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Nintendo pisses me off. Their naivety blows me away sometimes and since naivety is my biggest pet peeve, Nintendo just makes my blood boil often.
First off, they release a system that is behind the mark when it comes to graphics, yet they believe that the usual rainbow-pop BS that is Nintendo and their wonderfully novel motion controllers will make Nintendo survive forever.
I yell at the computer showing me article after article back in the day, yelling that novelty doesn't last (as long as quality). A year ago, Nintendo CEO gets bitter and yells at developers for not making all their games for Nintendo (duh, AGAIN, novelty doesn't LAST).
Now, http://news.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/nintendo-apple-is-enemy-of-the-future/8248
Nintendo thinks their biggest rival is Apple. I'm not privy to what Apple users are actually doing with their devices (although I do know that sheep tend to all do the same thing together), but apparently they play games. Nintendo reports losses this past quarter and now they respond with EVEN MORE NAIVETY.
I just want to yell at the screen again. It's not Apple that's killing your sales. It's your LACK of continuous development and innovation. You can't ride high on garbage graphics, novel controlling, and game schemes that mostly appeal to women and children, who don't spend a great amount (of money) on gaming in the first place. I laugh when I see someone actually buying DS games in the store. R4 anyone?
Nintendo just doesn't get it. They should have already been in development of a Wii HD and should really be moving on something that can compete with Natal this holiday season. Plus, where is the DS that can do more than game and chat with other DS users in the vain of teenage girls? Where is the DS that doesn't rely on homebrew apps to give it some degree of functionality? They should also get away, at least for half of the time, from that novel rainbow-poppy BS that they specialize in that makes them the poster-child for homosexual gaming...
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The sad thing is, no matter how much you hate Nintendo, they have the best-selling video games and video game franchises of all time.
"They" referring to Nintendo exclusives. This does not necessarily mean Nintendo made the games themselves.
JAguirre1231 said:
The sad thing is, no matter how much you hate Nintendo, they have the best-selling video games and video game franchises of all time.
"They" referring to Nintendo exclusives. This does not necessarily mean Nintendo made the games themselves.
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Which is why I cry when I hear about people like Lady Gaga and Amy Winehouse making any money. I HATE when S**T sells. Wii sells a ton and George W. Bush gets elected twice. LOTS of dumb people in this world (other example: iPhone)
I agree 100%. Graphics are bad and their just so dated. I think im gonna go get that Peppa Pig game.... Looks fun!
The problem with the Wii is not the graphics, but the games.
It has 3 times or more the PS2 power, and the PS2 has some of the best games ever.
I have a Wii, it was collecting dust for a year and a half until I just recently bought Monster Hunter Tri, it's an awesome game. Also, your statement on buying DS games I pretty much agree with. I have an R4, but the only games I've actually bought for the DS are Pokemon Diamond, Platinum, and Soul Silver.
rorytmeadows said:
Which is why I cry when I hear about people like Lady Gaga and Amy Winehouse making any money. I HATE when **** sells. Wii sells a ton and George W. Bush gets elected twice. LOTS of dumb people in this world (other example: iPhone)
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amy winehouse isn't that bad. the band that recorded the album isn't, at least...
and the wii has no real competitors so far (ps3 has those controlers soon, but who owns a ps3? )
but yeah I agree!!
rorytmeadows said:
Which is why I cry when I hear about people like Lady Gaga and Amy Winehouse making any money. I HATE when S**T sells. Wii sells a ton and George W. Bush gets elected twice. LOTS of dumb people in this world (other example: iPhone)
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Please, don't use foul language.
Okay, you see...there are many things about present day Nintendo that really do piss me off. Really. But, the thing is...there is nothing they can do now, or in the infinite future, that will ever change the fact that NINTENDO IS THE GREATEST VIDEO GAME COMPANY THAT HAS EVER OR WILL EVER EXIST. This is simply inarguable.
In reality, the reason why I'm so pissed off at Nintendo's BS these days is because their past was so glorious. I'm going to call 1985 to 1995 the decade of Nintendo. It peaked, an incredibly high peak, with the SNES. During the 16 bit era we had a Nintendo that not only made high-end hardware, but also successfully courted 3rd party developers to produce games for it.
Now Nintendo does neither of those things. But it still does not matter because they to this day produce the best video games on the planet. The small handful of Shigeru Miyamoto produced Mario/Zelda/Metroid games released by Nintendo easily make up for years of crappy mini-game packed cooking/dog walking simulators and rainbow colored pokemon sequels.
Now if you enjoy playing 25 new first person shooters every year on your 360/ps3 you will probably think I'm nuts. I realize I'm in the minority here. Quite frankly there are almost no games on Microsoft or Sony's consoles that interest me at all. And given that the hardware in both those machines is over 5 years old now, with absolutely no word yet of anything next-gen, I'm not too hung up on the Wii's underpowered nature.
So the way I see it, all three console manufacturers are currently riding on s**t graphics and s**t games for the most part, one or two exceptions per console per year does not change that.
And if Nintendo really is loosing money now, it's just a dent on the enormous pile of cash they have built up from selling the Wii and DS. MS and Sony have only recently started seeing profits from selling their hardware, so it is in their best interests to prolong the life of their machines for as long as possible to justify the high initial loses. This puts Nintendo in a position to release modern high-end video game hardware with almost no competition, at least for awhile. They should call the new machine the SNES 2 and it would have Super Mario World built into its BIOS. OMG who can I kill to make this happen.
