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Things to not do (or to think about) after Root...for now

The users. First off I want to make this very clear, I am not responsible for anything nor is droidxforums for any damages done to devices due to root, since it was up to the user to make the decisions they make. Thank you, please continue to read.
1. First off I am posting this for reasons that were obvioulsy not too obvious.
2. If you chose to delete anything other than something that can be downloaded from the market, YOU took that risk. You have potentially just bricked your device.
3. DO NOT DELETE ANYTHING THAT HAS "BLUR" IN ITS FILE NAME.
4. DO NOT try to flash a custom recovery via Rom Manager then wonder why your phone is stuck with a cool new Motorola logo.
5. This thread will be updated very frequently, before posting questions and what not, just post your problem, no questions please, I will be using this to help as many of you as possible.
6. Most importantly do not mess with the framework right now, there is many $600 papers weights laying around now.
7. DO NOT TOUCH BACK UP ASSISTANCE UNLESS ITS WINDY IN YOUR HOUSE OR OFFICE AND YOU NEED A PAPER WEIGHT.
Thank you.
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Source and discussion: http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/hacking-help/1510-ultimate-wrong-doings.html
If you do remove some of the bloat and need to copy the files back without bootlooping (grdm)
Read this http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/d...ant-if-you-removed-but-arent-bootlooping.html
Thread discussion on what apps are safe to remove and hard reset without bootloops
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/1347-removing-bloat.html
Stock DroidX software, for un-bloating and hard resets (grdm)
http://www.chadhaney.com/droidXDefault/

Way to be lookin' out for your community. Props man!!!

Anyone know what the 3g mobile hotspot app is listed as in system/apps? I can't find it
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sp1kez said:
Anyone know what the 3g mobile hotspot app is listed as in system/apps? I can't find it
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Mynet.apk
P.S. don't removed backupassistanceclient.apk!!! It will result in a near brick if you try to factory reset after it has been removed.
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We tested this last nite,, you can do basically whatever you want as long as you put the phone back to pristine condition before you do a wipe or update or whatever..
Here is the basic method that works to copy files back to the phone if you took out bloat..
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/1462-how-put-back-backup-assistant-if-you-removed-but-arent-bootlooping.html
Works with all system apks, though.

grdm said:
We tested this last nite,, you can do basically whatever you want as long as you put the phone back to pristine condition before you do a wipe or update or whatever..
Here is the basic method that works to copy files back to the phone if you took out bloat..
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/1462-how-put-back-backup-assistant-if-you-removed-but-arent-bootlooping.html
Works with all system apks, though.
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I just saw this myself today, OP has been updated with this link

If i root, will i be excluded from the 2.2 update duke late summer?
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GoldenCyn said:
If i root, will i be excluded from the 2.2 update duke late summer?
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It seems that no one knows for sure.
People have been able to root, re-copy any removed system applications ( blockbuster, skype, etc..) apply the .604 update and stay rooted
Only time will tell for sure

I only deleted Blockbuster, Skype, NFSShift, and AmazonMP3/Kindle apps. Would I need to put those back on and unroot if I wanted to do a hard reset?

From what I hear, you need to put back ALL of the apps that came with the phone to apply the .604 update
Un-rooting doesn't seem to be necessary
Here is a thread discussion on what apps are safe to remove and hard reset without bootloops
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/1347-removing-bloat.html
Here is a list and downloads of all of the default DroidX apps
http://alldroid.org/default.aspx?g=posts&t=515

