Rally against locked bootloader - Motorola Droid and Milestone General

Ok, this is just a idea, we have tried braking the bootloader, we have tried sending motorola a partition with more thatn 4000 names and yet they still do nothing, so how about a nice troll on there facebook page? if we where to get 100+ people posting daily on their wall and commenting on all their posts something along the lines of 'Y U NO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER?!' then maybe they will be forced to listening to the people that buy there phones and want to be able to use them!
http://www.facebook.com/motorola
If you are with me then start today! (if not prehaps you have a idea?)

+1 DONE
Let's hope motorola will respond.

I'm in. Let the spamming begin.
Edit: Haha, I got a warning saying that I can't comment public posts anymore.

Keep it up guys, the more people we can get doing this every day the better! I shall thank every person that takes there time to go on the page and leave how they feel about the locked bootloader
Together our voice will be heard!!

Hi guys, if you havnt already 'like' this page on facebook
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Motorola-unlock-my-bootloader/196652687045161

I'm in, friends.... enough is enough...

I'm in too... Waiting for my message on their wall to be deleted ^^

Keep it up guys it would seem all my posts havnt been deleted so just stick to one or two a day on all there posts and the wall and it should stay

Personally, I think we should all post that the bootloader has finally been unlocked, and threaten to release the crack to all their phones unless they officially release one. Just an idea, cause as I see it, they don't give a s*** about it anymore.

zacthespack said:
Ok, this is just a idea, we have tried braking the bootloader, we have tried sending motorola a partition with more thatn 4000 names and yet they still do nothing, so how about a nice troll on there facebook page? if we where to get 100+ people posting daily on their wall and commenting on all their posts something along the lines of 'Y U NO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER?!' then maybe they will be forced to listening to the people that buy there phones and want to be able to use them!
http://www.facebook.com/motorola
If you are with me then start today! (if not prehaps you have a idea?)
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anyway it can help

Hey guys I've made a topic in discussion tab on motorola europe's profile-unlock milestone bootloader-now.
Please post there.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App

