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So I'm picking up a Nook tomorrow and have been doing some research on the available hacks. It seems like for me, for the time being, a rooted 1.1 is going to work best. Once honeycomb (or cm7) are stable daily drivers, I'll be switching to one of them.
Anyway, I wanted to run my upgrade plan by everyone to make sure it sounds okay. I'm not new to android hacking (have a DInc and a DX) but this will be my first nook. Here's what I'm thinking:
1) Fire up and run through OOBE - Register device with BN
2) Once the OOBE finishes, immediately turn off wireless.
3) If not already on 1.0.1, download updates and install.
4) Apply audonooter 2.12.25
6) Install ROM Manager and Clockwork Recovery
5) Apply Decad3nce's V1.1.0_r2 ROM
Does that sound right? Am I missing anything?
After everything I've read, what you got seems to be the most reliable method. Except your number order is a little out of whack. Steps 1-4 are best done following http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Rooting.
In fact, I'm going through this exact method to do a fresh install on my NC to try to eliminate quirks I have with wireless and the Gmail app on my current 1.1 install. But if this fresh install still has the quirks, I'm going back to 1.0.1 and the block patch found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922870&highlight=cwm to prevent 1.1 being pushed automatically to my NC.
Why not just get updated to 1.1.0 and use Autonooter 3.0?
thanks fug!!!
how about OC'ing. after all said and one... i was thinking of then applying dalingrin's 950 OC. safe to do when not on froyo?
jerrykur said:
Why not just get updated to 1.1.0 and use Autonooter 3.0?
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i've read there's problems running CWR when using autonooter 3. i don't mind spending a little extra time to make sure CWR works properly.
byproxy said:
thanks fug!!!
how about OC'ing. after all said and one... i was thinking of then applying dalingrin's 950 OC. safe to do when not on froyo?
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No problem!
Honestly, I think there is no reason not to just go for the 1.1 GHz OC (the kernel-1100mhz-omap3630.zip file). I was running 1.1 GHz before my fresh install (which I've already finished) and I'll soon be running at that speed again. I guess if you want to go to 950 MHz and "break in" your new NC, then by all means. But at the time before I OC'd, I felt there was enough people that were able to go to 1.1 GHz without issues. Then again, I had my NC for 2 weeks before I tried OC'ing.
Also, a few friendly tips. Open up and power up your NC in the store and make sure there aren't any issues with your unit. Also, bring a pair of headphones with you to the store. Around the time I bought mine (just after Xmas), I read posts about headphone jack issues, dead pixels and other weirdness out of the box. I don't know if those quality issues are still out there but you never know.
jerrykur said:
Why not just get updated to 1.1.0 and use Autonooter 3.0?
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byproxy is right about the feedback that Autonooter 3.0 is not compatible with CWR. There are enough posts confirming that. It's not worth the trouble. The method laid in the OP is the best way to maximize the NC, in my opinion.
I just Updated to 1.1 via B&N normal update path, used Autonooter 3.0 and then Used a CWR SD Card to flash the 1.1ghz Kernel . Easy as Pie.
I'm currently using 2 NC's. I've messed around with some of the different options out there. This week I tried hard to make Nookie Froyo 0.6.7 my preferred hack for day-to-day use but there are too many things I can't get working right. Anyway, I'm going back to the combination of Auto-Nooter 2.12.25 and Decad3nce's V1.1.0_r2 ROM for the time being.
Thanks again! Maybe I will go right to 1.1. Honestly my concern wasn't stability. It sounds like for someone who's experience and comfortable hacking an android device like this - they're pretty unbrickable.
My concern actually was the potential to fry the CPU. Has anyone run temp readings across different OC's levels to see how much hotter the CPU is getting at the higher speeds?
A crash is no problem... easy to fix. A cooked processor is $250 down the toilet!! LOL
fugitoid said:
No problem!
Honestly, I think there is no reason not to just go for the 1.1 GHz OC (the kernel-1100mhz-omap3630.zip file). I was running 1.1 GHz before my fresh install (which I've already finished) and I'll soon be running at that speed again. I guess if you want to go to 950 MHz and "break in" your new NC, then by all means. But at the time before I OC'd, I felt there was enough people that were able to go to 1.1 GHz without issues. Then again, I had my NC for 2 weeks before I tried OC'ing.