Of course it won't though...not as long as there is a never ending supply of idiots who think that standing on a Nintendo branded slab of plastic will make them loose weight.
tsk tsk Nintendo, I still love you because of the games. If you are going to invest in any new hardware, make sure that it has something to do with granting Shigeru Miyamoto's immortality by hooking his brain up to a supercomputer.
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Now Nintendo does neither of those things. But it still does not matter because they to this day produce the best video games on the planet. The small handful of Shigeru Miyamoto produced Mario/Zelda/Metroid games released by Nintendo easily make up for years of crappy mini-game packed cooking/dog walking simulators and rainbow colored pokemon sequels.
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Zelda = lame
Metroid = lame
Mario and Mario Kart are the only thing going for Nintendo gamewise. I miss thousands of hours on Goldeneye and WaveRace. Party games and Smash Bros are terrible games; NO WAY will I like a game that rewards my little brother beating me at a game that he wins just by mashing the keypad. I understand the novelty of a Wii, but my brothers and I made fun of my mother for years for moving her controller 3 feet in the direction she wanted to jump on SNES and GameCube Mario games, so NO WAY will I like a system that rewards that goofy stuff.
Nintendo will always dominate the market if they never sacrifice hardware performance for novelty again. The largest sellers are 1st person shooters. If they made a system that developers wanted to utilize for FPS games, they would dominate the market beyond what novelty can do. Well, that and they don't crap out a system marketed for all of the most annoying children in the world.
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So the way I see it, all three console manufacturers are currently riding on s**t graphics and s**t games for the most part, one or two exceptions per console per year does not change that.
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What part of "no foul language" was unclear in the post immediately above yours?
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What part of "no foul language" was unclear in the post immediately above yours?
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The "no foul language" part.
I'll go with Metroid being lame. I have not really the series since Super Metroid anyway. But ZELDA NOT LAME K:ALSUDJLKAJ:SDLK
Maybe the style is a bit done to death but the recent versions of it still kick ass, especially the DS ones.
And I'm sure you agree Super Mario Galaxy (and soon 2 omg) and Super Mario New Wii (not the mediocre DS version) totally make up for Nintendo's wiimote shaking obsession. Well not totally...
With all this wrists flailing wiimote madness, it is easy to forget that Nintendo ever managed to produce something like SNES controller. In Super Mario World, if you wanted to spin jump, you just pressed the X button. But in Super Mario New Wii, you have to shake the controller like an idiot and risk smacking someone in the face and breaking your TV if you forgot to put the strap around your wrist.
I wish Nintendo would have kept it simple I really do. The only games I actually play on the Wii are the ones that still use buttons as the main controls.
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What part of "no foul language" was unclear in the post immediately above yours?
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I'm sorry I forgot I was still in grade school. This is the first time I've ever been censored here; my, and many other peoples foul language seems to have gone unnoticed before. Did I miss some kind of memo?
They got these things built into boards called filters you know, that can asterisk out naughty language before it is able to warp the delicate minds of the 13 year olds who post here.
If you're also talking about sales than I think you're wrong 'cause the DS outsold the PSP and the WII outsold the PS3 and XBOX 360.
If you think Nintendo doesn't know what they're doing then you're wrong.
But if you just don't like the games that people developed for Nintendo, then I think it's the game developers fault too.
But then again my sources are Wikipedia.
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I'm sorry I forgot I was still in grade school. This is the first time I've ever been censored here; my, and many other peoples foul language seems to have gone unnoticed before. Did I miss some kind of memo?
They got these things built into boards called filters you know, that can asterisk out naughty language before it is able to warp the delicate minds of the 13 year olds who post here.
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You mean this memo?
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
[highlight]There is no need for cursing, flaming, racism or personal attacks[/highlight]. There are a lot of different nationalities on this forum all with different cultures, this means that no matter what you're like, you'll have to adjust to people that are most definitely not like you. For this reason we'd like to ask you to refrain from discussions about religion or politics, we do not wish to limit your right to free speech, but we have noticed these topics tend to get heated and might be best discussed in a different environment. It will gain you a lot of respect if you help to keep the peace. It's disrespectful and therefore not permitted to create Alias Member names in an attempt to deceive others.
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We don't get everyone, but we do act on the people that we do see.
nintendo's only good games at this point are ones made by nintendo themselves. Theyve been ignoring that fact because of how well financially the Wii has been doing, but first party games alone can never support a console without any quality third party titles to back them up. Nintendo's in for a wake up call real soon.
I'm sorry I forgot I was still in grade school. This is the first time I've ever been censored here; my, and many other peoples foul language seems to
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You mean this memo?
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
There is no need for cursing, flaming, racism or personal attacks. There are a lot of different
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We don't get everyone, but we do act on the people that we do see.
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Yes, but IN REGARDS TO being "polite and respectful to your fellow xda-dev user". Forgive me if I don't read into that sentance a sweeping ban against all "bad words" however benign.
If XDA really wants to enforce such childish rules, state it clearly and unequivocally. "There is no need" is hardly a definative statement for banning something so common especially when you proceede to list cursing and racism in the same breath.
And besides, if you insist on being forum Nazi's the least you could do is enable automatic profanity filtering. Either that or just edit my post without leaving the added indignant reply.
