Michigan: Police Search Cell Phones During Traffic Stops - Off-topic

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/34/3458.asp
A US Department of Justice test of the CelleBrite UFED used by Michigan police found the device could grab all of the photos and video off of an iPhone within one-and-a-half minutes. The device works with 3000 different phone models and can even defeat password protections.
"Complete extraction of existing, hidden, and deleted phone data, including call history, text messages, contacts, images, and geotags," a CelleBrite brochure explains regarding the device's capabilities. "The Physical Analyzer allows visualization of both existing and deleted locations on Google Earth. In addition, location information from GPS devices and image geotags can be mapped on Google Maps."
Is there a way to protect oneself from these kinds of devices ?

Ptrout said:
A US Department of Justice test of the CelleBrite UFED used by Michigan police found the device could grab all of the photos and video off of an iPhone within one-and-a-half minutes. The device works with 3000 different phone models and can even defeat password protections.
"Complete extraction of existing, hidden, and deleted phone data, including call history, text messages, contacts, images, and geotags," a CelleBrite brochure explains regarding the device's capabilities. "The Physical Analyzer allows visualization of both existing and deleted locations on Google Earth. In addition, location information from GPS devices and image geotags can be mapped on Google Maps."
Is there a way to protect oneself from these kinds of devices ?
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Cellebrite UFED supports all known cellular device interfaces, including serial, USB, infrared, and Bluetooth. Extractions can then be brought back to the forensic lab for review and verification using the reporting/analysis tool.
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I'd say the best way to prevent this from happening is request what right they have to look at your private handset without a warrant unless they have probable cause or if someone is in imminent danger and your phone has information that can stop that.
Other than that, without technical details of how the information is pulled it is nearly impossible to say how

Thats insane
Ptrout said:
Is there a way to protect oneself from these kinds of devices ?
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Turn off the phones

Not liking the obvious invasion of privacy.

gamachan said:
I'd say the best way to prevent this from happening is request what right they have to look at your private handset without a warrant unless they have probable cause or if someone is in imminent danger and your phone has information that can stop that.
Other than that, without technical details of how the information is pulled it is nearly impossible to say how
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The problem seems to be that, when you get a license on that state or any state, its not a a right, but a privilege. And as such, they can state what ever clause they want in it, and you can agree to abide by or refuse and forfeit license.
Fear being that more and more states will adopt this kind of tech and practices.

Yup
Married to a State Trooper and both of us HATE this! They claim it has to be done to see if you were Texting during an accident....and my spouse told me that you CAN deny the officer control of your phone, BUT you run a chance of being arrested and you will receive a ticket...basically, you can't decline it! Also, I live in Detroit, which is a border city with Windsor, Ontario...and my friends had their Blackberries taken at the border. I bought a "minute phone" to take across the border when I visit them, so that my Droid won't fall into the hands of the "Gubment! Can anyone say "1984"?

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That's a picture of our cellebrite machine at work. I use it all the time it helps when people go to a new phone and don't want to lose any data from there old phone. Anyways here's a couple things you guys need to know about this machine. It does transfer messages, contacts, music, audio/ringtones, and pictures. From sd card and internal memory. Now getting information off of it requires the phone to have a sd card in it, usb mass storage enabled, and usb debugging. All 3 things have to be enabled for it to transfer. Anyways if you want to avoid this, then just put a lock on your phone. If they can't get pass your lock screen to enable usb debugging or activate mass storage then they can't pull anything off of it. Even if they try bluetooth, etc. If your in a jam, do a factory reset, cellebrite can't pull information from your phone if it's not there. Cellebrite can not restore deleted data, it just transfers it. I have no idea why state troopers are using it to check if you were text messaging. Because it would much faster to just check the messages and see when it was sent. This is all pertaining to android phones. All the other phones out there are a little different. For example the iphones I can just plug it and start transferring, etc.