Also, a few friendly tips. Open up and power up your NC in the store and make sure there aren't any issues with your unit. Also, bring a pair of headphones with you to the store. Around the time I bought mine (just after Xmas), I read posts about headphone jack issues, dead pixels and other weirdness out of the box. I don't know if those quality issues are still out there but you never know.
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1. Buy your nook color
2. Turn it on, and register the device
3. Update to 1.1 using Sideload or wait for your device to update itself
4. Use AutoNooter 3.0 to root it
5. Enjoy yourself until CM7 comes out
therealguppy said:
I just Updated to 1.1 via B&N normal update path, used Autonooter 3.0 and then Used a CWR SD Card to flash the 1.1ghz Kernel . Easy as Pie.
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However, can you backup your NC with that bootable CWR? If you used one of the images from Monster RootPack 0.5, backup is not working yet.
Still, I rather have CWR right on the NC instead of having to keep a separate bootable CWR handy.
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However, can you backup your NC with that bootable CWR? If you used one of the images from Monster RootPack 0.5, backup is not working yet.
Still, I rather have CWR right on the NC instead of having to keep a separate bootable CWR handy.
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okay...noob question again...what is CWR and what does it do?
Omega Ra said:
okay...noob question again...what is CWR and what does it do?
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No worries.
CWR is short for ClockworkMod Recovery. It's basically a recovery platform for many, such as the NOOKcolor, but not all Android devices. A very watered down analogy is CWR is like using a Windows Repair CD (or better yet Hiren's Boot CD, if you're familiar with that) for Android devices.
A lot of the modifications (such as dalingrin's overclocking kernels) and development ROMs (such as cicada's Nookie Froyo) use CWR to make mod'ing much easier.
CWR is a must have tool for those who root and flash frequently. It will get you out of a lot of jams.
oh okay, so since I only really plan to root once and more or less leave it at that it shouldn't be that important for me then.
Omega Ra said:
oh okay, so since I only really plan to root once and more or less leave it at that it shouldn't be that important for me then.
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i'd still do it. something may get screwed up and it would be nice to have a nandroid available to restore.
I have heard there are problems with CWR and AutoNooter 3...so we'll see.
Omega Ra said:
I have heard there are problems with CWR and AutoNooter 3...so we'll see.
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Yeah its not Autonooter 3 its the 1.1 update, if you flash CWR to your device instead of using a stand alone card, you will get stuck in the CWR next time you boot and you will have to re-flash your boot partition before you can boot normally again.
You can still use the Stand alone CWR SD card to use the tool.
So, picked up the ol Nook this evening and proceeded with a very slightly modified version of my afore mentioned steps (thanks to fug for the input!). Here's what I did exactly:
1) Fired up and ran through OOBE - Registered device with BN
2) Once the OOBE finishes, immediately turned off wireless.
3) If not already on 1.0.1, download updates and install (I was already on 1.0.1 so was able to skip this step).
4) Root using audonooter 2.12.25
6) Fired up wireless again and installed ROM Manager and Clockwork Recovery via market.
5) Flashed Decad3nce's V1.1.0_r2 ROM
7) Created nandroid (CWR backup)
6) Flashed 1.1ghz OC Kernel
So far so good! Will report any problems if if/as I encounter them!!
I bought a nook color yesterday so I could get in on the rooting and roming fun as well. It came with 1.0, which I've already rooted and am now running HC from an SD card. A bit slow, so I'm planning on trying to install it internally. 2 Questions:
1. Is their any reason I should stay at 1.0? Or should I upgrade to 1.01 or 1.1? Will I be able to go back to 1.0 if I want using the 8 reboot method?
2. If I install HC to the internal memory, will I be able to restore to stock? I'm not sure I'm going to keep this device yet so I don't want to do something that will make it impossible to return to stock.
Thanks
1: No, there is no benefit to staying at 1.0.0. If you want to stick with stock eclair then upgrade to 1.1.0, the update fixed some WiFi issues. To revert back to an older "save" install clockwork mod via rom manager and make a backup. That backup can be reflashed whenever from whatever.
2:I don't know what you're confusing GB for but so far only Eclair/Froyo/HoneyComb currently run on the nook color. Yes you can revert back to any older CWM backup from any install on your eMMC. There are stock flashable images in the dev forum, so don't worry about not being able to go back to stock.
Good luck. Have fun.
woot1524 said:
1: No, there is no benefit to staying at 1.0.0. If you want to stick with stock eclair then upgrade to 1.1.0, the update fixed some WiFi issues. To revert back to an older "save" install clockwork mod via rom manager and make a backup. That backup can be reflashed whenever from whatever.
