So yesterday I finally found some time to root Gingerbread on my Nexus One. We're moving to Germany from the U.S. in a month and the last couple of weeks I just didn't have any time to get it done. I had my N1 rooted when I was on Froyo and was desperate to root it again on GB.
Last night I set a couple of hours aside to familiarize myself with the GingerBreak exploit and ended up with a rooted N1 and Gingerbread 2.3.3
Here's the funny part... not 30 minutes after rooting I get an OTA notification to update to 2.3.4. Go figure!
Can anyone confirm that 2.3.4 will break root on the N1? If so, will the GingerBreak exploit still work to root GB again?
What would be the preferred/easiest method to upgrade to 2.3.4 and retain root?
2.3.4 will break root. just use the gingerbreak app again and youll be rooted
I figured it would break root but just needed some confirmation!
I didn't actually use the .apk but ran the exploit myself. I think this time around I may just use the .apk though.
Is it confirmed that the app will root 2.3.4?
Just boot into recovery, flash the update as file from SD, and then flash the su zip...
danger-rat said:
Just boot into recovery, flash the update as file from SD, and then flash the su zip...
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This. Not sure why people are so confused like this. This has been the process since the Nexus One launched.
The new OTA break the root
This morning i have rooted my nexus one and root died.
I am trying Gingerbreak 1.2 after 25 minutes i cancelled it.
GldRush98 said:
This. Not sure why people are so confused like this. This has been the process since the Nexus One launched.
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Wouldn't this method require my boot loader to be unlocked?
Not if you already have a custom recovery installed...
danger-rat said:
Not if you already have a custom recovery installed...
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All right, let me recap so I'm not missing anything.
1. I download the 2.3.4 update from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061270, rename it update.zip and place it in the root of my SD
2. Then I download the su zip from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682828 and also place it in the root of my SD
3. Then I reboot into Clockwork and apply the update.zip
4. Once that's done I DO NOT reboot and apply the su zip
Is that it or am I missing something?
Don't apply it as an update, because your phone will reboot once it's done. If you reboot, you will lose your custom recovery. Use the "install zip from SD" option...
I tried to apply the update as zip from sd card and I got the following error, which seems to have something to do with google books
apply_patch_check(''/system/app/BooksPhone.apk'',numbers and letters
E:Error in /sdcard/update.zip (status 7)
Installation aborted.
Any ideas? Maybe it is because I had integrate Books into ROM? Any solutions?
Thanks a lot.
Nikos_s3 said:
I tried to apply the update as zip from sd card and I got the following error, which seems to have something to do with google books
apply_patch_check(''/system/app/BooksPhone.apk'',numbers and letters
E:Error in /sdcard/update.zip (status 7)
Installation aborted.
Any ideas? Maybe it is because I had integrate Books into ROM? Any solutions?
Thanks a lot.
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I'm getting the same error. I thought maybe it was because I had deleted Google Books from my system apps but after restoring the BooksPhone.apk I still get it. Not sure what the problem is.
Try this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13424911&postcount=19
danger-rat said:
Try this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13424911&postcount=19
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That worked! Thanks for the help! Learned something new again.
danger-rat said:
Try this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13424911&postcount=19
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this is only for those who havent flashed the un-edited update i guess. I flashed the original update too soon and it removed the root access on my wifes N1. I tried flashing the su last night it didnt work, really frustrating... ahihihihi
I was thinking if I flash the backup on 2.3.3 will that bring back the root access? or at least I can already use Gingerbreak then? ty
XodoX said:
All right, let me recap so I'm not missing anything.
1. I download the 2.3.4 update from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061270, rename it update.zip and place it in the root of my SD
2. Then I download the su zip from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682828 and also place it in the root of my SD
3. Then I reboot into Clockwork and apply the update.zip
4. Once that's done I DO NOT reboot and apply the su zip
Is that it or am I missing something?
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Try this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1&postcount=19
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i have stock 2.3.4 unrooted recovery stock.
Which file should i use? Do i have to rename files?
thanks!
Pepits said:
i have stock 2.3.4 unrooted recovery stock.
Which file should i use? Do i have to rename files?
thanks!
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To do what? To root? This procedure is to, in this case, update to 2.3.4 from 2.3.3 without loosing root.
Now I have an additional question. I wasn't able to use the original update file from Google, presumably because I had deleted the Google Books app. I kept getting the above-mentioned error.
Just out of curiosity, how could I get Google Books back so the update would run? Just placing it in /system/app didn't seem to work.
Not that it really matters, I used the modified update file that danger-rat posted, but for the future I would like to know how I can avoid this error.
