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ive been trying to download and play video podcasts on my g1 but every video player ive tried wont play it. im assuming its something to do with diffrent AR than the handset screen. is there anyway to play video podcasts on the go?
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We need more information... Can you give us links to the video files you're trying to play? It really wont work properly unless the video is 480x320 or less and video bitrate is < 768 kbps. As for aspect ration it really shouldn't matter if the res is smaller than the g1 screen.
so there is no android equivalent to say vlc which can set the video size to fit the screen?
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so there is no android equivalent to say vlc which can set the video size to fit the screen?
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No, there's no Android equivalent to VLC.. The problem isn't so much the size or aspect ratio, as the codec (video format). Android can't handle many formats.. h.264 is the only thing I know for sure. And like the other poster said, have to keep the bitrate low. I've managed 768 before, but it was unreliable (would skip, hang if I tried to jump around a lot). Probably need 512 or so to be safe.
so is there a decent free video podcast player? i want to watch the ted talks which are in mp4.
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Hey guys,
I was thinking about buying a Nook color but I had one question.
Will the Nook Color be able to play 720p mkv files? With subtitles? I noticed that the archos 70 can play 720p mkv files and It seems to me the cpu is similar in both units.
I am pretty uninformed about this topic so I was hoping if anyone could enlighten me? I did not want false expectations that one day someone will be able to get it to work on the Nook Color.
Btw I know that Nook Color can not play it natively, but since the archos 70 I was wondering if the Nook Color could 2 in the future?
Thanks for your help!
is there an app?
At the moment, I don't believe the nook will play .mkv files without rooting it. I haven't rooted mine yet (waiting to see if 2.2 really does come out next month and what changes it brings, first) so can't say if there is an app that will play them.
I would think that it could, as long as the necessary app is installed and the codecs are available. The hardware seems like it would be perfectly capable of playing a 720p file, no matter the format, it would just be squished down to the correct resolution of 600 (or smaller depending on ratio).
Don't know about 720p, but as long as the video and audio streams are something the NC recognizes it should play an MKV (h.264, mp4 for video, aac or mp3 for audio). Although I had much better luck with just straight up mp4 files.
The built in player only even showed subtitles if they were hardcoded to the video.
i can play 720p mp4 files just fine with no lag what so ever.. Quality is awesome.. Rock Player doesn't like MKVs or AVIs, it will play them just really really slow..
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i can play 720p mp4 files just fine with no lag what so ever.. Quality is awesome.. Rock Player doesn't like MKVs or AVIs, it will play them just really really slow..
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Are you using the stock player or Rock Player?
rock player plays mkv's fine on my evo but i cant get it to activate on my nook
mvideo player plays mkv 720p anime with subtitles that i have on my samsung captivate. (although it seems you have to start the video from beginning to end (ie: can't skip around) or the audio will get out of sync)
wondering if you download android market and get mvideo player if mkv 720p subtitles will work on nook color as well.
if so i would be interested in the ereader/tablet
Why? The root takes approximitly 15 to 20 minutes. Is practically completly automated, and improves the device 500%.
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i can play 720p mp4 files just fine with no lag what so ever.. Quality is awesome.. Rock Player doesn't like MKVs or AVIs, it will play them just really really slow..
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I loaded up a 800mb standard def AVI and it played fine in rockplayer. Bit of stutter at the start but it smooths right out after about 10 seconds. Just FYI
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Nook Color can only play these video formats: 3GP, 3G2, MP4, M4V, and OGG. And supports MPEG-4 Simple Profile up to 854×480, H.263 up to 352×288, and H.264 Baseline profile up to 854×480. So if u want to enjoy video on Nook Color, u should convert video to Nook Color compatible formats. I suggest u a powerful video converter called Foxreal Video Converter, which enables convert all video formats to Nook Color with the optimized video format (MP4, 854×480, H.264 codec, 1500kbps avg bitrate, AAC 48KHz 160Kbps) to give user the best visual enjoyment.
U can try it, hopefully it can help u.
Tim
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You can download an app from market and then you can watch rmvb on Nook Color. So, your post is not 100% accurate.
There are a couple apps vplayer and rockplayer that can play just about every format on armv7l (our cpu)
More importantly I heard the ffree and awesome VLC player is coming to android VERY soon, that will be the best for the NC for sure
I have tried half a dozen video apps and have been unable to play 720p mkv.
720p youtube vids don't work
I tried downloading 720p and 1080p videos from youtube with tubemate and they wouldn't play. They'd skip and stutter - totally unwatchable.