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Yes, but IN REGARDS TO being "polite and respectful to your fellow xda-dev user". Forgive me if I don't read into that sentance a sweeping ban against all "bad words" however benign.
If XDA really wants to enforce such childish rules, state it clearly and unequivocally. "There is no need" is hardly a definative statement for banning something so common especially when you proceede to list cursing and racism in the same breath.
And besides, if you insist on being forum Nazi's the least you could do is enable automatic profanity filtering. Either that or just edit my post without leaving the added indignant reply.
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Wow this was a good read until you just threw up on here. The one thing that got me to actually have to reply:
"added indignant reply."
Really? You can't see how you're the one actually being a jerk to begin with all because you did exactly what he just told the other guy not to? That's just a slap in the face, and that's 10 times worse that cursing in the first place, on the disrespect subject. God don't flame me, just think about it. Refusing to admit a wrong doesn't show education.
Anyways! On topic!
Well, sadly, whoever said Wii sold more than PS3 and Xbox 360 is correct. You have to stop and think, though. Wii really is for all ages. I enjoy it now and again, and I'm 19. It's for family fun, not competition or winning.
Also, it's very popular for the younger generation. My 8 year old nieces cannot even play a Xbox 360, yet they CAN play a Wii. Now, I go into my room and shoot people all night on a 360, but go in the living room to play Wii with them and my sister who's 28.
And, that's what it boils down too. Wii sells more because it adheres to almost every age group/gender except for teenage males - middle aged males. Those age/gender groups may play it, but will never own one for personal use unless you're a young father or something along those lines. Older people don't want to shoot people - most older people can't even use a 360 controller to shoot someone if they wanted to. They also mostly disapprove of it. They also disapprove of shooting games for their children. (I know, you think violent video games and kids is such bs, but talk to some old schools it really is a legitimate argument.) Thats for another subject, though. There are VERY little family orientated games for the 360 or PS3.
Pretty much same with DS. I play it often with my fiancée. I've actually considered buying two of them just so I can play with her. Would I ever play it without her? No. MAYBE Super Mario (my nieces got me hooked on it helping them beat levels and what not) but never another game.
Just my 2 cents. Honestly, I think Nintendo is a on a good/strong track. They're the only real major gaming company that tries hard to apply to all generations. Well, they try much harder than any other.
Probably missed some things, got a little confusing going back and trying to reorder it to make it flow.
r3s-rt said:
Wow this was a good read until you just threw up on here. The one thing that got me to actually have to reply:
"added indignant reply."
Really? You can't see how you're the one actually being a jerk to begin with all because you did exactly what he just told the other guy not to? That's just a slap in the face, and that's 10 times worse that cursing in the first place, on the disrespect subject. God don't flame me, just think about it. Refusing to admit a wrong doesn't show education.
Anyways! On topic!
Well, sadly, whoever said Wii sold more than PS3 and Xbox 360 is correct. You have to stop and think, though. Wii really is for all ages. I enjoy it now and again, and I'm 19. It's for family fun, not competition or winning.
Also, it's very popular for the younger generation. My 8 year old nieces cannot even play a Xbox 360, yet they CAN play a Wii. Now, I go into my room and shoot people all night on a 360, but go in the living room to play Wii with them and my sister who's 28.
And, that's what it boils down too. Wii sells more because it adheres to almost every age group/gender except for teenage males - middle aged males. Those age/gender groups may play it, but will never own one for personal use unless you're a young father or something along those lines. Older people don't want to shoot people - most older people can't even use a 360 controller to shoot someone if they wanted to. They also mostly disapprove of it. They also disapprove of shooting games for their children. (I know, you think violent video games and kids is such bs, but talk to some old schools it really is a legitimate argument.) Thats for another subject, though. There are VERY little family orientated games for the 360 or PS3.
Pretty much same with DS. I play it often with my fiancée. I've actually considered buying two of them just so I can play with her. Would I ever play it without her? No. MAYBE Super Mario (my nieces got me hooked on it helping them beat levels and what not) but never another game.
Just my 2 cents. Honestly, I think Nintendo is a on a good/strong track. They're the only real major gaming company that tries hard to apply to all generations. Well, they try much harder than any other.
Probably missed some things, got a little confusing going back and trying to reorder it to make it flow.
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Yes, we are aware that the Wii is marketed for all ages. But that is not where the money is. Everyone knows that the money market is not only people 18-34, but especially males 18-34. I'm a little sick of Nintendo whining every time they report low earnings or don't have developers jump into making hot third-party titles for the Wii. They don't get that because their system isn't marketed for the money making demographic. I think only in Japan are the age demos are off from the rest of the world. There are plenty of 30-year-old Japanese that seems to be into that pop-rainbow BS that Nintendo craps out constantly. That's fine, but that's not the rest of the world.
I couldn't possibly care less about these sort of games. This puts me in, I'd venture, less than 3% of the young male population of this country who can buy an Xbox or whatnot in the first place.
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More like inciting a flame war. ^_^ j/k
I've never liked racing, shooting, or sports games, which I've found doesn't sit well with most men my age (22). Just wondering what fellow techies think.
Usually I get a "wow, I can't believe another human being has different tastes than me" response. I don't think I've ran into a "Wow you're so gay" response but it's only a matter of time. =/
ninestraycats said:
More like inciting a flame war. ^_^ j/k
I've never liked racing, shooting, or sports games, which I've found doesn't sit well with most men my age (22). Just wondering what fellow techies think.