XodoX said:
Not that it really matters, I used the modified update file that danger-rat posted, but for the future I would like to know how I can avoid this error.
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I used same update file,but though flashing went fine, my Wifi gives error all the time and cannot turn it on....Back to 2.3.3 for now...
Nikos_s3 said:
I used same update file,but though flashing went fine, my Wifi gives error all the time and cannot turn it on....Back to 2.3.3 for now...
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how can you go back to 2.3.3? i wanna do the same thing for my wife. ty
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My G1 become non-rooted after I flash sth to update my rom to froyo. I tried to hack root it again. However, it's has sth strange:
in build number, in many case it's ........ RC29(27 or ...) but in my case it's FRF83. Therefore, I don't know how to root it?
What can I do ?????
phuquocconan said:
My G1 become non-rooted after I flash sth to update my rom to froyo. I tried to hack root it again. However, it's has sth strange:
in build number, in many case it's ........ RC29(27 or ...) but in my case it's FRF83. Therefore, I don't know how to root it?
What can I do ?????
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wait... you flashed to froyo and lost root?
This is VERY unlikely since your froyo is a custom rom which has root.
I think when I try to flash app2sd, I flash sth make my G1 non-root
phuquocconan said:
I think when I try to flash app2sd, I flash sth make my G1 non-root
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I'm really confused. Are do you figure that you do NOT have root???
If you HAVE Froyo, then you HAVE root.
The only exception would be if you received an official update from your provider.
No, didn't get any official update.
There is the process:
1. I flashed Froyo Rom
2. I flash AUTOMTD Kernel and a2sd 3r1 to try to install app in sd card
Unfortunately, when I flashed a2sd 3r1 update file, my phone say that "No such file or directory".
I reboot my phone and type su in terminal app, the result was "permission denied"
phuquocconan said:
No, didn't get any official update.
There is the process:
1. I flashed Froyo Rom
2. I flash AUTOMTD Kernel and a2sd 3r1 to try to install app in sd card
Unfortunately, when I flashed a2sd 3r1 update file, my phone say that "No such file or directory".
I reboot my phone and type su in terminal app, the result was "permission denied"
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Then clear the data on Super User app maybe re-install.
Which FroYo rom did you flash?
Extreme V1.9.5
OK --- I know where he is coming from now --- Sir -- you still have root.
I went through the same things he did but the only difference is my Busybox is all screwed up but thats OK -- metamorph and ninjamorph can wait.
The default terminal app is so schnoozy -- you need to do this in adb or recovery (amon-ra) or in the SUFBS app.
but you have not lost root and theres no way tmobile has pushed out an official update for 2.2 to the g1!
androidcues said:
OK --- I know where he is coming from now --- Sir -- you still have root.
I went through the same things he did but the only difference is my Busybox is all screwed up but thats OK -- metamorph and ninjamorph can wait.
The default terminal app is so schnoozy -- you need to do this in adb or recovery (amon-ra) or in the SUFBS app.
but you have not lost root and theres no way tmobile has pushed out an official update for 2.2 to the g1!
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That's exactly what I was saying. If you have a custom rom, you havce root. His first post is contradictory and that's why I was confused. It's just a superuser and busybox problem.
How can I fix it, sir ?
phuquocconan said:
How can I fix it, sir ?
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Check market for SuperUser app upgrade
Download Titanium Backup app from Market and select "Problems" button so that it will download the latest busybox.
If all of that fails, reinstall the rom.
If that fails, wipe and clear your data, then reflash.
Thanks Sir, it'ok
phuquocconan said:
Thanks Sir, it'ok
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All good now?
I updated my N1 from FRG83 to FRG83d manually few days ago and wondering if I can downgrade to FRG83 or even FRF91? There is not much to it than I just like to get the firmware downloaded through OTA. Just curious!
Thanks in advance!
heroid007 said:
I updated my N1 from FRG83 to FRG83d manually few days ago and wondering if I can downgrade to FRG83 or even FRF91? There is not much to it than I just like to get the firmware downloaded through OTA. Just curious!
Thanks in advance!
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Back up your apps in Titanium, then flash one of the images from here: http://developer.htc.com/ and you are essentially downgraded!
efrant said:
Back up your apps in Titanium, then flash one of the images from here: http://developer.htc.com/ and you are essentially downgraded!
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I have a stock N1, but since 2.2 backs up all my apps and reinstalls, I am not worried much. But will I just be able to download the zip file rename as update.zip and install manually? Also, will I get all the Google services along with the zip file?
Thanks for the response.