Also just tried playing a 180meg 720p AVI of the office in VPlayer. The video plays fluidly but the audio is completely out of sync.
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I have tried half a dozen video apps and have been unable to play 720p mkv.
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Nook color's GPU limitation. Max it can play back is 854×480.
See 3 posts up.
From Nook color spec on nookdevs.com site.
GPU Processor: PowerVR SGX530 - Hardware Scaling: 854x480 scaled to 1024x600
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I'm afraid 720p and 1080p are out of the question.
What's the point of 720p on a 480p device? Do you just not want to convert your video files?
Sent from my Nook Color.
Vplayer works better than rockplayer. Plays mkv. Ratings are bad because developer said application would always be free than started to charge for it. Paid version is highly rated
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What's the point of 720p on a 480p device? Do you just not want to convert your video files?
Sent from my Nook Color.
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Because the nook's screen is 600 pixels so 720 would be the smallest "standard" size that doesn't have to be up-converted.
I play mkv files on my HTC Desire - Rockplayer and others all stuttered and displayed a blocky effect.
Then I installed Vital Player (neon) and they all player wonderfully - even 70p ones! For some reason it struggles with 720p mp4 files but who uses those?
The chip that handles video on the NC wants to play video smaller than 854x480.
Any video larger than that will not go through the hardware accelerator.
I have a thread where I attached a handbrake preset for the NC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992214
If you use that preset, you have to set the video size yourself (defaults to original size)
Use the original size if it is smaller than 854x480. If it is larger (like 720p would be) then set it to 854 width with "Keep Aspect Ratio" and the video file that handbrake puts out will be nook hardware accelerated.
Also, MoboPlayer is much better than the alternatives as far as the player itself goes.
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Nook color's GPU limitation. Max it can play back is 854×480.
See 3 posts up.
From Nook color spec on nookdevs.com site.
I'm afraid 720p and 1080p are out of the question.
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I read entire thread but I really want to know why archos 70 or 101 (with same GPU!) manages to play 720p hardware accelerated.
Can anyone with a *rooted* NC tell us a bit about video quality on the device. Basically, I am curious about the capabilities to play "scene" quality xvid/classic divx materials. Ie conforming to specs.
I kind of guess that the processor would hold up, but I am not sure.
I am only interested in locally stored content, ie on sd card (for simplicity's sake, let's assume that we have a plain vanilla SDHC card).
Cheers,
My experience with Rock and other players except the standard one (and that was for MP4 only) has been less than stellar.
Like other users on here, I am getting audio-visual lag, leading to me having to pre-convert everything for the device in order to get a working copy. The lag is slight on AVI files and MKV files grind down to a slideshow while the audio stays straight on, leading me to believe that whatever back-end conversion is being done on-the-fly is killing the processor.
My guess is that once we have Froyo (or god willing, Gingerbread), we'll have much better MKV and AVI playback. Until then, I suggest conversion if you've got the time or Rockplayer if you don't mind a bit of lag on AVI files. Hope that helps!
An unrooted NC plays my AutoGk 480p rips in the built in player if you remux it into an .mp4 file with AAC audio.
I get lag also. Weird thing is if you stream a video from the twit app it looks really good and no lag at all.
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Ok guys, great, I appreciate the info - thanks!!!
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An unrooted NC plays my AutoGk 480p rips in the built in player if you remux it into an .mp4 file with AAC audio.
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This is something most people don't realize you can do. The video stream in an xvid/divx avi CAN be read by most mp4-friendly devices. But it's in a container they don't know how to read, and may have an auto track they can't read.
You can remux is with any one of a number of tools to drop it into an mp4 file without reencoding the video (and, depending on the source material, possibly reencoding the audio, which is super-fast on any modern machine).
Since the stock NC has no frame buffers enabled video performance will suffer ... when it is eventually enabled (it will be) performance should be good.
I was going to start a thread similar to this but more asking what format is best on the NC.
I've tried some standard xvids in rockplayer, and there is a slight lag on the audio. But enough that makes it annoying to watch.
When rockplayer first opens a video, I get a prompt on hardware or software decoding, I tried hardware and obviously that fails.
So does the NC support hardware assisted format? if so, what format exactly? What codec, bit rate limits, accepted resolutions etc. And not only for smoother playback, but I assume hardware assist would save (a lot?) on battery performance.
I used it encode a lot back in the day, using tmpgenc, virtualdub and avisynth, but I haven't touched any of that in ages. Has someone wrote a guide regarding this specific to the NC?