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That's a picture of our cellebrite machine at work. I use it all the time it helps when people go to a new phone and don't want to lose any data from there old phone. Anyways here's a couple things you guys need to know about this machine. It does transfer messages, contacts, music, audio/ringtones, and pictures. From sd card and internal memory. Now getting information off of it requires the phone to have a sd card in it, usb mass storage enabled, and usb debugging. All 3 things have to be enabled for it to transfer. Anyways if you want to avoid this, then just put a lock on your phone. If they can't get pass your lock screen to enable usb debugging or activate mass storage then they can't pull anything off of it. Even if they try bluetooth, etc. If your in a jam, do a factory reset, cellebrite can't pull information from your phone if it's not there. Cellebrite can not restore deleted data, it just transfers it. I have no idea why state troopers are using it to check if you were text messaging. Because it would much faster to just check the messages and see when it was sent. This is all pertaining to android phones. All the other phones out there are a little different. For example the iphones I can just plug it and start transferring, etc.
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Thanks so much for this info.... hubby and I were discussing it this morning and you've cleared up several questions we had.

I know the article was too optimistic about the machine's capabilities. Still, its pretty good. This is what hacking on a salary does >_>
As to the obvious violation of your rights, refuse to give up your phone without a warrant. I guarantee you this is bull****. Find out the laws in your state, get some reading material to defend yourself with. I'm sure they'll try to scare you with some legal rhetoric but chances are it won't hold up in court. You need to find out what arguments they're using and what legal counters to use.
Fight the good fight, people. NEVER give in to this bull****.

craziest thing ive seen WTF!

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should i use ANTIvirus and ANTI malware?

should i use ANTIvirus and ANTI malware?
on my PC i have kaspersky and Malware bytes
should i have something similar on my android phone?
This should not be necessary as long as you don't use any files from unknown sources. For example only use the market to install applications, only copy files from your pc to your phone (they will be scanned on your pc), and as usual be careful for attachments in your mailbox. Check where they come from and if you receive "sexy girls.bat" from anyone (even a friend) don't open it...
You can always connect phone in mass storage mode and run kaspersky on the two memory cards .
jje
cheers
both good bits of advice
- stuff from good sources a great idea ---sexy girls.bat
-also the scan with kaspersky was a great idea
What about antibanner. since my new update every frickin flash banner is annoying me. I'm sure they weren't there before
Is there a banner blocker for android?
if your phone is rooted i use ad-free android and i find it works awesome
snuff96 said:
if your phone is rooted i use ad-free android and i find it works awesome
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http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-bigtincan-android-adfree-zxC.aspx
cheers I'm trying it now
i got it straight to my phone by using the google bar code scanner on the square from the above post.
its an excuse to muck about with technology....and I'm going to use it....
@everyone else
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cheers
I'm resurrecting this thread since I read the article on here about dodgy virus market apps
I couldn't find it again to post it.
But do I need a security program on my phone
if so whats good or are there any free ones?
cheers
i use 'MyLookout' its a free app (also a paid version) and everytime something new is put onto the phone, MyLookout will automatically scan it for malware, its a really good app.
also another advantage of this app, is you can do backups to the cloud.
And another thing. If your device was to go missing, you can simply log on to the website MyLookout.com from your PC or another Phone, there you can switch on GPS, track the Phone down, perform a full wipe, lock the device, Sound an alarm on the phone which cannot be turned off.
and the best feature, is you can select an option so the app will not uninstall, so the thief who took your phone, cannot uninstall the app. Meaning you can always keep tracking it down
you can do all this from any PC / Mobile
Dr Web antivirus light is nice too
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No just don't install sketchy apps.
Then again I don't use AV on my PC's either...it has proven useless in the past as it doesn't keep up with the attackers quickly enough. These days I go with a 'perimeter defense', keep the hostile code from running on the machine in the first place rather than running every damn thing and counting on some program to be current enough to save me.
Kaspersky Mobile Security is the best
Though i'm not using it right now.
I use lookout and find it excellent, though as others rightly say your phone is not nearly as vulnerable as your pc and by following common sense behaviour you should be totally fine. Give lookout a try as it includes lost phone detection and wiping too.
Sent from my GTI9000 using XDA App, gingerbread 2.2.3 jvk rooted, ADW launcher + gingerbread theme
Why should I care about malware when I flash the phone every two weeks!!
(sometimes less time)
I don't, because I want to maintain maximum performance and battery life. Plus I'm not sure how effective any of the products are.
I must say though, I am a lot more careful about reading permissions and installing untested apps these days, after reading about the droid-dream malware etc.
nipip: lol true, same here
What about NetQin
Galaxy S XWJVB
And where to get kaspersky from? its not in the market
Galaxy S XWJVB
I use Lookout and have been very happy with it. Sure it may be a placebo at this moment. But as smartphones become the net access tool of choice for more people, malware will get worse as time goes by.
Plus I feel those people who say they can avoid trouble on their phones and even PCs by just not downloading "dodgy" code are massively underestimating the asshats out there and the ways that harmful code can be hidden. If you open a PDF or even a website, you ARE vulnerable.
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Concerning to performance issue, I do not think it's a good idea to use an antivirus app