Try the FRG33 passimg from shipped-roms.
heroid007 said:
I have a stock N1, but since 2.2 backs up all my apps and reinstalls, I am not worried much. But will I just be able to download the zip file rename as update.zip and install manually? Also, will I get all the Google services along with the zip file?
Thanks for the response.
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Download it to the root of your sdcard, rename it to PASSIMG.zip, and install. It will flash all the partitions on your device back to stock. It's a stock image...
efrant said:
Download it to the root of your sdcard, rename it to PASSIMG.zip, and install. It will flash all the partitions on your device back to stock. It's a stock image...
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It didn't work! When I booted to recovery I saw it was loading PASSIMG.zip and it verified but after reboot, it still says FRG83D!
heroid007 said:
It didn't work! When I booted to recovery I saw it was loading PASSIMG.zip and it verified but after reboot, it still says FRG83D!
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Strange. Which one did you use? Try this one: http://dl4.htc.com/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/signed-passion-img-FRG83_0923.zip
Maybe try renaming it as update.zip instead of PASSIMG.zip.
If that doesn't work, I'll give you another suggestion.
efrant said:
Strange. Which one did you use? Try this one: http://dl4.htc.com/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/signed-passion-img-FRG83_0923.zip
Maybe try renaming it as update.zip instead of PASSIMG.zip.
If that doesn't work, I'll give you another suggestion.
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Yes, that's the one I used! And please don't get me wrong but I use this phone for my work and is important that I don't screw the phone. Is there a tested solution to downgrade? So I can follow steps without damaging the phone?
Check it's not a zip within a zip
Edit: I can give you a 100% tested (by me) downgrade solution. Unlock the bootloader, download FRF91 from http://developer.htc.com and use fastboot to flash system.img and boot.img
heroid007 said:
Yes, that's the one I used! And please don't get me wrong but I use this phone for my work and is important that I don't screw the phone. Is there a tested solution to downgrade? So I can follow steps without damaging the phone?
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You will certainly not damage your phone by doing that, so don't worry. Rename it to update.zip and try again.
Rusty! said:
Check it's not a zip within a zip
Edit: I can give you a 100% tested (by me) downgrade solution. Unlock the bootloader, download FRF91 from http://developer.htc.com and use fastboot to flash system.img and boot.img
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Exactly...
PASSIMG no longer seem to work on the 0.35 bootloader...
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
As he did a manual update, I've assumed he's still on 0.33
Looks like this is yet to be achieved. passimg.zip of FRG33 says main version is older and 'update failed!' error.
Any other leads guys? Mine is a replaced Nexus One and it has FRG83D on it. I want to downgrade and then root. Help much appreciated!
kkiran said:
Looks like this is yet to be achieved. passimg.zip of FRG33 says main version is older and 'update failed!' error.
Any other leads guys? Mine is a replaced Nexus One and it has FRG83D on it. I want to downgrade and then root. Help much appreciated!
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Why do you need to downgrade? Why not keep FRG83D and just root it??
efrant said:
Why do you need to downgrade? Why not keep FRG83D and just root it??
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I just replied on another thread. Hope copy pasting it won't bother the mod!
I have a Mac and I and I am at work. I thought an 'all online' version exists already! VISIONary seems to be a good solution for < FRG83D but not 83D. Any other ideas?
Z4root maybe?
Rusty! said:
Z4root maybe?
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Nexus One not on compatible phone list. This one guy had errors on N1 based on the replies. FRG83D is forcing me to consider the good old ADB route!
I've heard mixed results...
http://www.23corner.com/apk/UniversalAndroot-1.6.2-beta5.apk
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
danger-rat said:
I've heard mixed results...
http://www.23corner.com/apk/UniversalAndroot-1.6.2-beta5.apk
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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That does not work with any build higher than FRF91...
Hi,
when Gingerbread OTA will be available to flash, how do I force it to install on my phone?
I'm still on FRF91, which is not the latest version as I just read.
I'm on German Vodafone and updated to 2.2 manually via file back then.
Thanks!
PS: I would root the phone for it if needed.
Install FRG33 passimg and it'll OTA itself up to date.
Download the official .zip file and rename to update.zip. Place on SD card, reboot to recovery (Or fastboot and then recovery) and apply the update.zip. Should be the exact same for what you did to get to 2.2.
Hollow.Droid said:
Download the official .zip file and rename to update.zip. Place on SD card, reboot to recovery (Or fastboot and then recovery) and apply the update.zip. Should be the exact same for what you did to get to 2.2.
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Yeah but after that I did not receive any more updates as it seems.
