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So, I'm bored with my Nexus. My battery life blows, I refuse to buy another battery for a phone that I'll be getting rid of soon. Also, I can't stand at&t. I'm wanting to get back to Big Red every day. Lucky for me, my contract termination date is soon.
That said, I love the Nexus, I bought it because of it's top-of the line technology. I don't want a Droid 2 it's too thick. The Droid X is too big, plus it's been out since July. Which means that a new one will be out sooner or later. Too bad the N2 is t-mo and maybe at&t, but I really don't want to lock-in to at&t for another 2 years.
Anybody else in this boat? What are you planning on doing? I'm hoping that the next generation android phones come out soon, face cameras and all. Anybody got any good rumors about new "super-phones"?
Nexus One is a beautiful product... I would like to wait for Nexus Two if there is any~ I got my Nexus One on 2nd March.
have been using it for 9 months and I still have 92% usable battery capacity..
I agree it is beautiful. I noticed you're in Australia, for which I'm very jealous. However, I'm not sure what the Australian Android scene is like down there, but it's changing daily here in the US.
Check out the battery cal thread. We just got the battery changes into pershoot's kernel this week. So now you can pull all your battery values from the battery EEPROM chip, and tweak them. We are experimenting with squeezing out more capacity now that we can change voltage, current, etc. Check the battery thread for more info
nothing for awhile, i just upgraded from my G1 to a N1 3 weeks ago and i don't honestly see anything hardware wise ground breaking happening that will make me want to get a new phone anytime soon.
a buddy of mine has the droid X, nice phone but man that screen looks like crap compared to the AMOLED screen the viewing angles not that it matters is very bad on them as well.
I think when they come up with a newer battery tech or phones that can have 2x+ the battery life and still be just as good as an N1 i would consider it but it's not going to happen for at least a year if not longer. in the mean time i don't have problems with battery life on average days and when i know i will be away from home/work for awhile i have a spare charged battery to make sure it stays alive
angasreid said:
So, I'm bored with my Nexus. My battery life blows, I refuse to buy another battery for a phone that I'll be getting rid of soon. Also, I can't stand at&t. I'm wanting to get back to Big Red every day. Lucky for me, my contract termination date is soon.
That said, I love the Nexus, I bought it because of it's top-of the line technology. I don't want a Droid 2 it's too thick. The Droid X is too big, plus it's been out since July. Which means that a new one will be out sooner or later. Too bad the N2 is t-mo and maybe at&t, but I really don't want to lock-in to at&t for another 2 years.
Anybody else in this boat? What are you planning on doing? I'm hoping that the next generation android phones come out soon, face cameras and all. Anybody got any good rumors about new "super-phones"?
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As soon as something that has a high quality build with a good camera equipped, I will jump ship. As of right now, I don't think that any Android phone has a good camera (in my opinion). I think we definitely live in an age where cellphone cameras can replace digital cameras but, unfortunately, there is no Android phone that has impressed me yet in the imaging department.
I agree. My wife wife has an iPhone 3G and I can brag all day about mu N1 being better. But when it gets to the camera, her phone is much better. Android phones have a long way ti catch up.
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I agree. My wife wife has an iPhone 3G and I can brag all day about mu N1 being better. But when it gets to the camera, her phone is much better. Android phones have a long way ti catch up.
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IPhone 3g vs n1 camera? Lol don't think so
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Droid Terminator... Early next year...
Nexus One has a decent camera, but the video recording quality is atrocious, ie. typical HTC video camera quality. Even the Sony X10 Mini Pro takes better videos (constant 30fps indoors). That's probably the only big knock against my Nexus One.
N1 stays
With currently available options I am unable to justify a switch from N1.
Thats unless someone releases an unlocked phone with a 1.5 dual core processor and 1G RAM with sustainable battery backup.
I'll wait for the next batch of new Android devices from the manufacturers once the WP7(which looks good) dust settles down.
They will pry my N1 from my cold dead hands.
Or whenever there's a device with unlockable bootloader, SIM-free (carrier unlocked), running vanilla Android, and officially a "dev phone" that beats Nexus One's specs.
Here are the features I would really like to have on such a device (in no particular order):
More internal storage. WTF were Google and HTC thinking putting only 512MB in the Nexus One?! With app sizes growing like crazy (e.g. Adobe Flash/Air or any 3D game) you hit the limit at 50-60 apps. Froyo improves things a little, but you're only postponing the inevitable "Device memory low" message. 8GB should be the minimum in today's handsets, preferably closer to 16-32GB.
Hardware keyboard. I'm getting used to Swype, but nothing beats the keyboard. Either slide or candy bar (Droid Pro) form factors will do.
True multi-touch screen. N1's screen is using old technology that registers only 2 points, and not very well at that. Just try crossing the axis while pinch-zooming to see what I mean.
Front-facing camera. I know it's a gimmick, but there are some pretty cool apps in the works that take advantage of it.
Better main camera. I'm not talking "moar megapiksels", I mean higher quality optics.
Larger and better screen. N1's 3.7 inches is a good enough size for a mobile device, but only just. I'd really prefer my next handset to have at least a 4.3" screen. Also, assuming Samsung stops hogging their Super AMOLEDs, I'd love to have that because of its supposed battery savings.
Larger battery. At some point we need to realize that with our changing usage habits, those 1500 mAh batteries just don't last for one day. Faster processors, GPU accelerated OS, bigger screens, and overall increased usage all take a toll. It's not your grandfather's Blackberry that sits in his pocket all day. 2400 mAh should be the standard nowadays, even if it makes the phone a millimeter thicker than the iPhone.