Help! 4.2 update erased my bookmarks!

All of my bookmarks have been erased by the 4.2 update! Is there anything I can do to get them back? I am talking about the local bookmarks.
Actually, the update erased everything related to my browser: bookmarks, saved passwords, search options etc.
Chrome Browser?
Did you get OTA update or did you do something to get it?
Stock browser. OTA, just popped out of nowhere (didn't even know 4.2 was out until it showed) and I thought "why not"? Well that answers why not. I do have a backup of the bookmarks but it's over 2 months old and many are missing, probably lost forever unless someone here has any ideas on how to get them back. The missing bookmarks were the result of many hours of web searches I did at some point researching a topic and I'd really hate to think of all that wasted time. I never imagined an update would erase my bookmarks, it never happened with previous ones.
(I could never figure in titanium backup how to do scheduled backups of the bookmarks only and nothing else)
If you visit each & every site that you had bookmarked you'll find that you can tap on the star in the address bar & bookmark them all over again.
DeadlyDazza said:
If you visit each & every site that you had bookmarked you'll find that you can tap on the star in the address bar & bookmark them all over again.
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Is that intended to be sincere help or sarcasm? How is he supposed to visit each of those sites without his bookmarks?
jsmith8858 said:
Is that intended to be sincere help or sarcasm? How is he supposed to visit each of those sites without his bookmarks?
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Do you happen to have the same Book Marks on your Phone or maybe your Computer. Do you use Chrome Browser on your Computer... If not i recommend it. It as well other desktop / phone browsers will give you the option to sync them across devices.. I LOVE This feature.
Now as far it being a near end of earth catastrophe About loosing book marks. It has happened to me in the past. I just had to search for the sites i use again. I also found i had way more book mark sites then i actually use.
I think this is what the above comment meant about . Just go back to the sites and Re add them.. Some of the Inter-webs and company links are not so easy and i do feel for you for loosing them..
Good Luck.. Chrome will not get them back but could prevent this in the future..
erica_renee said:
Do you happen to have the same Book Marks on your Phone or maybe your Computer. Do you use Chrome Browser on your Computer... If not i recommend it. It as well other desktop / phone browsers will give you the option to sync them across devices.. I LOVE This feature.
Now as far it being a near end of earth catastrophe About loosing book marks. It has happened to me in the past. I just had to search for the sites i use again. I also found i had way more book mark sites then i actually use.
I think this is what the above comment meant about . Just go back to the sites and Re add them.. Some of the Inter-webs and company links are not so easy and i do feel for you for loosing them..
Good Luck.. Chrome will not get them back but could prevent this in the future..
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I don't use chrome. I have tried hard to like it, and failed. It is counterintuitive for me.
Like I said, those bookmarks were the result of many hours of research (product availability for a narrow niche market, very hard to find). I didn't have them anywhere else. I guess I will have to waste more hours to find them again.
Anyway, the 4.2 update gets a big thumbs down from me.
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For future reference, there are are apps in the play store that will back up your bookmarks.
I've lost plenty of bookmarks myself over the years. Until I started backing them up with
A third party app.
taqulic said:
For future reference, there are are apps in the play store that will back up your bookmarks.
I've lost plenty of bookmarks myself over the years. Until I started backing them up with
A third party app.
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Like I said, I use Titanium Backup and it does a good job at it, but I haven't figured out how to make it regularly backup my bookmarks only. I don't want to do a full system backup on a daily basis. I backup the bookmarks manually, but I have to remember doing that. The last time I remembered was on Sept 29th.
Another app I tried, Bookmark Sort&Backup has the nasty habit of reversing the order of my bookmarks every time I start it. (yeah I know, just run it twice) It has no automation built in it either, so all operations have to be done manually. Comes down to memory again.
That would be something nice to see in titanium... The closest you can get is to schedule
A backup for modified data. But it backs up all modified data, not individual apps.
(Pro version)
(Edit) Just realized that TB does backup individual apps with modified
Data on a schedule... If you create a filter for just that app.
I use chrome and all my bookmarks are still there. However on one game it cleared my history of winning games. No big deal.