So maybe I'm better with the first replied method?
Follow Rusty...
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Hello, I follow the passimg.zip approach and after checking the file it shows "CID incorrect!" and update fail. Is there a way to fix this? I'm using a Korean Nexus.
Edit: Nevermind. I got it. Needed to convert my SD card to a Goldcard.
Without flashing i just got an update to FRG83D.
Now i fail to find a list of current versions again.
What is the latest version? Is it FRG83D?
Thanks
Yes, that is the latest version.
great thanks!
sceg10 said:
Hello, I follow the passimg.zip approach and after checking the file it shows "CID incorrect!" and update fail. Is there a way to fix this? I'm using a Korean Nexus.
Edit: Nevermind. I got it. Needed to convert my SD card to a Goldcard.
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Thanks dude! You saved my day!
Hi, after test for some times, i made the flashable root package for 2.3.4 (That the device has flash the leaked HKTW 2.3.4 and unlocked the device)
NOTE:
Unlocked Atrix 4G with HKTW 2.3.4
Please flash the CWM recovery first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138541
You should have a external sd card in your device, because the recovery cann't recognize the internal card
DOWNLOAD:
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I think all of you know how to flash zip from recovery, so I'll not give hint about this, LOL
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you rocks,, chinese rocks
Cool I needed this. Thanks
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vista1984 said:
shafa,,
you rocks,, chinese rocks
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LOL, you know the Chinese Pinyin: shafa? Cool
Anyone know how to get back to stock, or another rom like greyblur. I am stuck on a softbrick.
kleeman7 said:
Anyone know how to get back to stock, or another rom like greyblur. I am stuck on a softbrick.
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You can flash the official sbf file to restore to origin, like the 1.2.6 sbf
kleeman7 said:
Anyone know how to get back to stock, or another rom like greyblur. I am stuck on a softbrick.
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Did sbf rsd lite work for you?
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flzyup said:
You can flash the official sbf file to restore to origin, like the 1.2.6 sbf
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I was using a update sbf, not a full rom one. Up and running again. Thanks.
flzyup said:
lol, you know the chinese pinyin: Shafa? Cool
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哈哈 沙发我更懂了 跨国来支持
Works great! Thanks!
kleeman7 said:
I was using a update sbf, not a full rom one. Up and running again. Thanks.
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Yeah I think alot of people make that mistake. That's why when people ask I always say make sure to grab the "full" sbf not the service!
Thanks for the zip root method! Much appreciated!
Uses this and trying to flash with the newest CW build that is available with no avail.
Keeps being unable to mount SDcard ...
Will have to try the other way to do this for now but thank you for the work.
Worked perfect. Thanks
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how do i use this?? already have teh new cwm
now waht???
i HATE when pple leave out basic info, i got school work, i cant remember EVERYTHING EVERYTIME.
Hey, so, I ran into a slight problem.. It doesnt actually root the phone... Or so I've found. What happened to me is it worked perfectly, flashed via new cwm nicely, and I had SU in app drawer. I then decided to try and restore my apps via TB, and it doesnt let me batch anything, see anything, etc. It's like I don't have root. Then I tried getting root explorer and it FC's on opening the app. WTF?
jbrussee said:
Hey, so, I ran into a slight problem.. It doesnt actually root the phone... Or so I've found. What happened to me is it worked perfectly, flashed via new cwm nicely, and I had SU in app drawer. I then decided to try and restore my apps via TB, and it doesnt let me batch anything, see anything, etc. It's like I don't have root. Then I tried getting root explorer and it FC's on opening the app. WTF?
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try rebooting the device ( i had to do it a couple of times )
slowpc said:
Uses this and trying to flash with the newest CW build that is available with no avail.
Keeps being unable to mount SDcard ...
Will have to try the other way to do this for now but thank you for the work.
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This is because you didn't read my post carefully. You should have a EXTERNAL SDCARD in your device first! Because the recovery cann't mount the internal sdcard.
jbrussee said:
Hey, so, I ran into a slight problem.. It doesnt actually root the phone... Or so I've found. What happened to me is it worked perfectly, flashed via new cwm nicely, and I had SU in app drawer. I then decided to try and restore my apps via TB, and it doesnt let me batch anything, see anything, etc. It's like I don't have root. Then I tried getting root explorer and it FC's on opening the app. WTF?
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There is another way to check whether the root of your device work or not.
Run cmd in Windows or terminal in Linux.
execute the following cmd:
Code:
adb shell
su -
After you input the "su -" cmd, you should have a dialog to allow root access in your device. I.e, the root works. Otherwise, it doesn't work.