Usually I get a "wow, I can't believe another human being has different tastes than me" response. I don't think I've ran into a "Wow you're so gay" response but it's only a matter of time. =/
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Yep same. I'm different to everyone in my school. Everyones got iphoned, I got a Desire, now everyones jealous haha.. anyways, I like racing and shooting games. Just the real ones. CoD and GT not things like killzone or WoW. Though I don't play often, every 2–3 weeks maybe, I do enjoy some adrenalin pumping through my veins when I due just begore the end of the mussion. It makes me more determined to finish correctly the next time etc..
Everyones always asking me when I'm online next to play a bit of CoD or whatever and I just don't understand how you can become addicted to something that doesn't actually exist. Well it does but not really, you know what I mean : )
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LOL been a gamer for too long. But I have never told anyone that they were "gay" because they didn't like to game.
But.. usually they were women.
well im different to everyone in my school.
most of the lads in my year like football and cod.
"medal of honor- is ****"
"driving games - ****"
"every other game apart from cod and fifa- is ****"
i have been called gay because i have long hair and i like rock music and drum and bass (and others).
i think the reason they call you gay is because they don't like people that are different and like other things.
about 1 year ago everyones phones where sony ericssons (crap ones)
and samsung tocco lites (horrible)
but 1 lad had a t-mobile g1.
i had my 7 year old htc himalaya brick (excellent phone)
now quite a few have htc's desires, hero, legend. (and obviously don't know about xda (what a pitty))
people seem to follow other people and call you weird because you are not following.
sorry if i drifted off topic.
i like driving games, fps (half-life excellent!!)
im a gran turismo guy i love that game, i also enjoy a nice helping of cod now and then too, i cant stand football soccer or basketball games though
COD - meh
FIFA - meh
GT5 - drool
Well, an explanation is warranted for the above...
I never really got the hang of FPS games in multiplayer, mostly because I used to pwn at CounterStrike and Half-Life, but a hiatus during my formative days (read, TEENAGE) lost my edge in FPS games. Mostly I will check out the single player experience, and if it gains enough traction amongst my friends, I'll get the original copy. Mostly, for group enjoyment purposes, we game L4D if we wanna play FPS. I'm just waiting for Crysis 2 (as an excuse to upgrade my Gfx card more than anything else )
FIFA... well... is a game for douchetards who imagine that they have the skills needed to take Leo Messi/CR to whatever glories that in real life they couldn't achieve (both for the gamers and the players). Simply said, it gives little to none benefits, and merely act as an escapement and commercial device. For the more serious guys, we play futsal, which is like football played in a netball field. Pacing is fun, especially since players with less stamina can join in and height doesn't bring that much of a benefit (read, GIRLS CAN PLAY TOO). And for the brainiacs, we play Football Manager 2011.
GT5 is going to be something of a old history for me. It's more of a nostalgia device than something of real enjoyment. Back in the days, me and my brother played GT1, GT2, GT3, and probably GT4. To my brother, who is an engineer by now, it is the most accurate depiction of a car on the race-track. I'll skip the nostalgia bit... Anyway, since neither of us own a PS3, and neither of us plans to own a PS3, this game will forever reside in the droolworthy section of our hindbrains, possibly forever.
The problem with me is I'm probably in the less than 0.05% zone. I'm a self-professed geek that likes to party and do sports. I could, enjoyably, spend the afternoon tinkering with my PC/phone or just dump everything to hang out with friends, chilling out and maybe finding the answers to life (we checked, its not 42).
So gaming is cool and all that, but it's not the be all and end all for me
Gotta say... I love GT5 lol. I think I like it more than GT3 or 4 because I'm actually trying now lol. I used to have a Game Shark, Code Breaker, and Action Replay to cheat my way to having (basically) infinite cash, the AI guys wouldn't move, and every car would have like 16x acceleration lol. It made it fun cause I could get what I wanted when I wanted, but ruined the sense of accomplishment needed to make it feel way better. I actually HAVE to try and succeed in this now, which is awesome imo.
Call of Duty is cool, but I'm not into it as much anymore as I am with GT5 now.
FIFA is a game I'll never play. I don't do sports, nor like them; especially soccer.
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To my brother, who is an engineer by now, it is the most accurate depiction of a car on the race-track.
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That is VERY cool and I didn't know that. Sucker as I am for new experiences, it makes me want to play it again with this knowledge.
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Pacing is fun, especially since players with less stamina can join in and height doesn't bring that much of a benefit (read, GIRLS CAN PLAY TOO).
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Haha, I hope I'm reading your implications right: b/c size isn't an issue, women can play the sport side-by-side with men. The other implication would be a little... off-putting. >.<
flyboyovyick said:
well im different to everyone in my school.
i have been called gay because i have long hair and i like rock music and drum and bass (and others).
i think the reason they call you gay is because they don't like people that are different and like other things.
i like driving games, fps (half-life excellent!!)
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Sorry I paraphrased your Quote
1) Nothing wrong with Long Hair and playing Bass. I did both for a long time - but now the hair fell out and I play a little guitar (i.e. it stares at me taunting me on the wall collecting dust due to RL stealing all my time)
2) Your unique... just like everybody else
3) Half Life is probably the BEST GAME EVER. And I'm a sucker for driving games. I haven't purchased GT yet as I know my wife would kill me while I was going around the track at 4am.