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Respect this

If you in.ex brick your device, I undestand that you wanna fix it as fast as possible, and that you in panic post 100's of threads asking same question:
"I did this or that, blahblah, and my phone is dead/bricked/stuck in bootloader and so on,please help me im desperate...."
Not only do many post many threads in diffrent sections, they send several pm, and make contact on msn and mail.
DO NOT BEHAVE LIKE THAT, its damn annoying. I hate beeing contacted this way. I GET THE FRICKEN MESSAGE, and if I dont answer within a day or two then im not gonna answer. Its that easy.
So, please dont pm, msn, email or w/e to me if you have issues with bricking, flashing, soft reset, hard reset, where to find a fix to all the worlds problems and why you cant get it up......
I know I might sound like I need to calm down. But actually I am not "pissed off" I just dont have the time to help all with these issues, and when I say that word "all" I mean all, YOU included.
Im not answering anymore posts, pm, msn or email on theese issues, so dontwast your time.
thx
cheers
(please note that this was about those who contacts me in all these ways and then some, within few hours)
ps. When I say no, its NO. (you know who you are)
People should learn to use the search function a lot
Regards,
Carty..
This is funny, but then again it's not. This thread is definitely collecting views indeed. So Itje, your thoughts are indeed "felt" and "respected", by me and many others here. But those few anxious ones, I'm unsure as to why they post the same question(s) in different threads and forums. Laziness I suppose. I once was a junior noob, now I'm a senior noob helping others (as best as I can).
PS. Itje, you are a celebrity here, and those that constantly ask you for advice and complain, they are the paparazzi chasing you around. I'll be a bodyguard if you like, lol. I work in the justice system (in the states) so I know what it's like to have many people coming up to you asking for hookups, advice, and complain, and you are just trying to do what you enjoy with what you know. It's a headache and a half for sure.
Much Respect ..
lol, Im sure I can manage without a bodyguard.
I can speak for myself mostly, but a bit support from time to time is greatly appreciated not fake support, dont agree with me without agreeing with what I say
And yeah, search both using google and searchtab in xda forums are not frecuently used by newcommers, and maybe not seniors either, but what do I know?
No, but what Itje said is true. It does get annoying to be read messages or posts that deal with topics about their phones being bricked. Yes they're panicked, and yes they want to resolve the problem as soon as possible, but that's why we usualy posts warnings about flashing stuff to their phones. Realisticly, if you don't have the patience to do a search and look for answers, then you probabaly won't have the patience to follow the proper steps to flash a device, and that will result in a brick.
robosiris said:
This is funny, but then again it's not. This thread is definitely collecting views indeed. So Itje, your thoughts are indeed "felt" and "respected", by me and many others here. But those few anxious ones, I'm unsure as to why they post the same question(s) in different threads and forums. Laziness I suppose. I once was a junior noob, now I'm a senior noob helping others (as best as I can).
PS. Itje, you are a celebrity here, and those that constantly ask you for advice and complain, they are the paparazzi chasing you around. I'll be a bodyguard if you like, lol. I work in the justice system (in the states) so I know what it's like to have many people coming up to you asking for hookups, advice, and complain, and you are just trying to do what you enjoy with what you know. It's a headache and a half for sure.
Much Respect ..
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I am a Wizard owner. My sister has a Wing behaving badly. I came here to search a fix for her and stumbled upon your thread. PROPS TO YOU!!! I know the Wizard section is constantly mucked up with multiple threads, please help me....blah blah blah. I have taken to answering those threads with my new mantra:
DO NOT ATTEMPT ANYTHING ON YOUR DEVICE WITHOUT FIRST READING EVERY WIKI AND STICKY IN THIS SECTION (at least 3 times each!)...USE THE SEARCH BUTTON, READ PEOPLE'S SIGGY'S AS LINKS ARE OFTEN POSTED THERE TO HELP. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CUSTOMIZE AND/OR FIX YOUR DEVICE WITHOUT FIRST UNDERSTANDING YOUR DEVICE.
I am sure this often comes off as rude, but I feel your "pain" and found that sometimes a panicking noob needs this tough love, and will calm down, breathe, and discover the solution is right in front of them.
Again props to you for speaking your mind about this. And yes, this needs to be respected.
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I am a Wizard owner. My sister has a Wing behaving badly. I came here to search a fix for her and stumbled upon your thread. PROPS TO YOU!!! I know the Wizard section is constantly mucked up with multiple threads, please help me....blah blah blah. I have taken to answering those threads with my new mantra:
DO NOT ATTEMPT ANYTHING ON YOUR DEVICE WITHOUT FIRST READING EVERY WIKI AND STICKY IN THIS SECTION (at least 3 times each!)...USE THE SEARCH BUTTON, READ PEOPLE'S SIGGY'S AS LINKS ARE OFTEN POSTED THERE TO HELP. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CUSTOMIZE AND/OR FIX YOUR DEVICE WITHOUT FIRST UNDERSTANDING YOUR DEVICE.
I am sure this often comes off as rude, but I feel your "pain" and found that sometimes a panicking noob needs this tough love, and will calm down, breathe, and discover the solution is right in front of them.
Again props to you for speaking your mind about this. And yes, this needs to be respected.
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thx mate, for the support.
and thx to others who has expressed support on this issue, both in pm and in posts.
ps
its not that ppl cant contact me and ask for help or w/e, im just not answering what i call incomplete descriptions of w/e, or provide "walk throughs" on rom building, flashing and what not
have a nice day/night/evening/morning...depending on your timezone
cheers
Yeah its pretty bad that people are just diving in without taking the time to understand what they are actually doing when they change the os on their phones. Ive bricked mine at least twice today, but I know how to fix it. Its really simple to fix half the problems that we have when we screw with our gear.
If it doesnt boot, or boot right. Hard reset.
That doesnt fix it. Boot loader. Set back to factory.
This stuff is really simple. Building Roms. Different story.
I think the mods should include a "search first" rule. If anyone posts something thats been discussed they should get a warning, and if it happens again, ban them. I've seen this on tons of forums that have this same problem and it works out quit well .
Have we all had an "oh ****" moment when we realized we were doing it wrong, or incompletely?
Yes.
But if you READ READ READ you won't brick your device. There's always a risk, there's always the possibility, but I can't remember the last time I actually bricked ANY device! I'm not a huge fan of the current flashing method for these custom Wing ROMs - largely because the official RUU flasher is just... more reliable. But regardless, I've STILL not bricked my phone, because I FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS.
I think that people get so excited and think it's EASY and ANYONE can do it. And they kill their systems. It's a similar situation with people who MOD their PS2 or Wii or DS or PSP, they routinely muck it up because they can't be arsed to go read the stickies and do some research before jumping in.
Keep up the good work, itje!
Gurm said:
Have we all had an "oh ****" moment when we realized we were doing it wrong, or incompletely?
Yes.
But if you READ READ READ you won't brick your device. There's always a risk, there's always the possibility, but I can't remember the last time I actually bricked ANY device! I'm not a huge fan of the current flashing method for these custom Wing ROMs - largely because the official RUU flasher is just... more reliable. But regardless, I've STILL not bricked my phone, because I FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS.
I think that people get so excited and think it's EASY and ANYONE can do it. And they kill their systems. It's a similar situation with people who MOD their PS2 or Wii or DS or PSP, they routinely muck it up because they can't be arsed to go read the stickies and do some research before jumping in.
Keep up the good work, itje!
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Well said.
READ READ READ...and when your eyes burn and you see in triple...READ the one in the middle!!!
Modding your phone is much like sex. At first you are excited to get down and dirty so you dive right in and it often is disappointing (because you didn't know what you were doing-damn virgins), but as you do it more, you get better at it, and eventually you have moments when you go "damn I'm good"!!
The first time you mod your phone, you are excited and really likely to muck it up. But as you get to know your device, and experiment, you have those moments when you finish cooking a rom or something, and go..."damn I rock". But until you get to know the how's and why's, you will often be met with disappointments.
akashastrega said:
Well said.
READ READ READ...and when your eyes burn and you see in triple...READ the one in the middle!!!
Modding your phone is much like sex. At first you are excited to get down and dirty so you dive right in and it often is disappointing (because you didn't know what you were doing-damn virgins), but as you do it more, you get better at it, and eventually you have moments when you go "damn I'm good"!!
The first time you mod your phone, you are excited and really likely to muck it up. But as you get to know your device, and experiment, you have those moments when you finish cooking a rom or something, and go..."damn I rock". But until you get to know the how's and why's, you will often be met with disappointments.
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Speak for yourself...I think most can say the first time might be the best ever...a feeling that can't be replicated!
rquinn19 said:
Speak for yourself...I think most can say the first time might be the best ever...a feeling that can't be replicated!
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lmao
"Hey itje can you help me unbrick my wing.....Please oh come on man hey help me" lmao jk man I just wanted to say that I agrea with all of you guys and the whole "read and study before you do anything" Movement....lol I don't even got my wing yet but I have been surely studying so when It finally get's here, Hopefully tommorow anyways thanks all you guys for all the info and work you put into helping us all