BTW, does your device unlocked and flash the HKTW android 2.3.4 rom?
jahizen said:
how do i use this?? already have teh new cwm
now waht???
i HATE when pple leave out basic info, i got school work, i cant remember EVERYTHING EVERYTIME.
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TOO bad, the zip file should be flashed as the normal way to flash rom.
GOTO recovery then choose this zip file to flash.
BTW, you should copy the zip file to the external sdcard first!
michael0619 said:
哈哈 沙发我更懂了 跨国来支持
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Fun!
Disclaimer:
This will unroot your device! I am not responsible if you brick your phone.
Requirement: Stock 2.3.4 GRJ22
Compatibility: Nexus S i9023
Step 1: Download Android 2.3.6 Gingerbread (GRK39F) update for your Google Nexus S.
Step 2: Connect your Nexus S with your computer to transfer update.zip to the root/parent-directory of your phone.
Step 3: After completing transfer, turn off your Nexus S.
Step 4: Hold down Power + Volume Down until you get into your bootloader (you’ll know when you do) and then go into Recovery mode.
Step 5: Select choose from sdcard.
Step 6: Select the downloaded file.
Step 7: Wait for the update to be installed and then reboot back into Android.
Enjoy!
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So this ROM has been do for the Nexus S I9023, or it's an OTA ?
It is an OTA or it based with the OTA 2.3.6 of the I9020(a)(t) .. ?
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edit:
It's an OTA, but the small OTA for the right ROM stock android 2.3.4/.5 and with the recovery android, and not the clockwork.
does this add google wallet?
Hey, I'm seeing a better responsive stock browser after the update.
The issue is discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=873364
The scroll is now usable on pages with big images which wasn't the case before.
I'm so happy, I have a working stock browser again.
Anyone else see the same improvement?
Also do you know of any other bug fixes?
this is OTA update not Full ROM
zamolxees said:
Hey, I'm seeing a better responsive stock browser after the update.
The issue is discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=873364
The scroll is now usable on pages with big images which wasn't the case before.
I'm so happy, I have a working stock browser again.
Anyone else see the same improvement?
Also do you know of any other bug fixes?
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Would you be so kind and pull that patched Browser.apk from your Phone and post it here?
Will this remove root permissions?
Corra said:
Will this remove root permissions?
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It says right in the first post. Yes it will.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA Premium App
brainmaster said:
Would you be so kind and pull that patched Browser.apk from your Phone and post it here?
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I copied it from my /system/apk and then on my computer. Hope that's ok, I don't have adb atm.
markywylder said:
It says right in the first post. Yes it will.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA Premium App
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I did it OTA style and it did not remove root for me. Weird.
Although I'll have to flash CWM again, it seems to be broken.
So, the root is possible on the new version 2.3.6 with the update.zip of chendd ?
IT4ALii3EN said:
So, the root is possible on the new version 2.3.6 with the update.zip of chendd ?
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I'm wondering the exact same thing.
Tried to flash the update.zip thru CWM but it gives an error. Is this normal?. Maybe have the "stock recovery" is a pre-requisite to flash an OTA update. If not, perhaps I missed something to do.
zamolxees said:
I copied it from my /system/apk and then on my computer. Hope that's ok, I don't have adb atm.
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Awesome.
Just tried to copy it to my /system/app but it doesn't work... anyone have any luck with the new browser?
Arkaknio said:
Tried to flash the update.zip thru CWM but it gives an error. Is this normal?. Maybe have the "stock recovery" is a pre-requisite to flash an OTA update. If not, perhaps I missed something to do.
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It happened the same here. I think it would give the same with the stock recovery, I already tried. I restored the very first backup I done right after rooting and it worked flawlessly. Maybe this happens when we give root permissions to apps that don't deserve them
However I lost root and I just re-flashed the superuser zip file.
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poyz said:
Awesome.
Just tried to copy it to my /system/app but it doesn't work... anyone have any luck with the new browser?
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Nope. I tried what you did. Also pushing the app via dab. Deleting data and cache then deleting the apk and pushing the new one. Every time it said the app could not be found cause it was not installed.
Anyone else have any luck with this?
The only other thing I can think of is replacing it in the rom zip file before flashing.
Can anyone extract the boot.img for 2.3.6 and post it up?
I kind of did something silly and need it!
Previous boot images do not work with 2.3.6.
A
Never mind, sorted!
PS: Just used the superuser file and have successfully rooted 2.3.6 and installed CW Recovery 5 too.
I know the dangers, but **** it, I like having root access!