[Q] WhatsApp backup and restore

Hi guys,
Moving from Nokia Lumia 920 to Nokia Lumia 930. Neither has SD card. Phones are developer unlocked. I keep phone number and etc.
Is there any way to keep my message history?
PD: I know it's an old question. I just can't believe there is no solution yet. Are WhatsApp developer so useless they won't use native app backup feat?
CharlyAR said:
Hi guys,
Moving from Nokia Lumia 920 to Nokia Lumia 930. Neither has SD card. Phones are developer unlocked. I keep phone number and etc.
Is there any way to keep my message history?
PD: I know it's an old question. I just can't believe there is no solution yet. Are WhatsApp developer so useless they won't use native app backup feat?
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You could sideload xap and keep doing backup by yourself using WPPT
djtonka said:
You could sideload xap and keep doing backup by yourself using WPPT
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Thanks djtonka. But I guess it will work for the next phone, right? No way to retrieve current history? :crying:
CharlyAR said:
Thanks djtonka. But I guess it will work for the next phone, right? No way to retrieve current history? :crying:
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I think it will only rewrite inastalation files without touching Data folder when you use Update option
djtonka said:
I think it will only rewrite inastalation files without touching Data folder when you use Update option
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Mhmm... Worth the shot. Thanks!
CharlyAR said:
Mhmm... Worth the shot. Thanks!
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I just tried on same YT app and an clip downloaded before ramain after Update with xap via WPPT
WhatApp is free of charge but I will send it to you via prv. Also this latest version is modyfied to instrall/move on SD card.
djtonka said:
I just tried on same YT app and an clip downloaded before ramain after Update with xap via WPPT
WhatApp is free of charge but I will send it yo you via prv. Also this latest version is modyfied to instrall/move on SD card.
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Thank you! Will try that. The tricky thing is that Lumia 920/930 doesn't have SD card. So I need the ability to move the data somewhere else. Or do something else I don't know of, of course. :silly:
In WPPT ther is a window Isolated storage, just copy the whole main folder by clicking on app name and Get to save on hard drive. After all you can import folder into app.
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In WPPT ther is a window Isolated storage, just copy the whole main folder by clicking on app name and Get to save on hard drive. After all you can import folder into app.
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Haven't used WPPT in ages. Will look into that. THANK YOU! (again)
Unfortunately, I fear this won't work. As far as I know, WhatsApp saves to *some* other directory, since it is able to find backups after the app was uninstalled. I had the same problem, but then my old phone died and I lost the messages anyways.. But at least 4 months ago, it didn't work this way. I just wanted to tell you this, don't rely on it.
I think it's because WhatsApp got the medialib photo full capability, to be able to write/read to storage before wp8.1. Maybe they used that to store the backup somewhere else.. on WP8 with SD card, they even put it on the sd card as far as I remember..
Has anyone had any luck with any other method? I would love to know how to backup Whatsapp messages / data from my Nokia 930.