Better GPU. Sorry to say, but N1's Adreno 200 is a piece of crap. Forget Galaxy S, it can't even compare to the original Droid's PowerVR chip! I don't play many 3D intensive games on my Nexus One, but the ones I do are barely able to run. Gimme a Tegra2 or ARM's new Mali processor, and we're talkin'
More efficient CPU. It doesn't even need to be faster than 1GHz. As the G2 proved, clock speeds don't mean anything. Multi-core, better architecture, etc. should all be coming very soon to Android manufacturers.
HDMI-out port. Not all of my TVs at home are networkable, so having a video tank is very desirable to me.
CDMA and GSM (both T-Mobile ant AT&T 3G frequencies) radios. SIM lock is not the only thing restricting me from switching between carriers. I'm willing to pay extra to be free from any one particular network. Of course LTE, WiMAX and other future technologies will make this point moot. For the foreseeable future though, just CDMA and GSM radios will do.
Now I realize that with all these features comes a hefty price tag, but I'm willing to pay it. I don't want a carrier subsidy, I just want a kick-ass handset that will do what I want it to do.
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They will pry my N1 from my cold dead hands.
Or whenever there's a device with unlockable bootloader, SIM-free (carrier unlocked), running vanilla Android, and officially a "dev phone" that beats Nexus One's specs.
Here are the features I would really like to have on such a device (in no particular order):
More internal storage. WTF were Google and HTC thinking putting only 512MB in the Nexus One?! With app sizes growing like crazy (e.g. Adobe Flash/Air or any 3D game) you hit the limit at 50-60 apps. Froyo improves things a little, but you're only postponing the inevitable "Device memory low" message. 8GB should be the minimum in today's handsets, preferably closer to 16-32GB.
Hardware keyboard. I'm getting used to Swype, but nothing beats the keyboard. Either slide or candy bar (Droid Pro) form factors will do.
True multi-touch screen. N1's screen is using old technology that registers only 2 points, and not very well at that. Just try crossing the axis while pinch-zooming to see what I mean.
Front-facing camera. I know it's a gimmick, but there are some pretty cool apps in the works that take advantage of it.
Better main camera. I'm not talking "moar megapiksels", I mean higher quality optics.
Larger and better screen. N1's 3.7 inches is a good enough size for a mobile device, but only just. I'd really prefer my next handset to have at least a 4.3" screen. Also, assuming Samsung stops hogging their Super AMOLEDs, I'd love to have that because of its supposed battery savings.
Larger battery. At some point we need to realize that with our changing usage habits, those 1500 mAh batteries just don't last for one day. Faster processors, GPU accelerated OS, bigger screens, and overall increased usage all take a toll. It's not your grandfather's Blackberry that sits in his pocket all day. 2400 mAh should be the standard nowadays, even if it makes the phone a millimeter thicker than the iPhone.
Better GPU. Sorry to say, but N1's Adreno 200 is a piece of crap. Forget Galaxy S, it can't even compare to the original Droid's PowerVR chip! I don't play many 3D intensive games on my Nexus One, but the ones I do are barely able to run. Gimme a Tegra2 or ARM's new Mali processor, and we're talkin'
More efficient CPU. It doesn't even need to be faster than 1GHz. As the G2 proved, clock speeds don't mean anything. Multi-core, better architecture, etc. should all be coming very soon to Android manufacturers.
HDMI-out port. Not all of my TVs at home are networkable, so having a video tank is very desirable to me.
CDMA and GSM (both T-Mobile ant AT&T 3G frequencies) radios. SIM lock is not the only thing restricting me from switching between carriers. I'm willing to pay extra to be free from any one particular network. Of course LTE, WiMAX and other future technologies will make this point moot. For the foreseeable future though, just CDMA and GSM radios will do.
Now I realize that with all these features comes a hefty price tag, but I'm willing to pay it. I don't want a carrier subsidy, I just want a kick-ass handset that will do what I want it to do.
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That would be freaking awsome. I will have my Nexus One until a "Nexus two" is coming . Still very happy with it, had it for like 8 months now.
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Here are the features I would really like to have on such a device (in no particular order):
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That's why, after a lot of deliberation, I'm getting the LG Optimus 2X
All I want is another aluminum uni-body, ulockable-bootloader phone (just like the Nexus One) with the following feature:
a dual-core 1GHz+ processor
at least 1 GB of on-board storage
sdcard slot
I don't think that is too much to ask, is it? So far, From what I see out there, I'm sticking with my N1. If the HTC DesireHD2/Pyramid actually exists and has a dual-core processor, I'll likely jump to that IFF we can get S-OFF.
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All I want is another aluminum uni-body, ulockable-bootloader phone (just like the Nexus One) with the following feature:
a dual-core 1GHz+ processor
at least 1 GB of on-board storage
sdcard slot
I don't think that is too much to ask, is it? So far, From what I see out there, I'm sticking with my N1. If the HTC DesireHD2/Pyramid actually exists and has a dual-core processor, I'll likely jump to that IFF we can get S-OFF.
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what exactly is S-OFF with all these new HTC phones? i keep seeing it around but i am not familiar with what it is.
to answer this thread, i've been in upgrade hell, i simply cant figure out what i would want to replace my nexus one with. nothing out there seems to be "better" than the nexus one for me. is it too hard to get a nice solid aluminum 3.7-4 inch phone with notification light and build quality? the desire s is the highest on my list right now, but that stupid side-charge port turns me off. and no notification light. couldnt they just make the charge port on the bottom like normal?
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what exactly is S-OFF with all these new HTC phones? i keep seeing it around but i am not familiar with what it is.
