[BOOTANIMATION] Stargate Android by 0m3n4 04/2011 - Android Themes

3D modelled stargate animation
Here is a couple of bootanims I made lately.
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LONG: 34megs 650 frames at 30fps - a bit of a overkill on quality.
Preview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14hRwA0v5kU
DOWNLOAD long version from Rapidshare:
https://rapidshare.com/files/458679176/bootanimation.zip
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SHORT: Under 4megs 80frames 15fps (last 30 loop) - more sensible...maybe
Preview:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2BQJ4958QM
DOWNLOAD short version from Rapidshare:
https://rapidshare.com/files/459343408/bootanimation.zip.0m3n4
Just delete the last bit after download(.0m3n4) and you are good to go.
And here is a wallpaper for your phone 980x800 (607KB)to go with it.
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
I will upload all the zip-files this week if you like?
0m3n4

Looks Nice.. Please do post it. Thanks.

Aught. This is awesome. Been a while since I've watched stargate lol.
Sent from my ThunderBolt using Tapatalk

Download link added in the first post for the short version
Long version coming later...

Added link for the LOOOONG version..
It is 34 megs so be patient.
0m3n4

Preview screens for the short animation.

I am thinking about doing a marching version with looping part on the army entering from the stargate on a formation of endless flow?!?!
1) Zoom in the planet
2) Locate stargate
3) Initialize stargate
4) Entering android world(loop)
What do you guys think?
Any suggestions?
Sent from my Stargåte Galaxy S

Maybe I will just revert to my simple 2D acrobat-project.
Make it plain and stylish.
I always wanted to make a glass android though.
Sent from my Stargåte Galaxy S

Suggestion .. Can you do one with the actual stargate ..locking in the Chevrons .. then creating the wormhole...
no Androids or anything like that ... it would look just like the tv show when they are dialing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCBs80-PjC4
This is by far the best one just wished he did a full dial sequence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zOtp7WPNyg
Here is a good example of what i am thinking of

I think it is worth a try?!
Maybe the loop in the end could be the wormhole-effect?
-"dialing"
-chevrons locking
-initialize the gate aka waterpuddle-effect
-enter wormhole
Any suggestions?
Sent from my Stargåte Galaxy S

This looks great will have to give it a try. Cant wait if you bring in the real stargate though

I been attempting to create the animation .. I got it to a point where i have the png files however the issue i run into is when i want the wormhole to loop it doesn't ..just goes to a black screen ..
I have a short version of the gate initaillizing the last chevron then kwooosh then water effect
I will upload when i get in hopefully someone can take a look and let me know where i am going wrong

Yeah okey I can have a look at your work and report back if I find an error...
Is your sequence captured from video or totally selfmade?
Sent from my Stargåte Galaxy S

Captured from video
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N351UVQO
There is the link ..
Thanks for the help

Had a quick look. I think all the parts should start with a xxx.001.
Every folder start from beginning.
Your first sequence is xxx.101... Which is allright but second was something like xxx.134...?
Maybe this loop is looking for a png called xxxx.0001? I will alter your png-files with a batch rename and see how it goes when I reach my laptop. L8er dude
Sent from my Stargåte Galaxy S

Oh you did not use any compression on the zip-file? The file must be on store/no compression mode. All thumbnails/anything extra removed. Just checking... Back soon
Sent from my Stargåte Galaxy S

no compression. I was under the impression that it did not matter what number the .png files start with so long as they are in sequence.
Look forward to hear some results

I had a similar problem where the animation turned black after the first folder run through. Did not get it to loop the rest.
I renamed the second part PNGs and voilá! it worked?!?
I did the same to your sequence
Now the pix are xxxx.01,02,03...
Download - test - report back.
https://rapidshare.com/files/2420888008/bootanimation.zip
https://rapidshare.com/files/2420888008/bootanimation.zip
0m3n4

