar top Android phone. So, many of us bought the HD2 because of that, but after using Android, WM felt old. There was a "need", an "urge" to port Android into it, which also happened with WP after HTC announced that HD2 would not get WP7 because it hadn't 3 button layout (once again f**ed by HTC).
Things are different today, Android is much bigger than WP and the choice is made between top Android phones, not top different OS phones. Top phones keep coming out, incrementally - but not substantially - better, so it's hard to a phone to become such a legend, with such hacking involved. It is simply not needed.
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Ah yes Darkstone I remember him well and Cotulla too, havent seen or heard from in a long time are they still around
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Cotulla is trying to port Win 8 RT to HD2 Once in a while I go check his twitter account to see what he's doing. It would be great if he bought a HTC One, but he finds Android boring.
Darkstone IDK, I think he's no longer on XDA. I sometimes check his twitter account, but don't see anything "xda dev" related.