Nope. Really frustrating.
CharlyAR said:
Nope. Really frustrating.
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Agreed. I guess you could just email them to yourself, but i hate that option and is a complete waste of time.
Also, be aware that you will loose any audio message and there is NO way to back that up.
Have you contacted them to ask them to enable cloud back up?
They don't bother to answer you anything more than a "currently you can't". "Talk to the hand" philosophy.
Apart from that. How is your windows phone experience?
I'm really satisfied. I love the user interface, it has all the feats I need, very stable, very sturdy devices (Lumia)... I don't picture me switching over some other existing platform.
I see you had a Lumia 930 yourself and a lot of Android devices. Even some BBs and iPhone. Any particular reason you ask?
CharlyAR said:
I'm really satisfied. I love the user interface, it has all the feats I need, very stable, very sturdy devices (Lumia)... I don't picture me switching over some other existing platform.
I see you had a Lumia 930 yourself and a lot of Android devices. Even some BBs and iPhone. Any particular reason you ask?
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I'm a smartphone addict! haha. Well, I was. I'm quite tired of Android. Even though devices change, get faster, have different materials... They always end up being the same... I want a new UI. So I had the L930 for a few days, had some really bad bugs like battery drain and got really hot. So I returned it, and got the LG G3, which is sitting on my desk. I pulled the plug again and got the L930 again due to pricing (a lot cheaper than my G3!, which has begun to lag... and for a near 500 euro phone, I can't stand that...)...
So ... That's my story! I love all smart phones, really, except the iPhone. I just really want fluidity, my apps (like for Google Music, Google Tasks, even though I don't mind switching task managers, LINE messenger and Whatsapp), and stability (like battery, and UI).
I think WP is a good bet! I just wish the 1520 cost less xD I would have purchased that one! But it costs 150-200 euros more than the 930! At least now I'll get more out of my Samsung tablet! haha. That way I have a tablet with all my "Android" stuff, and a phone that just... works
Hopefully this L930 won't come defective! From what I read, all I'd have to do is reset the phone after installing all the updates and then I'll be good to go! =D And this time instead of white, I got a green one! Woohoo!
Where do you host your contacts? And email? From outlook or gmail?
Hahaha.
I've tried Android but got tired: they always ended up lagging, crashing, etcetera. I never had to hard-reset my WP once I got them running. And I feel pretty comfortable with Windows. Even my Tablet is Surface (Pro).
I can't tell you much about the issue you experienced with the Lumia 930, I've still haven't switched my Lumia 920. But I never had that kind of experience by far. Were you running some app that could cause that? Battery for me lasts a approximately a day (WhatsApp, mails, news and calls, mostly). And definitively no overheating. Also the Lumia 930 in Spain should have at least Cyan updates... There's not much to update.
Regarding contacts, mail and calendar, I've always used Hotmail/Live/Outlook. And Live Folders/Sync/Mesh/SkyDrive/OneDrive. So, kinda "natural" for me since all gets in sync with WP. I have Gmail just as a secondary account. I did use Gmail in WP for some jobs (Gmail enterprise). Integration seemed to work, at least the basic stuff. But Exchange is Exchange...