Well did not get it to work on my Galaxy S
All your PNGs were 260x255.
So I edited the desc.txt to suit the pix. To strech it to 480x800 might be a bit too much? I put it to 260x255 and tried but no go.
So I went to Fireworks and resized pix to 480x471 (same ratio as orig.)
Created new png-files (which were even smaller in size). Edited the txt-file and everything worked just fine.
Maybe there was a problem with the png-files compression or mode.
What program did you use and with what settings?
Anyways here you are:
https://rapidshare.com/files/490220265/starhelp3.zip
http://rapidshare.com/files/490220265/starhelp3.zip
Just rename to bootanimation.zip and... well you know the rest.
Like to tell you what was the problem.. but not sure
It is a bit of try and error.
0m3n4

resized smallish for the wildfire
working with some lag
http://www.4shared.com/file/xxsd0dp0/bootanimation.html

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Problems with modifed Startup-GIF´s

Hello everybody,
this is my first post in this forum and my english is very bad, because i am an bavarian noob I take my german text to the google-translator an this is the result:
I have tried to change my startup screens what has failed miserably. I have the original files with the trail version of Ulead Gif Animator processed and pushed to the Hero. The results you can see here. I have the orig. and modifed attached files. Can anyone of you tell what went wrong?
Thx,
the bavarian opallabtb
I noticed whilst browsing the Hero file system (in root somewhere) that there are a number of config files for boot and on my Orange Hero, an Orange startup animation.
No idea how you do it (rooted & text editor maybe), but you will probably have to edit these
thank you joemax for your quick answer.
There is only one xml file in the folder /system/media. It calls boot_animation.xml
I didnt touch this file. The names of the modifed files are the same as the original ones. Is it possible that the Ulead gif animator change anything in the gif file (transparent background, etc)?
greets
Sorry, I have no idea then. My depth of knowledge at this point is very poor
Can the Hero actually play the gig animation you copied across ?
I use ASTRO to browse my Hero, it plays and views images, video and gif files. Try to see if its actually playable 1st.
Sorry but thats all I can think could be causing it.
I bet you crapped yourself when you first saw that messed up boot screen
I've had a look at the gif files you're using and they differ from the originals. The ones you made, each frame has different background properties. If you look at each frame in the original, they're all 320*480 with a background colour index of 199; they all have a black (transparent) background of 320*480.
But the modified gifs have frames which don't have the same sized and colour index backgrounds, and this is the only thing I can see that would cause the problem. When you view them in windows picture viewer, they show up fine; I think it's something to do with the transparency and the fact that the first frame IS the right size and colour but the rest are not.
In fact now that I look at your video again I'm certain this is the case. I know how to fix this, what program did you use to modify the frames?
Edit: Okay maybe I should read posts better, you used Ulead Gif Animator. If you can send me the individual images of each frame I could put this together for you in a way I'm sure will work
Hi,
thank you for your support!
Switchbitch said:
I bet you crapped yourself when you first saw that messed up boot screen
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lol, yes it was. I thought I would have an expensive paperweight
I dont know how to do this:
Switchbitch said:
If you can send me the individual images of each frame I could put this together for you in a way I'm sure will work
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Can you take the Frames/Pics or whatever you want from the "modifed.zip" package?
Thank you!