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S-OFF stands for Security Off. Without getting technical, think of is as an unlocked bootloader.
I'll go for the HTC Pyramid if it shows up unlocked & 4G for tmob usa. Keeping my great N1 till then...
next phone
for me it has to be htc iv experimented and the dev support is with htc it will be a sense phone i cant stand stock
I am going to keep my N1 until the LG Optimus G2x or HTC Pyramid come out on Tmo, but I will wait to see if the Cyanogen team support them. I am not willing to get a phone without CM, or not being able to use custom Roms.
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I had an HTC Inspire and liked it, but kind of heavy.
Recently upgraded to an LG Nitro. I've had a few problems. For some reason, during the night while it is charging, it just quits charging. When I get up the battery is down to 25%. I've also had problems when placing a calls. When I take the phone away from my ear the screen won't come back on and I can't disconnect the call. This almost always happens when I'm leaving a voice mail and people will end up with a bunch of background noise until I can manage to get the screen to come back on and disconnect the call. All in all, very annoying problems.
I was considering returning it for the HTC Vivid or the Samsung Skyrocket.
Does anyone have any opinions?
Thanks.
Do you want sense or touchwiz?
Both are great but the vivid is stuck with no development due to not being able to unlock.....yet.
The HTC is the much nicer phone
I wouldn't go from nitro to skyrocket, the phone is good but the screen is low resolution. I'm really happy with the Vivid, I can still wait for bootloader, no time to play with custom roms yet, do no biggie for me.
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kiddchris said:
The HTC is the much nicer phone
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Just because you own the HTC doesn't mean "it's the much nicer phone"....they are both great phones, but i would go with the regular at&t gs2 over the skyrocket and then its a coin flip for the HTC or the GS2
It depends if you want to wait for the HTC bootloader to be unlocked, or if you want to go ahead and start flashing custom rom's
Pretty sure you're stuck with the Nitro since you only get one exchange within the 30 days from when you upgrade.
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Boobie Watcher said:
Just because you own the HTC doesn't mean "it's the much nicer phone"....they are both great phones, but i would go with the regular at&t gs2 over the skyrocket and then its a coin flip for the HTC or the GS2
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no, not "because I own the htc", I have had two Samsungs very recently along with the htc, and the HTC is the nicer phone out of the three, by alot
jacquiegardner said:
I had an HTC Inspire and liked it, but kind of heavy.
Recently upgraded to an LG Nitro. I've had a few problems. For some reason, during the night while it is charging, it just quits charging. When I get up the battery is down to 25%. I've also had problems when placing a calls. When I take the phone away from my ear the screen won't come back on and I can't disconnect the call. This almost always happens when I'm leaving a voice mail and people will end up with a bunch of background noise until I can manage to get the screen to come back on and disconnect the call. All in all, very annoying problems.
I was considering returning it for the HTC Vivid or the Samsung Skyrocket.
Does anyone have any opinions?
Thanks.
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This may sound like ranting, but is not...just opinion:
I have had HTC phones since Win 6. Sense is nice, build quality is nice...but will never come close to the Galaxy line of phones in performance. Galaxy phones were build to perform...cheap plastic, beautiful screen and the best of processors. Performancewise I will never trade a Galaxy for an HTC. I currently own 6 phones, Galaxy (Captivate), Galaxy S II (Unlocked), HTC Amazed, HTC Vivid, Galaxy Note and the Galaxy Nexus. The Galaxy phone will ALWAYS outperform ANY other phone and it has been proven everywhere...HOWEVER, the HTC build quality, screen resolution (NOT that it looks better, galaxy has one of the most beautiful displays...based on consumer reviews all over, but lower resolution), and the Sense UI make the HTC a good choice. The Vivid has a nice camera but then again so does the SGII.
I don't like the Galaxy Nexus that much...thought I would, but maybe is because is still new (already rooted BTW) but I prefer Gingerbread.
I am the director of IT at my company, we deal with digital photography, data storage and more. I handle all communications and when is time to buy new gadgets all my techs are given choices of PDAs, in the last 3 years all 23 of them chose the Galaxy line over every other phone, including HTC phones. They all say the same thing: it may have been built with cheap plastic...but we look at performance. We want to touch and go....not touch...wait...then go.
So...the choice in this case is a tough one. Vivid = Nice quality, nice 4.5" screen (not better, just nice)...considerably heavier due to good materials, dual core 1.2GHz Scorpion. SGII = Rock solid performance, customizable to your liking, very light and thin (CPS) build materials, beautiful screen (lower resolution however) 4.3" or 4.5". Dual core 1.2GHz Exynos OR dual core 1.5GHz scorpion.
Even in processors and screen size the Galaxy line gives you choices...Vivid is only one....a good one, but only one.
Vivid looks elegant, nice to carry in your front pocket of your shirt and you can feel it as you handle it. SGII is so lite sometimes you can forget you're holding it. The battery cover of the SGII is flimsy, very flexible but won't break easyly. The battery cover on the Vivid is solid, locks in place with a snap and stays there. Battery on the SGII is way better than the Vivid, might be due to the large display high density AND Sense does uses a lot of power and system resources. TouchWiz is NOT people's favorite, I don't mind it because it is fast, very fast and much better than previous versions...Sammy did get the message from screaming users regarding touchwiz in the past. Because touchwiz is so lite on the processor and memory, phone runs constantly at about 650MB free memory, while due to Sense and all the At&t advertising crap bloatware the Vivid only stays at about 300MB.
I do have to admit the Sense UI is beautiful, gives your display an extra wow, but they have to come up with a way to make Sense use less system resources and better processors.