YOU DON'T LIKE THOSE GAMES!!! wow!!, i didn't know another human being could have such different taste to me.
But seriously 'normal' at my school is f'd up compared to everybody elses, screamo metalheads and emos rule the street and jocks are considered to be on the same level as the scum you find in public toilets... its a weird place.
Im lucky anyway because im a self admitted nerd at school but for some strange reason nobody believes me? (WTF's with that!?!) Which is especially strange considering people are paying me to set up snow leopard hackintosh on their pc's.
My favorite shooter is Gears o' War 2 (can't really call it fps), but, uh, what do you guys think of bioshock? I personally don't like it, much to the disdain of all my friends who are obsessed with it.
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But seriously 'normal' at my school is f'd up compared to everybody elses, screamo metalheads and emos rule the street and jocks are considered to be on the same level as the scum you find in public toilets... its a weird place.
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Wow, that is strange. At my school there was no "jock" contingency either, but why would there necessarily have to be, stereotypes are stereotypes.
What IS indeed common to probably every school ever are cliques. I'm guessing it's the 'us vs. them' mentality that's so crucial to so many living things.
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FIFA?
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Soccer is the worst game (notice I didn't call it a sport) in the history of mankind.
Its very annoying everywhere I turn I hear ipod or iphone as if that is the only mp3 player or cell phone in existance. I turn the tv on to watch news then I hear the pope got a ipod, a next time I heard president obama have a ipod, next time I heard doctors are using ipod for something (cant remember what), next time I heard apple white iphone is delayed and many customers are waiting for it(its just a color), a next time I heard apple app store have a grill thermometer app.
These are some of things that I heard on the news and it makes me wonder if the station is getting paid everytime they mention a apple product. Yesterday im watching the news and a tech commentator came on and was talking about verizon iphone. He said the verizon version internet is a little slower than at&t but atleast you will be able to make calls with verizon version. If apple version was so bad with voice call how come it was so hush hush. My friend iphone always drop calls and he always have excuse like he was on a bridge, he just pass a over pass, he just pass a dead spot but he would not say its the phone. I asked my friend to send me a picture to my cell that he took out with his iphone, he said he would have to wait until he reach home to do it from his mac book because the iphone couldnt send pic. This was couple years ago when the iphone first came out. This is what you call a loyal fanboy.
Apple is doing a very good job with advertisement. People around me never heard of a N1 but then again i didnt buy it because it was the in-thing. Im not afraid to tell a apple fanboy my left soft key on my N1 can be unresponsive and its very annoying. 3 times for the 10 months I own my N1, when I try to take a pic the phone would completely die. I was thinking the flash was consuming too much battery or maybe its my cheap ebay spare battery. It didnt happen that often for me to try to narrow it down.
did I mention im not a fan for any thing apple. awwwww i feel better.
Yah I'm not crazy about the fan boys either. They think there phone is the like the best phone in the world.
I used to be a fanboy and i still have a lot of respect for the iPhone if it wasnt for them google probably wouldnt be making the phones we have now. our operating system might not exist and we wouldnt have this awesome forum to bash steve jobs. but you have to admit its a pretty impressive device a lot smoother and refined than most of the android phones out there. its biggest limitation is that is has a big ugly apple on it. Mac is obsurd with their locking everything up. if they would just open up then maybe theyd be worth half what the android os is
I don't "hate" apple for capitalizing on a fragmented (heh) mobile market. They see consumer electronics as a sector with untapped potential and made an ecosystem off of it. If you think about it, every manufacturer would sell their soul for the success that Apple has been having. Further more, you should appreciate for what Apple is doing, otherwise most of these manufacturers would still be lagging 10yrs behind in development.
While i do agree that all mp3 players are being grouped up as "ipod" and all phones as "iphones" etc, that's more of a fault with the dumb general public for creating the generalization than Apple's own-doing.
People think that we have capable phones thanks to Apple,but that isnt true,
the IPhone has just a new capacitive multitouch screen.
There were nice smartphones before like Palm Treo,and others.
I had a used Nokia 9210i communicator,way older than the Iphone,
it seems to be the first phone sporting installable programs.
For Android we dont have to thank Apple that they put a crippled OSX on their
phones but we have to thank the Linux devs that their OS is free and has a lot of software available.Hacker had patches for a lot of PDAs running this OS for years.
Now we have WP7 that tells us to throw all previous phones into trash,because
it doesnt run our software without a lot of source changes and runs only on overpriced high-end hardware.
This is a real convo I had yesterday ... I explained after wards (Randomly calling him Jim )
Me *Get's out phone and goes on Angry Birds*
Jim "Hey, that's not an iPhone how did you get that!?"
Me "I downloaded it"
Jim "But i though only iPhones could get apps"
Me *facepalm*
It's not the iphone I hate, it's the goddamn fan club I have a problem with.
Its a great piece of hardware. The OS is so simple a child can use it. Much like the mental capacity of its fanbois.
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This is a real convo I had yesterday ... I explained after wards (Randomly calling him Jim )
Me *Get's out phone and goes on Angry Birds*
Jim "Hey, that's not an iPhone how did you get that!?"