If you look at the Nook Color spec sheet, one of the supported video formats is H.264. I've gotten hardware-assisted playback of H.264 on my Nook - plays and looks great.
However!
The Nook only supports H.264 baseline profile. If you use Handbrake to encode, use the iPhone/iPod preset as a starting point. Then you can up the bitrate, resolution etc from there.
Another note: I've found the built-in player does not know about anamorphic ratios, so the videos are scaled incorrectly.
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So does the NC support hardware assisted format?
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Yes. Sort of.
The OMAP3621 does have dedicated video decoding hardware. Unfortunately, it's pretty well locked down by the manufacturer. You don't get access to the hardware without a license, which means most (all?) 3rd party players aren't going to be able to utilize it. It sucks, but it seems to be par for the course for smartphone/tablet chips these days.
Another note: I've found the built-in player does not know about anamorphic ratios, so the videos are scaled incorrectly.
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The OMAP3621 does have dedicated video decoding hardware. Unfortunately, it's pretty well locked down by the manufacturer. You don't get access to the hardware without a license, which means most (all?) 3rd party players aren't going to be able to utilize it. It sucks, but it seems to be par for the course for smartphone/tablet chips these days.
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Well, I was going to say I'll use rockplayer so I don't have to add borders or something to force aspect, but then I read no one else can access the hardware encoder and this is typical?!
Sigh.. It never ends the way they try and lock these devices down. This sure ain't the pc world (which it should be, but they are trying to get it 'right' this time.)
So you refer to the TI, is this also true of the Nook Color?
At any rate, I'll remuxing as suggested earlier in this thread to mp4 container. What the best (hopefully free/open source) remuxer these days?
I used YAMB but I don't know if something better exists. If you use YAMB, you'll have to convert any AC3 audio to AAC ahead of time. I didn't test if MP3 audio is supported.
Hopefully VLC will be ported to Android too, would seem to be a more "natural" fit than the iPad it currently runs on!
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Yes, very.
If it's any consolation, it's not the device manufacturers or android team that is to blame, it's the chip manufacturers. The SoC in the NC is made by TI, who licenses all the different cores they stick in their chips. In this case, the video decoding hardware is part of the SGX530 GPU core licensed from PowerVR. While TI pays for the right to use the core in their chips, any software dev who wants to actually take advantage of the decoding hardware has to pay PowerVR for the drivers that allow them to do so. It's pretty crappy from our perspective, but it is their IP so it's their prerogative. I'm sure the chip, device and software makers would all prefer to use open hardware, but there are not currently any open GPU cores out there. At least, none that come within a mile of the "locked down" ones.
The M4V fileformat plays awesome on the NC and the quality is exceptional even with smaller filesizes (370ish megs for a full length movie) No lag at all.
The player I use is: mVideoPlayer (Free)
search for “mVideoPlayer” without the quotes in the android market.
PS It can play most (if not all) formats supported by Android/NC.
OMAP 3621 has a C64x+DSP
The OMAP 3621 has a C64x+DSP. That should be usable for hardware video decoding. In fact I beleive that TI has made video codecs available for their DSPs in the past, and there was even a Google Summer of Code project to create a Theora codec for the DSP.
This TI page tells you that the 3621 has a C64x+DSP: http://newscenter.ti.com/Blogs/news...ers-costs-for-ebook-manufacturers-305022.aspx
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The M4V fileformat plays awesome on the NC and the quality is exceptional even with smaller filesizes (370ish megs for a full length movie) No lag at all.
The player I use is: mVideoPlayer (Free)
search for “mVideoPlayer” without the quotes in the android market.
PS It can play most (if not all) formats supported by Android/NC.
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I'll second that. mVideoPlayer is the best thing going, also does subtitles if you've got them (use same filename, eg. MyVid.m4v + MyVid.srt)
If you end up converting videos I have had success with Handbrake (nightly build) using the iPhone profile, 720px width, 2 ref frames. Video bitrate at 900kbps seems to be enough (650kbps for Pixar films).
I think the B&N website explicitly states that the hardware video decoder renders everything to 854x480 and upscales all video to fit the screen. If you're converting just for the NC, it might be a waste to go above that resolution.
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I'll second that. mVideoPlayer is the best thing going, also does subtitles if you've got them (use same filename, eg. MyVid.m4v + MyVid.srt)
If you end up converting videos I have had success with Handbrake (nightly build) using the iPhone profile, 720px width, 2 ref frames. Video bitrate at 900kbps seems to be enough (650kbps for Pixar films).