doom for Tilt

Ok i have been serching through these forums for weeks now so please dont bash me if there is a thread about this because i havent found any answer i am looking for in the many threads about this! My question is i want doom on my tilt i know how to get it and how to install problem is it wont run it, i read that my phone has to be unlocked before it will work, if that is the case is it a CID unlock or sim unlock i need to do? and if it is CID can i just flash hard-spl to my device to unlock it because i do not want to change roms only unlock it to play games, and if i use hard spl will i be forced to reboot my old rom or can i use it just to only unlock my phone. thanks for any information
WARNING: YOU'RE GETTING BASHED
You didn't search, and I can prove it.
Site search using Google. Search term "Kaiser Doom". It is the very first result. You probably would have been better admitting you didn't search at all than to lie about it.
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WARNING: YOU'RE GETTING BASHED
You didn't search, and I can prove it.
Site search using Google. Search term "Kaiser Doom". It is the very first result. You probably would have been better admitting you didn't search at all than to lie about it.[/Q
First off i have spent several hours and many days searching and did you read what was given on your search or just find some stuff on it and called it good, if you have read my thread then you will see that everywhere i look it doesnt explain what i am wanting to know, just jumping around different things,
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rolltyde said:
Ok i have been serching through these forums for weeks now so please dont bash me if there is a thread about this because i havent found any answer i am looking for in the many threads about this! My question is i want doom on my tilt i know how to get it and how to install problem is it wont run it, i read that my phone has to be unlocked before it will work, if that is the case is it a CID unlock or sim unlock i need to do? and if it is CID can i just flash hard-spl to my device to unlock it because i do not want to change roms only unlock it to play games, and if i use hard spl will i be forced to reboot my old rom or can i use it just to only unlock my phone. thanks for any information
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ummm, Ill tell you exactly what you want to know, but you need to post 5 url's for search engines.
KD8DNS said:
ummm, Ill tell you exactly what you want to know, but you need to post 5 url's for search engines.
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www.dogpile.com, www.google.com, www.yahoo.com, www.lycos.com, always tha www.msn.com
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ummm, Ill tell you exactly what you want to know, but you need to post 5 url's for search engines.
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Nice.
Oh and BTW, I did see your video driver. It's off playing Doom on 32X.
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www.dogpile.com, www.google.com, www.yahoo.com, www.lycos.com, always tha www.msn.com
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good that was step 1, now what you need to do is USE one of those url's to search for "doom for kaiser". and next time you post a redundant thread you can reference back to this redundant thread and use the search url's that you provided.
KD8DNS said:
good that was step 1, now what you need to do is USE one of those url's to search for "doom for kaiser". and next time you post a redundant thread you can reference back to this redundant thread and use the search url's that you provided.
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that was the stupidest thing i have ever heard!!!!! you are obviously not listening trying to make your friends on here laugh. why dont you type that in and read hours of useless information for days see how aggrivated you get. my question is not redundant mine has not been asked on here or anywhere else that i have spent days looking for and i can post pages of url's with nothing close to what i am asking. It must just be such a simple answer for you that you want to make it hard on someone who isnt a phone god!!!!! i thought this is what these forums are for? the time it just took you to type that idiotic reply you could have helped someone but chose to be immature so dont bother, someone more kind has already helped thanks
rolltyde said:
that was the stupidest thing i have ever heard!!!!! you are obviously not listening trying to make your friends on here laugh. why dont you type that in and read hours of useless information for days see how aggrivated you get. my question is not redundant mine has not been asked on here or anywhere else that i have spent days looking for and i can post pages of url's with nothing close to what i am asking. It must just be such a simple answer for you that you want to make it hard on someone who isnt a phone god!!!!! i thought this is what these forums are for? the time it just took you to type that idiotic reply you could have helped someone but chose to be immature so dont bother, someone more kind has already helped thanks
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reading your thread is like walking into a brick wall with a hard on!!!
omfg, i cant believe it LOOK what i found
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...=doom&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
KD8DNS said:
omfg, i cant believe it LOOK what i found
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...=doom&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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Nice.....not realy did you happen to even look at any of that.....??? all that talks about is the same REDUNDANT stuff i keep finding still not answering my non redundant question. my question is not how and where to get it all i want to know is do i need to unlock my CID to get this to work and nothing in all of that tells anything close to that, check them out for yourself instead of posting a link with pages that just say doom for kaiser without seeing if my question is in any of them, if your gonna post post something helpfull on my subject
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Nice.....not realy did you happen to even look at any of that.....??? all that talks about is the same REDUNDANT stuff i keep finding still not answering my non redundant question. my question is not how and where to get it all i want to know is do i need to unlock my CID to get this to work and nothing in all of that tells anything close to that, check them out for yourself instead of posting a link with pages that just say doom for kaiser without seeing if my question is in any of them, if your gonna post post something helpfull on my subject
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why in hell would you need to unlock your phone to put a game on it, we are not using a iphone.
p.s. your in no position to be talking about redundancy.
KD8DNS said:
why in hell would you need to unlock your phone to put a game on it, we are not using a iphone.
p.s. your in no position to be talking about redundancy.
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wow finally an answer, that wasnt so bad !!! and i dont know why, thats why i was asking, because your precious research that i supposedly didnt do told me that. so now you see why i am confused there are thousands of things to look up on the subject and all saying different things, confusing to someone who is not a computer wiz to find proper info.
P.S. if anyone is confused on this subject i wont hate on you for asking just message me to avoid the bashing from unwilling people that just want to make you look stupid
rolltyde said:
wow finally an answer, that wasnt so bad !!! and i dont know why, thats why i was asking, because your precious research that i supposedly didnt do told me that. so now you see why i am confused there are thousands of things to look up on the subject and all saying different things, confusing to someone who is not a computer wiz to find proper info.
P.S. if anyone is confused on this subject i wont hate on you for asking just message me to avoid the bashing from unwilling people that just want to make you look stupid
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Jesus. You are an arrogant one aren't you. I would think that if it didn't say you needed to do something extreme, like unlock, that you wouldn't. But I guess I think like that.
ALSO, if you wanted to know for sure. Respond in the Doom On Kaiser thread.
Get off your high horse and contribute to the community. That's why were are here. We are a development community, not a Tech Support Community. WE help out each other. I can't make ROMs. But I test them out and help other people that have questions. I also provide Mirrors. I'm not here to hold your hand. But if you are trying and stuck, then I will help.
You stated, "why dont[sic] you type that in and read hours of useless information for days see how aggrivated[sic] you get." That's the problem, most of us senior members, have read useless stuff because people refuse to search.
Your attitude when people tried to help you was appalling. Understand our side. We see the same thread a dozen times a day. We search and find the answer. Gets a little frustrating. But to be attacked for GIVING Answers, That is completely rude. In fact. IF you DO stick around. I will not help you unless you apologize to the people who tried to point you in the right direction. But I have a feeling you got want you wanted an won't be returning to our community. I for one will not be shedding a tear in your honor.
Please do not disturb the members of these forums with questions that can be answered by reading the wiki or stickies. Thread is closed. If you're wondering why, please read the forum rules, found in the sticky link in my sig.