Hope it helps somewhat
ebaul said:
This may sound like ranting, but is not...just opinion:
I have had HTC phones since Win 6. Sense is nice, build quality is nice...but will never come close to the Galaxy line of phones in performance. Galaxy phones were build to perform...cheap plastic, beautiful screen and the best of processors. Performancewise I will never trade a Galaxy for an HTC. I currently own 6 phones, Galaxy (Captivate), Galaxy S II (Unlocked), HTC Amazed, HTC Vivid, Galaxy Note and the Galaxy Nexus. The Galaxy phone will ALWAYS outperform ANY other phone and it has been proven everywhere...HOWEVER, the HTC build quality, screen resolution (NOT that it looks better, galaxy has one of the most beautiful displays...based on consumer reviews all over, but lower resolution), and the Sense UI make the HTC a good choice. The Vivid has a nice camera but then again so does the SGII.
I don't like the Galaxy Nexus that much...thought I would, but maybe is because is still new (already rooted BTW) but I prefer Gingerbread.
I am the director of IT at my company, we deal with digital photography, data storage and more. I handle all communications and when is time to buy new gadgets all my techs are given choices of PDAs, in the last 3 years all 23 of them chose the Galaxy line over every other phone, including HTC phones. They all say the same thing: it may have been built with cheap plastic...but we look at performance. We want to touch and go....not touch...wait...then go.
So...the choice in this case is a tough one. Vivid = Nice quality, nice 4.5" screen (not better, just nice)...considerably heavier due to good materials, dual core 1.2GHz Scorpion. SGII = Rock solid performance, customizable to your liking, very light and thin (CPS) build materials, beautiful screen (lower resolution however) 4.3" or 4.5". Dual core 1.2GHz Exynos OR dual core 1.5GHz scorpion.
Even in processors and screen size the Galaxy line gives you choices...Vivid is only one....a good one, but only one.
Vivid looks elegant, nice to carry in your front pocket of your shirt and you can feel it as you handle it. SGII is so lite sometimes you can forget you're holding it. The battery cover of the SGII is flimsy, very flexible but won't break easyly. The battery cover on the Vivid is solid, locks in place with a snap and stays there. Battery on the SGII is way better than the Vivid, might be due to the large display high density AND Sense does uses a lot of power and system resources. TouchWiz is NOT people's favorite, I don't mind it because it is fast, very fast and much better than previous versions...Sammy did get the message from screaming users regarding touchwiz in the past. Because touchwiz is so lite on the processor and memory, phone runs constantly at about 650MB free memory, while due to Sense and all the At&t advertising crap bloatware the Vivid only stays at about 300MB.
I do have to admit the Sense UI is beautiful, gives your display an extra wow, but they have to come up with a way to make Sense use less system resources and better processors.
Hope it helps somewhat
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Agree!
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kiddchris said:
no, not "because I own the htc", I have had two Samsungs very recently along with the htc, and the HTC is the nicer phone out of the three, by alot
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by alot? Like what?
I kept my Evo but got a Galaxy oil the other day. I was shocked at the low resolution screen and cartoon colors. I can appreciate that Sense uses tons of memory and what made me root my Evo was the ui slowing after gingerbread. Every time I went to the gone screen it would have to stop and reload.
I plan to replace the Galaxy with a Inspire or Vivid as I can't live with the screen.
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ebaul said:
This may sound like ranting, but is not...just opinion:
I have had HTC phones since Win 6. Sense is nice, build quality is nice...but will never come close to the Galaxy line of phones in performance. Galaxy phones were build to perform...cheap plastic, beautiful screen and the best of processors. Performancewise I will never trade a Galaxy for an HTC. I currently own 6 phones, Galaxy (Captivate), Galaxy S II (Unlocked), HTC Amazed, HTC Vivid, Galaxy Note and the Galaxy Nexus. The Galaxy phone will ALWAYS outperform ANY other phone and it has been proven everywhere...HOWEVER, the HTC build quality, screen resolution (NOT that it looks better, galaxy has one of the most beautiful displays...based on consumer reviews all over, but lower resolution), and the Sense UI make the HTC a good choice. The Vivid has a nice camera but then again so does the SGII.
I don't like the Galaxy Nexus that much...thought I would, but maybe is because is still new (already rooted BTW) but I prefer Gingerbread.
I am the director of IT at my company, we deal with digital photography, data storage and more. I handle all communications and when is time to buy new gadgets all my techs are given choices of PDAs, in the last 3 years all 23 of them chose the Galaxy line over every other phone, including HTC phones. They all say the same thing: it may have been built with cheap plastic...but we look at performance. We want to touch and go....not touch...wait...then go.
So...the choice in this case is a tough one. Vivid = Nice quality, nice 4.5" screen (not better, just nice)...considerably heavier due to good materials, dual core 1.2GHz Scorpion. SGII = Rock solid performance, customizable to your liking, very light and thin (CPS) build materials, beautiful screen (lower resolution however) 4.3" or 4.5". Dual core 1.2GHz Exynos OR dual core 1.5GHz scorpion.
Even in processors and screen size the Galaxy line gives you choices...Vivid is only one....a good one, but only one.
Vivid looks elegant, nice to carry in your front pocket of your shirt and you can feel it as you handle it. SGII is so lite sometimes you can forget you're holding it. The battery cover of the SGII is flimsy, very flexible but won't break easyly. The battery cover on the Vivid is solid, locks in place with a snap and stays there. Battery on the SGII is way better than the Vivid, might be due to the large display high density AND Sense does uses a lot of power and system resources. TouchWiz is NOT people's favorite, I don't mind it because it is fast, very fast and much better than previous versions...Sammy did get the message from screaming users regarding touchwiz in the past. Because touchwiz is so lite on the processor and memory, phone runs constantly at about 650MB free memory, while due to Sense and all the At&t advertising crap bloatware the Vivid only stays at about 300MB.