2:I don't know what you're confusing GB for but so far only Eclair/Froyo/HoneyComb currently run on the nook color. Yes you can revert back to any older CWM backup from any install on your eMMC. There are stock flashable images in the dev forum, so don't worry about not being able to go back to stock.
Good luck. Have fun.
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sorry, typo, i meant HC not GB. who can keep them straight these days? thanks for your answers. i've read reports of people having various problems with 1.1.0, it seems the consensus is 1.01 is the version to be on.
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sorry, typo, i meant HC not GB. who can keep them straight these days? thanks for your answers. i've read reports of people having various problems with 1.1.0, it seems the consensus is 1.01 is the version to be on.
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I think the problems you're talking about stem from upgrading an already rooted 1.0.0 or 1.0.1 with clockwork mod installed. If you start with a fresh(no root/CWM) 1.0.0 install then upgrade to 1.1.0 via b&n, then root it; you're in the clear.
But why bother with all of that when nookie Froyo 6.8 on eMMC is stable and performing beautifully.
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I bought a nook color yesterday so I could get in on the rooting and roming fun as well. It came with 1.0, which I've already rooted and am now running HC from an SD card. A bit slow, so I'm planning on trying to install it internally. 2 Questions:
1. Is their any reason I should stay at 1.0? Or should I upgrade to 1.01 or 1.1? Will I be able to go back to 1.0 if I want using the 8 reboot method?
2. If I install HC to the internal memory, will I be able to restore to stock? I'm not sure I'm going to keep this device yet so I don't want to do something that will make it impossible to return to stock.
Thanks
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1. none that I could ever see... must've fixed something to warrant two updates although I believe that both were mostly for WiFi but I never had problems with 1.0 or 1.01...
...now I'm just wondering where the new B&N updates are as IIRC they had TWO slated for February and it's getting to be kind of late in the month to push out two updates... might just as well do one big one now... hope that they're skipping Android 2.2 and going straight to 2.3 or 3.0...
woot1524 said:
I think the problems you're talking about stem from upgrading an already rooted 1.0.0 or 1.0.1 with clockwork mod installed. If you start with a fresh(no root/CWM) 1.0.0 install then upgrade to 1.1.0 via b&n, then root it; you're in the clear.
But why bother with all of that when nookie Froyo 6.8 on eMMC is stable and performing beautifully.
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Well the only reason I bought a Nook Color was to play with Honeycomb, dont have much interest in running Froyo, I can do that on my EVO already
One reason to stay with one of the stock ROMs is if you want to use the B&N reader and B&N kids functionality, which are not part of the froyo or HC ROMs. I personally use it a lot and hope they'll get ported over.
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One reason to stay with one of the stock ROMs is if you want to use the B&N reader and B&N kids functionality, which are not part of the froyo or HC ROMs. I personally use it a lot and hope they'll get ported over.
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Im sure thats important to many people, although I strictly bought this to play with Honeycomb. Now that I've got it running, I'm wondering what I'll actually use this device for? I can already do all this stuff on my EVO and the screen size isn't that much bigger. It sure had been fun messing with it though! Why B&N didnt enable some of this functionality out of the box I'll never understand!
Hey Guys, i am new and not very knowledgeable in the android world i tried searching but the more i search the more confused i get, i finally got my hands on a nook color (got a brand new in box nook from a place called mardens for 156$ taxes in i was stoked) and rooted it but i think i want to go further then just a root because i don't use the nook as an e reader , here are my questions:
1. I would love to install froyo on my device but i can't seem to find a step by step guide on how to do it
2. I also see that there is 2 froyo builds and was wondering which one is better.
3. Also is Froyo stable on the nook or is it really glitchy? Compared to the stock rooted nook?
4. Once you install froyo is it reversible (go back to the stock build?)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks
Gunner
Gunner86 said:
Hey Guys, i am new and not very knowledgeable in the android world i tried searching but the more i search the more confused i get, i finally got my hands on a nook color (got a brand new in box nook from a place called mardens for 156$ taxes in i was stoked) and rooted it but i think i want to go further then just a root because i don't use the nook as an e reader , here are my questions:
1. I would love to install froyo on my device but i can't seem to find a step by step guide on how to do it
2. I also see that there is 2 froyo builds and was wondering which one is better.
3. Also is Froyo stable on the nook or is it really glitchy? Compared to the stock rooted nook?
4. Once you install froyo is it reversible (go back to the stock build?)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks
Gunner
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I have not received my nook yet, but doing some prep for installing nookie froyo, it just takes a bit of time and searching to find the info you're looking for (some of it external to XDA)
1. http://forum.androidcentral.com/barnes-noble-nook-color/ check the stickies for how-tos
2. i believe there is an "official" one and a customized one that someone built from the official 0.6.8 version. I'm going to use the customized one as it comes with the oc kernel
3. From what I read, auto-nooter would be the MOST stable but Nookie Froyo is almost as stable and gives you the benefits of Froyo instead of Eclair. The other ones (HC and CM7) are coming along but aren't quite there yet.