kendons bootscreen v0.1

ok, born from the verbose bootscreen idea there was the fake verbose bootscreen idea, credit goes here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4912469
this is what i came up with in a quick session, i think there is much room for improvement. if anybody likes to contribute, i would be glad for creative support
apply the zip as update.zip, make a nandroid backup before just in case. to make it easier to revert i attached a zipfile with the original files in them to revert to original, one with the sounds activated, one silent.
please tell me what you think
Hello,
do you have any screenshot of the boot or video?
Just extract the gif files and open them in IE or firefox. They'll play the anim. Very funny
thats quite funny
Lol
You are completely cool!
Thank you for this Bootscreens.
Now, Hero Booting isn't pain anymore!
glad you liked it. stay tuned for next version, already working on a progress bar... won't be out before weekend i guess.
still looking for a fingerprint scanner animation.
Nice one Thou i kinda miss my androids popping up everywhere. Would it be cool if you had a Android face popping down from the top of the screen?
OttarA said:
Nice one Thou i kinda miss my androids popping up everywhere. Would it be cool if you had a Android face popping down from the top of the screen?
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nice one, on the list!
keep it coming!
btw i am also open for tips on a good tool for animated gifs, begins to be a PITA to arrange everything by hand...
kendong2 said:
nice one, on the list!
keep it coming!
btw i am also open for tips on a good tool for animated gifs, begins to be a PITA to arrange everything by hand...
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which tool do ya use atm?
felikz said:
which tool do ya use atm?
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for now i found a way to edit the files in inkscape, one layer per frame, exporting them to .xcf keeping the layers, and then use gimp to convert to animated gif. works, but is a lot of footwork... but i guess as i am trying to make a rather "complex" (at least for a gif) animation it just is a lot of footwork...
kendong2 said:
ok, born from the verbose bootscreen idea there was the fake verbose bootscreen idea, credit goes here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4912469
this is what i came up with in a quick session, i think there is much room for improvement. if anybody likes to contribute, i would be glad for creative support
apply the zip as update.zip, make a nandroid backup before just in case. to make it easier to revert i attached a zipfile with the original files in them to revert to original, one with the sounds activated, one silent.
please tell me what you think
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Hey, I was wondering if you could help me out. I dig your boot animation, and it's inspired me to make my own (OK, I'm just stealing the old "Cylon Eye" animation from the pre-release days.) Anyway, I've got the animation zip installed and working, however it seems like the phone is ignoring the frame delay. The animation seems to be going as fast as the phone can handle. So maybe there's a setting on the animated GIF that I'm not applying. Are there any specific settings you applied to your gifs?
Here's what I've got right now:
Code:
Interlace: No
GIF Comment: No
Loop Forever: Yes
Delay between frames where unspecified: 10ms
Frame disposal where unspecified: "I don't care" (other options are Combine and Replace)
Use Delay entered for all frames: Yes
Use Disposal entered for all frames: Yes
These settings are in GIMP. If you could help me figure this out, I'd greatly appreciate it.
craig0r said:
Here's what I've got right now:
Code:
Delay between frames where unspecified: 10ms
These settings are in GIMP. If you could help me figure this out, I'd greatly appreciate it.
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set that value to a higher number, try 100ms. this specifies the general frame delay, you can set per-frame delays in the name of the frame. for example:
"Frame#1" is the layer name, make it
"Frame#1(500ms)" to make the delay half a second long.
(if that doesn't work try to google it, i am not 100% sure about the syntax)
would you mind sharing that animation you are talking about?
btw: work is still ongoing here, nuclear power now has a colored progress bar, but it is getting complicated handling 150+ layers in inkscape...
kendong2 said:
set that value to a higher number, try 100ms. this specifies the general frame delay, you can set per-frame delays in the name of the frame. for example:
"Frame#1" is the layer name, make it
"Frame#1(500ms)" to make the delay half a second long.
(if that doesn't work try to google it, i am not 100% sure about the syntax)
would you mind sharing that animation you are talking about?
btw: work is still ongoing here, nuclear power now has a colored progress bar, but it is getting complicated handling 150+ layers in inkscape...
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Yeah, I realized that my math was off with the delay, after noticing yours was 500ms. I'm going to try a couple other things to get it smoother as well. The stock boot animation has a small animated gif in the middle of the screen with a black background, so I imagine the phone can handle that easier than a full 480x320 animation, so that's my next step. I was actually just about to post my animation in a separate thread, so I'll link that post here when I've done that.
EDIT: My initial attempt is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583094
There's still work to be done, so don't judge me to hard!
thank you for the bootscreen.. finally removed that dreaded sprint bootup animation =)
motoyola said:
thank you for the bootscreen.. finally removed that dreaded sprint bootup animation =)
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well it is actually not done yet, work is still ongoing here
i don't know when i can finish this, when i had time some kernel-compiling came across my way glad you liked it though, it is a lot of work but not very difficult.
Very nice Boot SCreen. Hoping for android icons too.Thanks
Do I just have to rename it to update.zip and flash it via recovery ?
Thanks
alpha124
alpha124 said:
Do I just have to rename it to update.zip and flash it via recovery ?
Thanks
alpha124
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yes
actually you don't need to rename it with the latest recovery image.
ok thanks for the quick reply
thats weird... I just flashed my hero with your bootscreen but it doesn't show up on booting.?
alpha124