zanix said:
From what I hear, you need to put back ALL of the apps that came with the phone to apply the .604 update
Un-rooting doesn't seem to be necessary
Here is a thread discussion on what apps are safe to remove and hard reset without bootloops
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/1347-removing-bloat.html
Here is a list and downloads of all of the default DroidX apps
http://alldroid.org/default.aspx?g=posts&t=515
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He is correct, we have had phones with tons removed, copied everythign back with the right permissions, took out all the things that root did, basically un-rooting, apply the update, then re-root, so you will have to put the phone back to pristine before the update, but it works fine.
At least it does for now. As for the rooting, it is a huge gaping hole in linux/android, not a specific phone or phone home launcher so it will likely not be fixed until at least Gingerbread 3.0 IF THEN. Bird really smoked the monkey on this one, i would marry him if it was legal.
But yeah, dont freak out if u removed a ton of stuff, here is a complete pristine system app dir if u need:
http://www.chadhaney.com/droidXDefault/
Zanix, thanks for updating into the post, i hope it ends up helping people.

Updated OP with direct link to original .apk list

Hey,
Where can I find a list of the correct permissions? I removed like 5 apps and copied them back and still the update fails.
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Check the permissions from one of the files you did not remove
I'm not 100% sure that will work

It is 644 if I recall correctly.

I think you need to check the umask for each file as well

ON the post on how to put back backup assistant it tells you the permissions for all the files in the app dir
its in the first post

So I wanted to install a status bar replacement for Droid X, which involves replacing framework-res.apk. Instead of doing it through adb, I replaced the file with Root Explorer, and it sent it into boot loop. Do I now have a paperweight? =/
I tried doing factory reset, but that didn't fix it...
Edit: It sees update.zip on my SD card in recovery mode (some file I think I downloaded before), so is there a way to maybe apply a recovery command to replace framework-res.apk?
Edit2: sigh, nvm, there is no update.zip on the SD card, I'm not sure where it's reading it from. But when I tell it to apply it, it doesn't find it either. Looks like I bricked my phone

Has anyone been using Autostarts to block the bloat from loading on boot?
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The Titanium Backup "Freeze" feature has been working like a charm for me. I've frozen all of the bloatware (the autorun stuff) and seen no adverse effects on the phone.
The phone seems to perform better without the running bloat. But this might be a placebo effect. The jury is still out...I'm testing. One thing is for sure, I feel better knowing that useless extra processes are not running in the background.
The big open question for me is how does the TB Freeze function work? Is it like the task killers or does it intercept the app on boot?
It does not change anything in the root directory since all the *.apk files are in tact for the frozen apps. This is the main reason I use the freeze since there seems to be little risk of bricking the phone with this method.

ROOT OPTIONS FOR ZIO 2.2 Cricket

I'm using Universal Androot, Ti Back Up Pro, Root Explorer, SetCPU, Ad Free Android for Root, Launcher Pro Plus, QuickBoot(not sure if this works with the phone yet) and I used Uninstaller for Root to erase all the bloatware and BS. Did a great job too, didn't have to track down all the files individually. Anyway I wanted a place for everyone, especially noobs like me to have a place to come and get advice about things over our heads. Oh yeah and I have a custom startup sound thanks to the Boot Screen thread. Working on getting all the images to replace the Cricket screen now. This is my first android, and WILL NOT be my last.

Awesomeness!
I had attempted a root on my Zio when it was stuck on 1.6 but my prayers were answered with this weeks update! So, thanks for this thread man. I'm already loving 2.2 and I'm about to try your root process and see how it goes. I'm so happy I can finally use this thing! I actually parted ways with my iPhone today. I'm just going to invest in a bigger sd card.
Anywho, I'm still hoping for some custom Zio ROMS in the future.
I'll let ya know how the root turns out.

Cinas said:
I'm just going to invest in a bigger sd card.
Anywho, I'm still hoping for some custom Zio ROMS in the future.
I'll let ya know how the root turns out.
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Yeah I have an 8GB and it's not going to be enough soon, especially when ROMS start coming out, that is if we ever get clockworkmod support. Until then rooting and using custom launchers is about as good as it gets. Tons and tons of reading helps. The more the merrier.

just installed a custom boot screen over the Cricket one. With a custom boot sound. Got the boot screen from fate43 over in the Boot Screen thread. Good work and much thanks. made the boot sound with a music file converter I DLed from Google here on the comp. Freakin kid in a candy store I tell ya........