Me "I downloaded it"
Jim "But i though only iPhones could get apps"
Me *facepalm*
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hahahahahahaha what a dumbass. sorry if i'm insulting your friend, but that's just stupid.
Yup apple is sh*t
I plugged the ipod speakers in my Sony Walkman hit the bass button and the sound was like the speakers are farting!
Stopped the bass feature and the sound was still like sh*t.
I plugged my speakers in an ipod and the sound wasn't that good, IDK why they say that the ipod has a clear voice when it sounds like crappy FM radio.
I had a white 3gs and I loved it. But it got damaged at&t screwed me over and apple said oh well. I played with my friends n1 and had to have android in the end I went with the evo only because sprint cut me a better deal than T-Mobile. I went to buy the G2 and it would have cost almost $1000 just for the phone and new 2 yr.
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btw, KarlosTheJackal pposted something funny in this thread:
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My favoute "custy" ever came in & we had this convo (to explain the grading system i work at a second hand store, we grade everything A,B or C based on there condition):
Custy: "You have them new iPhones in stock"
Me: "Yes, we have both the 16GB & 32GB in stock both in 'A' Grade condition"
Custy: "Does that come with that talking cat thingy?"
Me: "Pardon?"
Custy: "Don't play stupid, you know that program/app thingy that the cat talks to you"
Me: "Do you mean 'Talking Tom Cat'?"
Custy: "Thats the one, does it come with it?"
Me: "Its not pre-installed, its a free app you download of apples market place"
Custy: "How much for the app thingy?"
Me: "Ive just said its free"
Custy: "I won't take one of them iPhones unless it has that on it"
Me: "I can put it on there if you like"
Custy: "Yes"
To sum it up, she paid £550 for a 32GB iPhone4 for one free app that she could have gotten on an iPod Touch.
That was the day I lost hope for humanity...
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Thank you!! Well said
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Really? I see more people with Androids/Blackberrys.
Why I like Apple:
1)They do nice designs for their products.
2)Operating system is better for viruses not because there are none, but if they do get in they do less damage than they would on Windows.
3) They have better games for iTouch/iPhone than for Android, I want some more gameloft games, and "lite" games.
Why I don't like Apple:
1) Over priced
2) Lack of customization, and I'm having a harder time jail breaking the free iTouch I received.
3) Lack of game support for their computers
4)Fanboys really ruin the community for Apple because if you mention one con about Apple they eat you like a starving man and a cheesecake.
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This is a real convo I had yesterday ... I explained after wards (Randomly calling him Jim )
Me *Get's out phone and goes on Angry Birds*
Jim "Hey, that's not an iPhone how did you get that!?"
Me "I downloaded it"
Jim "But i though only iPhones could get apps"
Me *facepalm*
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Same here!! Angry birds and its not an iPhail/iPhuck?
Why is XDA-Developers the anti-Apple site? I just don't get all the Apple hate around this place. They are what they are. I use some Apple products. I'm typing this on a MacBook Pro right now that I *need* for my business because I rely on software that ONLY runs on OS X. I also have a couple of Android phones and a BlackBerry... and while there are things about the iPhone that draw me in, how closed it is puts me off. But it's also a selling point, as it's what allows Apple to create the experience they do.
We have a free market, and we should be GLAD for Apple. And Android. And Windows Phone 7. And even Symbian. The free market is what causes ALL platforms to progress and develop at the rate they do in order to keep up with each other.
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Why I don't like Apple:
1) Over priced
2) Lack of customization, and I'm having a harder time jail breaking the free iTouch I received.
3) Lack of game support for their computers
4)Fanboys really ruin the community for Apple because if you mention one con about Apple they eat you like a starving man and a cheesecake.
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1. I hear this argument, and I don't see the truth in it at all. iPhone is priced competitively with high-end Android phones in the same class.
2. This is VERY true, unfortunately.
3. Um, seriously? No. I'd argue consoles are better for games anyways, but Macs run games pretty well. Granted, there aren't a lot of games for Mac OS X but that isn't Apple's fault. And you can run any OS you feel like on your Mac, so dual-boot with Windows if you need Windows games. Unfortunately, I can't run Mac OS X on any generic hardware I want without some hacking, and I rely on programs that are ONLY available for OS X. That seems more a reason to be anti-Apple than the other way around
4. Isn't the whole point of this thread (and it seems much of this site) the ANTI-Apple fanboys? The idiotic fanboys are everywhere (though Verizon seems to have the most - and I must say the Verizon iPhone scares me. Combine Apple's fanboys with Verizon's fanboys and you have the potential for a nuclear explosion of fanboyism in the coming months). Ignore them, they don't change the real merits of a product.
It's marketing. Apple and developers create the product, and then people market them. Apple does not create markets, but they sure as hell know how to expand it. There was a small tablet market before the Ipad, but when the Ipad came and hit, the tablet market blew up. Same thing with smart phones. Smart phones wouldn't have grown and expanded to the general public if apple didn't put out the Iphone.
Also, haven't had an issue jailbreaking. If you have an Iphone before 4.2, jailbreakme.com. If you have newer, redsn0w supports windows and mac. As for games, it's up to the developers, not the OS. Steam and valve have support for OS X, ID games do seeing that they're opengl games, and there are cider wrappers for a lot of games out there.
I wish apple would develop a computer that uses desktop parts and not mobile or workstation parts, since that drives cost up some. But for that, I have osx86. Until Apple makes a machine with complete desktop parts, well osx86 for me.