KingRoot Information

This is the information I have gathered on KingRoot (for Windows). Please note that this is information gained by using a network monitor and the software was not reversed engineered or decompiled in any way. I am not responsible for how you use this information or any opinion you may form of this software. Lastly I am not responsible for any files downloaded or links followed from this information! Sorry, had to cover myself from slander and those who don't know what they could be getting in to
It appears to be a server side style of app. The app you install either on your phone or pc is simply the gateway to the server and the app knows how to communicate with the server. All functionality appears to be controlled server side, it should (theoretically) not matter what version of the app you are using. The Windows app for this will install the latest android version on your phone, if you do not have it installed already. It actually installs the KingRoot app but also another app named "KrHelper4Pc". This could be the stuff listed in the links and information below, I do not know for fact. The windows app is also in Chinese (I assume). However, they have an unhelpful English page that tells you how to root with the Chinese (I assume) all over it! https://kingroot.net/root-installation-via-windows-pc/
Here are some links that were found having communication:
1. http://103.7.29.26/download.sj.qq.com/qpmgr/AndroidDeviceV6.zip?mkey=58692fabc55ab7b0&f=105&c=0&p=.zip
- This is weird, it downloads a zip file but can not be opened or extracted. I know sometimes .apk files can show as .zip files, so I changed the extension to .apk and moved to my phone sdcard. Can not parse the package...no idea what this file is or how it works! You can open the zip file with wordpad and see a bunch of garbled text though.
-- http://download.sj.qq.com/qpmgr is shown as unsafe by Microsoft Safe Screen (fyi).
2. http://mp.kingroot.net/qrcode?desc=samsung%2Fklteuc%2Fklteatt:5.1.1%2FLMY47X%2FG900AUCU4COI5:user%2Frelease-keys%7CLinux%20version%203.4.0-5869384%20([email protected])%20(gcc%20version%204.8%20(GCC)%20)%20%231%20SMP%20PREEMPT%20Tue%20Sep%2022%2021:22:27%20KST%202015%7C100302&sceneType=fp&app=3
- This site leads to a QR Code at the following: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/cgi-bin/showqrcode?ticket=gQHZ7zwAAAAAAAAAAS5odHRwOi8vd2VpeGluLnFxLmNvbS9xLzAySEtERkExWHZic2UxdDVTWTFvMVMAAgRFaVVYAwQAjScA
-- Using a QR Scanner on my phone, it leads to a "webpage not available".
3. http://androidpc.app.qq.com/app1/vertis.do?id=20120810003
- Leads to: http://s.pcapps.qq.com/msoft/xml/qqapp_update_20151029.xml which does not display anything, appears to be xml file. Oddly, can not right click and view source though...
Again, this is purely information I have gathered on the use of KingRoot, take it as you wish or as you interpret it. It may (or have) work but there seems to be a lot of other traffic going on, I can not really say if it is necessarily good or bad but I would at least call it "possibly suspicious". The reason I say possibly suspicious is the fact that most "hack tools" are actually not nefarious or do not have bad intentions. They are listed this way to dissuade people from using them. If it shows as a virus, most people will not install or use the program thinking they will get infected when the app is truly not a virus or malicious.
How do I know?
Well, I cant guarantee that any software or app is safe if I did not code it. Back in the day, I used to hack the old Yahoo Messenger login protocol. By doing so, I could create bot programs that could spam, send boot codes to knock them offline and even clone other users. As you can guess, Yahoo did not like this. Yahoo then worked with anti virus companies to get programs like mine listed as a virus to dissuade people from installing them. When this happened, my inbox exploded with people screaming and cussing at me. None of my software is malicious, I would not do that. I ended up releasing my source code to prove it was safe.
Anyways, long story short...for tools like these, it is actually hard to prove if they are malicious, even if a website says so.
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johnkirchner said:
How do I know?
Well, I cant guarantee that any software or app is safe if I did not code it. Back in the day, I used to hack the old Yahoo Messenger login protocol. By doing so, I could create bot programs that could spam, send boot codes to knock them offline and even clone other users. As you can guess, Yahoo did not like this. Yahoo then worked with anti virus companies to get programs like mine listed as a virus to dissuade people from installing them. When this happened, my inbox exploded with people screaming and cussing at me. None of my software is malicious, I would not do that. I ended up releasing my source code to prove it was safe.
Anyways, long story short...for tools like these, it is actually hard to prove if they are malicious, even if a website says so.
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Well, that "zip" definitely isn't a zip ... if you look at any real zip in a text editor, the first 2 characters in the header are "PK".
(I think that's where "apk" comes from ... "Android PK).
The file is clearly data that the application decrypts.
I installed the program in Sandboxie & will poke around a little when I have time.
It might be slow going since it's all in Chinese.
There was a suggestion that I was a little overly concerned by the "intrusive" nature of Kingroot ... ha! We'll see ...
Following this for sure