Done!
So I ended up using Universal Androot to root and Super Manager to get rid of the bloatware. So far so good.
I've got the stock 1G sd card now and I never wanted to bother upgrading since I had 32G on my iPhone. I don't miss that thing at all now. I'm finally freeeeeee!!!
Now for boot screens and beyond.
This is far more rewarding that jailbreaking any ....other....devices.

Which version of Universal Androot did you use?

1.6.5.2 beta I do believe were the numbers. I go to look to be sure and it's just gone from my phone. So look around, just type it in to the search bar or google it. I'm almost certain of the numbers though.

hmmm thats the only one ive been finding id post a link but it wont let me because im so noob on this forum. Im new to android so i'm hesitant to root it until I know I can return to stock. Any recommendations for being prepared to do this? would I need to rip the current stock rom?

krunkpirate said:
hmmm thats the only one ive been finding id post a link but it wont let me because im so noob on this forum. Im new to android so i'm hesitant to root it until I know I can return to stock. Any recommendations for being prepared to do this? would I need to rip the current stock rom?
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rooting your phone does not alter the "stock" rom in the way you're thinking - once you root, you can never go back - this is not true. All rooting does is give you super user access, so you _can_ use apps that require root access (like widgets for rebooting, root file explorer, setcpu, task killers, etc...), as well as other benefits.
Universal androot makes it way too easy to root/unroot your phone (one clickety to root, one clackety to unroot).
Once you get a little more familiar with android, you'll be able to really see the benefits of having root.

Thanks for the info
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No luck with boot screens so far but I get the general idea. A project for another day. I'm gonna see how this thing syncs with Ubuntu.
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when using 1.6 androot and root explorer worked perfectly now with 2.2 when i goto root root works fine (im taking it does as it said woot your phone is rooted but then goto bring up root explorer it tells me to force close it. i restart my phone and i dont root it root explorer works fine leave root explorer running then root my phone then go back to root explorer and refresh it just sits there at a black screen can any one help me fix this so i can root my phone again as i had to get a replacement phone and lost my boot up scrren i made.

Sounds to me like you flubbed up somewhere. Unroot, factory reset. Reinstall. Make sure you're still rooted(should be). I had same problems. Only factory reset helped. Make sure you back up first!!!!
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b4 you reset the phone and go through that whole process, try wiping the data cache of all of your apps that use root. Menu>Settings>Applications>Manage Apps>Root Explorer>Clear Data

I probably needed that. Taken care of now and forever more. Thanks fate

Fate43 said:
b4 you reset the phone and go through that whole process, try wiping the data cache of all of your apps that use root. Menu>Settings>Applications>Manage Apps>Root Explorer>Clear Data
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Did what you said fate and it still wants to fc even with the new version of root explorer i even did a hard reset like i just took it out of the box with 2.2 on it and still the same and the only 2 programs i installed was root explorer v2.14.1 and androot v1.6.2 beta 5 and im doing the soft root btw but i doubt that would make a differnce. I do know that when i soft root and have wifi enabled my wifi meter on the task bar will disappear and when i goto settings to turn it back on under wifi it says error in small letters the only way to get wifi back is to reboot the phone. Fixing pcs and windows is alot easyer then phones lol.
I tryed to use another program that you need to have root access the program is root uninstaller and it fails to install while the phone is rooted restarted the phone that root uninstaller installed fine and did a soft root with androot the program will come up but wont let me uninstall anything but yet androot is saying woot your device is rooted. I'm starting to think universal androot dont work right no more on android 2.2 as it worked perfectly on android 1.6 and all my apps worked perfectly to root now i can't root at all any other way to root other then androot?