Just wanting to put a few things in here.
While reading through this thread, it seemed like all i was reading was a large group of teenage douche bags all getting together and talking about something they don't like.
Don't get me wrong, I love android but it doesn't have to be this "I hate apple, I love android" thing, they BOTH have their strengths and weaknesses.
Both OSs have been hacked because there are things people don't like about both, not just Apple. I mean, we are on a forum that is dedicated to IMPROVING the Android OS, obviously because it isn't what we would like it to be and we can make it better.
The iPhone is an amazing phone; if you have a good signal on ATT (which I have always had, never had that whole dropped calls thing over and over like people state they have) then most people don't have complaints becUse it just works. The OS is intuitive, very clean, and very easy to navigate.
When people ask me which to get, I always ask them right away, "are you going to be customizing the phone? How adept are you with computers?" if they aren't, I direct theto iOS because it is better as a STOCK OS.
If we couldn't hack and change android like we can, it might be a little better, but ONLY if you were very into the customization; for the average consumer, IOS is better. That's why it sells.
i*hone is a way over priced over hyped device imo
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It's marketing. Apple and developers create the product, and then people market them. Apple does not create markets, but they sure as hell know how to expand it. There was a small tablet market before the Ipad, but when the Ipad came and hit, the tablet market blew up. Same thing with smart phones. Smart phones wouldn't have grown and expanded to the general public if apple didn't put out the Iphone.
Also, haven't had an issue jailbreaking. If you have an Iphone before 4.2, jailbreakme.com. If you have newer, redsn0w supports windows and mac. As for games, it's up to the developers, not the OS. Steam and valve have support for OS X, ID games do seeing that they're opengl games, and there are cider wrappers for a lot of games out there.
I wish apple would develop a computer that uses desktop parts and not mobile or workstation parts, since that drives cost up some. But for that, I have osx86. Until Apple makes a machine with complete desktop parts, well osx86 for me.
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thats why i just build my own pc's
So do you guys cheat sometimes in games like MW3? Or in an MMORPG? In a game like MW3 you can use an wallhack or if you wanna be the ultimate killing machine you can use an aimbot to.
The wallhack just tells you the position off your enemy by putting squares around, so that makes a good cheat without being detected.
While an aimbot results in many kills and angry player who say they had sex with your mother even though they not know her, or they say you are gay, either way cheating can be fun.
With games like World of Warcraft you could cheat by using an bot, I tried it in Silkroad online, I bring my character to the grinding area and put the bot on and watch an video, well that was fun because I can do something else in the mean time.
One most servers on TeknoMW3 you will get banned, but I managed to play for about one month on a Dutch server without getting banned until today, I made my nickname the same as the admin from that server so people though the admin was cheating.
You could call cheating childish, but I don't think it is, I think many people cheat especially on TeknoMW3, of course I wouldn't cheat on official servers, because there are so many servers on Teknogods, if I get banned I just play on another server.
GTA is the only game that I use cheats. I think it's a waste when you cheat on games like Skyrim and first person shooter games. I think there are other people that use cheats just for the sake of knowing the story of the game.
What is wrong with you people? Where is your integrity? Lol.
You cannot have one without the other sadly.
No. cheating gets you what you want if you really want it.
The day i played DOTA and someone came wasted all his spells me and then magically re-fresh ed his spels without orb. that was the day i declared war on all cheaters.
My everyone else cheated..
And look where i am.
lvl 1 with a stick of prodding, depressed as hell.. my life sux.. and the criminals who shot me "literally" are having beer.
Somewhere something has to give.
Cheating only leads to more cheating.
A game is one thing human life is another.
In a perfect world we'd have servers for real players and servers for cheaters, and people would stick to the correct ones. The only problem I have with cheaters is they spoil a game for people that want to play it properly. I think people who are into cheating to "win" over real players probably got slapped a few times in the school yard and didn't know how to deal with it.
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In a perfect world we'd have servers for real players and servers for cheaters, and people would stick to the correct ones. The only problem I have with cheaters is they spoil a game for people that want to play it properly. I think people who are into cheating to "win" over real players probably got slapped a few times in the school yard and didn't know how to deal with it.
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Or in case with a game as World of Warcraft they have a life and you don't so you keep playing like 18 hours a day and don't go to school / work, but the cheater he put his bot on and goes to work and when he returns how he lvled and got some gold.
The bot in Silkroad Online I really liked, because I just wanted play the game without needing to sit the whole day behind this game.
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The bot in Silkroad Online I really liked, because I just wanted play the game without needing to sit the whole day behind this game.
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There you go... another example.
If you support it, you can't hate it.
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Or in case with a game as World of Warcraft they have a life and you don't so you keep playing like 18 hours a day and don't go to school / work, but the cheater he put his bot on and goes to work and when he returns how he lvled and got some gold.
The bot in Silkroad Online I really liked, because I just wanted play the game without needing to sit the whole day behind this game.
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I don't play games like that, but I don't think it's right to say someone has no life and judge them just on the game they play.
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I dont cheat in online games, I dont see the fun in it. I dont play online to prove something to myself...
now GTA style Give Me A Tank cheats in singleplayer... I will use those now and then...
I do, Skyrim, I made sure I was the most powerful mage ever. Even with pokemon, I made sure I had mewtwo to destory everything. It's not because I wanted to cheat, but I HATE losing.