Problem with Data Connection and Itjes Touch IT ROM

First of all it is a great ROM, i just love it!! So Thanks Itje.
My Carrier is o2 Germany and i encounter some problems with my data connection. IM+ keeps losing the connection, resulting in switching between on- and offline every 20 seconds. This is not only very disturbing while chatting, but after 20 times or so, my ICQ Account gets blocked for one hour for security reasons.
Same goes for Opera Mobile, when i google Something i get Connection Problems, after hitting refreh for 3 or 4 times, Pages load just fine.
I found out that other people have the same problem, especially people on T-Mobile and i searched for a possible solution, because it was mentioned that [email protected] posted a work-around but all i could find was a Proxy Setting for T-Mobile NL posted by him, so what i would like to ask is if anybody found a solution to fix this problem, because apart from the otherwise excellent ROM this really "grinds my gears" ;P
And please, if anyone is offended by this post or thinks i did not search enough, just use the "Back" Button in your Browser and i apologize for wasting 10 seconds of your day =)
I Just thought if this problem got solved already and many other users suffer the same conditions, a solution should be more accessable and not be hidden somewhere in 2500 Posts.
Thanks Guys and good night
keep posts in their relevant threads..
I agree! Even when I try to download e-mail and retrieve headers it keeps saying it loses the connection. I have to try a few times and "hope" it doesn't drop the connection. Same with Windows Live Messenger.
I REALLY like itje's ROM's but I think he does some radio/registry tweaking for radio connectivity, and somewhere down the road a tweak broke something
A real shame I have full signal 3G/HSPA or full signal EDGE and it keeps dropping the connection every half a minute or so...
Samson711 said:
First of all it is a great ROM, i just love it!! So Thanks Itje.
My Carrier is o2 Germany and i encounter some problems with my data connection. IM+ keeps losing the connection, resulting in switching between on- and offline every 20 seconds. This is not only very disturbing while chatting, but after 20 times or so, my ICQ Account gets blocked for one hour for security reasons.
Same goes for Opera Mobile, when i google Something i get Connection Problems, after hitting refreh for 3 or 4 times, Pages load just fine.
I found out that other people have the same problem, especially people on T-Mobile and i searched for a possible solution, because it was mentioned that [email protected] posted a work-around but all i could find was a Proxy Setting for T-Mobile NL posted by him, so what i would like to ask is if anybody found a solution to fix this problem, because apart from the otherwise excellent ROM this really "grinds my gears" ;P
And please, if anyone is offended by this post or thinks i did not search enough, just use the "Back" Button in your Browser and i apologize for wasting 10 seconds of your day =)
I Just thought if this problem got solved already and many other users suffer the same conditions, a solution should be more accessable and not be hidden somewhere in 2500 Posts.
Thanks Guys and good night
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well the old fashion way is the only way anyone's gonna tell you to do.
that or you get luky someone has the solution to the problem your facing and decide to post link or fix for ya.
like someone else said before, if you can read enough to flash a rom, then you can read enough to find a solution.
if every person had a problem and don't search (like your doing now) this forum would continue to clog.
you are causing the same bull sh*t cycle that you hate, by starting a thread KNOWING FULL WELL someone has a solution/problem for this rom.
you clog the forum by the same question someone else has probably ask as you have stated yourself.
above all YOU STARTED A STUPID THREAD ASKING THIS QUESTION THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE ASK IN THE RELEVANT THREAD AS FARDS WAS POINTING OUT.
you say a solution shouldn't be hidden? who in the hell is gonna organize every single problem bit by bit? that would cause a more clogged forum.
yes i agree the search engine is not perfect, it shows post of every single word you type in it. but that is the best it's gonna be for a search engine. the only thing better than that is searching your self.
i write down my own search engine. i start reading from begining of thread, take notes of the post# that has either problem or solution, page to know where i'v read up to, reading every single new post for a fix or solution. i keep reading until i'v got to the most current post, by then just sit and relax for what happens next.
everyone wants to find the answer fast but there is no quick way to it. if there was, the staff would have already done it BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH STUPID SH*T EITHER. why would they want to spend their free time dealing with answer issues when they've spent plenty of time on the rom itself?!!?!?! if you really love this rom that was GIVEN TO YOU, put in the extra time to just read and figure out the easy part. make time to do something you claim you love.
im sory but you had this coming to ya, im mad at the thread, even more so what you said in your thread.
DUDE MAN I CAN SH*T ON THIS THREAD ALL DAY BECAUSE THIS THREAD BECAME WORTHLESS WHEN IT WAS STARTED.
Okay, i know i had it coming but i never forced anyone to read the thread nor to post in it. If you get that mad with such threads just don't post, that also makes threads longer. And with not hidden in any threads i do not mean that nobody should search, no, by no means i do mean that. I just thought maybe it could become a sticky post or be written into the wiki. Believe me i searched but after reading 2 hours of posts that didn't help i just thought someone who knew the answer would be nice enough to post the link again.
But obviously i do not have to apologize to waste any of your time, because you seem to have the time to flame around a little bit and tell me things which i said you need not tell me and just leave this thread.
It's just funny how when a question gets asked several times 100 people do have the time to write thousands of lines just to flame at the people instead of using just 10 seconds to leave the thread (which would result in less posts for the search engine) or posting a solution (which would result in thread being closed). I am a guy who always uses the Search engine first and i definately don't give up after 5 minutes of search, but some problems are harder to find via the search than are others, that's the problem. And if i get the feeling that my solution is not to be found, what would you do? Just leave it at that, or post in a board that brilliantly helps everyone who needs help. Okay i can see that i should have posted in the right thread, not start a new one, but the outcome would have been exactly the same.