Question Delayed Typing After Update

Just accepted the latest update on my S21 Ultra and noticed straight away that there is a delay on typing. Usually if I open messaging app I can tap the text box and start typing instantly. Now there's a few seconds delay so it misses off the first word or so. It's very annoying.
Happens in any app eg Messages, WhatsApp etc.
Tried Gboard which is my usual but also tested and it's the same on Asking keyboard. It's driving me mad!
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Clear system cache
Clearing cache hasn't worked. Genuinely think it's a bug with the latest update I got. Started after that and it's the only thing that's changed.
ephumuris said:
Just accepted the latest update on my S21 Ultra and noticed straight away that there is a delay on typing. Usually if I open messaging app I can tap the text box and start typing instantly. Now there's a few seconds delay so it misses off the first word or so. It's very annoying.
Happens in any app eg Messages, WhatsApp etc.
Tried Gboard which is my usual but also tested and it's the same on Asking keyboard. It's driving me mad!
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Don't see such a problem on my device...but I can't really relate to your problem literally. Do you have a video showing the lag?
It's not really obvious that I'm tapping but I press the buttons as soon as the keyboard appears.
That's horrific and it would drive me mad very quickly.
Feels like the keyboard is connecting to a service. Have you gone down the list of disabling all advanced features, like GIF/emoji integration, then enabling each one one at a time?
ephumuris said:
Clearing cache hasn't worked. Genuinely think it's a bug with the latest update I got. Started after that and it's the only thing that's changed.
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Try in safe mode.
Your phone is probably recalibrating. Suffer for another day or 2 and it will likely go away.
Really don't see it in my device. Have you tried another keyboard. I'm on SwiftKey and don't have this issue.
amirage said:
Really don't see it in my device. Have you tried another keyboard. I'm on SwiftKey and don't have this issue.
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The Samsung keyboard is one of the best, so much so many prefer it. I've been using the same Samsung keyboard layout for almost 8 years. One of the few things Samsung hasn't screwed up, but they are on a roll
This delay glitch is unacceptable... drop the ball Sammy.
Am I missing an update or so? I don't see this delay...hmm
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Am I missing an update or so? I don't see this delay...hmm
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It may only adversely effect certain production batches. Update roulette...
It could well be due to messaging app iso the keyboard.
It seems the messaging app may be waiting for voice input.
See SS of OP's screen video, and the circled icon...
OnnoJ said:
It could well be due to messaging app iso the keyboard.
It seems the messaging app may be waiting for voice input.
See SS of OP's screen video, and the circled icon...View attachment 5576263
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Good point. Intelligent phones aren't that intelligent and many of those features rely on internet connection to process the raw voice inputs. Not sure if this is one but it likely is.
I disable voice to text, always... and little Bixby too
I've factory reset. Gone through the pain of installing all my apps and it's still the same.
Very good points regarding services I think I'll try and disable anything voice related as I don't use that!
Ok disabled the voice stuff I could find and it's still doing it. Driving me friggin mad!!
ephumuris said:
Ok disabled the voice stuff I could find and it's still doing it. Driving me friggin mad!!
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Clear system cache. Hard reboot.
Device Care>Battery, make sure ALL power management is disabled, except display setting which should be optimized or higher.
If still doing it Device Care>memory, clear the cache, now use the keyboard and immediately go back to memory and see what was added. Those are potential seauspects.
I'll add to blackhawk's instructions - kill your data & wifi then reboot and try again (with the data & wifi still off). So often when a computer has these little lags, it's data connection related - like something is phoning home or phoning out. I'm getting that gut feeling with this one too.
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I'll add to blackhawk's instructions - kill your data & wifi then reboot and try again. So often when a computer has these little lags, it's data connection related - like something is phoning home or phoning out. I'm getting that gut feeling with this one too.
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Add a network reset to the list and a carrier network reset.
I never liked voice commands; when you're out of the streets, driving, walking, jogging, whatever... the phone needs to disappear.
It's a liability, not asset. You need to be paying attention to your surroundings not matter how boring or inconvenient it seems.
Bad things happen fast, you need to be ready... not jerking off with the phone.
Even when talking, you are being distracted. The man with no name knew that...
Check your Access point settings too.
On my AT&T NXTGENPHONE profile I found that instead of "hipri" (high priority) it had "fota" (Firmware Over-The-Air) which I don't want.
So I created a new profile and tested it. Instant download speed increase it seems... still testing.
APN type default,mms,supl,hipri
My original profile was set as IPv4/IPv6, which I used on my new profile instead of the AT&T suggested IPv4 only.
APN protocol IPv4
If you do this create a new profile with a different name so you can retain your original one too.
Don't forget to fill in any relevant spaces on the new and leave the blank ones blank unless you know better.
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For other carriers you'll need to up their APN specs.

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