[BOOTSCREEN REQUEST] - Stargate "Puddle" Effect

What I would like to see for a bootscreen on the Hero is an animation of a Stargate locking in the seventh chevron then the splash coming out to encompass the entire screen. As it recedes back to the gate it leaves the word "ANDROID" in the event horizon overlaying the puddle effect then have four little green android characters with P-90s run through the gate before the animation ends.
Any takers on creating this? I don't know enough about creating video and effects to even get started on something like this.
Dude u read my mind...that would be awesome.. massive stargate fan here..lol
Intresting..... i will follow this thread
I'd be willing to toss out $20 (maybe more if it's a really high quality job) if there are any experienced graphics designers out there who could make this happen.
if anyone knows how to do it it is tristan202...
Does this help????
Woops,... 2 mins,... Cant use .rar,.... try again,....
OK,... here goes again.
I was previously advised (by Tristan202 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645244) that the Hero 1st plays one gif just once, then loops another... So.. Each ZIP file contains 2 gifs,... one of the "puddle" in action,... one of just the outro,...
All are 320x180 resolution,...
Latency setting on BEST was set to 50ms...
Latency setting on MED was set to 75ms...
Latency setting on LOW was set to 100ms...
Now need to find an simple method to apply them. I'll leave it to you guys to do the research for me aswel. Get cracking and let me know,....
Peace
Shizzle,..... I've just re-read the 1st post,.... And realised what I've supplied isn't quite what you wanted!!!!!
But it is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.
Its just the "puddle" taken as it is, no custom characters and stuff.
Sorry,...
Found this,... But still dont know where the hell to begin!!!!!
ddotpatel said:
Shizzle,..... I've just re-read the 1st post,.... And realised what I've supplied isn't quite what you wanted!!!!!
But it is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.
Its just the "puddle" taken as it is, no custom characters and stuff.
Sorry,...
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You are correct, it certainly does beat a poke in the eye with a sharp stick! So you found these animations or did you make them yourself? The geek in my is wondering which episode(s) they were taken from
navalynt said:
You are correct, it certainly does beat a poke in the eye with a sharp stick! So you found these animations or did you make them yourself? The geek in my is wondering which episode(s) they were taken from
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S01 Ep04 !!! Haha.
Yeah I made them, using "Video-AVI to GIF Converter". Didn't take long at all.
Unfortunately I can't open ZIP files at work, so I can't see exactly what you've posted, but if it's what I'm thinking that's still sweet.
Once I get home (and figure out how to switch out boot screens) I'll probably be using this , thanks ddot!
Ogre840 said:
Unfortunately I can't open ZIP files at work, so I can't see exactly what you've posted, but if it's what I'm thinking that's still sweet.
Once I get home (and figure out how to switch out boot screens) I'll probably be using this , thanks ddot!
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No worries,.. I'll have a look for more instructions tmorrow if i get time,...
Guys check this out,...
[KITCHEN][MARCH 25 '10] HTC Android Basic Kitchen, v0.25 - for Beginners! [PC / MAC]
I haven't given it a try myself yet though.
I had a go at this and I'll show you how far I got (see attached update.zip for flashing through recovery rom).
I'm new to making bootscreens, but I studied a few I downloaded and learned how to sign an update zip. (Can't seem to generate my own pem/pk8 key files, when trying to apply the zip signed with my key it keeps saying that the files are unsigned, but the testkey files included with the signapk zip I grabbed work fine to sign). Also I didn't use zipalign, haven't worked out how yet, or is that only done on APK files?
Anyway, I noticed when I used GIF files that use pixel cropping (leaving out unchanged pixels in subsequent frames) the image gets all distorted, like a TV broadcast signal problem. So the resulting GIF files are larger than the originals, as each frame is a full frame.
However there is still a problem with some frames in the first GIF, still some distortions, although nowhere near as bad as on my first try with cropped frames... Also I don't really like the way the 2nd GIF loops as you can clearly see when it jumps from last frame, to first frame...
phaelox said:
I had a go at this and I'll show you how far I got.....
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Wahey,... Its good to know some-one is having a play.
Unfortunately all of ...
phaelox said:
(Can't seem to generate my own pem/pk8 key files, when trying to apply the zip signed with my key it keeps saying that the files are unsigned, but the testkey files included with the signapk zip I grabbed work fine to sign). Also I didn't use zipalign, haven't worked out how yet, or is that only done on APK files?