Now i know that some threads really are useless, but believe me, some people just are unfriendly and rather spend an eternity writing stupid comments than posting a solution, even if they already did so 2 or 3 times=) I helped on problems that were discussed several times myself and i even wrote personal messages with the solution instead of filling up the board. Personally, when i think a thread makes me mad, i leave it and i do not spend any more time of my life on reading/posting in this thread.
It was just a try, sorry. I did not mean to offend anyone and i'll just leave it at that and use the search engine again. But opposite to some other users, i WOULD post the link ANYTIME someone asks for it.
Thread can be closed/deleted, whatever.
I have the same issue and would like it resolved, if you find the answer please let me know
I have been searching the itje thread for around 1 hour and have yet to find an answer...
himuraken said:
well the old fashion way is the only way anyone's gonna tell you to do.
that or you get luky someone has the solution to the problem your facing and decide to post link or fix for ya.
like someone else said before, if you can read enough to flash a rom, then you can read enough to find a solution.
if every person had a problem and don't search (like your doing now) this forum would continue to clog.
you are causing the same bull sh*t cycle that you hate, by starting a thread KNOWING FULL WELL someone has a solution/problem for this rom.
you clog the forum by the same question someone else has probably ask as you have stated yourself.
above all YOU STARTED A STUPID THREAD ASKING THIS QUESTION THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE ASK IN THE RELEVANT THREAD AS FARDS WAS POINTING OUT.
you say a solution shouldn't be hidden? who in the hell is gonna organize every single problem bit by bit? that would cause a more clogged forum.
yes i agree the search engine is not perfect, it shows post of every single word you type in it. but that is the best it's gonna be for a search engine. the only thing better than that is searching your self.
i write down my own search engine. i start reading from begining of thread, take notes of the post# that has either problem or solution, page to know where i'v read up to, reading every single new post for a fix or solution. i keep reading until i'v got to the most current post, by then just sit and relax for what happens next.
everyone wants to find the answer fast but there is no quick way to it. if there was, the staff would have already done it BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH STUPID SH*T EITHER. why would they want to spend their free time dealing with answer issues when they've spent plenty of time on the rom itself?!!?!?! if you really love this rom that was GIVEN TO YOU, put in the extra time to just read and figure out the easy part. make time to do something you claim you love.
im sory but you had this coming to ya, im mad at the thread, even more so what you said in your thread.
DUDE MAN I CAN SH*T ON THIS THREAD ALL DAY BECAUSE THIS THREAD BECAME WORTHLESS WHEN IT WAS STARTED.
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people like you annoy me mate! if ya did not like what the guy posted then don't flame the man's thread. keep your opinions to yourself. people on here are too quick to have a go at people for posting their feelings as wen posted in thread ya get the same old jibe! the guy did the decent thing and posted out of thread so if anyone could help him then post. he didnt need your 2 pence especially when the rom he had issues wid had no personal bearing on you! Fards who is involved wid the touch-it scene kindly asked him to post in thread! what right have you got? f**king unbelievable some of you fools on here! kiss A** and brown nosers! leave the man's thread alone as he did not need you to advise him of your flipping useless opinions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Okay, i know i had it coming but i never forced anyone to read the thread nor to post in it. If you get that mad with such threads just don't post, that also makes threads longer. And with not hidden in any threads i do not mean that nobody should search, no, by no means i do mean that. I just thought maybe it could become a sticky post or be written into the wiki. Believe me i searched but after reading 2 hours of posts that didn't help i just thought someone who knew the answer would be nice enough to post the link again.
But obviously i do not have to apologize to waste any of your time, because you seem to have the time to flame around a little bit and tell me things which i said you need not tell me and just leave this thread.
It's just funny how when a question gets asked several times 100 people do have the time to write thousands of lines just to flame at the people instead of using just 10 seconds to leave the thread (which would result in less posts for the search engine) or posting a solution (which would result in thread being closed). I am a guy who always uses the Search engine first and i definately don't give up after 5 minutes of search, but some problems are harder to find via the search than are others, that's the problem. And if i get the feeling that my solution is not to be found, what would you do? Just leave it at that, or post in a board that brilliantly helps everyone who needs help. Okay i can see that i should have posted in the right thread, not start a new one, but the outcome would have been exactly the same.
Now i know that some threads really are useless, but believe me, some people just are unfriendly and rather spend an eternity writing stupid comments than posting a solution, even if they already did so 2 or 3 times=) I helped on problems that were discussed several times myself and i even wrote personal messages with the solution instead of filling up the board. Personally, when i think a thread makes me mad, i leave it and i do not spend any more time of my life on reading/posting in this thread.
It was just a try, sorry. I did not mean to offend anyone and i'll just leave it at that and use the search engine again. But opposite to some other users, i WOULD post the link ANYTIME someone asks for it.
Thread can be closed/deleted, whatever.
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what you apologising for? have you been told off by the moderators? NO! ya can post whatever you like if ya feel like it. you have no reason to apologize at all! you haven't broken any rules nor offended anyone! in most threads wen people encounter problems they seem to post the same issue over and over again and fixes may have already been posted earlier! that seems to annoy people as some others tend not to search prior to posting. sometimes i can see how peops feel as these threads are quite long especially on anything itje releases. dont know whether you searched or not but in future maybe you should ok!