I do have to admit the Sense UI is beautiful, gives your display an extra wow, but they have to come up with a way to make Sense use less system resources and better processors.
Hope it helps somewhat
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Nicely said!
My 2 Cents
I tend to stick to mainly HTC based phones. Why..
I feel they are very solid.
They tend to have good support factory & dev.
They tend to be very customizable
Performance wise I think the HTC & Samsung run very close (I am basing this using Vivid and Skyrocket for examples).
I like both screens (the Samsung oled screens tend to be better in sunlight, but I have been impressed with the Vivids screen in Sunlight)
My Advice to you look at your options, do some reading on what prople like and don't like and decide what phone better fits your needs. For me it's currently the Vivid.
Just my opionion tho.
Cheers
BR
I've had my Note since November 2011 (well a Note as I lost one and proceeded to buy another one). I still love the phone, the screen size is great and the white Note still gets a lot of attention over a year later (most people call it or actually think it's the mini ipad). Well I just successfully ordered a 16gb Nexus 4, now I am trying to decide if I will give it as a gift and keep the note or try something new. Does anyone have both and can tell me the pros and cons?
I like the Notes screen size, sd card slot, TW and honestly that it's still a unique device however I like the specs on the Nexus 4, NFC, wireless charging, and LED light. I feel the note is actually better looking than the Nexus and although I heard the Nexus has great build quality it will just got lost in the sea of black phones versus my white Note. I am not too concerned with the 16gb, I used to have a 16gb iphone and never ran out of space. I honestly am torn, I am not sure if some of the new features outweigh the screen size, uniqueness, and TW? Any other opinions? I realize they will be bias in the Note section.
Also any comparison on cameras, I love how great the pictures come out on my Note in the dark. My friends with iphone 4 and iphone 4s always want me to use my camera since it takes such better pictures than their phones when the flash is on, I wonder how the nexus 4 camera compares to the original Note camera?
BTW don't care about removeable battery or the spen, I barely ever use it.
I suffer from a severe upgradeitis, and since Nexus 4 is actually affordable (which couldn't be said about the GNex), I am jumping ship and getting myself one. I will probably suffer because of the smaller screen (I really got fond of Note's size), and I loathe the lack of microSD slot, but I love everything else about the N4.
I am with the N4...
You'll suffer for:
smaller screen
less vivid colors
lower quality of the camera
spen (if you use it frequently)
You'll like:
Google updates
smaller screen (will let you use it with one hand)
your wallet
led notifications
project butter full compliancy
impressive response
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I've had my Note since November 2011 (well a Note as I lost one and proceeded to buy another one). I still love the phone, the screen size is great and the white Note still gets a lot of attention over a year later (most people call it or actually think it's the mini ipad). Well I just successfully ordered a 16gb Nexus 4, now I am trying to decide if I will give it as a gift and keep the note or try something new. Does anyone have both and can tell me the pros and cons?
I like the Notes screen size, sd card slot, TW and honestly that it's still a unique device however I like the specs on the Nexus 4, NFC, wireless charging, and LED light. I feel the note is actually better looking than the Nexus and although I heard the Nexus has great build quality it will just got lost in the sea of black phones versus my white Note. I am not too concerned with the 16gb, I used to have a 16gb iphone and never ran out of space. I honestly am torn, I am not sure if some of the new features outweigh the screen size, uniqueness, and TW? Any other opinions? I realize they will be bias in the Note section.
Also any comparison on cameras, I love how great the pictures come out on my Note in the dark. My friends with iphone 4 and iphone 4s always want me to use my camera since it takes such better pictures than their phones when the flash is on, I wonder how the nexus 4 camera compares to the original Note camera?
BTW don't care about removeable battery or the spen, I barely ever use it.
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I was thinking about getting one, but i don't like the hardware. Smaller screen and it's actually thinner than the Note, but it looks like a damn brick. Most of you don't care about these things, but i do
My Nexus 4 arrives December 10th. For me, I'm going to miss the screen the most on the Note which I still think is one of the nicest to look at. My wife has the One X which everyone tells me is the best display on a phone, but we both prefer the colours and general impression of the Note, even if they are unnatural.
Biggest reason for the purchase is that I'm tired of Samsung's BS with software updates and closed-source platform. I want the latest version of Android when it's released, not months later. I use aosp anyway, have never liked TW.
Things I expect to like about the Nexus are the smaller size (I don't know why but after a year of having the Note I'm starting to find its size prohibitive more often than I used to) , LED notification, proper Butter, software updates and general speed.
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None of you is bothered by the lack of an SD card slot? To me, this is definitely a showstopper along with the non-removable battery (iPhone style for the lose).
My main concern about the Nexus 4 is that it is just generic Android. I don't like the bloat around the other implementations such as TouchWiz, but there's a couple of dealbreaker bugs in stock Android that Samsung, HTC etc have fixed. I don't know why Google haven't.
In particular the Email client can't work with Exchange when offline. Deleting emails on the device leaves them all on the server still, even after connection is established and sync run. Makes it pretty useless for managing emails on a commute. Samsung, HTC and even Motorola have fixed this problem, but it's still in the base Android and has been since at least ICS and possibly HC. Google don't seem interested.
It gets even worse with Imap, where it puts all the emails you've deleted back on the device once you sync. Again HTC and Motorola have fixed this, although Samsung has this problem.