Try z4root to root your phone
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Thanks for the quick reply will google search for it now

Mattix724 said:
Try z4root to root your phone
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Thanks that worked great

ya have to use regular root or when u use soft root when u reboot it reverts back to stock. just fyi.hope this helps

[Q] Backup phone befor Root

Hey XDA members
Been reading around on Rooting my LG optimus 2x.
I don't really have any problems with it, but i would like to remove some of the bloatware LG put on it..
I read that you can root it with super one click ? and not really worried about the rooting part itself.. but more worried i might brick it, or delete an app i might regret later..
So here comes my questions
1. If i root the phone, and start deleting stuff. and i later regret having rooted, can i just then do a factory reset and all the original apps get back ? or do i need to make a backup of the phone as it is now, befor i start toying ?
2. If i root the phone, only to delete bloatware, and then unroot the phone after deletion of the stuff i don't want anymore. can i then still receive updates from LG ?
3.When unrooting the phone with one-click will it be possible to trace that is has been rooted ?
and the last question - I hear from someone that when rooting the phone, it becomes more exposed to viruses and malware., is that correct ? or does it only come into account when you use the actual rooting to install apps from outside the market ?
Sorry for all the questions, and if they have been anwsered many times befor, tried searching but didn't really feel i got the anwsers i was looking for
Cheers
Fox

To be safe, backup everything using ROM Manager and your sdcard (internal n external).. try download your corresponding ROM (smartflash is better) just in case you need to have it totally stock.
To remove bloatware, there are 2 ways.. safer way is to use an app (i used App Quarantine). The app is still in the storage, but it wont show in the category or run it. Second, using app like Root Explorer, by browsing /system/app, you can just delete the unwanted bloatwares.
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you don't need to backup, if only to root. root won't get your device bricked

[Q] [rooted] How to remove bloatware?

I just got this phone last Friday. It's my first Android phone, but I've used Android before on my Kindle Fire, which I rooted and tried all sorts of ROMs and customized the hell out of it.
So I was really excited today when I found out about the root package! I just got it rooted, had to factory reset first, but that's OK. But since my phone is a Canada Bell model (and I live in the US), it's a got a bunch of apps that I can't use and don't want.
I googled and found a site that gives a tutorial how to use Android Mate to remove the crapware, but in searching through /system/apps, I don't see the Bell stuff, maybe I missed it or it's named something different.
Any tried doing this yet?

Instead of removing them, I suggest you freeze them with titanium backup. Download it from play store, open it, click restore/backup, tap the app you don't want and select freeze. It saves headache and it's not like our phone has a lack of free memory
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capran said:
I just got this phone last Friday. It's my first Android phone, but I've used Android before on my Kindle Fire, which I rooted and tried all sorts of ROMs and customized the hell out of it.
So I was really excited today when I found out about the root package! I just got it rooted, had to factory reset first, but that's OK. But since my phone is a Canada Bell model (and I live in the US), it's a got a bunch of apps that I can't use and don't want.
I googled and found a site that gives a tutorial how to use Android Mate to remove the crapware, but in searching through /system/apps, I don't see the Bell stuff, maybe I missed it or it's named something different.
Any tried doing this yet?
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To answer your question, and not give unwanted advice, the apks you're looking for will be located in /vendor/app

ATGAdmin said:
To answer your question, and not give unwanted advice, the apks you're looking for will be located in /vendor/app
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Found them, but it won't let me delete, keeps saying they're read only ;(

Hemotherapy said:
Found them, but it won't let me delete, keeps saying they're read only ;(
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You need to switch to r/w in whatever explorer you're in. Either that, or you're not rooted
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System Tuner allows you to uninstall system apps as. Forgot that setcpu wakes up the phone a lot when profiles are active but system tuner is also good for underclocking.
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Use Titanium Backup and just freeze as was already mentioned. Otherwise, you'll be screwed when we get jelly bean because you won't get the update without all stock apps.

dnorthington said:
Use Titanium Backup and just freeze as was already mentioned. Otherwise, you'll be screwed when we get jelly bean because you won't get the update without all stock apps.
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How do you get back all the Stock apps?