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people like you annoy me mate! if ya did not like what the guy posted then don't flame the man's thread. keep your opinions to yourself. people on here are too quick to have a go at people for posting their feelings as wen posted in thread ya get the same old jibe! the guy did the decent thing and posted out of thread so if anyone could help him then post. he didnt need your 2 pence especially when the rom he had issues wid had no personal bearing on you! Fards who is involved wid the touch-it scene kindly asked him to post in thread! what right have you got? f**king unbelievable some of you fools on here! kiss A** and brown nosers! leave the man's thread alone as he did not need you to advise him of your flipping useless opinions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i agree that what i post is annoying, same as post like his are too for starting this thread. you say what right i have to flame at him? i can ask you the same thing, what rite do you have for addressing my issue i don't have at you? that's rite Fards is on the touch it team, so he does have the authority to say something. does that mean only the team of the rom is allow to post only? NOOOOO all and anyone can, if it's either helping, complaining, or flaming that's why its a forum. im no brown noser i just pointed to fards post because that's what i would have said as many would too. all he said was go to that relevant thread, logically wouldn't you say the same DAM thing?!!!? dude your just as much of a mindless f*ck here as i am for not minding your own business lol. you didn't post anything fix or links, neither did i. you flame at me for flaming at him, and non of it is our dam business to begin with. you agree that he shouldn't have started a thread and should have search, guess what soo did i. soo shingers roll up your blunt and flame on that, chill the F*ck out son. you ain't no better than me by what you posted here. atleast i gave him my layout plan how i read the forums and take notes. maybe that can encourage him to start his own search plan. wtf help did you do? nothing!!! let's keep going on and on to see who wins this battle of words and continue to clog up this forum... loser
btw im patiently waiting for yall's 6.5+Rhodium rom. i like how the topaz+6.5 came out, pretty stable.
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First of all it is a great ROM, i just love it!! So Thanks Itje.
My Carrier is o2 Germany and i encounter some problems with my data connection. IM+ keeps losing the connection, resulting in switching between on- and offline every 20 seconds. This is not only very disturbing while chatting, but after 20 times or so, my ICQ Account gets blocked for one hour for security reasons.
Same goes for Opera Mobile, when i google Something i get Connection Problems, after hitting refreh for 3 or 4 times, Pages load just fine.
I found out that other people have the same problem, especially people on T-Mobile and i searched for a possible solution, because it was mentioned that [email protected] posted a work-around but all i could find was a Proxy Setting for T-Mobile NL posted by him, so what i would like to ask is if anybody found a solution to fix this problem, because apart from the otherwise excellent ROM this really "grinds my gears" ;P
And please, if anyone is offended by this post or thinks i did not search enough, just use the "Back" Button in your Browser and i apologize for wasting 10 seconds of your day =)
I Just thought if this problem got solved already and many other users suffer the same conditions, a solution should be more accessable and not be hidden somewhere in 2500 Posts.
Thanks Guys and good night
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I agree! Even when I try to download e-mail and retrieve headers it keeps saying it loses the connection. I have to try a few times and "hope" it doesn't drop the connection. Same with Windows Live Messenger.
I REALLY like itje's ROM's but I think he does some radio/registry tweaking for radio connectivity, and somewhere down the road a tweak broke something
A real shame I have full signal 3G/HSPA or full signal EDGE and it keeps dropping the connection every half a minute or so...
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im dealing with this problem all the time on any custom rom. the only solution for me is to use the stock rom, i have tried every other way/solution, none of them work for me.
I also have the same problem.
I use IRC a lot on my X1, and with Itje's ROMs, pocketIRC disconnects itself in 30 seconds or so.
I have read through the Touch-It9 thread and also used the search function without coming up with any answers.
I would be grateful if someone could simply post a link to the relevant fix.
I'm currently using smarberg's TouchX V7, no such problems with this ROM.
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i agree that what i post is annoying, same as post like his are too for starting this thread. you say what right i have to flame at him? i can ask you the same thing, what rite do you have for addressing my issue i don't have at you? that's rite Fards is on the touch it team, so he does have the authority to say something. does that mean only the team of the rom is allow to post only? NOOOOO all and anyone can, if it's either helping, complaining, or flaming that's why its a forum. im no brown noser i just pointed to fards post because that's what i would have said as many would too. all he said was go to that relevant thread, logically wouldn't you say the same DAM thing?!!!? dude your just as much of a mindless f*ck here as i am for not minding your own business lol. you didn't post anything fix or links, neither did i. you flame at me for flaming at him, and non of it is our dam business to begin with. you agree that he shouldn't have started a thread and should have search, guess what soo did i. soo shingers roll up your blunt and flame on that, chill the F*ck out son. you ain't no better than me by what you posted here. atleast i gave him my layout plan how i read the forums and take notes. maybe that can encourage him to start his own search plan. wtf help did you do? nothing!!! let's keep going on and on to see who wins this battle of words and continue to clog up this forum... loser
btw im patiently waiting for yall's 6.5+Rhodium rom. i like how the topaz+6.5 came out, pretty stable.
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na you win as i man got better things to do! hope ya enjoy your victory! as for calling me a loser - if only you knew! LOL if only you knew! wonder if you would have said that **** to my face dude? if only you knew! ya right about one thing and that i need to take a drag of my blunt! sounds like typical ignorant ranting as ya making assumptions because of my avatar! also ya right i didnt help and instead of acting maturely and ignoring your naive rantings i got dragged in! apologies for that!
sorry but this has gone far enough
im closing the thread