Seems a basic issue, but means I won't recommend these devices for corporate use until it is fixed.
Nick
I don't care about non-removable battery, I only take out my battery if I need to access my SIM or SD card, so not a big deal for me.
Lack of SD slot and puny internal memory is a bummer for sure, but I've decided I can live with that. In return, I get stock android experience without the need of using custom ROMs (and let's face it - while CM10 for the Note is awesome, it has its issues), I'm always up to speed with new Android releases (instead of waiting for CM to catch up), awesome hjardware, and great looks. Fair tradeoff in my opinion. I will mourn the lack of SD slot and lack of FM Radio, but I'll deal with it. I got my Note last year only because it was carrier-subsided, and I couldn't afford to buy an unlocked GNex.
Got the phone in, so far I rooted it. I need to play around with it for a bit before I decide which phone I want to keep.
Yes I bought 3 nexus 4 mobile phones really amazing phones hyper fast feels good gonna rom it rip it root it to the max.... This baby will blast off!!!!
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I too have the nexus 4
Sold my galaxy note
And yes there's a difference in size but you get use to it
It's amazingly fast and already with 4.2.1
I'm rented by the price but lack of micro sd ruins it. Out of the 16 gig you will be lucky to have access to 11gig, as with other phones. I love my music and have a lot of roms on board so 11g is nothing.
From the man in your attic...
Can I just ask around a question, real quick. What's all that speed for? (casual) gaming?
Nexus 4 for me is the Android version of an iPhone, and unfortunately I am not meaning it as a compliment. As someone already stated in this topic, no sd card, no removable battery just means that if you want to take lots of pictures, videos, get your off-line Navigation with the entire Europe Maps (about 3.7GB) on your device there is not much left for anything else. I have seen a review where they state that only 12,3GB are available for the end user. That might be OK for some people, but I am not one of them.
Another thing is that if you want to use it a gamers phone, with this storage and HD games now available you will be able to get 3, maybe 4 big games in it, which is not something I would call ground breaking.
Last but not least, the battery in the phone will loose its charge over time. I am not a type of person to carry with me extra batteries and swap them around, but after some time everyone notices that their battery is not what it used to be. Specially when you want to buy / sell a second hand phone, being able to change the battery for a new one and enjoy your phone as when it was unpacked is something that Nexus 4 users will not be able to experience without getting their hands dirty and probably voiding the warranty of the device.
Sound Problems?
Does anyone here suffer from the Earpiece Defect in Nexus 4 that got mentioned in Mashable?
http://mashable.com/2012/11/25/google-nexus-4-defect/
Kortxero said:
None of you is bothered by the lack of an SD card slot? To me, this is definitely a showstopper along with the non-removable battery (iPhone style for the lose).
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I know the OP doesn't care, but for me this is the showstopper (which would only change if a reasonably priced 64gb model came out). As others have said, this is the iPhone of Androids, and not in a good way. The lack of removable battery gets me as well as I use my phone so much that I need either two batteries or an extended battery.
But the pros are Butter, good updates etc. But personally ill stick with the Note until the Note 3 (or something better arrives), mainly through choice than cost.
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Does anyone here suffer from the Earpiece Defect in Nexus 4 that got mentioned in Mashable?
http://mashable.com/2012/11/25/google-nexus-4-defect/
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Well, I have a the distortion going on. Like, for the quality of the speaker to be good and not have any type of audio artifact, I need to keep the volume at 30% at all times. Anything higher, and certain pitches starts distorting/cracking. I guess one "fix" for this would be to change the kernel code to restrict the volume range of the speaker so that the maximum would be much lower. It could be the case that the kernel is actually overdriving the speaker module which results in the distortion. Whatever it is, it is definitely annoying to hear the edges of a person's voice gets distorted.
It's like they opted to use the cheapest POS speaker module they could find with an extremely limited range. The speaker on the Galaxy Note is a world better.
I have both....the screen size is something to get used to without a doubt. It is so tiny, but it is bearable. The constant updates from Google makes this phone worth it seeing how Samsung is a POS when it comes to releasing sources.
I'm also seeing some banding on the screen. Not sure if it's because of the screen or due to the image used (low bit).
I have an RMA on the way soon and will compare how the newer unit fares.
As NickC42 pointed out, I don't like stock Google android for few of these nitpicking stuffs -
1. Does not support speed dial? Hello Google!!??
2. Email/Calendar clients are white background black text. Why can't they have optional reverse color?
3. Oh I didn't know about those Exchange Email annoyances - total dealbreaker.
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As NickC42 pointed out, I don't like stock Google android for few of these nitpicking stuffs -
1. Does not support speed dial? Hello Google!!??
2. Email/Calendar clients are white background black text. Why can't they have optional reverse color?
3. Oh I didn't know about those Exchange Email annoyances - total dealbreaker.
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1.Install custom rom/mod
2.Install inverted gapps
3.No single issue with exchange.
All this can be solved in 10 mniutes. This is Android. Want everything out of the box? Buy iPhone.
My reasoning was why I do not like stock Android aka Nexus. If I have to install custom ROM, it defeats purpose of buying a Nexus device.
Edited: Ask yourself ahalford why do people buy Nexus device? Because they get update from God Google on day one. What is use of that update if it never fixes few of the basic things?
Edited 2: Maybe you have iPhone hidden inside your secret stash and know it enough to recommend to other people. How about giving us out of the box experience one gets from iPhone?