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I do, Skyrim, I made sure I was the most powerful mage ever. Even with pokemon, I made sure I had mewtwo to destory everything. It's not because I wanted to cheat, but I HATE losing.
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what kind of cheat did you do on skyrim?
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I must admit that I actually cheated once playing Fallout. I used the code thing to get unlimited ammo. But I was just playing by myself.
Lol I use cheats but only in GTA. Gotta have that buzzard and apc, you know?
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probably in my entire gaming career for First Person Shooter Online, i never use cheat once.
THe only cheat i use is up up down down left right left right b a
how will i pass if i dont cheat?
I only cheat on gta games also, just to cause some mayhem whem im bored
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I used to run with quite a cheating crew in the Modern Warfare games for fun, and a bit in Halo 3.
You'd hate me.
We used to derank people in public games, hilarity ensued.
Ah, those JTAG days.
On my second go around on ME3 i cheated somewhat.... I edited my War Asset to around 10,000 like that i didn't have to do every single little thing to increase readiness rating etc.
Cheated on Assassin Creed only for the money.... Technically i cheat after I've finished a game genuinely or i got pissed off way too much
Ok so Christmas is sneaking up on me and I'm thinking of getting my son (almost 3) one of these cheap android tabs. I was thinking of the innotab or leap pad but for its price i feel an android tab would do so much more and would be something he wouldn't grow out of in 6 months time.
So does any one on here know any good child mode apps i could use if i get him one? I wouldn't want him destroying the tab by changing all the settings and buying apps and sending emails to people etc.
I'd like an app that would boot into kids mode upon start up and that would be easy for him to access basic things like games and camera and coloring apps etc etc..and ideally a function where i could monitor his usage and see his progress in games and drawing...
Please help
Ps: for the people that think I'm mad, i am. Don't judge me for giving him a tab. I won't get an expensive one and even if i did, it's my money so no criticism please!
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You can't just use any one of the several "kiddy" launchers already in the market?
It took me 3 seconds to find this one with many more available.
Must resist urge to criticize!!.....
Can't help it!! Guy, he is barely three!!! Get him tonka truck or legos!! If he is anything like my three year old, he will have more fun with the box it came with then the tablet.
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Must resist urge to criticize!!.....
Can't help it!! Guy, he is barely three!!! Get him tonka truck or legos!! If he is anything like my three year old, he will have more fun with the box it came with then the tablet.
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+1 Why can't people let kids grow up at a normal speed, rather than trying to magically make them become a geek by the time they're 5? Kids spend far too long staring at television as they grow up, give him something that will get his imagination working and get him outside in fresh air.
Yeah ive seen one i like the look of called kytephone. I found that one here on xda.
I was mainly after opinions on what people use for their child. And what they liked about it.
And although he's only 3 he's very clever like his daddy lol and it will hopefully stop him using my note.
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Edit: this thread isn't going as i hoped. I will not stick him in front of the tv all day nor will he have access to this tab 24/7.
We do play outside, we do have fun that don't involve technology so what's the harm in him earning an hour or two tab time?
I'm after advice not criticism so can we get back on topic or shall i close the thread?
Thanks
You should probably get him something like this.
Additional link here.
Cheap and has toddlers in mind with it's design.
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+1 Why can't people let kids grow up at a normal speed, rather than trying to magically make them become a geek by the time they're 5? Kids spend far too long staring at television as they grow up, give him something that will get his imagination working and get him outside in fresh air.
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^^^This big time^^^
Children need to play outside and socialize. Its only going to do them good in the long run.
There is a kid's Nabi Android Tablet in the Bestbuy Flyer in the Black Fiday Thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1979120 Link in Post #7
Hey, he is 3? When's he going to play with a tablet? Shouldn't he be in school?
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Yeah ive seen one i like the look of called kytephone. I found that one here on xda.
I was mainly after opinions on what people use for their child. And what they liked about it.
And although he's only 3 he's very clever like his daddy lol and it will hopefully stop him using my note.
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Edit: this thread isn't going as i hoped. I will not stick him in front of the tv all day nor will he have access to this tab 24/7.
We do play outside, we do have fun that don't involve technology so what's the harm in him earning an hour or two tab time?
I'm after advice not criticism so can we get back on topic or shall i close the thread?
Thanks
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i think its cool man my child is 2 1/2 and he takes his evo in the car to play games and watch his youtube vids he downloads. my child is very active plays outside all the time rides his four wheeler and many other things. kids are ppl and they like electronics as well. i wish when i was a kid i would have had things like this. i think it makes kids smarter, my friends cant blve he can play xbox and work a phone. do what you do man and dont worry about what other ppl think, however i think its awesome
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I agree with the earlier thread.....
I just bought all 4 of my kids the nabi2. It is sporting tegra3 processor etc..... very rugged. $199. I even play games on it. Extremely easy to root. My oldest is 14. He even likes it. Mainly because he doesn't have to worry about breaking it.
It has nabi mode. In it you control content etc.... and "mommy mode" is just your basic ICS.
Check it out.
Thanks for the replies guys!
As for the haters, yes he will be in nursery, yes he will play out side, i don't lock him in his room and feed him through a hatch!
He's 3, he's clever and if he behaves he earns a reward which will be playing on the tab. It's my money, my child, my house and my rules.
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And with that, this thread comes to a close.