How do I downgrade to 2.1?

I have the cognition beta5 installed right now and I would like to go back to 2.1 becouse my market downloads are slow very slow and my battery drains too. Is there a super noob way to down grade and if u could please tell me exactly step by step thx
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You got cognition on your phone, so you must have visited the developer forum...
Have you even tried to find the answer on your own? I know you are asking for help, but didn't you look up "how to restore to stock" before you started? What if there is no way - like on some other phones? Why would you do a major mod, without looking up how to go back before you even started?
Try the first post in the developer section - the stickied one - the captivate bible.
Look for odin one click to down grade. I believe there is a thread dedicated to it. I've noticed some off things in the market but nothing worth downgrading for.
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Alphadog I know it can be downgraded but I could not find the post that says how it can be done thats why I asked
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I must agree with what Alphadog said. You did not even bother to search. If you did there's absolutely no reason why this thread would be here. It's on the first page of the Android Development Section of these forums. You can't fricking miss it. But because you did, here's the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
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You got cognition on your phone, so you must have visited the developer forum...
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Stewart, shut up and stop flaming before you get banned. Just some friendly advice. You might just want to edit out that last post of yours.
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stewart must be a tard
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miztaken1312 said:
Stewart, shut up and stop flaming before you get banned. Just some friendly advice. You might just want to edit out that last post of yours.
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You can't be banned from a site like this, if so you just open up another user name and email....come on guys you must be new, but just for you i will delete it, i just hate when a new person gets on here and is treated like dirt. The guy asked a simple question...just answer "yes or no" thats it no need for the "extra advise" especially if you can't be nice about it. Besides how do you know the guy never bothered to search...thats an assumption on your part and when you assume you just...well you know. Don't assume just answer the question without being a jerk about it. A smart comment can be hidden behind what was suppose to be "friendly advise" and it's plain to see that this alpha dog was being smart assuming that the guy had not done his homework before making changes to his phone. At the end of the day...this release was not a good release, as we can see a lot of members on this site are having problems with their phones now. This is phone hacking using an leaked aka stolen version of froyo 2.2 that was patched together. We all took a chance and downloaded it at our own risk and now some members are paying for it because that's what happens when you accept stolen merchandise sometimes there are consequenses. Once you download this version of froyo the android market does not recognize the new version of the firmware and so a lot of apps are no longer available for you on the market unless you uninstall it put your phone back to eclair 2.1 and then try to access the market to find you missing apps. Now there is an Official version of froyo that is going to be released and anyone who downloaded the leaked aka stolen version will not and i repeat will not get the ota update from att this has been stated because the att server no longer recognizes your phones firmware version. Once again you will have to use your USB cable and pray that the "iffy" samsung keis application will see your phones stolen firmware and allow you to update to the leagle version of froyo 2.2 that should be a lot more stable then the the leaked...aka stolen version that everyone fell for.
These things are always "install at your own risk". If you screw it up, be prepared to figure out how to fix it. What Alphadog was trying to get at, is that if you just search, heck you don't even need to do that as all the answers are on the first page of the Dev subforum, you can figure out how to do it. He's also right in saying people need to do their homework before they mod their phone. You NEED a plan. You need to know how to be able to start anew should something get borked or you need to return it or something else.
It is irritating lately that these forums have been getting filled with really nooby questions like how to assign a picture to a contact. If everyone would spend some time using the phone or using google or searching the forums, the answer would be blatantly obvious. I think for the most part we're all just fed up with these questions, but instead of "being smart assed" about it and flaming, we just need to ignore the thread and let someone else deal with it.
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These things are always "install at your own risk". If you screw it up, be prepared to figure out how to fix it. What Alphadog was trying to get at, is that if you just search, heck you don't even need to do that as all the answers are on the first page of the Dev subforum, you can figure out how to do it. He's also right in saying people need to do their homework before they mod their phone. You NEED a plan. You need to know how to be able to start anew should something get borked or you need to return it or something else.
It is irritating lately that these forums have been getting filled with really nooby questions like how to assign a picture to a contact. If everyone would spend some time using the phone or using google or searching the forums, the answer would be blatantly obvious. I think for the most part we're all just fed up with these questions, but instead of "being smart assed" about it and flaming, we just need to ignore the thread and let someone else deal with it.
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That is true...or people who tend to be arogant in their thinking and looking down on folks who are not able to figure it out should use another forum. Thats all im trying to say. Heck what is the forum here for if not to help people. Check this out...I work in the mortgage forclosure industry..thats what i do im the guy that will put your home on the auction block if you can't pay for it for any reason. Poeple call me all the time all day long because they didn't read through their loan note before settlement or they were not informed during the settlement process as to what would happen if they didn't pay their mortgage. I don't get rude with them, i try to assist them because i have knowlege that could help them, imformation that they don't have. I don't want to see them get put out so i try to assist them by pointing them in the right direction over and over again no matter how often they call asking the same question.
My point? This is unchartered territory for some people, some of them don't even know how to use a forum...i wasn't born knowing how to write blog or use a forum. I had to ask questions sometimes over and over again. I had to research as well. But come on man these are 200.00 phones and for some folks thats a lot of money. If they mess up their phone ATT won't help them at all. Not to mention, unless you can get that samsung kies working on your computer your "might" be stuck with the stolen version of froyo 2.2 which as you can see is very very glitchy for some people.
Yes the sight says to mod at your own risk...but how can you dangle candy in someone face like that and expect them not to take the risk. Besides can you imagine what this country would be like if we had informed shoppers who did their homework before the shopped...this economy would be worse off then what it is, because people would think before they shopped or played around with their 200.00 smart phone taking a risk on damaging it for good.
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That is true...or people who tend to be arogant in their thinking and looking down on folks who are not able to figure it out should use another forum. Thats all im trying to say. Heck what is the forum here for if not to help people. Check this out...I work in the mortgage forclosure industry..thats what i do im the guy that will put your home on the auction block if you can't pay for it for any reason. Poeple call me all the time all day long because they didn't read through their loan note before settlement or they were not informed during the settlement process as to what would happen if they didn't pay their mortgage. I don't get rude with them, i try to assist them because i have knowlege that could help them, imformation that they don't have. I don't want to see them get put out so i try to assist them by pointing them in the right direction over and over again no matter how often they call asking the same question.
My point? This is unchartered territory for some people, some of them don't even know how to use a forum...i wasn't born knowing how to write blog or use a forum. I had to ask questions sometimes over and over again. I had to research as well. But come on man these are 200.00 phones and for some folks thats a lot of money. If they mess up their phone ATT won't help them at all. Not to mention, unless you can get that samsung kies working on your computer your "might" be stuck with the stolen version of froyo 2.2 which as you can see is very very glitchy for some people.
Yes the sight says to mod at your own risk...but how can you dangle candy in someone face like that and expect them not to take the risk. Besides can you imagine what this country would be like if we had informed shoppers who did their homework before the shopped...this economy would be worse off then what it is, because people would think before they shopped or played around with their 200.00 smart phone taking a risk on damaging it for good.
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If you want to spoon feed the entire world, that is your choice.
But defending people for their lack of judgment and research makes you look equally ignorant.
The point, at the beginning of this thread, is that if people just bothered TO TRY, they would find answers. Or just read the first post of a mod thread. I would think the words "this could brick your phone" would mean something. But no, most people are so used to bailouts and handouts that they don't stop to learn. I pointed the OP in the right direction - the information is there if he/she looked.
Oh, and if we had informed shoppers - we wouldn't have the mortgage mess we have now. People blame the banks, but it is idiot consumers that buy more then they can afford, get zero down loans, balloon loans, and hope their house goes up in value so they can refinance later.
The idea that more informed shoppers would make the economy worse is comical.
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If you want to spoon feed the entire world, that is your choice.
But defending people for their lack of judgment and research makes you look equally ignorant.
The point, at the beginning of this thread, is that if people just bothered TO TRY, they would find answers. Or just read the first post of a mod thread. I would think the words "this could brick your phone" would mean something. But no, most people are so used to bailouts and handouts that they don't stop to learn. I pointed the OP in the right direction - the information is there if he/she looked.
Oh, and if we had informed shoppers - we wouldn't have the mortgage mess we have now. People blame the banks, but it is idiot consumers that buy more then they can afford, get zero down loans, balloon loans, and hope their house goes up in value so they can refinance later.
The idea that more informed shoppers would make the economy worse is comical.
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Wow. So the OP didn't read enough before jumping. I was guilty of the sane thing. The forum takes some time to get used to. Not certain it warrants your rant. You clicked on the thread, why just so you can yell at someone?
OP look for Odin in development. If you are on beta 5 it is the only way to go back. I hope you have a PC and not a Mac
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Venting