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... doesn't mean a thing to me so I cant give any input whatsoever.
phaelox said:
However there is still a problem with some frames in the first GIF, still some distortions, although nowhere near as bad as on my first try with cropped frames... Also I don't really like the way the 2nd GIF loops as you can clearly see when it jumps from last frame, to first frame...
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I am planning on trying to teach myself and make some more tonight using Photoshop instead of the automated software I used last time,.... But what Id like to know is,... As it is,... Does it play landscape, stretched across the whole screen?.... If it does then the issue is just the resolution (as I sized it to play in in the middle of the screen in portrait mode) and in theory should be easy enough to resolve (once I know how to use Photoshop that is).... Let me know please.
Thanks.
No, it shows portrait, vertically centered (so 150px high black bars above and below the animation). You wouldn't hold your phone sideways while booting, so it seemed awkward to rotate the files 90degrees.
Basically the only problem is the "glitching" in the first GIF. I'll have another go at that one later. I think it's to do with palette compression.
Also, I used your 'BEST' zip, so I'll see about quality/size difference with the other ones.
phaelox said:
No, it shows portrait, vertically centered (so 150px high black bars above and below the animation). You wouldn't hold your phone sideways while booting, so it seemed awkward to rotate the files 90degrees.
Basically the only problem is the "glitching" in the first GIF. I'll have another go at that one later. I think it's to do with palette compression.
Also, I used your 'BEST' zip, so I'll see about quality/size difference with the other ones.
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When you say "glitching",... do you mean it doesn't play smooth yeah,... a bit jerky?
If that is what you mean then yeah, the other ones might play smoother. This might be because there are so many frames in the BEST one. The lower quality ones have less frames so can be processed faster.
Even if I just open them on my lappy in internet explorer, the best quality one doesn't play as nice as the lower one.
So the update.zip that you create,... Does that just put the files in the right place and tell the phone what files to open up when booting? Or do you have to add the black bars, tell it to play landscape or portrait, make it play only once/not loop etc,....
That's something I'd like to be able to do too.
ddotpatel said:
When you say "glitching",... do you mean it doesn't play smooth yeah,... a bit jerky?
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No, I mean it glitches like a bad tv signal. I don't really know how to describe it. You can however safely flash the update.zip I posted to see what I mean. You can always flash back a stock bootscreen (with or without sound); I've attached them to this post (grabbed these off of xda myself a while ago).
ddotpatel said:
So the update.zip that you create,... Does that just put the files in the right place and tell the phone what files to open up when booting? Or do you have to add the black bars, tell it to play landscape or portrait, make it play only once/not loop etc,....
That's something I'd like to be able to do too.
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Just unzip my zip file and peruse the files. That will tell you a great deal. You can delete the following three files, as they are created by the signing process:
META-INF\CERT.RSA
META-INF\CERT.SF
META-INF\MANIFEST.MF
This file contains the command to copy the files to the SYSTEM: volume on your device:
META-INF\com\google\android\update-script
And this file tells Android how and which files to display:
system\media\bootscreen\boot_animation.xml
There's 3 bootconfigs in that file, but the top and bottom one are commented out (could've deleted them, but oh well). So the middle bootconfig is the one to play around with. The ScreenX and ScreenY values are offsets from top left corner of screen in portrait mode. And useAudio tells android to play or not play the mp3 file (none included in my zip).
EDIT: The black "bars" are there, because as specified in the xml, it uses a GIF file that's 320x480, fully black, and the other 2 gifs are smaller, displayed on top of that black background.
If you wanted to have this animation play in landscape mode, you just need to physically rotate the GIF files 90 degrees right (or left) and resize the animation to make it fit the screen. If you make it 480px wide, then it would be 270px high, so that'd leave 320-270=50px of blackness. Vertically centering the animation would mean a ScreenX value of 25 and a ScreenY value of 0. Or leave both at zero to have the animation stay at the top of the screen in landscape mode. That way you have one black bar, at the bottom, 50px high. Make sense I hope?
One more thing: the update-script and xml file need to be saved in UNIX ASCII format. Use a text editor like UltraEdit (shareware) or Notepad++ (opensource freeware) if you're on Windows.