4. Yes you can go back. With the Nook Color being able to boot from SD card, it's unlikely to ever be "stuck" on something.
Again, that's just from what i read i have no experience (yet). hope to get the nook color this week or next.
If you want to use the B&N stock apps, stay on stock eclair and just root that because you will lose all that functionality when you flash NF or CM7 or any other variations. I haven't used NF but from what I read, it's second most stable next to rooted stock eclair.
barrist said:
I have not received my nook yet, but doing some prep for installing nookie froyo, it just takes a bit of time and searching to find the info you're looking for (some of it external to XDA)
1. http://forum.androidcentral.com/barnes-noble-nook-color/ check the stickies for how-tos
2. i believe there is an "official" one and a customized one that someone built from the official 0.6.8 version. I'm going to use the customized one as it comes with the oc kernel
3. From what I read, auto-nooter would be the MOST stable but Nookie Froyo is almost as stable and gives you the benefits of Froyo instead of Eclair. The other ones (HC and CM7) are coming along but aren't quite there yet.
4. Yes you can go back. With the Nook Color being able to boot from SD card, it's unlikely to ever be "stuck" on something.
Again, that's just from what i read i have no experience (yet). hope to get the nook color this week or next.
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Thanks for the link i finally got froyo on my nook, but i can not for the life of me figure out how to get the market and the google apps on it, everytime i try to run the commands i get errors
Im pretty new to it too. got mine about a week ago. some of the stuff is pretty overwhelming at first, especially anything to do with adb. cant figure that out for the life of me.
anyways, the easiest way ive found so far is this thread
[ROM] Customized Nookie Froyo 0.6.8 Image for SDcard Updated (2/25)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324
its a custom build of froyo and already has everything needed installed. its fast, and so far, very stable. im running an 8gb class 4 sd card. it does seem to matter what you use.
here is a thread that has a small list of cards known to work and not work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=946896
pretty much everything you need is in the instructions. use any of the programs they tell you to use for things. it justs makes it easier, even if there are alternatives.
good luck. its not that bad.
I am a noob to rooting a nook color and was wondering which image would be recommended at this time? It is my wife's nook color and she is got 1.1.0 update on it and we are running windows xp on the desktop right now so any input would be greatly appreciated. Oh and she has a 32gb microsdcard in the nook that is blank.
If by image, you mean Andrioid version, I'd stick with rooted stock Eclair, if I were you. It's all well and good to expermient, but it can be rather time-consuming.
Personally, I'd say to use AutoNooter and follow the instructions on NookDevs. Make sure to use the right version (1.1.0 in your case) and good luck!
Thanks for the input
FYI, it was completely non-obvious to me until I asked here, but apparently you can root (or not root) the stock OS and alternately boot off an SD card at your whim.
Is it recommended to update to 1.1 before rooting? or It doesn't matter? Any advantages?
I am really liking the Monster Root Pack from thecubed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922870
Rooted one of the NCs I have from 1.1.0 and have found it extremely stable and all facets working beautifully! Have some minor issues with Dolphin ND but prefer Opera anyway. Burnt the image to a 2GB Class 2 mSDHC only installing the root and GApps. Installed CWM later. thecubed did some sweet work on this. Almost foolproof IMO.
Give it a whirl.
I'll tell you I read through these forums for 4 days before I finally rooted my nook. Used Auto nooter and then realized that I bought this thing for full use as an Android tab and the next day I looked into CyanogenMod 7. After 2 days of trying to do the dual boot (sd card boot), I gave up and finally just flashed CM7 to the internal
Yesterday a friend of mine brought his nook to me. Saw how much I could do that he could not, and had me root and flash CM7. It is so easy if you follow the instructions on the CM nook wiki page! Including time to format the SD card (which takes the longest) and install, it was less than a half hour before he was up and running as a full tablet. THe instructions, although they seem brief, are great there. Follow it to a key and remember to ask questions if needed.