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I just recently went back to using my amaze (running cm10) and I am about to sell my S3. My 2 choises are:
HTC ONE
Samsung S4
Wanted some feed back from you guys. Do you love the HTC One? Given a chance, would you still buy it over the S4? And do you guys see a community as big as the S4 will be?
While back I went with the Amaze over the S2. I love the phone but hated the fact that the Amaze community is almost non existent. I do not want to go through that again.
Quite honestly I am loving the HTC One
I had been in the same place like you, I owned a S3 before and had to make a choice -> the choice went to the HTC One and I've never been so happy about a decision ^^
- First thing is the quality, the HTC One beats S3 and S4 over 1000 times, the aliminium unibody is so awesome. If you are habitated on using a phone with aluminium body you will never take a plastic phone back to your hand. I was shocked how long I endured having a plastic phone since I now know how good quality feels like
- You will love the beautiful new HTC user interface, much more tidied up, clearer and better design than Samsung's ugly way of UI design (I say ugly because compared to the HTC user interface it is). HTC One offers you a much better experience here
- Other thing is the screensize, I don't about your preferences but I think that 4,7" is the perfect size for any smartphone, for me anything bigger than that is too big and anything smaller too small.
- You never heard such a good sound from speakers of a smartphone...some may argue now with "who needs good speakers anyways if I watch videos or listen to music with headphones on"...yeah right, but I also would like to enjoy stuff loudly without always having headphones on. Two nice Speakers for Stereosound with Beats Audio, you will love the difference
- The design...well beauty is something undefined and dependent on the viewers eye, but I if you made a poll voting about who has the better design than I can predict you which one would win with big advance -> the HTC One. The design of the S4 is nothing new, so unoriginal because it changed only little things compared to the S3, they look almost similar. Compared to the HTC One the S4 looks so boring and cheap. This is also caused by the cheap material, you just see it
- The hardware power: Both have almost same power, just the CPU of the S4 is slightly better, but the rest is almost identical. Awesome CPU and Graphic Power, 2GB Ram, LTE. Due to the equality I would always pick the phone which offers much better quality on the overall package -> So for me the clearly winner is the HTC One
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I had been in the same place like you, I owned a S3 before and had to make a choice -> the choice went to the HTC One and I've never been so happy about a decision ^^
- First thing is the quality, the HTC One beats S3 and S4 over 1000 times, the aliminium unibody is so awesome. If you are habitated on using a phone with aluminium body you will never take a plastic phone back to your hand. I was shocked how long I endured having a plastic phone since I now know how good quality feels like
- You will love the beautiful new HTC user interface, much more tidied up, clearer and better design than Samsung's ugly way of UI design (I say ugly because compared to the HTC user interface it is). HTC One offers you a much better experience here
- Other thing is the screensize, I don't about your preferences but I think that 4,7" is the perfect size for any smartphone, for me anything bigger than that is too big and anything smaller too small.
- You never heard such a good sound from speakers of a smartphone...some may argue now with "who needs good speakers anyways if I watch videos or listen to music with headphones on"...yeah right, but I also would like to enjoy stuff loudly without always having headphones on. Two nice Speakers for Stereosound with Beats Audio, you will love the difference
- The design...well beauty is something undefined and dependent on the viewers eye, but I if you made a poll voting about who has the better design than I can predict you which one would win with big advance -> the HTC One. The design of the S4 is nothing new, so unoriginal because it changed only little things compared to the S3, they look almost similar. Compared to the HTC One the S4 looks so boring and cheap. This is also caused by the cheap material, you just see it
- The hardware power: Both have almost same power, just the CPU of the S4 is slightly better, but the rest is almost identical. Awesome CPU and Graphic Power, 2GB Ram, LTE. Due to the equality I would always pick the phone which offers much better quality on the overall package -> So for me the clearly winner is the HTC One
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you forgot one important factor....the camera...
how do you compare it to the samsung s3?
Does the lack of Micro SD card and removal battery bother you? Do you have the US version of the phone or international?
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you forgot one important factor....the camera...
how do you compare it to the samsung s3?
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Hmm, the S4 camera seems to be slightly better (according to tests), but not that much that it would be a reason to pick the S4 over the HTC One ^^ At least for me
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It doesn't bother me. I even didn't buy the 64GB version because the 32GB is enough for me. The non-removable battery isn't a big issue, of course it is more time consuming and harder to change it but when do you need to change a battery? Not that often ^^ Maybe once every 2 years. It will be a bit more expensive to change it but it still can be done.
I guess I have the international version (europe here)
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Hmm, the S4 camera seems to be slightly better (according to tests), but not that much that it would be a reason to pick the S4 over the HTC One ^^ At least for me
Is it really? How about video recording quality? I wonder if HTC had something high then 4mp, would it had been more awesome?
It doesn't bother me. I even didn't buy the 64GB version because the 32GB is enough for me. The non-removable battery isn't a big issue, of course it is more time consuming and harder to change it but when do you need to change a battery? Not that often ^^ Maybe once every 2 years. It will be a bit more expensive to change it but it still can be done.
I guess I have the international version (europe here)
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I guess I like to have back up batteries for those "emergency" moments. How much did you pay, US $ roughly? I would probably go with the 64gb.
How do you feel about the community? Do you think it will grow? CM10 is still struggling to get BT to work correctly on the Amaze even after all this time.
Can you read on it? S4 temping because I could read on it. And does the features on the S4 in anyway sway you towards it like eye tracking scrolling magiga thingy lol humidity sensor and the sort?
Coming from the 3VO, I have a bad taste of HTC in my mouth mostly due to poor build quality, parts, update speed. With upgrade due on 1 Aug 2013 I hope to get the HTC One. Can I expect more of the same or is it a new experience?