Ive been a member here for a long time and while ive held my breath for years ive finally had to get some things off my chest. For one thing I have been a member of multiple communities and multiple forums for many, many years and I understand that while every community is a vast network of people as well as projects, I can say here is the one place without a shadow of a doubt that I almost never post simply because i know one of two things will always happen. One I will either be ignored or two someone will tell me to use the search bar. I understand that there are quite literally thousands upon thousands of pages of things so when either myself or someone who has just started here goes to search and even advanced search there are still thousands upon thousands of choices. If we are a community built on helping each other, why are we not really doing so? Im not asking for you to do the work for me, Im not asking to directly link the post, im not asking for the work to be done for us. What Im asking is why dont we give others a helping hand by you know, giving them a "path"? Saying to them "Search for the words so and so and soforth and soon". Im curious what others think on this subject.
I would say that I think this thread already exists and this should have been posted there.
Please search next time.
StormMcCloud said:
Please search next time.
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This isnt meant as a joke
Weapondrift said:
This isnt meant as a joke
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You do realize that I also provided a link to the proper thread right?
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Weapondrift said:
Ive been a member here for a long time and while ive held my breath for years ive finally had to get some things off my chest. For one thing I have been a member of multiple communities and multiple forums for many, many years and I understand that while every community is a vast network of people as well as projects, I can say here is the one place without a shadow of a doubt that I almost never post simply because i know one of two things will always happen. One I will either be ignored or two someone will tell me to use the search bar. I understand that there are quite literally thousands upon thousands of pages of things so when either myself or someone who has just started here goes to search and even advanced search there are still thousands upon thousands of choices. If we are a community built on helping each other, why are we not really doing so? Im not asking for you to do the work for me, Im not asking to directly link the post, im not asking for the work to be done for us. What Im asking is why dont we give others a helping hand by you know, giving them a "path"? Saying to them "Search for the words so and so and soforth and soon". Im curious what others think on this subject.
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Weapondrift said:
This isnt meant as a joke
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Maybe not, but it comes across as one. You say "If we are a community built on helping each other ..." - that is the problem. XDA is originally a site for Developers - not for noobs to join up and start demanding immediate answers, people to do the work for them, Devs to include everything the noob wants in their ROM, getting pissy when they don't receive an answer in an hour, swearing when they are told to search (not because we are too lazy or arrogant to help, but because searching means they will read, learn and understand WHY and WHAT - so they are far less likely to then screw their phone up totally and start blaming XDA for making that happen).
Does that answer your questions?
It also gets frustrating seeing the same exact thread opened again and again because someone refuses to click the search button. You will notice that if someone states that they made an effort to search prior to opening a thread they will more than likely get flamed less and get an actual link to the thread they are looking for.
StormMcCloud said:
It also gets frustrating seeing the same exact thread opened again and again because someone refuses to click the search button. You will notice that if someone states that they made an effort to search prior to opening a thread they will more than likely get flamed less and get an actual link to the thread they are looking for.
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You'd also notice the people who point out they searched are more likely to post in the wrong place
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SimonTS said:
Maybe not, but it comes across as one. You say "If we are a community built on helping each other ..." - that is the problem. XDA is originally a site for Developers - not for noobs to join up and start demanding immediate answers, people to do the work for them, Devs to include everything the noob wants in their ROM, getting pissy when they don't receive an answer in an hour, swearing when they are told to search (not because we are too lazy or arrogant to help, but because searching means they will read, learn and understand WHY and WHAT - so they are far less likely to then screw their phone up totally and start blaming XDA for making that happen).
Does that answer your questions?
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I realize that, however this is a public forum and we were all new at one time struggling to find out more about our phones. I am not adding for immediate answer I'm saying why can't we say "hey, go look for this" instead it just makes things easier and more friendly. I can't tell you how many times ive actually used the search button and ended up with 7000 threads and this is using advanced. Some people don't have time to read everything in those threads.
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StormMcCloud said:
It also gets frustrating seeing the same exact thread opened again and again because someone refuses to click the search button. You will notice that if someone states that they made an effort to search prior to opening a thread they will more than likely get flamed less and get an actual link to the thread they are looking for.
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Now I wholeheartedly agree with this and I know I'm just as guilty. I agree an effort is needed but also we are supposed to be the ones offering
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As pointed out above, there is an existing thread where people can rant about things (within reason & the rules).
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