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Ah yeah about the subs... In mVideo If you long press on any movie in your list one of the options is to download subs for that movie (there are some other things hidden there as well). It doesn't always find them but the option is there.
Thanks to the people over at Modaco I found out that a new Rock player is out
The latest 1.5.x release adds network streaming (via browser integration) and optimisations for Tegra 2 hardware.
If you have another ver. installed please uninstall it. Go to the market install 1.5.0 when you start it, it will have an update to 1.5.1 and once installed just activate it. (if you have a paid copy) if not it will have ads paid is only $9.99
The new update works great, this thing fly's and has loaded everything I throw at it.
Web streaming is easy I have Tversity setup on my home pc and a link to the IP in my browse I just select what I want to see and the stream starts right away in rockplayer.
I am still testing it, but so far this thing is WIN!
Really? Sweeeet. Ima try out som HD Videos now see how they run!
Just saw it on my Captivate. Trying it now on the Gtab
Let's see it play 720p MKV files natively. I'll be really excited if it can. Will try later.
I just tried a .mov (don't know how it was encoded) it played but like 1 fps and sound dropped out after. 1 minute. I then tried an H.264 .mp4. Same deal. Both were 1080p.
What is the gtab supposed to play 1080p in? Any one know?
The only video I had on my Gtab was a 720p 3211kbps XviD with AC3 audio. I tried playing it using hardware decode and it played beautifully but with no audio
Haven't had time to try anything else yet. Will post results when I get a chance.
So I am pretty disappointed with this update. I still can't play H.264 or mkv MPEG4 files in 1080p. The Tegra 2 is supposed to have an on-chip processor for H.264, but this does not seem to take advantage of it.
Thanks for the headsup on this one.
I downloaded and installed.
When I play my 720p mp4 movies, not sure how they are encoded, it asks me if I want hardware decoding mode or software. Which one should I pick?
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I always try hardware first if it fails then I go software.
OK, so after a bunch of trial and error I got 1080p playing in Rockplayer 1.51 with hardware decoding. The file NEEDS to be an MP4 container encoded with MPEG. I used Handbrake to get it done. Everything else I tried doesn't work one way or another, either FC, no sound or no video. I hope this helps someone.
Using 1.51 with TnT 3.0, hardware acceleration mode resets my Gtablet. Screen blacks out and then reboots, starting at the fireworks streamer spash screen.
Tried multiple times with different files with same result.
yea the tab is unable to play videos encoded in High Profile due to hardware limitations with the Tegra chip. it only works with Baseline and Main profile. from my experience, Main gives a cleaner picture than Baseline does. if its encoded in High, the video will just stutter.
was excited to see that the new Rockplayer was Tegra optimized but it will never play 720p or 1080p vids without being converted to those profiles first. was really hoping i can just drag and drop my downloaded 720p tv shows into the tab and watch it but eh well. i need to figure out how to reencode my files while keeping it as close to 720p quality as possible.
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yea the tab is unable to play videos encoded in High Profile due to hardware limitations with the Tegra chip. it only works with Baseline and Main profile. from my experience, Main gives a cleaner picture than Baseline does. if its encoded in High, the video will just stutter.
was excited to see that the new Rockplayer was Tegra optimized but it will never play 720p or 1080p vids without being converted to those profiles first. was really hoping i can just drag and drop my downloaded 720p tv shows into the tab and watch it but eh well. i need to figure out how to reencode my files while keeping it as close to 720p quality as possible.
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I must be unlucky, since 1.51 hardware mode crashes and resets my Gtablet with TnT 3.0 after playing a few seconds.
Why do you want to encode at 720p when the Gtab is not 720p? Seems overkill- if the files are for the Gtablet. I can see if just copying over to play, but if redoing for G, why not custom res to native of device?
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I must be unlucky, since 1.51 hardware mode crashes and resets my Gtablet with TnT 3.0 after playing a few seconds.
Why do you want to encode at 720p when the Gtab is not 720p? Seems overkill- if the files are for the Gtablet. I can see if just copying over to play, but if redoing for G, why not custom res to native of device?
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well not 720p but at least close to it. the reason is that it will cause blockiness otherwise, especially for the scenes that have a lot of movement. i want to keep everything the way it is but using the Main profile instead of High profile, which the original vid is encoded in. i think i've gotten it pretty close as the original file but still noticeable blockiness in high movement scenes. i'm a guy thats a stickler for quality video and audio. don't mind me lol.