[Q] resizing boot animations

I've foudn a fantastic LCARS boot animation that id like to use on my Note but it is a little two small. Does anyone know how to resize it please.
I have tried to edit the desc file to 1280 x 800 and also 800 x 1280 but it wont work. It is either distorted or all I get is a black screen while the boot sound is played....im using a seperate boot ogg file.
Here is the link to the boot animation file
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701574&page=12
Thanks in advance and a large cookie to whoever does it :laugh::silly:
theres an app called Absolute System that can do it, Unfortunately it is a paid app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS5jYW52czIzMjEuYWJzb2x1dGUuc3lzdGVtIl0.
EDIT: found this, I think its what you need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1234611
thanks il give it a try.
Would i just copy the bootanimation.zip to my phone then run it through this programme?
yes, once the program has created it, move it to your phone and replace the original one with the one you made
What about ones someone else has made but just need resizing?
I should imagine it would be the same as creating your own, Just edit the resolution and let the program generate it ??
Ive never actually used the program i just remember seeing it one time, and when you asked about it i remembered
Curious did it work for you
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Curious did it work for you
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Im just about to try it buddy, just finishing off on Fleabay then its prodding tiime....Ill post back laters.
unfortunatley it wont work for me I keep getting FC's with it...so im back to the drawing board.
I have just used the other app ( boot animation creator ) and bongo worked perfectley. top advice thank you.
if the animation comes in typical zip file, you should be able to unpack it and just resize all the pics,
or am I missing something? (sorry, now unable to check the file by myself)
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
ITs ok bud i managed to sort it out
can someone resize this
I have this bootanimation but its small so i want to resize to fit the screen of my nexus 5 pls

Boot Animation for Energy Drink Lovers!

YOU MUST HAVE ROOT FOR THIS!!!!
Do not PM me about any 'no root' nonsense. I will tell you to look up what rooting is and WILL NOT answer any questions!
Although this is for MDPI devices (which hardly anybody has anymore) this boot animation will definitely be a favorite among energy drink lovers. It took almost an hour to make, but I did it and I'm proud of myself.
All it is is the Monster Energy logo cycling through the rainbow at 20 FPS, but it works. Please post your resolution on the thread if you want it to fit to your screen!
The current resolution is 320x480.
To install use jrummy's Boot Animations * Root application or similar
--OR--
you can rename it "bootanimation.zip" and use a root file browser to paste it in /data/local for 4.0 and up and /system/media for below 4.0.
**EDIT**
I don't know for sure whether or not the MonsterHighDef boot animation works as I have an MDPI device... Install at your own ******RISK******
*Edit 2*
I accidentally deleted all of the files I was working on, so new ones will be available soon (Probably on the monday following Thanksgiving). For now, I will upload what I currently have.
BluXnoWord.zip is a new theme variation from the original Monster.zip and BluXword.zip had the word "BlueX" on it which is a variation of the BlueZ default Cyanogenmod Bluetooth hostname.
PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS THREAD WITH YOUR DEVICE RESOLUTION SO I CAN MAKE ONE FOR YOUR DEVICE!!!
I'm not going to ask for thanks but it would be nice.
***SUPEREDIT***
I uploaded a .zip with all of the previews.
=+MEGAEDIT+=
If you're going to just download and not thanks me, that does not make me want to make more.
Seriously, I am going to delete this thread if people aren't going to show support.

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