[ QUOTE=dnorthington;33064453]Use Titanium Backup and just freeze as was already mentioned. Otherwise, you'll be screwed when we get jelly bean because you won't get the update without all stock apps.[/QUOTE]
In case you haven't been paying attention to the update schedule, here it is http://phandroid.com/2012/10/19/mot...-updates-jelly-bean-release-schedule-as-well/
We won't be getting JB until next year.
If we don't have a recovery program by then to flash ROMs, this phone won't be worth keeping.
So your point is moot.
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Good day friends,
I did erase APK's from /system/app and /system/vendor/app and /system/preinstalled/, but, i till get the icons for att familymap, amazon kindle, live tv, mesages, myatt, qik lite and real racing2.
Is there anything else i am missing in order to get rid of this apps ?
I do understand the phone has enough resources to carry these apps around, but i just dont like having stuff that i dont really use.
Also, I know how to fastboot to fxz in case i screw something up.

Use titanium to un install them
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alright then, ill give it a shot !
Yep, a combination of TiBu and rm -r did the trick ! thank you very much !

I went crazy after root and deleted almost all bloatware...
However I realized that after deleting YP mobile stock app, the option in contacts for YP does not work
I re-downloaded YP from the market but it's still no go...
Can somebody upload stock YP apk and tell me where to put it since I am not sure was it in system/app or in system/vendor/app
Or at least if you can give me name of the original stock app and its location I can try to rename the one from the market and move it to its appropriate folder.
Thanks

fierce_brake said:
Good day friends,
I did erase APK's from /system/app and /system/vendor/app and /system/preinstalled/, but, i till get the icons for att familymap, amazon kindle, live tv, mesages, myatt, qik lite and real racing2.
Is there anything else i am missing in order to get rid of this apps ?
I do understand the phone has enough resources to carry these apps around, but i just dont like having stuff that i dont really use.
Also, I know how to fastboot to fxz in case i screw something up.
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As mentioned already, look in /system/vendor/app
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Addition
I have made a new idea on removing bloatwares. The idea is that the user can select the apps that are to be deleted in aroma. I have already made a project regarding this but only for my device. You can port it to your device and maybe share this with everyone.
Link to my thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2632355
With some changes, it will work great and our community can develop!!

Stock HTC ROM

I flashed the stock htc rom i downloaded from here and then got titanium backup and uninstalled a bunch of apps i was never going to use, like the original internet, email and kid mode apps) and they keep reinstalling themselves. What am i missing and how do i make them disappear forever?

freeze them

IINexusII said:
freeze them
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how do i do that? and whats that do, just keep them from connecting to the internet and redownloading themselves?

Dl and install this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.timos.htconerw
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Sindroid said:
Dl and install this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.timos.htconerw
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Would root be any benefit for this? I mean if he has root can he delete them for good?

Rex2369 said:
Would root be any benefit for this? I mean if he has root can he delete them for good?
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He is rooted, otherwise Titanium Backup wouldn't have worked for him in the first place. I could be wrong, though.

Personally I'd rather remove all apps I don't want or need rather than freeze them ... There's **** on my phone that I just want gone completely and not just disbaled or frozen, Facebook integration and Blinkfeed would be gone straight away lol

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He is rooted, otherwise Titanium Backup wouldn't have worked for him in the first place. I could be wrong, though.
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I'm rooted. And I can delete them but they magically get redownloaded and installed again An hour later. I want them gone for good
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I have not tried removing system applications using TitaniumBackup on my HTC One, to be honest with you, and I am running stock, non-rooted and odexed 4.2.2 which I am going to root in a few. I think the only option you have at the moment is to freeze them until you can figure something out. The only other option I could think of is installing a custom ROM which I believe lets you delete them without having to worry about them coming back, like TrickDroid, for instance.

Tried to dl that app yet? I had the same prob when running stock for a while. Sorted my issues.
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