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i need to figure out how to reencode my files while keeping it as close to 720p quality as possible.
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I convert my TV recordings using a free program called SUPER:
http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html#Dnload
Lots of features, including a drag and drop queue to batch convert multiple files.
It's a little confusing at first, but has a good instruction page, and tool tips.
Right mouse click brings up different menus, depending on what your click.
Double clicking a file in the queue shows information about the source file.
Check the High Quality, and Top Quality boxes, 3600 or higher bitrate.
MP4 container, MPEG-4 codec, and AAA LC audio works on Gtab.
As for screen resolution from 720p source file, there doesn't seem to be much difference above 800 wide on the Gtab, so I set scale size to 800x448 for 16:9 video that fills the screen (slight black bands top & bottom, but scaled correct).
Good compromise between file size, and quality.
If you choose the original scaling, it converts the fastest, but huge file size.
Some programs like "No Ordinary Family" have audio in channel 2, so if there is no audio, change default to channel 2 in the settings before you convert.
Hope this helps.
I might be the odd one out with this program. I have had horrible experiences with compatibility, function, and even replicating the same failures.
I have a series of files all encoded by the same person form a "podcast" type video series. Some of the files will "load" in hardware mode(i say load because often sound doesn't work) and some will not. The catch is all of them load and fail sometimes.
I noticed virtually no change in the tegra "optimization" I am really disappointed frankly. I have no reason to buy the software if it doesn't support what I need and I was really hoping this iteration would provide me with some kind of noticeable improvement. I even had to use titanium to wipe data for rockplayer for it to launch any video at all. It also force closes opening videos that used to play perfectly in the old version.
I guess multimedia and android still don't mix =/
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I having success with HP video using Mediacoder. Both hardware and software rendering are successful with deinterlacing, 6 B-frames and 1920 by 1080 resolution.. My source is AVCHD content, so I am having some interesting issues with audio though....
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I having success with HP video using Mediacoder. Both hardware and software rendering are successful with deinterlacing, 6 B-frames and 1920 by 1080 resolution.. My source is AVCHD content, so I am having some interesting issues with audio though....
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what does deinterlacing and 6 b-frames do exactly?
also can you post the rest of your settings? i've been following someone else's settings on a Droid forum and they don't work that well with the tab.
For what it's worth, VLC for Android is reportedly in the works for early 2011.
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For what it's worth, VLC for Android is reportedly in the works for early 2011.
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Great news i look foward to trying it out.
I try to play 720p video on nook and the voice and picture is out of sync
when I try to play 480p video, the voice and video is a bit out of sync too though only a bit
both video is mkv type
I guess that Nook is bad with playing MKV video files for either quality, I haven't yet try to play other format, anyway will there any differences? Will other tablets like viewsonic has this problem?
Nook is not really designed to do this but try a different format like mp4 or mpeg-4
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I try to play 720p video on nook and the voice and picture is out of sync
when I try to play 480p video, the voice and video is a bit out of sync too though only a bit
both video is mkv type
I guess that Nook is bad with playing MKV video files for either quality, I haven't yet try to play other format, anyway will there any differences? Will other tablets like viewsonic has this problem?
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I have had this problem too. If you don't want to convert your video, you might want to try QQPlayer. It can even play avi files. With AVI files, it can get a little choppy like it is skipping a frame every few frames but it doesn't stop and start and it is watchable.
If you don't mind converting videos, I have had good luck using handbrake for windows which is free and using the iPhone setting.
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I have had this problem too. If you don't want to convert your video, you might want to try QQPlayer. It can even play avi files. With AVI files, it can get a little choppy like it is skipping a frame every few frames but it doesn't stop and start and it is watchable.
If you don't mind converting videos, I have had good luck using handbrake for windows which is free and using the iPhone setting.
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hi darley, what format to convert to? iphone setting means quicktime format?
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Not sure which version pf OS you're running but, I watched lots of movies during airplane trips on the stock Nook, and a very early rooted version (1.1) with great high quality viewing. No sync issues. My movies were in MP4 format using Format Factory (free) . It takes any format converts to another and can compress, kepp same etc. When I switched to CM7 recently started getting slight out of sync issues - but barely noticeable. I'm ordering a new higher class card now which will hopefully make things better.
You have the Nook now - try Format Factory with MP4 medium quality setting, use Moboplayer (free) and play with the file size. WOrked great for me. Also, the SD card makes a HUGE difference. Try a few different ones.