So we just bought a nook color and she is still new to it. Obviously, she reads lots of books and I... well, want to make this into a tab and play w/ it. She might want to do web browsing and install some games/apps, but primarily will be used as an e-reader.
What rom (if any) do you suggest I flash? Or will I be better off just rooting the device and leaving it as is (w/ market)? She has no patience for developmental stuff so looking for something stable but also something I can play with
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So we just bought a nook color and she is still new to it. Obviously, she reads lots of books and I... well, want to make this into a tab and play w/ it. She might want to do web browsing and install some games/apps, but primarily will be used as an e-reader.
What rom (if any) do you suggest I flash? Or will I be better off just rooting the device and leaving it as is (w/ market)? She has no patience for developmental stuff so looking for something stable but also something I can play with
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Root the Stock and leave it. its the most stable rom.
Make your own SD card, running Nookie Froyo or CyanogenMod. When you take the card out and reboot, her machine is completely back to normal, or so I'm told. You both get to have what you want.
I can run CM from SD card w/o rooting the device!? if so... sweet, I saw sum tuts but still educating myself. Rooting and leaving stock is also a good idea, however I heard B&N is able to update your device thus losing root... Is this true?
For her, it sounds like just rooting would be the best option, since it has the market, all of the B&N features, and is stable. As mentioned above, running a ROM from the sd card is a good option for you. After rooting it, you could format the sd card used to root, and then load a ROM such as CM7, Froyo, or Honeycomb from the SD card to play with.
This way, she has her mostly stock setup, and you have your tablet setup that you can load by just popping in the sd card and rebooting. When you're done playing with it, power down, pop the sd card out, reboot, and it's back to her setup.
If you do decide to run a ROM from the sd card, make sure to get at least a class 4 (sandisk class 4 4GB works well for me). Then, if you find something that would work for both of you, you could look at flashing to internal EMMC for better speed/performance. Another option is dual-booting between ROMs, which you can find more about in the development section.
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I can run CM from SD card w/o rooting the device!? if so... sweet, I saw sum tuts but still educating myself. Rooting and leaving stock is also a good idea, however I heard B&N is able to update your device thus losing root... Is this true?
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There is a thread in the dev section on how to block the updates. Here's a link to the sd card version of CM7 you asked about. You don't have to root first, but you can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989637
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As suggested I'd root the stock software for the wife, and when you want to play choose a ROM that can run from the sdcard and you will be good to go.
Currently I run 4 different setups. Stock rooted on internal mem. Then I setup 3 different sdcards to mess around with Honeycomb, CM7, and Froyo from time to time.
C Dippa said:
There is a thread in the dev section on how to block the updates. Here's a link to the sd card version of CM7 you asked about. You don't have to root first, but you can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989637
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You do not have to root it first. All you have to do is create a live SDcard with Clockwork ROM manager put the SDCard in and boot it up holding the n and the power button in > wipe > flash CM7.
With this device reading off the SD first you do not have "antonoot" first.
I've ran CM7, Honeycomb and a few others. My personal choice is stock rooted device is perfect.
stevedawg85 said:
I can run CM from SD card w/o rooting the device!?
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I know! I couldn't believe it was that easy either. I'm going to add a notice to my signature. This kind of great capability should be right in people's faces..
Nookiefroyo runs great off an SD card for me.
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Thanks for everyone's input...
She gonna be using it 75% of the time, so I decided to root and leave it as is. Everything works good. I tried to do nookie froyo off SD card but had too much trouble w/ adb, i'll save it for another week. But for now, stock root works good. Got Zeam and Home switcher to help both of us out
I wanted to point out the only downside of rooted stock is that she cannot use in the in-store B&N features! If she plans on using that (i've heard they have not only the hour of reading free, but also sometimes offer deals and events) then you might wanna not be rooted and use the SD card. I know this is a little late to tell you as you already did it, but I thought I'd let you know anyway.
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Thanks for everyone's input...
She gonna be using it 75% of the time, so I decided to root and leave it as is. Everything works good. I tried to do nookie froyo off SD card but had too much trouble w/ adb, i'll save it for another week. But for now, stock root works good. Got Zeam and Home switcher to help both of us out
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I'll throw this in for whenever you feel like creating a bootable SD CARD to play with. I've found that higher class sd cards make a much bigger difference in how fast/well the rom operates than you might think.