HTC is trying, but not hard enough...you'll see most of the same IMO, but it's still fairly early to tell (IMO still doesn't make a difference, HTC will never get their act together)
I've owned two HTC phones that both got killed on GB. Very saddening
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Coming from the 3VO, I have a bad taste of HTC in my mouth mostly due to poor build quality, parts, update speed. With upgrade due on 1 Aug 2013 I hope to get the HTC One. Can I expect more of the same or is it a new experience?
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If I say one thing, I have to commend you on your dramatic title.
The One isn't for everyone. Period.
If you are gonna need to be able to zoom on the camera at all, you're out of luck. If you need a crapload of storage space, same. The American Ones haven't gotten 4.2 yet (Taiwan + Int'l have). This phone gets hot to the touch rather quickly. If you damage the device, it is hard to replace the casing yourself. You definitely can't replace any of the internals yourself. There have been reports of shoddy QC with problems including: gaps in the unibody case, mushy power buttons, self-cracking lenses (which has yet to be verified as a defect) and dead/stuck pixels. EDIT: I had my device repaired, and my power button came back recessed by about a millimeter. Again, shoddy QC.
That's not to say other devices are perfect. The S4 seems to have cracking LCD issues or something. HTC one has the best low light performance of any cell phone camera. EDIT: Review say that the Nokia 1020 and 925 beat all other cameras, including the HTC One's. Zoe allows for living, breathing pictures. The (almost)all-metal case is like nothing I've or probably anybody else has ever held before. It's miles better than any plastic phone. The boomsound speakers are simply the loudest ever. NTM that they face you, and not your hands. Sense 5 is really an improvement over 4, and the battery is enough for 1.5 - 2 days of moderate use.
The biggest tradeoff you'll be making when coming to this phone is the picture resolution. The QC issues are somewhat rare (nobody reports a perfectly good device) and some say that the heating is actually good in that the heat dissipates rather than smoldering inside the phone.(EDIT: The device regularly reaches 105 degrees F while browsing. Not sure if that's normal.) I wouldn't worry about update speed. We already have 4.3 ROMs coming from the Google Play edition. I think Samsung has the best Reputation for old product support when it comes to software updates. That is, if you don't count Cyanogenmod and iOS. My GS2 runs 4.1.2, stock.
That's just an overview of what has been discussed about this phone on XDA. The choice is yours.
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If I say one thing, I have to commend you on your dramatic title.
The One isn't for everyone. Period.
If you are gonna need to be able to zoom on the camera at all, you're out of luck. If you need a crapload of storage space, same. The American Ones haven't gotten 4.2 yet (Taiwan + Int'l have). This phone gets hot to the touch rather quickly. If you damage the device, it is hard to replace the casing yourself. You definitely can't replace any of the internals yourself. There have been reports of shoddy QC with problems including: gaps in the unibody case, mushy power buttons, self-cracking lenses (which has yet to be verified as a defect) and dead/stuck pixels.
That's not to say other devices are perfect. The S4 seems to have cracking LCD issues or something. HTC one has the best low light performance of any cell phone camera. Zoe allows for living, breathing pictures. The (almost)all-metal case is like nothing I've or probably anybody else has ever held before. It's miles better than any plastic phone. The boomsound speakers are simply the loudest ever. NTM that they face you, and not your hands. Sense 5 is really an improvement over 4, and the battery is enough for 1.5 - 2 days of moderate use.
The biggest tradeoff you'll be making when coming to this phone is the picture resolution. The QC issues are somewhat rare (nobody reports a perfectly good device) and some say that the heating is actually good in that the heat dissipates rather than smoldering inside the phone. I wouldn't worry about update speed. We already have 4.3 ROMs coming from the Google Play edition.
That's just an overview of what has been discussed about this phone on XDA. The choice is yours.
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Very factual, thanks for commenting I feel kind of reassured about my decision.
This is a solid device. I'm still stock,UN rooted and it really doesn't do anything bad. My phone doesn't get super hot, it takes good pics, the o.s runs great, no lag. I unplugged mine this morning at 5:30am and I still have 20% at 11:23pm. When you get the phone get a good case.
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I am impressed with HTC this time around. I pretty much wrote them off in the past but I think they finally got their act together with the One.
But like others said it comes down to personal preference. There are tradeoffs and you just got to play with all your options. But I believe the consensus is that HTC really stepped it up.
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deadhead_fred said:
Coming from the 3VO, I have a bad taste of HTC in my mouth mostly due to poor build quality, parts, update speed. With upgrade due on 1 Aug 2013 I hope to get the HTC One. Can I expect more of the same or is it a new experience?
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I came from the Evo 3D too and I hated HTC. I heard the 3D was the worst by far with OTAs and such. I really like the One for the build and while i miss some things (like the ability for an SD) it's easy to get over. I was considering the GS4 before the One, but I took a look at them side by side and I felt the one was much better IMO.
Great build, hard to fix parts (as mentioned above), Not too sure yet about update speed. I think you should go for it :good:
I recently purchased the One and I'm so close to returning it. I can't stand the fact that you can't turn off BlinkFeed, which is a complete waste of a very limited number if Android screens. The One gives you only (yes, "only") five screens max, four not including BlinkFeed. I need two screens alone for personal and work contacts widgets. I upgraded from the original HTC Evo and I already miss that old goat.
I miss my SD card too.
Why do people talk about phones' outer shells when 99% of phones out there are sitting in some Otterbox/case?
Have you thought about using a different launcher? No blinkfeed, more customization, as many screens as you like. Personally I use Nova launcher
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